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Highest Bridge in the World Nearing Completion

An anonymous reader writes "A weekend cookie for all engineering geeks out here. The central span of the Millau bridge (270 meters or 886 ft) has been completed!" The photo is awesome.

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  1. Two Words by toygeek · · Score: 4, Funny

    Base Jump!

    1. Re:Two Words by JohnDifool · · Score: 2, Informative

      two friends of mine did it last week-end, 6 am.
      Awesome jump. They loved it.
      this bridge is gonna see a lot of base jumpers....

    2. Re:Two Words by ackthpt · · Score: 2, Informative
      Base Jump!

      Back in my more fearless days I went camping in West Virginia (behind the Red Dog Saloon, near Fayetteville) for a week and some rafting on the New River. Life behind a bar seemed to begin and end days with a beer in hand and fuzzy sense of things. The sleep deprivation, brought on by thundering (and I really do mean thundering, like 150db or louder) coal trucks dashing down into the gorge every night, didn't help matters much. Eventually my bud Roger suggests we do bridge laps, in reference to the New River Gorge bridge. So what are those? Oh, we'll see. It invovled drinking about six beers then walking along an I beam for about 20 feet then skulking along the cat walk to about halfway out into the gorge where a little access ladder on either side of the bridge allows on to climb up, scramble across and down the other side. Certainly it's one of the highest bridges I've ever been on, or under. A set of train track deep in the gorge, with a tiny spotlight shining on it from near a service shed, looked like N-guage. It was slightly comforting to note that aside from seeing the light on the track there was little other indication of how far below the bottom of the gorge was.

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    3. Re:Two Words by caeldeus · · Score: 2, Informative

      I have jumped the New River Bridge numerous times. Back when I was BASE jumping, BASE is an acronym, more heavily than now I'm sure I'd try to check this place out.

      For info check out http://www.blincmagazine.com

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  2. heights? scary! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    ..great, something i can stand on and pee my pants lookin off of...

    im scared of heights, you insensitive clod!

  3. bungee!!! by jred · · Score: 3, Funny

    I've never bungee jumped before, but that pic sure made me think about it. Damn! But I'm scared of heights...

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  4. Re:Highest? by deniea · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Yes, I was on the news this afternoon overhere (Netherlands). It's higher than the Eifel tower (Paris, France)

  5. Lowest Bidder by TheOldFart · · Score: 4, Funny

    Are these the same people who built the new terminal at Charles De Gaulle?

    1. Re:Lowest Bidder by rilister · · Score: 5, Informative

      no, but the architect is Sir Norman Foster of Foster and Partners, responsible for the Millenium Footbridge in London that had to be closed after it was found to be dangerous... ...I'll follow you over...

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    2. Re:Lowest Bidder by misterpies · · Score: 5, Informative


      Double inaccuracy... first of all, the millenium bridge was by Lord Foster, not Sir Foster (if you think such details are irrelevant, try talking about Congressman Kerry and Prime Minister Bush). And secondly, it was never found to be dangerous. It was closed temporarily when it was found to sway several feet from side to side under heavy foot traffic due to an unforeseen resonance at around the frequency of human walking. (Frankly, this was the falt of the engineers more than the architect.) This was fixed by adding a few dampers and now it's perfectly steady.

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    3. Re:Lowest Bidder by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      People walk slightly in step, and on the millenium bridge this caused a minor sway, and then everybody walked in step with the sway - which made it sway even more.

      The "fault" was that the engineers didnt expect this human behaviour, and the extent of the sway made people uncomfortable. I beleive they fixed the sway by adding fairly simple dampers to it, not beacause there was any danger but because people found it uncomfortable (and probably more to the point, news coverage was embarrasing for the engineering firm).

      Google came up with this FMI.

    4. Re:Lowest Bidder by rilister · · Score: 2

      er, he's commonly referred to as both, mainly because he was Sir Norman Foster before he was made a Lord.

      Bush was never a Prime Minister, AFAK...

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    5. Re:Lowest Bidder by kfg · · Score: 3, Informative

      Bush was never a Prime Minister, AFAK...

