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13 Energy Drinks In 3 Sessions

circletimessquare writes "As a member of the cult of caffeine, as I suspect many Slashdot readers are, I was pleasantly amused by this story in The New York Times entitled Opening 13 Cans of Whoop (reg req). Our brave reporter sucks down a number of energy drinks of various parentages and gives us the lowdown on their taste, appearance, ingredients, overall effect, and dubious appeal. Example: 'At this point, my energy level was not only elevated, it was speeding toward the red line. I felt myself staring holes through my computer screen, typing at five times my normal rate and thinking far too creatively about life questions like how many AA batteries I needed to buy when I went to the drug store. My mood was chipper. Too chipper.'"

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  1. Reg Free by bendelo · · Score: 5, Informative

    Here's a registration free link thanks to Google.

    1. Re:Reg Free by AnwerB · · Score: 5, Funny

      Quick Summary: New York times reporter overdoses on caffine; writes an article.

    2. Re:Reg Free by Dizzle · · Score: 4, Funny

      Thank god you linked to Google. Before now, I had never heard of Google. Seems pretty handy though.

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      -Dizzle
      "I most likely AM so interested in myself."
    3. Re:Reg Free by DrMrLordX · · Score: 5, Funny

      An in depth article on this topic has already been written. It's much better than the NY Times offering.

    4. Re:Reg Free by Mycroft_VIII · · Score: 4, Funny

      That's O.K. I've met employees at compusa who've never heard of null modem cables, parallell ports, or the ISA. And the salespeople knew even less than the tech people.
      Not picking on you, or even trying to tar ALL compusa people with the same brush, but they really are the mcdonalds of computers, and it shows.
      I've overheard techies tell a customer to make shure his computer was ON when installing new ram to make shure it worked. A salesman say that Windows XP couldn't catch viruses anymore because of Security Proof 1("that's what sp1 means). And even try to sell a guy a 450 watt atx power suply for an old PII at system, so the computer would go faster.
      Maybe it's just the two compusa's in my area that is that bad, and alot of the b.s. seems to translate to 'buy somthing expesisize for (insert gobledy gook here) and hey would like a service plan for that?'.

      Mycroft

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  2. substitutes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    I think at some point its much healthier to switch to cocaine.

  3. Makes me think of the old joke ... by the+eric+conspiracy · · Score: 4, Funny



    I put instant coffee in the microwave and went back in time.

    Thanks Steve Wright..

  4. Energy Drinks Vs. Sleep by Poeir · · Score: 5, Insightful

    While it's real great to be awake and theoretically able to do something productive until the wee hours of the night, there is no substitute for honest to goodness sleep. It's a lot cheaper than a $2 eight-ounce can, too.

    Sleep when you can. You won't regret it.

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    1. Re:Energy Drinks Vs. Sleep by metlin · · Score: 5, Insightful

      True.

      And again, if you drink coffee in limited quantities (like say, not more than a couple of cups a day), you will notice that when you need to stay up, having an extra cup or two really has an effect.

      When you are a heavy coffee drinker who cuts back on coffee, the first couple of times you have more than your usual dose of caffeine, it takes you on a real alertness mode.

      And the worst part is that the more the coffee you have, the less regular your sleeping habits become. You stop having good sleep, and therefore your waking hours become kinda blurry. At which point, you resort to more caffeine. A vicious circle.

      A cup (at most two) a day is just about fine, IMHO.

    2. Re:Energy Drinks Vs. Sleep by medelliadegray · · Score: 5, Funny

      /jesting on

      So you say that its cheaper to get more sleep. well sir, i shall prove to you, beyond a doubt, that it is, in fact, cheaper to buy my Mighty Mighty Speedo Drink(TM) every day for a low low price of 2.59 per 5.9 oz bottle!

      Now, my friend, assuming your salery is the very respectable wage of $5.15, and you are able to stay up 2.5 hours longer per day by using my Mighty Mighty Speedo Drink(TM) every day in the morning to wake yourself up, and in the evening to keep yourself up longer then, you are in fact making money by using my Mighty Mighty Speedo Drink(TM).

