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TechTV.com RIP

SlashdotOgre writes "It has finally happened, www.techtv.com is no more. This was somewhat expected after Comcast decided to give the ax. This is a bit of a shame; as many users know, the site was an excellent resource for both product reviews and software. Most noteably, the Call for Help section has disappeared and The Screen Savers only has recent episodes in the Episode History section. If Comcast does own the rights to older material, I do hope they decide to post some of it (but I doubt that will be enough to ge me to watch their "new" network)."

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  1. TechTV isn't gone. by Judg3 · · Score: 5, Informative

    It's merged with the G4 network and is now G4TechTV.

    Just as well to, as I get G4 on my current digital package, but TechTV was up on a higher tier. To get it, I'd have to get out of my current promotion and reassemble into a new package with the techtv tier - taking a normally $6.95/mo tier up to almost 40$ - since I'd lose the savings I was currently getting!

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    1. Re:TechTV isn't gone. by MagicDude · · Score: 4, Funny

      Tuning into tech TV these days is met with a blue screen with white text reading "An error has occured on channel 87. If this error continues to occur, please contact your local comcast representative. Change the channel to continue." Turning the TV on and off seems to have no effect on the problem.

  2. Archive.org by BodyCount07 · · Score: 5, Informative

    Archive.org has some archives of the old site. Much of the old data can be found there.

    1. Re:Archive.org by zoeblade · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Archive.org also has episodes of another computer show, Computer Chronicles. It's much older (mainly eighties episodes), but they don't do things by halves: for the online database episode they interview people from Q-Link (later renamed AOL) and Compuserve, and in their music episode they interview John Chowning, who invented FM synthesis.

  3. I'm trying to... by ericdano · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I'm trying to shed a tear but.........I can't. I thought their reviews to be lack luster, and the "reporting" to be subpar. They were, at their best, like Slashdot on a very bad day.

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    1. Re:I'm trying to... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

      They were, at their best, like Slashdot on a very bad day./i

      I never head Leo Laporte say "Propz to GNAA!"

    2. Re:I'm trying to... by MightyPez · · Score: 5, Interesting

      The reporting got me the most. Ugh, it was shameful.

      I recall when the nVidia clip planes in 3dmark03 were discovered, it hit most of the major news sites. When TechTV (via The Screen Savers) read the Inquirer article about it, they showed the clip planes and said it was ATI cheating.

  4. I told you so by LinuxWhore · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I saw this coming. I real shame too. I really liked TechTV. Now that I've moved, I can't get TechTV OR G4. The cable company didn't carry either network.

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  5. Archive will be up soon? by davidj0228 · · Score: 4, Informative

    "Where's the Archive? The past three months are available now. The entire archive is coming soon! " on the site... guess all that good info will be back soon?

  6. ZDTV by simontek2 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Yes ZDTV/TechTV will be missed. It was nice having a geek network. So Who wants to start a new network?

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    1. Re:ZDTV by mrtrumbe · · Score: 4, Insightful
      It is a very low ratings, low viewership channel that could not survive on it's own... they knew it when they sold to Comcast.

      Bullroar. Absolute nonsense.

      When did ZDTV come out? Let's see, it was probably 1998-1999, if I remember correctly. That's about 6 years on the air. During that time, they went from having very few advertisers, to having many (as some other posts here have actually lamented). They went from a few original programs to more than a few.

      Basically, they could survive on their own. Sure, not the same way Comedy Central or TNT survives, but they had been around for quite some time and had been steadily improving the whole time. No telethons our pleading for cash necessary. They WERE surviving before this move, they just weren't a cash cow.

      And why would ANYONE rejoice in Comcast picking this channel up to make it another cookie-cutter crappy cable TV network? Sure, it might become marginally more profitable, but we already have 150+ cable channels offering the same crap. YOU might not have liked TechTV, but it was unique. It was geeky, too, and that helped make it fun. What can we expect now instead of that "by geeks (even if you didn't like them), for geeks" feeling? Maybe all weekend movie marathons? Infomercials during non-peak hours? Stupid shitty gameshows? Maybe they can find a way to incorporate reality TV with a geek channel?

