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ICANN Budget Questioned
Thing I am writes "The proposed 2004-5 budget for the Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) has hit a snag - the rest of the world is refusing to pay its share of the bill. ICANN last week proposed a budget of $15.8m for next year, nearly twice as much as its current annual expenditure."
The internet will be shut down until further notice.
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$16 million is nothing. Chump change. My state has bigger budgets for smaller institutions. This is the global internet we're talking about here. People are cheapskates.
Not Budget. Someone needs to cut back on using jets and charging it to the organizations account.
From the article: "ICANN is relying on the fact that Europe's Internet registries (although CENTR, despite its name, represents far more than just European interests) will want to have ICANN in charge more than they will want an international body controlled by governments (the ITU)"
I'm not getting something. Why would a (I presume) for-profit corporation like ICANN be preferable to a system controlled by governments? Honest question, I'm really curious. What does ICANN offer that this ITU doesn't?
Yup...
I wonder how much of this has gone to lawyers who are defending them from the idiots over at Verisign?
It's better than what the UN would charge for this (I shudder to think)
Considering they only need $1 million to do their core duties, I'd be asking for a fairly detailed itemized bill before I fork over twice as much as last year with no increase in operating costs.
"Enough of this wretched, whining monkey life." -- Marcus Aurelius, _Meditations_, Book 9, 37
as long as Christmas Island coughs up its share of the bill
Peace
....the Internet is auctioned off to the highest bidder. Microsoft goes broke trying to out-bid McDonalds for control of the Internet....
Hey, evil isn't cheap.
Could ICANN be committing suicide the way XFree86 did?
!= that I should.
Sometimes boldness is in fashion. Sometimes only the brave will be bold.
Two points here. 1. It appears given this letter/slapdown that ICANN now stands for ICANT-because-of-no-money
2. "The Register" has forgotten its political correctness by referring to this problem as a "Mexican stand-off". Wow, the Mexican ambassador is going to be flaming them something fierce :P
Harpo Tunnel Syndrome--my wrist feels funny.
ICANN doesn't run the DNS servers -- it's just reponsible for policy, assigning numbers and address ranges to avoid conflict, etc.
I would guess that the costs go to pay for engineers who know what they're talking about.
Of course, the ICANN meeting locations look like the typical VP-wants-to-tour-the-world-on-the-company-dollar deal.
However, in general, while ICANN isn't perfect, I'd have to say that they're a lot more The Good Guys than, say, certain other folks...and their entire yearly budget is probably less than what certain other folks (*cough* Verisign) pick up through misleading or netabuse-encouraging sales in a week.
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it is quite confusing for me (so someone can clarify here) that there are overlapping functions. imho, maybe a tree structure may work with representatives from each region (ripe, lacnic, arin, apnic, afrinic) then all under one reporting body?
Live your life each day as if it was your last.
Scientist announced today that Europa, one of the larger moons of Jupiter, harbors intelligent life. ICANN immediately responded to this by insisting that the Europans chip in to help pay for the internet.
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Without us Sumerians, you wouldn't have writing! You hereby owe us 699.99 dinars per character ... no, wait, wrong joke ... umm... Soviet Russia ... no ... tinfoil hat ... forget it.
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Your beloved governmental agency is growing faster than any liberal could have predicted!
Enjoy! Maybe Michael Moore can raise some money for them.
Why not the UN? Do you have a major problem with the way that telephone numbers or satelite orbitals are allocated?
The UN already decides whether a 'country' TLD should be created. The RFC deliberately ceedes that decision to the ISO country code committee. That is how Palestine has a country code.
Very little would change if ICANN disappeared entirely. The IANA function is the sort of thing that could and should have been done using a database with a web interface. There really is not that much to assigning code points. OSI and Web services both have much better schemes (OIDs, URIs).
The country codes would be managed in pretty much the same way as they are today by the same people. There would be no new non country TLDs but none of the new ones have been remotely successful. The holdup on services like the domain name waitlist would end but that will happen anyway.
About all that would change is that the ICANN staff would not get paid and the farce of the ICANN conferences in obscure parts of the world would end.
About the only thing that would change is that as an international treaty organization the ITU could not be sued.
ICANN does actually have a point about the root servers. Only four of them survived the DDoS attack. Of the nine that went under some were pretty respectable. Others are worse than useless. The Internet depends on these servers, there is no excuse not to operate them at telco level reliability.
The ITU is going to absorb ICANN in the end. It is just a matter of time.
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They're all like that. The last four were in Rio, Montreal, Carthage, and Rome.
"Europe sticks up two fingers at ICANN budget", while over here in the States, we can do the same job with only one.
...Move aside and let your betters take over :D You only 'grew out' of the weenie size measuring race when you realized you had no hope..har har
Besides, it ain't just the protocols...it was the original and still major location of infrastructure.
Blar.
From ICANN to ICAN'T
-dodges the incoming flames-
It's early..
"We're breaking out the ramen noodles. . . "
"Really? Is it someone's birthday?"
Let me see, everyone runs their own DNS servers, so no overhead there.
DNS servers contain all the data needed.
These people are just the central place to "register" your name = IP.
Once registered, it costs them nothing except a SLOW internet connection ($100 a month?) and some electricity. (they need no speed because once the data is out on all the DNS servers they handle the bandwidth)
So why can some broke dude do this in his low class apartment?
Do you people always make something so simple turn into a major government type operation where you need more and more and more all the time?
Car registration is the same thing, just a database, what are you doing about cutting that government cost?
...Did they even budget for bandwidth costs due to slashdotting icann.org?
May be it is not too much. But if you are spending much more than is needed t is a waste of money. Moreover. If yo want to control and impose conditions and at the same time make other people pay more than is needed it is a bad thing for everybody. Monopolies tends to make services unsussually expensive. And goverments begin with 16$ millions here, 20 millions theres... and never stop wasting... so there is US deficit.
I think not. Your colonies, including the US, kicked your asses out. You didn't grow out of anything, you got beat down.
For those of you that don't know how ICANN operates, here is a transcript of one of their meetings. It's really eye opening.
That's not the UN's doing, rather that of the people working for them. Soldiers aren't exactly considered the most decent people, either.
Please correct me if I got my facts wrong.
Give the job back to Jon Postel.
Improve efficiency immeasurably.
ICANN is not officially a government agency. It's been recognized by congress, but officially it's not a government agency. This means that the checks that used to normally apply to government agencies aren't applied to ICANN.
... strange. ICANN *used* to be a private company. It used to be a non-profit organization operating under a set of by-laws that provided for periodic elections. A board got in that refused to hold new elections. Then they, in violation of their own by-laws, modified the by-laws so that they weren't obligated to hold elections. At about this same time they were recognized by the US govt as the officially approved body for allocating IP ranges (up until then it was a non-governmental agreement).
OTOH, since ICANN is recognized by the US govt., and the US has delegated certain of it's powers to it, calling it a private company is a bit
I think we've pushed this "anyone can grow up to be president" thing too far.
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Can I get an eye poke?
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To say the US were brought in due to faulty intelligence isn't even true...if only. In fact, the only theory that fits all the facts is that our selected-not-quite-elected leaders took us into Iraq out of blinded junkie-lust for oil....
Unless you don't mean 'intelligence' as information...
You would think the rulers of the internet would hold their meetings online to show how smart and efficient they are. Netmeeting anyone?
Perhaps ICANN should start acquring money on the internet through other means, pr0n seems to be pretty successful to me and seems a logical step. It is after all why the internet is around. Perhaps enforce some sort of pr0n levy?