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Remote New Zealand Volcano Sees Dinosaur Alert?

Thanks to BoingBoing for pointing to a ChannelNewsAsia story discussing a 'dinosaur' sighting in webcam pictures of a remote New Zealand volcano. The latest live webcam picture shows the offending creature, with Geonet spokesperson John Callan saying: "Some wag has glued a [toy] pink dinosaur in front of our digital camera", even though "...most people do not go ashore on the uninhabited, rumbling" White Island, east of Auckland, where the webcam is located. Apparently, the dinosaur will stay for now, since authorities "are not planning on removing it, counting on the sulphur and high acid environment to deal to the creature."

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  1. Hah! by Some+guy+named+Chris · · Score: 5, Informative

    The Australian Broadcasting Corporation has a story complete with picture in case of a Slashdotting.

    This is a great hack. It has to be an inside job. How else would they know when the camera takes pictures, to avoid getting caught. Not to mention the exact location of the camera.

    Too funny!

    1. Re:Hah! by trs9000 · · Score: 5, Informative

      well i dont know that it has to be an inside job.
      from this article it says that:

      the webcam is updated hourly and

      the nz team got a lot of responses about the inflatable dino.

      so im assuming this information is known and available to the public and also that enough people follow the cam. i dont know these things for sure cause nz is getting /.ed.

  2. "Some Wag"? by DynaSoar · · Score: 4, Funny

    "Some wag" is a cop out. They did it and are afraid to admit it. Who else would have the necessary safety equipment to put the toy there, other than the people who put the web cam there, and who else would know exactly where the web cam was on an island that "people don't go on"? We're expected to believe "some wag" jusy happened along in that forbidding scenery and just happened to be carrying that particular toy, and happened to find that aprticular spot and know what the thing was attached to?

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    1. Re:"Some Wag"? by LostCluster · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Are they the only scientific project on the "unhabited island"? If there's more than one crew taking measurements, it wouldn't be too far out to mess with a rivial team's camera this way.

    2. Re:"Some Wag"? by Rakshasa+Taisab · · Score: 5, Insightful

      You can propably get there without any safety equipment. You can locate the web cam by looking at the pictures...

      If the dino appered suddenly (as the article suggest), then it propably was by some outsider.

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    3. Re:"Some Wag"? by Roland+Piquepaille · · Score: 5, Funny

      "Some wag" is a cop out. They did it and are afraid to admit it. Who else would have the necessary safety equipment to put the toy there

      What tells you there isn't the horribly burnt, decomposing cadaver of the tourist prankster down on the ground, out of the camera's field of view?

    4. Re:"Some Wag"? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

      White Island isn't a dangerous, lava-covered island. It's actually relatively safe so long as you don't stay there too long and, on bad days, where a mask. Tourist boats go out there all the time, it's just that most of them don't stop off to let people wander around due to the liability problems of having un-educated people wandering around a live volcano spewing out noxious fumes. If you're careful, you can easily get on, attach a Dino, and get off again.

    5. Re:"Some Wag"? by taniwha · · Score: 5, Insightful

      White Island's not that far from shore - certainly within reach of any of the local sea-going pleasure boats - from memory people actually used to mine sulphur there in years gone by - but it's also somewhere that's particularly expected to let loose one day soon so it's not reccomended

    6. Re:"Some Wag"? by Roland+Piquepaille · · Score: 4, Funny

      If you're careful, you can easily get on, attach a Dino, and get off again.

      Hmmmmm, and how would you know so much about going there, attaching a Dino and getting off again, eh?

      HERE HE IS EVERYBODY, HE'S THE GUILTY MAN!

    7. Re:"Some Wag"? by SlowMovingTarget · · Score: 4, Funny

      Maybe they just need to go widescreen. "Right side: Waaawwwwwww!"

    8. Re:"Some Wag"? by sploo22 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      The island's only about a mile and a half across; using this picture and the webcam image, it's pretty obvious where the camera has to be to within about a quarter-mile.

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    9. Re:"Some Wag"? by Dumbush · · Score: 5, Funny

      wow, but that guy is all over the forum!

  3. Not as offending as another pink dinosaur... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    ... to go unnamed.

    1. Re:Not as offending as another pink dinosaur... by WillWare · · Score: 4, Funny

      Nope, that dinosaur is purple. Maybe he turns pink when you cook him?

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  4. In other news... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Actually, there IS no other news, which is why this made it to the front page.

  5. Who? by NIK282000 · · Score: 5, Funny

    Who has the time to go up a volcano to pull a global prank? Only a geek

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  6. So .. by Bitmanhome · · Score: 5, Funny

    Slashdot points to BoingBoing points to ChannelNewsAsia points to a webcam pointing at New Zealand?