      I had Comcast cable for over a year. They like to split channels. You know, Court TV from 3:00 AM to 5:00 PM, Comedy Central from 5:00 PM to 3:00 AM eveyday of the week. They show no signs of changing this fucking insanely stupid policy, even in the face of Direct TV which, *gasp*, allows you to get FULL TV channels 24 hours a day.

      Somehow I don't hold high hopes of Comcast making this a channel I'd like to watch. Call me cynical, I guess...Or maybe I just learn from my bad choices in corporate content providers.

      Taft

  7. I've Been watching... by drayzel · · Score: 5, Informative

    The new G4TechTv on Dish. So far everything I have seen that has come over from G4 is really lame. I'm not saying that everything on TechTv was awesome, but the quality of the shows I've seen from G4 is not very good. Has anyone seen PLayers? Yikes, I really do NOT want to watch uninsteresting people play video games. Am I missing any G4 shows that are worth my time to watch at all? As it is I'd rather watch and laugh at 'The Big JOe Polka Fest' on one of the crazy community access channels... it's like a bad accident-- nobody wants to see it, but everybody looks.

    ~Z

    1. Re:I've Been watching... by ne0nex · · Score: 5, Interesting
      I don't think it's that bad actually.

      I've been watching TechTV for years on Dish network now, and I don't think that the G4 merger is that bad for several reasons:

      • The Screensavers was not the same without Leo hosting it, and I also enjoyed with Megan, Morgan, and Jessica were all on TSS. For me, the show hasn't been the same since then.

      • Call for help hasn't been the same post-chris perillo.

      • TechTV was still on a relatively short programming loop. I recall watching a rerun episode of TSS and seeing it again that same day before the new one aired! It would always work the same way: TSS, TechLive, Freshgear X-Play, rinse, repeat. That and did anyone else notice the ultra-long blocks of Robot Wars? Frequently would I turn to Channel 191 (dish) only to go "oh look.. robot wars again... oh, look, already saw this one..."

      • Not all of the G4 shows are crap, I for one like ICONS and ARENA, did anyone else dig the ICONS show on Final Fantasy? They actually talked about FF3 (FF6 US)! I also really like all of their E3 Coverage.

      That's not to say that everything that G4 has brought to the table is pure gold. I for one don't like the people on the show: G4TV.com and believe that it's the show that inspired this.

      For all it's worth, I think that the merger has expanded the tediously short programming schedule. I for one enjoy watching less repeat episodes of Robot Wars.

      Just my 2.18997 Japanese Yen

  8. Old episodes... by antdude · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Does anyone know if TechTV will still be letting users watch old episodes online or by request (e.g., copy of the episode). I am particular looking for video segment on The Ant Farm case mod (invalid link now) online or on tape/whatever media. I did e-mail TechTV staff a few months ago after this mod story was posted on /., but never received a response. I doubt I will get one after sending another request today. Anyone got this segment in their TechTV collection? ;)

    I managed to savage the Web pages and thumbnails from Google Caches. Archive.org didn't have this Web story when I tried the original URL. :(

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  9. The entire archive is "coming soon" by kavachameleon · · Score: 5, Informative
    If the poster had bothered to read the new site, they would have seen under the "what the tech?" box the following: "The past three months are available now. The entire archive is coming soon!".

    This seems fairly self-explanatory to me...

  10. What I don't understand... by Vthornheart · · Score: 5, Insightful
    Why did they keep mostly G4? Am I the only one who believes that TechTV was several orders of magnitude in higher quality than G4? I mean, to me it wasn't even a contest! G4 looked like it was being run out of some 70's revivalist's basement!

    It had the ugliest sets, hosts that were more or less inept, and the same boring content played over and over. TechTV always had new content, their sets were professional and made you actually want to watch (as opposed to giving you the feeling that you should be going to a Disco), and their hosts were competent technical experts.

    Which brings us to the final question. What sort of drugs were they ON?!?

