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China Developing own Standards

J ROC writes "Encouraged by their government Chinese electronics firms are shunning technological protocols invented abroad and developing their own, according to this article. The Chinese have developed several standards including EVD to replace DVD standards, and TD-SCDMA to replace the CDMA cell phone standard found elsewhere. The reasons seem to be partly based on "techno-nationalism", and Chinese firms growing tired of paying foreign patent fees. While this may force foreign firms to lower their patent fees, some experts warn that China risks isolating itself if it creates standards that are incompatible with the rest of the world."

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  1. VCDS?!? by lacrymology.com · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    Does this mean that my pirate VCDs will no longer work in my player? What a rip-off!

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  2. Communism [Moving OT] by jwthompson2 · · Score: 0, Offtopic
    There is an interesting note at the wikipedia page on communism
    Marxists believe that just as society has transformed from feudalism to capitalism, it will transform into socialism and eventually communism . However the method by which this transformation occurs distinguishes communists from other socialists including those that believe in Marxism, in that communists believe that this will be accomplished by revolutionary means.

    This is interesting to me because communism depends on a single fundamental thing: that humans are or can pretend to be selfless and communal. Basically that they are in some way inherently good. Capitalism however is based on the basic fact that humans are greedy and selfish. These two things are polar opposites since personal greed and selfishness destroys everything communism needs to exist and thrive. I have already been labeled a religious zealot and will inject my opinion/beliefs here. My understanding, experience and beliefs say that mankind is inherently depraved/sinful/evil/etc. and thus capitalism is a natural choice for mankind because it thrives on our very nature as selfish creatures. Sure it can benefit in some situations from selfless acts, but not in the same way it is theorized to do from individual ambition. Socialism is an interesting blend because it depends on the greedy and ambitious to fund its communal efforts and thus creates a semi-sustainable system as long as the expidentures for the 'common good' do not exceed the means or willingness of those who bankroll said expidentures. So what is the best form of government/economics? Well Capitalism however it is expressed is by far the most natural, communism is the most idealistic and socialism may well be the only possible balance since it gives room for greed and generosity all in one. But then where does religion fit in? I would think some form of socialism is a nice place if only socialism would embrace instead of limit or try to eliminate religious expression as it does in America and elsewhere since, at least in Christian thought, generosity and kindness are suppose to be core tennants that have no real justification apart from opinion and conjecture outside of religious thought.
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  3. Re:China is largest remaining Communist state by Mr+Guy · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    You are like the Baptist extremist who says that Catholics are not Christian.

    I know, I know, don't feed the trolls. Anyway, don't piss this away too quickly. It depends on whether you are talking about Christian as from an outside cultural view or Christian from an internal fundamentalist view. ( As in the US is a "Christian" nation VS "born again" believers ). It is quite possible to be a Catholic and not be a Christian in the fundamentalist sense of the word, because it possible to join the Catholic church, or Baptist or any other church, and be confused about the meanings behind the words you are saying. One of the largest points of tension between the protestants and the Catholics is that Catholics are often confused that the source of salvation is the church itself: Hence the severity of excommunication.

    For a brief summary of the bare minimum many people agree you need to believe to be considered "Christian" as in born again, consider reading over The Apostle's Creed, which, I understand, was popularized by the Catholic Church.

  4. America, the 800 pound gorilla... by Saeed+al-Sahaf · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    The RIAA to haul up hundreds of people in the name of the draconian DMCA are the least of the "rules" of free society that the United States does not adhere to. If we Americans don't like some silly "free society" rule, we simply say it does not apply to us. I could list many such rules here, from free trade rules to things like Iraq. And of course this goes way back before GWB and his henchmen where in power here, we have always been the 800 pound gorilla who sleeps where we want. But this is all way off-topic...

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  5. Re:This shouldn't come as a surprise.... by chris_mahan · · Score: 1, Offtopic

    Except that we don't know exactly under what circumstances those dead detainees died under. Between getting my head sawed off and being tortured for hours by brutal, cruel, and gruesome US interrogators, then killed, I dunno man.

    Maybe the US interrogators should have the decency of building a gas chamber to humanely terminate their failed interrogation experiments.

    Welcome to Hell.

    Oh, and the ends never justify the means.
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    On China. They have a 5000 + years history, and they have at various times held the reins of innovation (gunpowder anyone?). I wouldn't put it past chinese ingenosity to come up with really good stuff; and the Chinese government is a body perfectly capable of enforcing standards.
    Also note that a large amount of the world's electronics is made in China. They of all people have the resources to actually make cheap, reliable, and standards-based electronic devices.

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