      But if he were it would be improper to call him President Bush in anything other than the past tense.

      Jimmy Carter is "President" Carter only when refering to a time when he was the actual sitting President, and contemporaneously he may be properly refered to as "Former President" Carter or addressed as "Mr." Carter.

      Nevermind the fact that "President" and "Prime Misister" are actually the names of the offices, not a title, and the forms are different. To take something of an extreme example it would be improper to address Wendy Carlos as "Mr.".

      If one did address Ms. Carlos as Mr. or "The former Mr. Carlos" it would likely be taken as a delibate slight at his current status.

      So too, for addressing Lord Norman Foster as the "Former Sir." Without contextual qualifications it implies an impuning of his right to be a Lord.

      misterpies made a double error of his own, however. There is not, and never was either a Sir or Lord Foster. The title attaches to the name of the recipient, not the recipient's father.

      Thus it is Sir/Lord Norman, or Sir/Lord Norman Foster, but never Sir/Lord Foster (Just as Churchill was Lord Randolph).

      KFG

  6. Pylons... by th1ckasabr1ck · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I wonder how wide those pylons are? They look like they are a decent width, but of course it's tough to tell with that perspective.

    1. Re:Pylons... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative
      Pylons? You probably mean the pillars. There are seven, each with a different height, owing to ground elevation differences:
      1. P1 : 94,50 m
      2. P2 : 244,96 m
      3. P3 : 221,05 m
      4. P4 : 144,21 m
      5. P5 : 136,42 m
      6. P6 : 111,94 m
      7. P7 : 77,56 m

      There are also seven temporary pillars, soon to be removed. The central core, north, is 717m, and wings are about 670m. At south, the central core is 1744m, with wings 1573m.

      The motorway is two lanes wide in each direction with a three-metre wide hard shoulder on each side and a one-metre wide bande dérasée next to the central crash barrier.

      And for all you Americans joking about the terminal collapse, consider that in France, bridges are built. In America, bridges are burned--figuratively, of course, since the terrorists have not (yet) taken down your tallest bridges. Give them time, or peace be with you.
    2. Re:Pylons... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      You know your right...
      And on behave of all Americans we are so sorry we kept you from your destiny with your Nazi overlords.....

  7. try this website by werdnapk · · Score: 5, Informative
    The posted site seems to be /.'ed already, try this one out instead.

    That sure is some bridge, but must be a real eyesore to those who have to live near it.

    1. Re:try this website by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I drove through Millau a few weeks ago, and it is one mother-hubbard of a bridge. I didn't know it was the tallest. Millau is a really bad bottleneck and the existing road is strangled by the lorries which must use it.

      Yes it does rather look "stuck-on" to the scenery. I'm not sure why they couldn't just build a by-pass folowing the contours rather than the whopping bridge. That's my tax money paying for that.

    2. Re:try this website by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      Well, you Frenchmen are taxed enough, might as well use the money for something useful!

  8. Re:What's the use? by PHP+Wolf · · Score: 5, Funny
    What's the use of having a bridge that is that high? Just seems like a serious waste of resources just for bragging rights.

    They get serious flooding in that valley.

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  9. Er... why? by FFFish · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Why did they build this bridge? That looks like a perfectly nice valley down there, easy to push a road through, and at 1/100th the cost and no where near the danger.

    Is this a penis boast ("I've got the biggest bridge!"), an environment issue ("No automobiles in this valley!"), an ownership issue, what??

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    1. Re:Er... why? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

      They built it because every summer thousands of cars get stuck in Millau while traveling from north to south.

    2. Re:Er... why? by ThisIsFred · · Score: 3, Informative

      Mod parent up!

      From the site:

      "Eiffage was selected to carry out this project combining the techniques of concrete with those of steel.

      Constituting the last stretch of the A75 motorway, once opened it will enable Clermont-Ferrand to be reached directly from Béziers, so getting rid of the infamous Millau traffic bottleneck."

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    3. Re:Er... why? by Chairboy · · Score: 5, Funny

      Because the german army hates to march up and down hills, of course.