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    1. Re:What I don't understand... by realinvalidname · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Why did they keep mostly G4? Am I the only one who believes that TechTV was several orders of magnitude in higher quality than G4? I mean, to me it wasn't even a contest! G4 looked like it was being run out of some 70's revivalist's basement!

      It may have been several orders of magnitude "better", but the Comcast-backed G4 seems to have had several orders of magnitude "more money". Surely many noticed TechTV's bi-monthly appearances on FC. And since it was G4 that acquired TechTV, they win, which is why you see all production moving to Los Angeles (yeah, that hotbed of technology), TechTV shows and personalities (and surely staffers, if any were kept) getting demoted, etc. (life-lesson I've learned twice: when your company is bought out, always leave immediately)

      Are they too vain to understand that their shows suck? Doesn't matter, as long as they have money and are willing to cut more checks.

      Prediction: the awkward "G4TechTV" name is only a short-term ploy to try to lure the few TechTV viewers. In a year, it'll just be "G4" again, with few if any of the TechTV shows (e.g., they might keep "Anime Unleashed" only so long as they have broadcast rights to the various shows... I'd be very surprised if they renewed them, unless they did the really stupid thing and got the rights to anime based on video games, most of which are awful).

      Understanding the fact that any remotely intelligent video game player would rather play games than watch bad shows about games is left to the reader.

      --realinvalidname

  11. They really messed up. by BrookHarty · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I really hate that G4 merged with TechTV. I tivo ScreenSavers, TechLive(g4 canceled) and Martin unscrewed. Xlive is fun to watch if its a game I want to buy. Great channel for geek news.

    The website tv ep history is gone, its an ugly POS. Shame.

    Wonder what g4techtv will become, because if it goes mainstream its going to suck.

  12. Advertisers took over by Urgo · · Score: 5, Informative

    It is really sad to see this day finally come. I haven't watched techtv much recently but I was a loyal fan of ZDTV back in the day when the network first launched.

    In addition to the computer related programming, I really liked having one channel where you didn't see the same old crap being advertised. They had mostly technology commercials and weird little artsy zdtv "amaze yourself" ones. Then they actually let users make their own little "we'll be back after the break" clips via webcam..... Its been mostly downhill since the big advertisers stepped in and redirected the network.... too bad.

    I've only tuned into the channel once since the takeover occurred and was annoyed how their logo G4TechTV was now at the top of the screen, large, colorful, and covering up the computer screens that they were displaying.

    Oh well. I still have my "ZDTV Dot Coms not Sit Coms" bumper sticker.. Good luck fired techtv employees.

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  13. Open Source Developers....Network by Niscenus · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Think about it for a second...it's just begging for a change in meaning.

    Programming would almost certainly be sparse for a while:

    SlashDot
    - On the Hour and Twice a Day,
    - News for the nerdy crowd
    ThinkGeek
    - Half an Hour of the Coolest Shopping,
    - And whatever else they scrape up.
    Forge & Savannah
    - What released this very day??
    - What might be the coolest thing today?
    Open Magazine
    - Let's bring it back with full force.
    - Or combine with the half-dozen LinMags
    Open Testing
    - True Benchmarks
    - Performed Live!
    Security Watch
    - The most important show
    - Most likely to expand into a spinoff
    Gamer's Dungeon
    - And for the less geeky...
    - Or is the extremely geeky?
    FX Designs of...
    - Most /. users would watch this.
    - Most people would watch this!
    UberGeek Interview
    - If you stretch the meaning...
    - You could get 100 different people!
    DevTraffick
    - What's new in Gnome? Kde?
    - How about non-nix projects?
    Hardware Hackers
    - Now, finally, a COOL show
    - Yup...finally....
    DistroWatch
    - So many distros
    - Too much time....
    TrendWare
    - What colour blackberry is hot?
    - How out of date is your new system?

    And finally...Dilbert, Futurama, Lexx, Farscape, Stargate, Star Trek, and whatever else geeks would watch....