      We all know that time IS money, and by using my Mighty Mighty Speedo Drink(TM) you are in fact generating money! By staying up 2.5Hours more per day, you recieving $12.88 more per day in personal or professional time, after subtracting the low low cost of my Mighty Mighty Speedo Drink(TM) you are in effect generating $7.70 of your time's worth per day! Multiply this by 365 days in a year, and by 10 years, and your gross profit in time will be in excess of $28,000. Would you pass up the oppritunity to make an additional 28 grand? Nooo sane person Wooould! so buy your Mighty Mighty Speedo Drink(TM) today at your local supplier, and prove to the world you are worth more than they are!

      *Warning, it is necessary to get adequate sleep, improper or prolonged use of product may cause premature aging, bags under the eyes, and cause children to run away when they see your face. additional side effects may be experienced with prolonged use, results may vary from person to person. no children, puppies, or fish were harmed in the testing of this product.* /jesting off

      Nothing replaces getting quality sleep for the proper hours that your body requires.

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    3. Re:Energy Drinks Vs. Sleep by actiondan · · Score: 4, Interesting


      Actually, I find I am more effective at certain kinds of tasks (especially programming) if I attack them in long sessions. The longer I keep going, the more into the right mind set I get and the more productive I am. This is especially true for involved tasks that need a lot of separate considerations to be maintained.

      For periods of up to about a week (and not _too_ often, I find it effective to stay awake through the night (so I end up working (with some breaks) from about 12 midday through to about 4 in the afternoon the next day), then relax and have a big long sleep.

      Of course, everyones working habits are different...

      Dan.

    4. Re:Energy Drinks Vs. Sleep by spare.dave · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Yours seems a common work habit among programmers. It's just sort of taken for granted that that's how programming works. But it's one I've never been able to follow.

      I always found that when working on a complex problem, sleep gives me a perspective that I just didn't have the night before. Coding for an hour in the morning, I can probably accomplish work that would have taken me three hours during the blurry zombie-like state that accompanies an all-nighter.

      But then I also like sunlight...

    5. Re:Energy Drinks Vs. Sleep by LMariachi · · Score: 5, Funny
      ...that it is, in fact, cheaper to buy my Mighty Mighty Speedo Drink(TM) every day for a low low...

      Marketing tip: You're not going to sell a lot of anything that sounds like it came from your Speedos.

  5. Whatever by molafson · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I felt myself staring holes through my computer screen, typing at five times my normal rate and thinking far too creatively about life questions like how many AA batteries I needed to buy when I went to the drug store.

    Whatever! You'd think the guy was smoking crystal meth or something. Anyway, if you want to feel healthy and alert, try:
    (a) Eating nutritiously and sparingly,
    (b) Exercising every day, and
    (c) Sleeping regularly (same time every day) for 8 hours.

    1. Re:Whatever by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

      Nice to see that the worthless drug addicts have representation on Slashdot as well.

    2. Re:Whatever by cgenman · · Score: 4, Funny

      Whatever! You'd think the guy was smoking crystal meth or something.

      Wasn't that the active ingredient in Crystal Pepsi?

    3. Re:Whatever by sugarboy · · Score: 5, Funny

      However, when I made a conscious effort to start eating raw vegetables with *every* meal (and not just a carrot or so a day), I noticed that I started having fewer headaches, had more energy, and just generally felt all-around healthier. Now, if I don't eat my veggies, I find that those symptoms come right back. Carrots, celery, lettuce, and green peppers are almost always staples in my fridge.

      Now see, what's going on here is that you've become addicted to these so-called "healthy" foods and have built up a dependency, as shown by your withdrawal symptoms. The effects of these food items are perceived increase in clarity and energy, and overall "health", exactly as you have described. But we all know the truth: you're addicted.

    4. Re:Whatever by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

      Almost any sweet beverage you can buy at the supermarket will dehydrate you more than it will hydrate you thanks to all the added sugar they put in those things

      False. 100%, completely, absolutely, totally false. Sugar does not contribute to dehydration except insofar as it may contribute to diarrhea.