    I think I'm getting dizzy..

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    1. Re:So .. by City_Idiot · · Score: 4, Funny

      And in Wellington, New Zealand a little server suffers a Slash-Heart Attack

    2. Re:So .. by daeley · · Score: 4, Funny

      Just wait until the Dino figurine starts a blog. The intarweb just might explode.

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  7. Fred's pet by rctay · · Score: 5, Interesting

    This could create a new fad. Place object of choice in the field of these site cams.

  8. Re:Flintstones... meet the Flintstones. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Thanks to BoingBoing for pointing

    Shouldn't that read BamBam?

  9. Won't the plastic last despite the sulfur... by henryhbk · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Many plastics are fairly resistant to acidic environments and sulfur aren't they? Isn't this why toys like this last for hundreds of years? I realize that many plastics have different chemical characteristics, but aren't the majority pretty inert? Someone out there with some plastics chemistry knowledge like to weigh in?

    1. Re:Won't the plastic last despite the sulfur... by arivanov · · Score: 5, Informative

      Not any more. Most companies have learned the lesson that they are too inert and they are not getting enough turnover. As a result modern toy and household plastics have under 5 years of life and become brittle and break due to decomposition and loss of plastifiers. Some plastics are even more short lived (plastic bags have under 6 months of life). So that dino is not going to be there for very long.

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  10. Audio? by SlowMovingTarget · · Score: 4, Funny

    After turning up the audio gain for the web cam, said dinosaur was heard to vocalize: "Buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh!!!"

  11. You fools! by mcc · · Score: 4, Funny

    That's not a dinosaur, it's Smaug! He's escaped from the set of Peter Jackon's The Hobbit and is trying to nest!

    If they don't do something quickly, this could be even worse than the incident when all those orcs got loose during the Battle of Helm's Deep filming and slaughtered that busload of Japanese tourists!

    1. Re:You fools! by mcc · · Score: 4, Funny

      Silly rabbit, Peter Jackson's working on King Kong and won't commence shooting The Hobbit for some time.

      Oh, and that's supposed to make me feel better?? The man couldn't keep control of an orc herd in rural New Zealand, and you're expecting him to be able to rein in a giant god-like ape creature representing the untamable and unfathomable strength of nature while shooting in New York?? Oh yeah, I'm sure nothing will go wrong.

      Just you wait, one of the junior rigging people is going to mess up with the lighting or something while shooting one of Kong's scenes, the handler won't be able to calm him down, and before you know it the property damage will be in the millions, the ASCPA rep will be in tears and the liability lawsuits will be pouring in...

  12. Love the burn-in by zcat_NZ · · Score: 5, Informative

    If you're ever setting up a webcam outside, position it so that the sun is always behind it, not shining directly into the camera for two or three hours every afternoon.

    I learned this the hard way; my weathercam has exactly the same pattern of smokey lines across the sky now too..

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  13. fact check? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    actually it's not that remote, it's a 40 min boat ride from where i live, tourists go there almost daily (yes i've been too) and it certainly is not fuckin east of auckland!

    1. Re:fact check? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      and it certainly is not fuckin east of auckland!

      May I remind you that this is Slashdot, which is an American site, and to Americans, anything outside of the US is called Foreignland and everybody speaks Foreigner. (Oh yes, and some parts of Foreignland have oil, and those inhabitants who happen to live near the oil may be tortured at will, in order to surrender said oil).

      Anyway, the point is, to an American, you're just a Foreign citizen who happen to speak their tongue natively, and they really don't give a shit where you are exactly, or where is White Island and Auckland for that matter. What matters is that they recognized Dino on the picture, and also... oooh, shiny!...

  14. Re:Flintstones... meet the Flintstones. by the+MaD+HuNGaRIaN · · Score: 5, Funny

    Agreed. I went there out of curiosity--to see the Dinosaur. When I saw "Dino" I almost blew a half a can of Mt. Dew at my laptop....LOL! That's classic!

  15. Re:Anybody done something like this with... by gphinch · · Score: 5, Funny

    And we get to watch Dino slowly melt into purple goo.

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  16. White island by lakeland · · Score: 4, Informative

    Actually, white island isn't that remote. It is a fairly popular daytrip. I'd post photos from a holiday there, but there's no way my 128k DSL line can handle slashdot :-(

  17. Mirror by davew666 · · Score: 5, Informative

    Here is a copy of the photo, as the site is S L O W at the moment

  18. Mirror of the image... by Pranjal · · Score: 5, Funny

    ..in case of slashdotting. Mirror

  19. Re:Flintstones... meet the Flintstones. by Alizarin+Erythrosin · · Score: 4, Funny

    ...Until they see the picture and realise that Dino is a purple dinosaur.