    4. Re:Er... why? by bobbyque · · Score: 5, Interesting

      For the same reason people build smokestacks...to lift pollution out of a valley. That's the Rhone Valley down there: "Millau's 20,000 residents can also breathe easier--literally--since the bridge opening will put an end to decades of environmental damage caused by the endless lines of vehicles and traffic jams." (http://www.pobonline.com/CDA/ArticleInformation/c overstory/BNPCoverStoryItem/0,2340,108886,00.html)

    5. Re:Er... why? by NoMoreNicksLeft · · Score: 2, Funny

      Obivously, they built the bridge to protect french culture from the cancer that is americanism. Too many people over there drive american-made cars rather than the home-grown Renault. As such, the prime minister made it a priority to get a law passed to protect people from the site of Fords and chevys. No foreign made cars are allowed below an altitude of 656 ft. 20% of the revenue from tolls will be used to firebomb McDonald's and to petition the UN to pass a resolution forbidding california vintners to call their brew "champagne".

      There is a nice cobblestone road in the valley, for which people riding in horse-drawn carriages are welcome.

      But let's talk about some of the other technical marvels of this bridge. Did you know that it has the most sensitive microphones ever built, placed every 20 feet of roadway. A supercomputer monitors them, filtering out road noise and wind, and doing speech recognition. It can detect someone saying "le weekend" with their windows rolled up while they're driving 80kph, and report them to the police instantly! Or how about the anti-gravity conveyors on the westbound lane, that will allow french citizens to retreat at over 500kph, should there ever be a need. These are the kinds of things yahoo just fails to mention.

    6. Re:Er... why? by k98sven · · Score: 5, Funny

      But doesn't it seem more fitting to computer geeks if the road to Béziers is curved?

    7. Re:Er... why? by orzetto · · Score: 2, Informative
      Is this a penis boast ("I've got the biggest bridge!")

      It's called grandeur and it's the psychological hideout where the French still pretend they're a nation that makes the its enemies tremble in a world where French is the world language. As a (former) neighbour of France, I can say this is the attitude that generally mostly pisses off the rest of Europe. Luckily most Frenchmen are alright persons, but the fact that chauvinism* comes from a certain Chauvin should indicate that the French culture has a long line of nutty patriotic crap to digest.

      an environment issue ("No automobiles in this valley!")

      Hardly... this bridge is among the ugliest I've ever seen, I think it's enough to trigger a heart attack in any environmentalist's chest. It reminds me of a bridge I had seen in Abruzzo, Italy, in a very similar situation; not as high I guess, but definitely equally ugly. In that case, the most likely reason was to start an expensive series of public works, so that a lot of money would have been sent from Rome, so that politicians could "shave off" their fat share. Wonder what was the drive in France.

      * Chauvinism is the exhaltation of the Motherland beyond any reason. The project for a new American century is, for example, chauvinistic. It has nothing to do with discrimination of women, even though some hundred millions English speakers got it totally wrong.

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    8. Re:Er... why? by Negadecimal · · Score: 2, Insightful

      They built it because every summer thousands of cars get stuck in Millau while traveling from north to south.

      Did they really need a bridge, though? Why not just build a long highway with no onramp/exit ramps. Easily the same footprint as a bridge, and without a concrete eyesore over the French countryside.

    9. Re:Er... why? by Spudley · · Score: 2, Interesting

      They built it because every summer thousands of cars get stuck in Millau while traveling from north to south.

      Which leads to the next question, which is why did they only make it two lanes wide each way? Three lanes would have allowed for an increase in traffic flows later on. As it is, I dread to think how easily the traffic could get backed up even with this new bridge. And I would *not* want to be stuck in a queue on a bridge like that! (man, I get vertigo just looking at that photograph!)

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    10. Re:Er... why? by ElGanzoLoco · · Score: 5, Informative

      IIRC, a LOT of trucks take that road every year, so building a road around Millau still solves just part of the problem: it will be a lot easier and faster for everyone to just take a straight line rather than going down in the valley, through the valley, and up again. IIRC, they claim the trips will be 1 to 2 hours shorter thanks to the bridge -that's less time on the road, therefore safer overall, less pollution etc...