      Sugar doesn't interferes with the takeup of water; is even specifically added to oral rehydration treatments because it improves bodily takeup. And the metabolization of sugar releases water, rather than taking it up.

  6. Re:caffeine by SUB7IME · · Score: 4, Funny

    Hey, man - Caffeine may be bad for you, but it's sure as hell necessary for my survival. Which, in itself, may be bad for you...

  7. The good old days.... by PeterPumpkin · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Red Bull wasn't the first energy drink. Remember, Coca-Cola used to contain cocaine.

    1. Re:The good old days.... by PeterPumpkin · · Score: 5, Informative
  8. Re:caffeine by adamjaskie · · Score: 4, Funny

    Bah. I can quit any time I want.

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  9. related info: why jolt was limited. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    jolt cola was limited to 72mg dose of caffine per 12 oz soda do to food laws. (at least in the USA)

    which ironicly is less then coffee can be (normally 65-175 mg per 8 oz serving) and less then espresso (100mg per 1.5-2oz)

    http://www.freshcoffee.com/html/caffaq-1.html

    these energy drinks are not "soda" to get around the limit.

    LD50 for caffine is 150mg/kg
    (take your weight in kg * 150mg of caffine = a dose that has a 50% chance of killing you)

    200 pounds = 90.7 kilograms => 13.6 grams
    100 pounds = 45.3 kilograms => 6.8 grams

    1. Re:related info: why jolt was limited. by Rich0 · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Uh - you'll never see an LD50 for humans - just anecdotal figures on the lowest known lethal dose (LDlow I believe that is called).

      To get LD50 you feed x mg of caffeine to 100 rats, and see how many die. Then you adjust up or down until you do it and get 50 of them to die - viola - the value of LD50. For some reason people have ethical problems with doing this with human test subjects...

  10. cutting down on caffein by arabagast · · Score: 5, Insightful

    um, I know this is kinda blasphemy here on slashdot, but my tip is actually to reduce your dose of caffeine. I used to drink *lots* of coffee and other caffeinated beverages earlier, but decided to try a little break and watch the difference. My conclusion is as follows (beware: these are my personal experiences, your might be completely different)

    1. If you are going to be doing a lot of intensive work, in need of intense concentration (such as coding), you shouldn`t pour down coffee like you never saw it before. The coffee dehydrates your body, leading to less-than-optimal body functionality and can actually make you less suited to do the job intented.
    2. If you, as we all do once in a while, drink buckets of coffee - remember to drink lots of water or other beverage to compensate for the water loss brought on by the caffeine. It`s important to have enough water in your body, we're water creatures after all ^^.

    but, who am I kidding - Coffee is G-O-D :P

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    Bomb no.20 : To explode of course.
    1. Re:cutting down on caffein by APDent · · Score: 5, Funny

      Coffee is God Pee?

      Oops. Sorry. That's a smiley.

  11. Ritalin by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Ritalin combined with caffine is by far the most productivity inspiring legal cocktail one can imagine.

  12. Re:big deal! by another_henry · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Hey, don't say it like that. For food manufacturers to actually produce something that does what it claims really IS a discovery!

    --
    "Studies have shown that people who eat peanuts live longer than those who do not eat."
  13. ANSI (American Neurological Speed Institute) by Feezle · · Score: 5, Funny

    Reminds me a lot of this (funnier!) column from Computer Language magazine.

  14. Taurine vs. Caffeine by Arren · · Score: 5, Interesting

    This is a 'Science' story???

    The NYT article itself is a lark, and a poorly written one at that. As one who consumes espresso regularly and *energy drinks* occasionally, I can assert, experientially (corroborated by several friends & coworkers with whom I've discussed this in the past), that the defining active ingredient in Red Bull and its myriad spawn is Taurine, not Caffeine.

    Conduct the experiment yourself: get a double espresso one night, followed the next night by an 8oz *energy drink* (adjust qtys. for your tolerance). Note the differing effects of the caffeinated espresso vs. the taurine+caffeine *energy drink*.