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  20. what is the camera made out of? by slyguy420 · · Score: 5, Funny

    If plastics melt in this particular enviroment, what is the webcam made out of?

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  21. Neat Idea by V50 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    If it does slowly melt like the article implies, it would be rather neat to download and save the photo everyday and create a time-lapse video of it melting... If it actually does...

  22. Weak up, this is a cover up people! by ArcticCelt · · Score: 4, Funny

    The real thing is that scientists are conducting experiments on the poor little thing by testing the limit that Dino can reach in an inhospitable environment. Please stop the insanity and save the dinosaur.

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  23. Re:Has it occured to anyone by xMjollnir · · Score: 5, Funny

    the dinosaur _is_ there, I work at GNS and our internet is really slow thanks to you lot.

  24. Re:Has it occured to anyone by xMjollnir · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Gee, I'm not sure what I could have to back it up that would make you believe me. Yes, it was an inside job. No, I don't have proof.

  25. I've been to the White Island by stvangel · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Was there with some friends a few years ago. It was fun. Sail north for a couple hours, climb around the volcano for a few hours, and sail back. I've got tons of pictures of us climbing around the crater, sulpher pools, and factory ruins. They used to have factories built in it to process the sulphur, but after they were destroyed the third time, they never rebuilt.

    It's actually fairly safe there. The volcano is quite well behaved. It throws out steam continuously, and only occasionally has hissy-fits where it throws out rocks the size of coffee-tables. Those come and go, so as long as you avoid it during particularily active times, you'll be fine.

  26. It's been there for three weeks by Chris+Brewer · · Score: 4, Informative

    As in the email I sent to the Inquirer in reply to this article, it appeared between 11am and Noon NZST on the 5th of may, as evidenced by these archived shots: 11am Noon. Given the positioning and angle, I suspect someone who has access to the camera and was able to make sure it was lined up correctly.

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  27. Source of figurine identified by cssjunkie · · Score: 5, Informative

    I've been studying this sauropod since thursday, and I believe that it is a plastic pen topper, one of a group of Flintstone pen toppers available on the web:

    http://amres-pics.com/p_asp/a4091.asp

    Here's the topo of the island:

    http://www.gns.cri.nz/what/earthact/volcanoes/nz volcanoes/bookimages/Whit_fig1.gif

    ..and more stuff about it:

    http://www.wi.co.nz/hazards.htm

    The camera is actually located near the beach, about 3/4 kilometers from any active vents, so it's pretty safe and highly accessible by boat. Apparently groups of geology students are sent out there to study, and probably to maintain the camera too. I guess one of them had this fancy topper along, and was struct by sudden inspiration. Since there is likely a pen or pencil under Dino, it will be highly stable against disturbances.

    There is a forum about White island, but in 3 years most posts seem to be blank submits from students "learning" about the island. There was one post a few days ago that mentioned the 'saur, but no other word before that.

    A page on that now-slashdotted site showed the camera setup, and it looks like the camera is just above ground level, matching what's seen in the live image, so I doubt it's faked.

    Compared to some other photos, the island seems fairly quiet right now.

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  28. Don't tell Occupational Safety and Health by David_R · · Score: 5, Funny

    The dinosaur is contravening OSH guidelines by not wearing a hard hat.

  29. Re:Flintstones... meet the Flintstones. by lucifer_666 · · Score: 5, Informative

    He's only purple in NTSC. Here in PAL world, the colour is much closer to pink.

  30. Re:Flintstones... meet the Flintstones. by magarity · · Score: 5, Funny

    Sorry, here on /. we can only see the male color palette. Female-visible color shades like lavender and fuscia are simply purple and pink, respectively.

  31. Re:no safety equipment, no brain by limegreenman · · Score: 4, Informative

    There are quite a lot of active volcanoes in New Zealand, some of which are fairly frequently visited by trampers (hikers). In the case of White Island, the government funded Geological and Nuclear Sciences Institute (who incidentally part fund the webcam) have the a hazard advice booklet on the web for those who wish to visit White Island: Visitors to White Island should avoid steam/gas clouds, and watch for wind changes that could blow clouds in their direction. Gas masks with acid gas filters are advisable, to be work if gas becomes a problem. http://www.gns.cri.nz/what/earthact/volcanoes/nzvo lcanoes/whiteisprint.htm