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  14. G4 and Comcast screwed the TTV Cast - hard by binaryspiral · · Score: 5, Interesting

    They fired the entire S.F. studio - and gave only a select few the option of moving to the G4TV studios in L.A. Also the firestorm of hatemail, online petitions, and angery forum posts for Leo Laporte and Call for Help's demise I think really got G4 thinking "WTF do we do now?" So they negotiated a few 90 second clips with Leo to be aired durring The Screen Savers. His face is on their homepage, twice. And they're looking at selling his show to another network. Damn you Comcast and G4... now I have to answer even MORE noobish questions.

  15. Also affecting TechTV Canada by Viking5150 · · Score: 4, Informative

    This will also affect TechTV Canada, as stated on their website:

    Toronto, On (May 13, 2004) - Recently TechTV in the United States changed names to G4techTV. This was as a result of the Comcast Corporation becoming the new owner of the channel thru G4 Media inc.

    G4techTV will be the new name for the Canadian digital channel TechTV Canada. It will combine popular programming from both technology lifestyle channels, G4 and TechTV. As part of the deal, G4 Media inc. assumes one third ownership of TechTV in Canada.

    Rogers Media, based in Toronto, will continue to operate the channel as managing partner and G4techTV will continue to be available on digital cable and satellite in Canada


    The full press release can be seen here, and the FAQ for the Canadian merger can be found here.

  16. stupid comcast by challahc · · Score: 3, Informative

    Last I heard, comcast in my area doesn't show techtv. Not even on digital cable. I've been watching it on cband satellite for a long time, since it was zdtv. Anyways, I don't think comcast likes to do what the customers want. So for those of you hoping for archives of the old techtv.com, good luck.

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  17. This rsponse... by zeruch · · Score: 4, Funny

    ...has little to do with being rational.

    I hope Satan uses the skulls of the entire Concast e-staff as commodes.

  18. The new network. by Raven42rac · · Score: 3, Informative

    I have had the opportunity to watch the new network, and I am not sure if I like it. Many of the shows show potential, but are just plain boring in practice. I don't want to watch a bunch of geeks deathmatch on Arena. I did like the E3 coverage with Dane Cook, he is just a really funny comic though, I am not sure anyone else could have carried that segment. I am miffed that they kept Thunderbirds from TechTV, I don't know about any of you guys, but I think that show sucks bigtime. I do hope they keep Wil Wheaton, I was getting into his subtle ribbing of the callers on Call For Help. Comcast is making a huge mistake, IMHO, why fix something that is not broken? If they can get rid of all of the "robots battling each other" shows, I will be at least slightly happy. I will give the network a chance though, granted they keep Leo.

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  19. Favorite tech tv memory by Sinful_Shirts · · Score: 5, Interesting

    My favorite tech tv memory was that guy who fumbled and broke that priceless phonograph recording thing. That was great. http://www.ebaumsworld.com/techtvblooper.html

  20. Leo Laporte by OneFix · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Leo was probably one of the most tech savy folks on TechTV. He also seems to be the only regular that really embraced Linux...

    For those that don't know, there's been a lot of discussion about the cancelation of CFH on Leo Laporte's forums. Here's the link to Leo's Comments.

    Basically, Leo is still doing his 90 second segments on TSS, but he is working on some new projects...one of these will be Leoville.TV...he says that he is going to be getting some of the old TechTV folks to work with him. He also says that there are offers coming in from other channels, but he probably won't be back on TV on a regular basis until some time in the Fall.

    Until then, there's always his radio show on KFI...

  21. The problem with G4... by OneFix · · Score: 3, Interesting

    The problem with an all games network is that there's just not enough that happens in a given day to fill up 6 or 7 full time shows.

    What you get are about 5 "review" shows with pretty much the same content...a couple "lets watch people play games" shows and some "filler" (Anime Unleashed and Thunderbirds...while I don't mind either, neither has a place on a tech oriented channel..I know these came from TechTV, but noone's perfect)...

    X-Play was ok, but it seems that ComCast is just sucking the soul out of what was TechTV...