    1. Re:Taurine vs. Caffeine by barakn · · Score: 4, Insightful

      The article wasn't science, but your idea isn't either. The only way for you to be sure is if somebody packages caffeine or caffeine/taurine into indistinguishable capsules and then feeds them to you over successive nights in a double-blind experiment (they can't know what they're giving to you either until afterwards). Otherwise you're just testing the placebo effect. Perhaps your experience with Red Bull is influenced by Red Bull's massive marketing campaign. Coffee advertising tends to advertise its flavor, not its stimulant properties.

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  15. Re:caffeine by br0ck · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I spent a month of awful headaches giving up a 5-7 Dr. Peppers a day habit about 2 years ago due to acid reflux and stomach aches and found to my surpise that I'm actually more alert and energetic without the caffeine. Caffeine put me in a perpetual up and down mode, swinging between being too lethargic to work to having an extremely short attention span for the hour after drinking a soda. The only downside is that I still crave soda whenever someone pops the top on a can of soda.

    I do cheat if I have a really bad headache or if I'm going on a long drive by drinking Adrenaline by Sobe and Amp by 7up. That always does the trick but with being unaccusomed to caffeine these energy drinks are like taking speed or something.

  16. Why go through the middleman? by cgenman · · Score: 4, Funny

    Why not get actual Caffeine or pure Guarana? Of course, I once saw a girl who ate roughly 1 gram of caffeen in a night stay up for 4 days straight while crying and dribbling at the mouth, so don't overdo it.

    And as for straight coffee beans... Try instant. Just shovel a few spoonfuls into your mouth, and wash it down with water. 10 seconds and you're super caffinated.

    Of course the other secret is to eat 20mg of caffeine immediately before falling asleep. You will awake totally refreshed in about two hours, as if you had a full night's sleep. You do have to make very sure you fall asleep before the caffeine kicks in, or you just won't sleep at all. Long-term effects include improved GPA and complete cardiopulmonary collapse.

  17. Pah! I laugh! by Stephonovich · · Score: 5, Interesting
    Fools! Try drinking SkyRocket spiked 24 ozs. bottles of Code Red, or better yet, Bawls! 100mg per oz... Just don't try it straight. Penguins soaked in it are quite good, though.

    What's the most caffeine you've had, anyway? My above experience with SkyRocket spiking (plus spiked OJ and Coffee in the morning) resulted in about 1g (not mg, mind you) of caffeine intake over a period of about 6 hours. First time I've ever noticed my heartrate go up from caffeine. With my weigh of about 115 lbs, the LD-50 for me is around 7 grams.

    (-:Stephonovich:-)

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    "Who needs reincarnation when we've got parallel universes?" -Me
  18. Re:caffeine by The+Analog+Kid · · Score: 5, Informative

    Caffeine is actually benefical, it can help reduce asthma attacks, it helps prevent stone formation, it can help reduce the risk of colon cancer and it's an anti-oxident. There are a lot of others which I won't post here, but a quick googling will turn them up, but sure, too much caffeine like anything is bad for you.

  19. Why bother? by pantycrickets · · Score: 5, Funny

    If you want to achieve the effects described in this article, why beat around the bush. Just get some cocaine. Compared to what these things cost, you might even be saving money.

    But, for those who can't give up drinking their high.. there are new coca enhanced energy drinks coming out of Peru. Not coming into America any time soon, but still..

  20. Re:caffeine by iminplaya · · Score: 5, Funny

    Quitting is easy. I've done it thousands of times.

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    What?
  21. MORE INTERESTING by Tandoori+Haggis · · Score: 5, Interesting

    would be a "scientific study" of the respective disolving powers of each drink. Since teeth vary, I guess we would initially need to establish,the parameters of the "average tooth" of the consumer in terms of its resistance to:

    A: Carbonic acid
    B: Phosphoric acid
    C: Sodium Benzoate
    D: Sugar activated plaque
    E: Anything else in a drink including colours (colors), flavours, (flavors), preseratives etc.,

    Once we establish the "average tooth", we need to obtain sufficient samples which are sufficiently similar in size, type and quality of dentyne layer.