      This is an entirely private project, the french govt didn't want to pay for it. That's bad for the drivers though, who will have to pay a lot of money to cross the bridge.

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    11. Re:Er... why? by ozbird · · Score: 2, Interesting

      It's eight lanes wide - two lanes between the "prongs" of the tower, three lanes on either side.

  10. Humans rule. by Elwood+P+Dowd · · Score: 2, Insightful

    (See subject.)

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  11. Man... by xenostar · · Score: 2, Funny

    ..I can just see the headlines. "World's tallest bridge collapses! Engineers: 'What were we thinking?'"

  12. Re:Highest Bridge by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny


    Get your bungie jumping ropes and take a plane to france!!!


    Just make sure you don't land at the new International Terminal. That would be dangerous

  13. Engineering Geeks? by pipingguy · · Score: 3, Funny


    Does it run Linux?

  14. Re:Timmmmmberrrr... by fluce · · Score: 5, Informative

    Well, in fact, they are the same folks... 2E airport terminal was built by Vinci and Eiffage. Millau viaduc is built by Eiffage alone.

  15. Holy Mother of ... by alphapartic1e · · Score: 2, Interesting

    What if that thing tilts? :-o

  16. Re:eccentric? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    Is there an engineering reason for it being this tall?

    Because heights are the only thing the French aren't afraid of.

  17. Funding? by PHP+Wolf · · Score: 5, Funny

    There's probably a sign before you drive onto the bridge that reads: "World's tallest bridge! World's highest toll!"

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    1. Re:Funding? by ThisIsFred · · Score: 4, Funny

      Well at least you get to see a unique engineering masterpiece for your money. Think of what you get to see for a $2 toll on the Jersey Turnpike. And what's worse when the trip is over, you're in New Jersey.

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  18. My favorite part by bobbabemagnet · · Score: 4, Insightful

    From the project site: "As a truly emblematic signature of the town whose name it carries, it will, just by its very existence, lead to economic and cultural growth."

    Is it just me, or does completely bypassing a town actually hurt its economic and cultural growth?

    1. Re:My favorite part by bobbabemagnet · · Score: 3, Informative

      The pictures may be misleading, but there aren't exactly offramps into the town. So:

      1.) There is less traffic going through the town, less of a need to stop in the town, and it is harder to stop in town.

      2.) It has never been about tourism for Millau. the town is in the way, and the bridge serves to get people from one big city to the coast, circumventing Millau.

      In a nutshell "We're Millau. We built a huge freaking bridge that goes around our city so people don't have to drive through here any more. Come visit us!"

  19. Re:Timmmmmberrrr... by carlos_benj · · Score: 2, Funny

    Let's hope that Vinci is the chintzy and fewer corners were cut on the bridge then.

    And if not, look at it this way, you have a better chance of flying off their bridge than out of their airport.....

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  20. Highest Bridge? by lpangelrob2 · · Score: 3, Informative
    Does this one not count? That one's 1,053 ft.

    Maybe it's a suspension vs. non-suspension thing.

    1. Re:Highest Bridge? by prockcore · · Score: 3, Informative

      This one is taller, from the article:

      with suspension cables added will be 343 metres (1,132 feet) above ground at its highest point

    2. Re:Highest Bridge? by Jeffrey+Baker · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I think the point is not the depth of the hole under the roadway, but the height of the piers.

  21. Is it a draw bridge? by pergamon · · Score: 4, Funny

    I mean, did they even bother to future-proof this thing so that when we reach the age of 300m high boats that it won't have to be torn down?

  22. Not the highest by xs650 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    The height of the road surface above the water or ground below is what counts, not the fru-fru above the road surface.

    This old 1929 bridge in Colorado still has the Fench bridge beat, as do a few others.

    http://www.micron.com/k12/lessonplans/bridges/ro ya l.html

  23. Royal Gorge Bridge, Canon City, CO by barista · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Having lived in Colorado, I would like to point out this bit of information. I guess it would depend on how the bridge is measured.

