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NYT: Making Free Wireless Wi-Fi Internet Pay

securitas writes "The New York Times' Matt Richtel writes about the the challenges of finding a sustainable business model for 802.11 Wi-Fi wireless Internet. The problem for entrepreneurs, telecom companies and others is that the proliferation of free wireless access hotspots at the municipal and grassroots level has obviated commercial carriers' revenue and profit models in many cases. One user quoted in the story sums up the attitude of many wireless users: 'The Internet is free here.... Why would I pay?' IHT, published by the New York Times in Paris, is carrying an abbreviated version of the story."

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  1. why people will pay by mandalayx · · Score: 5, Informative

    Many reasons. For example, a whole lot of information is free, but many people pay for information.

    *Reliability - Someone guarantees that it's going to be there for you.
    *Convenience - More hot spots. Less time configuring. Paid services are often suited towards the mainstream user--one who might be scared of the prospect of finding hotspots.
    *Speed - Don't these free hotspots get bogged down and/or are throttled?
    *Security - I actually don't know a single thing about this, someone please help me out on this one.

    Obviously you're not going to get everyone to pay, but that's okay. Not only are there those who don't mind paying, remember that there are plenty of places still left with non free WiFi. (I'm talking about people who intentionally leave their AP open)

    Just because something is free doesn't mean that it's bad. The failing businesses just didn't do their homework on the market. I was disapointed, though, to see a leading pay WiFi provider spread this piece of FUD:

    Mr. Sims said he is not worried about the growth in free hot spots because he believes commercial networks can offer more reliable, more secure Internet access. Free service is fine for casual and periodic use, he said, but "when you absolutely, positively have to get that report downloaded or get access to your company system to conduct business, free probably isn't going to cut it."

    Even if that statement is completely false, it will probably hit a chord in that Reliability bullet point above for the "mainstream" user.

    I'm not sure that this is a "Tech" story as much as a Business story. The article's basic thesis is that the opportunity for pay WiFi businesses is getting dimmer. That's a message to short the stock of some of these guys or to not go and do my own version of T-Mobile Hotspot.

    I think there are some (smaller) opportunities left, though, so I'm interested to hear what kind of niche businesses slashdot readers are profiting from. Final quote, which predicts the commodititization of WiFi:

    While Wi-Fi "offers a revenue generating opportunity," he said, "it's real benefit to SBC is as a customer retention and acquisition tool."

    Sounds quite a bit like what that Sun guy said about hardware last week.

    1. Re:why people will pay by tronicum · · Score: 5, Insightful
      A good idea is to split it up :

      • a free internet with proxy, maybe bandwith limitation and no security
      • a pay as you go option with no limits and security
      • a montly billed agrement for people who are using it on a long time basis

      The problem in the future might be that there is limited capacity for the wifi spectrum on the one hand and that for short time usage (at least within Europe) UMTS beomces affordable...

    2. Re:why people will pay by JiffyJeff · · Score: 5, Insightful

      This *IS* a business problem... I agree!

      I travel by air frequently and would love to hop onto the hotspots that are available within terminals, however the rates are just too high! The time I spend while waiting to board is limited to 2 hours or less usually -- why would I want to pay $20 for a day-long "pass" at this location? Seriously, all I need to do is check my email and maybe hit slashdot. (And no, I don't want to do it on my phone)

      If these guys got a clue, they would realize that everyone of us "out there" realizes that this is essentially a "free" service. Short of of the hardware infrastructure and the collection of my billing info -- how much cost is really being incurred by my login?

      Don't most porn pages offer a limited subscription for less than $10? Can it be any more difficult than this for Wireless operators? After all, there's probably a lot less data transfer involved.

    3. Re:why people will pay by mandalayx · · Score: 4, Insightful

      There are actually a few airports that do free wireless. Do a quick search and you'll find them. Since we both agree that this is a business problem, let's look at your particular business case. Is free Wifi a good enough incentive for you to switch airports?

      Probably not. Which is why I don't think you'll see Free Wifi at every airport.