    Incidentally, we also ought to test fillings and see what happens to them. We could look for loosening due to tooth decay or the disolving of metal amalgum, (or whatever filler they use).

    I'd be particularly interested in the gases liberated from metal fillings and glues/resins by the corrosive action of the acids.

    While we are at it, IF these drinks are made from
    domestic water, what effect does the fluoride have
    on the tooth. Fluoride is added to water supplies so that poor unfortunate people who apparantly don't buy toothpaste don't have to worry about their teeth falling out.

    Obituary: J Bloggs croaked on Friday due to liver failure as a result of Fluoride overdose. The Coroner did note however that the deceased had a lovely set of teeth.

    While we are at it, where are MY RIGHTS? I didn't demand fluoride in the water. If you brush your teeth with toothpaste containing fluoride AND drink copious quantities of water containing Fluoride (BECAUSE SOME MF SOB DECIDED IT WAS IN YOUR BEST INTERESTS WHETHER YOU LIKE IT OR NOT!) they can get stained black. Whoopee! Might as well issue black crayons. Why are polititians and tooth fairy campaigners so IGNORANT of long term health issues. They wouldn't have shares in fluoride mines perhaps now would they???!!!

    Colours, sweeteners and preservatives are used to make products attractive to look at and cheap to produce. Medical help and therapy costs millions, maybe billions$. WHO PAYS IN THE END?

    Sorry for the soapbox moment but some stuff has to be said.

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  22. Cheaper maybe... by Animaether · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Although it is cheaper ($0.00 vs $2.00 = $2.00 cheaper, or #INF%), there is the flip side as well.

    Not to denounce the fact that sleep is a Good Thing(tm), but...

    Let's say that drinking the content of the $2 can allows you to stay up and awake, productive, etc. for 1 more hour.
    At $40/hour pay, you just 'made' $38.

    I know a few people who wouldn't mind making that trade-off if they could.

    1. Re:Cheaper maybe... by scum-e-bag · · Score: 4, Informative

      Yeah, that's what I was doing for a few years... slam down a red bull toward the end of the night and pull an extra hour or two, get some more $$$. An extra two hours gave me an extra $80 no problems, or so I thought.

      Last Christmas it all caught up with me when I had an epileptic fit and woke up finding myself in the emergency section of the hostpital unable to walk. I was lucky that I only tore my back muscles and didn't break my spine from the violent jerking involved with the siezure. The only reason given to me for this fit, by the various doctors I saw, was that it occured due to my working hours and that I was pushing my body to the limit. They all told me to slow down before I killed myself or someone else. I am only 29.

      Be carefull with your use/abuse of these products. It can cost you more in the long run. I was only having two of these things a day at the most.

      --
      Does it go on forever?
  23. Weeeeellllllll....... by ZosX · · Score: 5, Funny

    I j-j-j-ust drank-k-k a-ll thirteeeen-n-n at once-ce-ce-ce aaaand-d let meeeee tell-l-l-l you I wouldn't-t-t-t recomend it!

    *thud*

  24. energy drinks can be BAD by LeeBarnes · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I once heard about this guy from a friend that works for Pepsi. he told me that this guy, a co-worker of his at one time, on a bet, drink six cans of Amp (or one of those similar kind) in just a few minutes (think chug).

    He said within 15 minutes, they were rushing him to the emergency room cause his poor heart was thumping out over 250 beats per minute.

    don't tell me that stuff doesn't have an effect.

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  25. Re:caffeine by the_mad_poster · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Caffeine is a device that turns coders into caffiene joke posters on Slashdot.

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  26. Re:Dehydration... by DavittJPotter · · Score: 4, Informative

    Indeed, drinking too much water is toxic
    Yes, but.....

    From webmd.com:

    You would need to chug down about three quarts of water or more all at once to come down with a case of true water intoxication. It does happen, but so rarely that I couldn't find statistics on the number of cases. These people become drowsy, lightheaded, and weak. They have trouble coordinating bodily movements and thinking straight, looking and feeling as if they just stumbled out of the local bar.

