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Cannes' Palme d'Or goes to Michael Moore
An anonymous reader writes "The Palme d'Or of the Festival de Cannes was presented this year by Charlize Theron to Fahrenheit 9/11 by Michael Moore. I don't know if it's the first time this prize is awarded to a documentary, but I guess it's rare enough to be mentioned, especially given the problems this film encounters."
That doesn't make it any less the first documentary to get the award.
Jeroen
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You're talking out your ass, like an uninformed leftist. Fox News is no more biased than CNN. They just have a few commentators who lean right. Quit being so afraid of having to think.
I'm as interested this movie as the next guy, but why is it a /. topic?
Because it's gonna induce one hell of a Sunday morning political flamefest.
Which, actually, is why I'm here. Gotta find some more superstitious neocon fucktards to add to my Foes list. (it's either that or work on the corporate websites... which would *you* rather be doing on a Sunday morning?)
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Your full of shit. If Michael Moore was prevented from putting his movie online for free by the US government then that would be censorship (and before you make up some conspiracy theory, no they haven't). Disney and Mirimax told him OVER 1 YEAR AGO they did not want to distribute the film and he admitted that whining about it was a publicity stunt. Do I have a right to paint pro-Bush slogans all over your house? No? How dare your censor me!!
Since coming to college the only censorship I hvae seen is by so-called 'liberals' who want "diversity". Unfortunately somebody forget to tell them that there is infinitely more diversity in 2 white guys arguing different points of view than in 1000 people carefully chosen to fill the proper racial quotas all unthinkingly droning the same moveon.org propoganda spoon fed to them by their professors. Any dissenting opinion from the liberal accepted norm is immediately labeled as racist or sexist or war-mongering or any other label, without a single iota of real argument; just abject emotional hatred with no need to look at any facts. I find it amazing that any tiny perceived problem in America is iron-clad proof to most liberals that America is worse than Nazi Germany, while simultaneously the most heinous abuse, torture, and murder anywhere else in the world is just "a different culture" that must be respected above all else. An example: In the US the first-year students were (and still are by me because I'm a neanderthal I guess) called freshman. This is obvious proof that America is repressive towards women and is a mysongenistic hellhole. Meanwhile in the Islamic world that we should never interfere with with our evil American "values" women are routinely killed after they are raped or seen to be "damaged". These are called "honor" killings and are a perfectly normal part of the culture, but remember they must be respected at all costs! See wonderful it is anywhere in the world except for the US? But you won't get any criticism of that in 90% of university campuses and you don't see much if anything to put in perspective how good we really do have things here in the US on Slashdot.
AntiFA: An abbreviation for Anti First Amendment.
I'm just correcting your statistics, which still got you a +4 as of this writing.
Fox news looks "conservative" because unlike the "mainstream" media, they report BOTH sides. The liberal media doesn't like the competition that fox, drudge, world net daily, Rush, etc....... for over 40 years, they could say what they wanted, and no one was the wiser. Now with the internet, talk radio, the "other side" has gotten their message out, and the public likes what it hears. They don't like the fact that the public is getting informed by someone other than them, and they are going to say or do whatever it takes to get their power back, at any cost. If and when (it will happen unfortunately) the left gets control of the white house, and congress, they will appoint judges that will allow them to railroad the "fairness doctrine" which will attempt to pull the plug on talk radio. Liberals think it isn't fair that conservative talk radio has the audience it has. They think it is an unfair advantage. Let see...the left has: NPR, CNN, ABC, CBS. Just watch any of the above mentioned stations, when they have a "round table" discussion on just about any topic. Their idea of "balance" is to have a commetator, 3 panelist (all of which spout liberal garbage), and one somewhat moderate conservative. That is their idea of balance. Air America, the so far disappointing attempt by the left to "get their message out" will fail. Why? simple. They are not entertaining. I listened to it a few times on XM, and all it was was whinning, name calling about what is wrong with the conservatives. Did they offer any constructive ideas? No. If a show, no matter how it is broadcast, is not entertaining, then people will not listen to it. Do they have a right to broadcast anything they want? You bet! 1st amendment. Unlike some on the right, I think that Howard Stern and the like have every right to be on the air. It is my choice NOT to listen. That is called freedom. To me shows like that are not entertaining, they are simply trash. If there are enough shows on the air, people make a choice. I think there are enough shows on the air with the left view AND the right view. Unfortunately for the left, the majority of the public wants to listen or watch the more conservative shows. Just look at the 2000 election map. The one with the red and blue. The reason there were a lot of red is that the majority of the public outside the major population centers are conservative. The large cities, like NYC, LA, Chicago et al, are for the most part, liberal. They live liberal lives and ideas. Another reason we have the electoral college. Yes, Gore one the popular vote, but he lost the electoral vote. It's in the constitution. Not one president has ever one an election by a vote of the people. They one it via the vote of the electoral college. We live in a representative form of government. We live by the rule of laws. If you don't like the rules, work within the system to change them. The left just doesn't like the idea that the PEOPLE can vote. Let me rephrase that. The left doesn't like the idea that the WRONG people vote. Why do you think they are working to allow convicted felons, and prisoners the "right" to vote? Because the majority of them would vote democratic. Once convicted of a felony, you have LOST your right to vote. Period. The left just doesn't like the idea of fair and balanced news reporting, and will not stop, until they can ramrod a way to stop different opinions.