    Most of the shows on the new channel just feel like a badly done public access show. These people obviously don't know anything about the technology and I've caught more than a few of them with the "deer in headlights" look...Don't get me wrong, TechTV had its share of "Pretty Boys", but there seemed to be an attempt at putting someone who was "dumb" with someone that knew their stuff (Leo and Cat on CFH for instance)...

    Of course I think Comcast would be best to look at why Leo Laporte was such a good host...he had radio experience and knew when guests were getting "boring" and would change the direction toward a more interesting subject...

  22. Bittorrent by TheLoneCabbage · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Wouldn't something like this do MUCH better on a pay-for download basis? Shows like this are NOT expensive to produce, and using bittorrent as a distribution model (those who leach pay more) would make it more efficient to distribute.

    Especialy since it's a tech oriented show.

  23. Goodbye who? by Teahouse · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I wonder why the current format wasn't setting the world on fire...hmmmmmm..lets look at it.

    Screen-Savers 8 hours a day.

    The LAME Robot Wars 2 hours a day.

    Other non-original progamming that had very little to do with real "tech".

    These guys coasted for a year on nothing interesting. I switched on the channel twice in the last 6 months. Once, they were building a mod case out of an Army ammo can (uh...couldn't afford a REAL case?) The other time, they were reviewing music players (for the 13th time).
    Hopefully, Comcast will actually keep it as "Tech"TV and then actually develop a few good series out of that instead of just rehashing the same 8 topics and the same 4 programs for the next 2 years. I liked the CONCEPT of TechTV, but I hated the REALITY of TechTV. Buh0Bye. Perhaps something good will come out of this (like a series where geek contestants test their knowledge of C++ for fabulous prizes, or they do a real, cooperative Gillagan's Island. They strand 7 geeks, and tell them there are hidden resources on the island they can use together to make things (radios, solar cells, etc) Anything would be better than watching those two middle-aged dorks cruise t the set in their mustang anymore. I was embarasesed for them.

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  24. awwww fuck by bl8n8r · · Score: 3, Interesting

    No more Leo...That's too bad. It was a good show - had something for everyone if you waited long enough. They didn't leave out the Mac or Linux crowd (even think I remember them talking *BSD a few times) and weren't just a bunch of Windows Power Users filling a time slot. All good things come to and end I guess.

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  25. G4TechTV by GE32 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I have been watching G4TechTV over the weekend, (while working on exams) and thus far I have seen just about every show on G4TechTV, (or part of it) One word...Crap..Crap (all right two) the sets all seem to be from the seventies and are all brightely colored...(Filter I'm thinking of you) They need to have a disclamer before the show.."Sets best viewed stoned" (not that I support that kind of thing) also every single G4 show seems to have stayed (not sure if they cut any) I mean atleast cut the crap..like Pulse (hour long weekely game show where they jump from topic to topic sometimes in under 15 seconds) The only good thing I've seen was that behind the scenes of the new Riddick game, which has me looking into it and I might buy it (once I get an X-Play review :D)

    All the reporters on G4 are all in there 20s and have almost no experience..they talk WAY too fast, I can talk fast, but I have a hard time understanding them sometimes...

    Notice how it is G4TechTV...and not TechTVG4...they merged TechTV into G4 and what they should have done..was merged G4 into TechTV..(drop Thunderbirds, robot wars...) except I do not see any content that G4 has that should even have anything to deal with TechTV.

  26. In-fighting on set by Himring · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I once watched Leo Laporte explain Quake internet/multiplayer play as if it were Doom multiplayer. He said, "the entire server can only run as fast as the player with the slowest connection." And went on in an elaborate description of all online, internet games as if they were built on Doom multiplayer. I changed the channel.

    For the most part though, I did enjoy the reviews and tech tips, and picked up lots of info on technology from TSS.

    More than anything, I enjoyed watching the blaring interpersonal battles that the hosts shamelessly let slip on to camera day after day. Sometimes, the hosts obviously battled with producers as they were being reprimanded via their ear pieces, and Leo one time even bucked that (cuz I guess he was high and mighty). Watching Dvorack and Laporte go at it was fun too until Dvorack got axed.

    It's too bad we can't watch the /. crew hate each other....

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