    Since it looks like the site is Slashdotted, I can't see all of the info. If you judge by the main span, then it looks like this new bridge may have it (886 ft compared to 880 ft). However, the Royal Gorge Bridge is 1053 ft above the Arkansas river that passes underneath it (No threat of flooding...knocks on wood).

    My guess is figuring out the world's highest bridge is something akin to figuring out the world's tallest building...different opinions yeild different results. Anyway, Royal Gorge only claims the "Wolrd's Highest Suspension Bridge".

    Yeah, I know... shoulda RTFA

  24. Highest? Royal Gorge? by betis70 · · Score: 3, Informative

    Sorry but last I checked the Royal Gorge Bridge (in Colorado, USA) is still higher. Built in 1929 too.

    1053 feet. Roughly 320.95 meters. Or 50 meters higher.

    info here

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    1. Re:Highest? Royal Gorge? by oneiron · · Score: 2, Informative

      The Royal Gorge is a suspension bridge. Suspension bridges are a completely seperate animal.

  25. Even more awesomer by blair1q · · Score: 3, Informative

    Major writeup of the project:

    http://www.a75.com/viaducengl.html

  26. BASE Jumpers Have a New Toy by geomon · · Score: 2, Interesting

    How long until the first one takes a shot at this structure?

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  27. Re:Star Wars... by carlos_benj · · Score: 4, Funny

    So now the US Navy pilots have a slalom course in Europe. Sweet!

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  28. More info on the bridge and Valley by King_Pickle · · Score: 3, Interesting
  29. Economics by Hobbex · · Score: 2, Interesting

    They are charging about $6 per car for crossing the viaduct. If enough cars are willing to pay this rather than crawling through the valley that it pays for the project (which wasn't actually that expensive, compare USD $400 million with what some bridges over water cost) then it makes economic sense to build it. What else is needed?

  30. It's quite a sight by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I've been at Milau last summer, and I must say that bridge is quite spectacular, also the way it was built. During the dozen days I was there, you could see the daily progress they made as the cranes moved and the whole bridge was pushed across the pillars little by little. Amazing bridgebuilding technology, really.

    And maybe it's not evident from the pictures, but the bridge does make some sense when you look at the landscape close-up.

    And it's really big. Standing under the pillars makes it look very, very intimidating.

  31. How do they get the ends to meet? by mveloso · · Score: 3, Interesting

    If you look at the picture, it looks as if there's a bit of a dip from where the camera is to the next span.

    Did they screw up the alignment a bit then hack it to get it to work? How do they do that anyway?

    1. Re:How do they get the ends to meet? by King_Pickle · · Score: 5, Informative

      The road will have two lanes (3.50m each) on each side and will run at about 270m above the river Tarn. The Millau Viaduct will not be straight. A straight road could induce a sensation of floating for drivers. A slight curve will remedy that. The curve will be of 20km in range. Moreover, the road will have a light hill of 3% to improve the visibility and reassure the driver. A 3m wide emergency lane will bring increased security. It will, in particular, prevent drivers from seeing the valley from the viaduct. As the bridge will be exposed to winds of up to 151km/h, side screens will reduce the effects of the wind by 50%. The speed of the wind at the level of the road will therefore reflect to speed of the wind found at ground level around Larzac and Sauveterre.

      From http://www.roadtraffic-technology.com/projects/mil lau_viaduct/

  32. Two More Words by SoSueMe · · Score: 2, Funny
  33. Re:eccentric? by lazy_arabica · · Score: 2, Insightful
    Is there an engineering reason for it being this tall? Based on the photos it would appear not.
    Hum... you mean, based on a very small photo with no topographic information, you can't find a reason for this bridge to be that tall ? :)
    Someone correct me if I'm wrong in thinking this is just the French being eccentric.
    Hugh. I'm french. And I didn't decide to build that bridge.
  34. Re:Highest? by MikeFM · · Score: 2, Interesting

    The road (bridges) through the Florida Keys is pretty impressive as far as length. It's not entirely a single span but overall it has that effect.