Let us see: Lenin, Stalin, Castro, a whole host of modernday American senators, most of the DNC, even some GOP members, and millions of other leftists nuts who will never make it into power. But I suppose you're going to think up some sort of excuse to explain why those people aren't leftists and I'm just talking out of my bunghole.
I wouldn't mind Michael Moore so much if he wasn't nuttier and less honest than many of the folks he likes to skewer. His phony humble pie act doesn't fool anyone. If his films are documentaries then Leni Riefenstahl's films are documentaries too.
As a Republican nerd, I think we should kill everyone that disagrees with us.
But not before we make them wear panties on their heads. That's so cool.
Burn, karma, burn!
You hear people complaining: What about sitting down watching Fox News (and tape it), then suppliment your news coverage with other sources. Then go back to your tape of Fox News and see how biased they are.
I've read all the news sites, including Fox News. I haven't seen bias in fox's articles that I've read, but I have seen bias in what CNN decides to cover.
The people complaining about Fox News are the kind of people that reads newspapers, follows the news on multiple channels and have a genrally good political overview.
No, the people that complain about fox news are liberals, plain and simple. If the news doesn't lean to the left, they see it as being biased. Central is not biased.
Not that Fox News are bad, but they are entertainment
Perhaps you are confusing fox news with the commentators that appear on the channel, like Bill O'Reilly. No one considers those people "news" people. Just like turning on CNN and watching their liberal commentators.
Ironically, the word ironically is often used incorrectly.
You know it's funny. Europe has been on the decline for 40+ years and they just don't like it. I'll tell you what...the NEXT time France is invaded by someone, we'll just stay home. And by the way, we'll be coming over to take our war dead from your soil, and bring them back to America, where they are APPRECIATED. So many of Americas brave men, gave their lives in WW1, and WW2 to save their puny rumps, and they never said thanks. The French people in their 70's and older get it. But the younger ones don't. I wonder if they would change their minds if someone invaded their country......
It was attended by hollywood (who hate bush) in the country of france (who hates bush) and criticizes of all people, bush. Now did you expect anything different? Now would have been a perfect time to send some cruise missiles and do a little cleaning. Take that for trying to stop us from flying over and bombing that asshole qadaffi.
Only the State obtains its revenue by coercion. - Murray Rothbard
Who cares what some fat hypociritcal fuckhead said in a fake documentary about some dunce hypocritical politician? All that stuff is bullshit played on a tottering stage by people with broken minds.
It won an award? Wow. A left leaning anti-Bush film was granted an award by a left leaning crowd in a country that hates Bush. Who would have thunk it? Not only is it non-Slashdot news, it non-news period. It's like Scientologists getting together to vote L. Ron Hubbard man of the year, or something.
--- Ban humanity.
Shouldn't the President of the United States be expected to hold the truth in a higher regard than a filmmaker?
Gee, are you saying we should hold the President of the United States to a higher standard than that to which we hold movie producers/directors? I thought the liberal chorus was that "everyone did it", and we shouldn't hold elected officials to higher standards? Can't you people make up your mind(s)?
God invented whiskey so the Irish would not rule the world.
Why are you so concerned with PRESENTATION? You should be trying to independently verify your NEWS when possible and reasonable. Why would you ever take that stuff for granted?
For example, I'm working on a game and we had it demo at E3. We were excited to read the coverage, and interestingly, some of it was incorrect. The reporters made little slips, but they're still giving their readers mis-information. I'm sure that normal journalists are the same. They're human, and prone to small mistakes here and there. Your news is likely slightly incorrect in many ways, every day. Why aren't you up in arms about how they're presenting it as FACT but it has all sorts of right or left-wing spin on it?
All media is subject to scrutiny, no matter how it's presented. Don't single out Moore's 'Mockumentaries' (which is how he actually presents them...I'm sure the Academy is the one that puts him in the 'Documentary' category) for being particularily misleading in its classification.