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  27. Re:Cocaine? by insomaniac · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Why do so few nerds smoke weed or coke

    Well, here in the netherlands there are a lot of geeks who do smoke weed, I'm one of them, if its nicely grown weed it gives me a focus on what I'm doing. I code very well when I smoked a nice joint. The problem is starting the work, but when finally started its like your in your own coding world and you can visualise the entire structure of the code, even better than when you are sober.

    I've tried cocaine a few times and didn't really like that, MDMA was more fun but one should not do that often either. And these are party drugs, not drugs you take when your alone in front of your computer.

    But then again I think that weed as a drug is less harmfule than alcohol for many reasons which I won't go into unasked. ;)

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    The way to corrupt a youth is to teach him to hold in higher value them who think alike than those who think differently
  28. Re:caffeine by duffel · · Score: 5, Informative

    Indeed. Most people don't realise it is actually physically addictive.

    Adenosine is a chemical messenger that tells cells to slow down. Caffeine, being structurally similar, can block adenosine receptors in the brain, and thus prevent this slowdown.

    However, your brain cells compensate to prolonged exposure by creating more and more adenosine receptors... meaning that you'll be really tired unless you block them with caffeine. Repeat ad addictum.

    Check here and here for more info.

    On a more personal note, I always find that drinking something with tons of sugars in it keeps me active far longer than caffeine alone. Caffeine just makes me burn through my energy reserves faster, resulting in me being even more tired after a while.

  29. Any Better Reviews Out There? by JazzHarper · · Score: 5, Interesting

    It would be good to know exactly how much caffeine is actually in some of these drinks. I'd also like to see some taste panel results or surveys.

    I've found that one or two of these will keep me from falling asleep after a three- or four-hour ride and a hot shower. I don't drink it before the ride, because keeping my heart rate under control is essential to maintaining speed on a long ride. Caffeine will give you tachycardia if you're pushing the edge of the anerobic threshhold.

    Some of these drinks taste really foul. I've found that Red Bull does the job, but it doesn't taste very good. SoBe Adrenalin Rush tastes worse. KMX tastes ok, but doesn't have any kick, as far as I can tell. The best combination of taste and effect that I've found is AMP, but I'd like to hear some other opinions. The article was humorous, but it wasn't informative.
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  30. Opening a can of WhoopAss(tm) by still+cynical · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Whatever happened to WhoopAss? It was the first "energy" drink I ever tried, and it tasted MUCH better than Red Bull. ThinkGeek doesn't carry it anymore, and it was the only place I ever saw it.

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    Ignorance is the root of all evil.
  31. Re:Dehydration... by tapin · · Score: 4, Interesting
    Thanks for bringing up hyponatremia, molafson. It happens to be the same condition the parent of your post is talking about -- "water intoxication" -- but the webmd reference is obviously clueless if they think that the stats are "so rare" etc.

    I'd disagree with your characterization of hyponatremia as a problem with "elite" endurance athletes; in my experience, it's more of a problem with people who are, for example, first-time marathonners. These people think that they're supposed to down a cup of water every mile, don't eat anything else, and by the 20th mile or so they can't even walk straight because their sodium levels are so screwed up.

    It's not a pretty problem.

  32. NYT doesn't know Guarana = Caffeine by Black+Acid · · Score: 4, Informative
    All contain caffeine, guarana or a combination of both. (Guarana, a berry found in the Amazon, has a stimulant effect similar to caffeine's.) Some use ginseng as well, for extra stimulation.

    Maybe that is because guarana is caffeine? Actually, guarana (Paullinia cupana) is a plant, which according to Erowid contains 5% caffeine from which it derives its stimulant effects. There is no alternative to caffeine named guarana. Wikipedia's article on guarana has more information. Yet more misinformation from the Times.
  33. Re:caffeine by Brian+Stretch · · Score: 4, Funny

    Caffeine is actually benefical, it can help reduce asthma attacks, it helps prevent stone formation...

    Then maybe it's a good thing that Keith Richards didn't have these energy drinks available to him.