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  35. More pictures by rufey · · Score: 3, Informative

    You can see some more pictures of this project, along with some of the artist renderings of what the thing will look like when done, here.

  36. More information on the Millau Viaduct (Bridge) by Tandoori+Haggis · · Score: 2, Informative


    I thought this meritted a search on Ixquick Metasearch http://www.ixquick.com

    Here are my choice results on the Millau Viaduct or Bridge depending on what report you read.

    http://www.bridgepros.com/projects/Millau_Viaduc t/

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/3237329. st m

    http://www.viaducdemillaueiffage.com/
    N.B. This site is in heavy demand so by all means make a note of the URL to try another time / at a later date.

    http://www.construction.com/NewsCenter/Headlines /E NR/20040315d.asp

    http://www.enerpac.com/html/press_releases/Beric ht en/30014_ENG_EU.html

    Interesting to note that Sir Norman Foster was involved in this. For more info on his work try: http://www.greatbuildings.com/architects/Norman_Fo ster.html

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  37. Length of bridge by Barumpus · · Score: 2, Informative

    The length of this bridge is quite impressive. The longest suspension bridge on record is the Dames Point (Napoleon Bonaparte Broward Bridge)in Jacksonville Florida that is about 2 miles long. It's span consisting of cables is only about 1/3 of the overall length (not sure how the whole bridge is considered suspension). This one apeears to be roughly 60% of the length of the Dames Point but is suspended cables the whole length. Seeing the Dames Point on a quite regular basis, I must say that one is very impressive.

    Just for height comparisons, the Dames Point is about 425 feet (130m) high with the highest point over water being 175 feet (about 54m). Quite an accomplishment considering what it took to build this little thing.

  38. Check out bridge day by The+Tyro · · Score: 4, Interesting

    at the New River Gorge bridge in West Virginia, USA. It's legal to jump off that bridge exactly one day per year (known, appropriately enough, as bridge day). It's not a bad way to introduce yourself to base jumping legally... jail time sucks.

    Incidently, it's only ten feet shorter than the bridge mentioned in the article (but has a much smaller landing area... people jumping the New River Gorge bridge should have good canopy control skills... it might be tough for a rookie parachutist). The only more-difficult famous base jump landing I know of is Angel Falls... there's a tiny clearing in the jungle you have to hit, or you're in the trees.

    I got invited to do my first base jump when I was a low-time skydiver (only had 13 jumps under my belt) it involved breaking-and-entering, climbing an antenna at night, jumping from said antenna, and avoiding the guy wires... needless to say, I declined. I like adrenaline as much as the next guy, but there's something to be said for living to jump another day...

    Jump smart... you'll live longer.

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    1. Re:Check out bridge day by That's+Unpossible! · · Score: 3, Funny

      Jump smart... you'll live longer.

      Don't jump.

      You'll live even longer.

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  39. In future news... by leondrb · · Score: 2, Funny

    A spectacular crash has just accured on the newly opened Millau bridge. Witnesses report that a small car collided with a truck causing the car to flip over the side rail. The driver of the car was seen climbing out of the falling car...

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  40. read for comprehension? by way2trivial · · Score: 2, Interesting
    I specified, island to island.., I knew that. yet, people do want to connect russia and alaska, and the islands do figure in to the plans. and looky here

    The intensity of use of this railroad corridor, and its effect on overall economic productivity of North American and Eurasian nations, changes entirely when it crosses the Bering Strait--as is now definitely technologically feasible by tunnel (Figure 2), using the two islands, (Little Diomede and Big Diomede) which lie along the Strait crossing in order to break up its total length. The long-awaited Alaska-Canada railroad corridor then becomes an extension of the northern Eurasian Land-Bridge--involving the Trans-Siberian and Baikal-Amur lines, and the Chinese northern rail line construction extending to them--and part of the "world land-bridge."

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  41. Delicate? by InfiniteWisdom · · Score: 2, Informative

    From here:
    The bridge has the optimum span between cable-stayed columns. It is delicate, transparent, and uses the minimum material, which makes it less costly to construct.