Wow...that's not flamebait? But the well written response to it is flamebait?
Moore Film Captures French, Arab Awards
(2004-05-23) -- After the stunning triumph of Michael Moore's Fahrenheit 9/11 at the Cannes Film Festival in France, the winner of the coveted Palme d'Or headed to the Gulf state of Qatar to accept another best film award from Al Jazeera.
The Arab network's Palme d'Tree award recognizes Mr. Moore's anti-Bush documentary as a "stunning journalistic and artistic achievement which is all the more amazing because of the oppressive government under which it was produced."
"That someone could make a film like this in America, under the iron fist of the Bush-Cheney administration, demonstrates a kind of courage unknown and unnecessary in the free Arab film industry," according to the official news release from the Al Jazeera Film Festival.
Fahrenheit 9/11 edged out top Arab-produced films including, The Mighty Eternal House of Saud, Zarqawi: Hero of Modern Islam and Elegy for a Brother: Tribute to Saddam Hussein.
Mr. Moore said he's delighted to receive recognition from both France and the Arab world in the same week, and that he hoped it would inspire other Americans to "rise up and overthrow the Bush regime and thus win freedom of expression for other documentarists."
How about if that were my real name I could sue your ass for libel. You're a worthless sack of shit anyhow, so go fuck yourself. You ever see me, I'll be sure to bury you. PROMISED.
Slashdot is proof that Sturgeon's Law applies to mankind.
The only reason this "movie" did so well in France is because the French HATE Bush.
If Bill Clinton had been doing something on his watch BESIDES getting a blowjob, the war and half trillion dollars would not have been necessary. 9/11 might not have happened. Instead, he cozied up to our enemies. Let opportunities pass to capture or kill Bin Laden. Dismantled our intelligence infrastructure. George Bush is one of the worst public speakers I've ever seen (for a President). But at least he's doing something. He's not stupid, much as a lot of you would like to make him out to be. You don't get to be President by being stupid. Clinton isn't stupid either. I shudder to think how fucked up this world will be in 5 years if Kerry takes over and withdraws from Iraq. That will virutally guarantee that radical fundamentalist Islam does the same thing in Iraq that it did to Iran. You figure out the consequences to the stability of our world if a major piece of the energy supply is suddenly controlled by a culture who would just as soon (and actively tries to) kill you as look at you. I don't want to support either side in politics nowadays. These people are ALL - every one of them - fucked up. The idea that I have to choose from the lesser fucked up side kills me. I would vote libertarian or someone independent, but a vote for anyone else is a vote for Kerry, and I can stand that less than I can Bush. OK
Let me get this right...
1) Clinton is a liar
2) Clinton had the same intel, and said the same thing Bush said
3) Bush is not a liar
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Let's do it again
1) Clinton is a liar
2) Bush and Clinton said tha same thing
3) Bush is not a liar
Did I get that right?
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Now, the truth (as I see it).
Clinton got intel, and could not get confirmation... and thus, did not act on it.
Bush got told what he wanted to hear and did... because that is what he wanted. (Jesus freaks are like that... not too swift.)
End result... Bush is Iran's bitch... too stupid not to fall for the trap.
Easily manipulated.
Not fit.
Next...
--Phillip
Can you say BIRTH TAX
Yes. Yes I do. While the US has not yet descended to the depths of Germany, there are signs it is headed in an analogous direction. So I ask again, in paraphrase: "Is it wrong to root for your government's defeat, if you sincerely feel its policies are so misguided that their success would lead to much greater harm in the long run than would their failure in the short run?"
I don't care if it's 90,000 hectares. That lake was not my doing.
Anybody with half a brain would notice the editing. The fact that most of you idiots didn't until Rush told you about it means you shouldn't be owning guns.
Lars T.
To the guy who modded me down from perfect to terrible Karma - Apple haters still suck
The way words like "liberal" and "left-wing" are used here makes my hair stand up straight.
I think most Americans haven't a beginning of a clue how it is the rest of the world don't like them anymore.
You should really try to start getting interested in the rest of the world - but for once not while bombing the hell out of it.
Excuse the general slant in the direction of the USA, I thankfully know enough levelheaded Americans with a clue. But I wish there were more of them, and that the rest weren't such morons when voicing their political wisdom.
You can criticize "liberals" as much as you like, it shows that either you don't have a clue or - which keeps shocking me - you actually think words like "soft targets" are reasonable when applied to countries that are currently not in your favor.
Soft targets are population centers, hospitals and farms. If you don't know what I'm talking about, you're imo not entitled to foulmouth "liberals".
I think, therefore I am...I think.