    Why does this talk of "delicate" bridges not have me rushing to cross it? I realise there's more than one definition of the word delicate, but still.

  42. /. strikes agin by cstream_chris · · Score: 2, Funny

    Warning: mysql_connect(): Too many connections in /home/millau/public_html/pnadodb/drivers/adodb-mys ql.inc.php on line 170 mysql://millau1_us:@localhost/millau1_db failed to connectToo many connections Better post this as funny :)

  43. Re:Biggest/Tallest/Most/Best Terror Targets by fiannaFailMan · · Score: 4, Insightful
    Are we looking at yet another awe inspiring structure to be on a terrorists list of possible targets?
    Quite right. Let's stop building bridges, tall buildings (the Pentagon wasn't tall, but hey) and other big things that might be hit by terrorists. In fact let's just stay indoors, lock the door and don't move.
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  44. Re:Geronimoooooo! by eu4ik · · Score: 2, Informative

    The Fremont bridge in Portland is not a suspension bridge, but rather "the longest tied-arch bridge in the world"

  45. And the sign in the middle warns... by emcdermid · · Score: 2, Funny

    "No Fishing From Bridge"

    (seriously!)

  46. Re:Biggest/Tallest/Most/Best Terror Targets by dumdeedum · · Score: 4, Funny
    In fact let's just stay indoors, lock the door and don't move.
    Your rhetoric has no power on Slashdot.
  47. Re:why did they build it this way? by debest · · Score: 3, Informative

    It may be a flat valley, but the drop-offs into the valley are quite steep.

    Thanks to another poster above, check out this page, particularly the photo right at the bottom. You can see how difficult it would be to get an expressway down into the valley and then back up. The page also shows the various options considered, as well as the reasons for accepting the tall viaduct.

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  48. As bad as the Huey P. Long? by localroger · · Score: 3, Interesting
    The Huey P. Long bridge over the Mississippi River just north of New Orleans is actually a railroad bridge. As an afterthought, the architects added vehicular lanes which are bolted on to the superstructure to either side of the actual train lane. Originally in the 1930's these vehicular lanes were single-lane with a generous clearance and sidewalk for pedestrians.

    Since long before I was born they have been two ten-foot-wide lanes and pedestrians are not allowed on the bridge because of the danger. Neither are trucks allowed to pass one another because there isn't enough clearance.

    The nominal height of this bridge is 130 feet above the river, give or take. It's not nearly as high as the A75 but we get our share of suicide jumpers both off it and the newer, swankier, and busier Greater New Orleans Mississippi River Bridge a few miles to the south (or, as it was renamed after a contest in the 80's, the "Crescent City [not drug] Connection").

    You do not get the full thrill of the Huey Long unless you're on it when a TRAIN is also on it. And you really don't get the full thrill unless you are STOPPED IN TRAFFIC while a TRAIN is passing. You see, the H.P.Long is entirely riveted together. There isn't a weld to be found in the entire structure. This means it moves -- a lot. You normally can't tell in a moving vehicle, but people have been known to get seasick in stalled traffic. Especially when a train is passing.

    I'm sure the A75 will be no picnic in bad weather, but being that high in bad weather you probably won't even be able to see the ground. What I wonder about is how much the thing will move around with only seven supports and all that wind-catching area.

    Being stopped on traffic might be a lot more fun than just having your car slapped around by a gale.

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  49. Re:Vista? by gaijin99 · · Score: 2, Informative
    I was asking myself the same question. Then I looked at this page (linked by werdnapk in another thread here) and the reason suddenly became apparent. The first photo (Flash just to keep up the use of pointless Flash), answered around 80% of my "why the heck do this" question.

    According to the English articles due to the steep sides of the valley cause massive traffic bottlenecks. Though if I'd owned a convenience store or gas station that was profiting from the bottlenecks I'd be irked ^_^

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  50. That bridge is impressive and all... by eRacer1 · · Score: 2, Funny

    ...but they missed the perfect opportunity to build the "world's tallest cloverleaf interchange".