      You hit the nail on the head when you said that Wifi, relative to many other costs of an airport, is nearly free. But profit-seeking businesses look to charge what the market demands, regardless of how much it costs to meet that demand.

      We've seen prices below cost from Microsoft and prices wayyy above cost for...say...porn.

    4. Re:why people will pay by mandalayx · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I agree completely.

      And I think the arguments you cited are the reason why we won't see Free Wifi at most airports.

      I think many secondary and minor airports will do it, though. (i.e. Long Beach, which is a minor airport near LAX)

      What I am looking forward to is Free Wifi on the airplane. the technology is there.

    5. Re:why people will pay by femto · · Score: 3, Informative

      *Reliability - The ISM band (2.4Hz and 5GHz) is shared spectrum. By it's nature one cannot provide a gurantee of service.

      *Convenience - Maybe, but with so many comrecial providers, one probably has to reconfigure anyway.

      *Speed - All 802.11 access point share spectrum, so if a free hotspot is bogged, so are the commercial ones.

      *Security - Most of the free hotspot providers are knowledgeable hobbyists, who know more about wireless security than many so called experts.

      The basic problem for commercial hotspot providers is that they are trying to make money off a free public resource: the ISM bands. Being commercial hotspot provider is a little like claiming a free lunch, then complaining when others also claim their free lunch instead of buying it from you.

    6. Re:why people will pay by lizrd · · Score: 3, Interesting
      Free Wi-Fi at a hub would get me to change airlines.

      I generally fly United I have my points there and my company has contract rates with them so I usually take a connection from my local (small) airport through ORD or DEN to get where I need to be. My company also has contract rates with Northwest and if MSP and DTW offered free Wi-Fi that would be sufficient reason for me to change airlines.

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  2. You get what you pay for. by Whitecloud · · Score: 5, Insightful

    A free internet wifi connection... but then you are buying coffee and a muffin, so you ARE paying. The cost is absorbed by the cafe. A big business might be able to run at a loss to gain customers, your local cafe sure as hell can't. And really, if you think about it, how much is a coffee and muffin? Is it cheaper than 1 paid hour for web access? Sure, you might have bought a cappacino anyway, but its the little extras you buy that make it worth the cafes while to offer *free* internet.

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    1. Re:You get what you pay for. by adzoox · · Score: 3, Interesting

      But what is the cost of adding a router? ALL businesses should have access to the internet. There should just be a one time expense of the router.

      So you are correct in a sense that you get what you pay for - cheap router, maybe not always stable, or slow access. At pay sites, like Waypoint for instance - these models work fine because they have exclusitivity in Airports around the country and the access is controlled by very nice quality high end equipment. So you truly are getting what you pay for.

      I agree with a post above - businesses will offer wifi just as they offer bathrooms and air conditioning to their customers.

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    2. Re:You get what you pay for. by Dagny+Taggert · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I think that's the proper way to look at this: a value-added service that is paid for in the cost of the product or service you are buying. I understand that there are going to be free hotspots, but providers will have to get one over on those spots by selling security and reliability.

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  3. Free like air-conditioning by philntc · · Score: 5, Funny

    I'm not sure where I read it the first time, but the model I keep coming across for wifi is that it will follow the same business model as air conditioning.

    Businesses will offer it because it would simply be bad for business not to.

  4. one small problem with to many free wifi access by mpost4 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I had one person tell me I had no right to lock down my WiFi access points at my home and the 3 WiFi at my church because the internet should be free, and I was dening people access to the internet by not alowing them access to a pipe they were not paying for.

    1. Re:one small problem with to many free wifi access by millahtime · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Then look at it from a security standpoint. Because it's your home and church you need to have the security because of liability. What if someone searches for kiddie porn, or shares music and the RIAA comes after you or a million other things.

      If the US at least if its yours then you are liable. That's why those places that offer it free have an agreement first.

  5. Security will be the profit center by buelba · · Score: 5, Interesting

    The article makes no mention of security which, it seems to me, will be the best way to make money in the hot-spot business. When I use a public, non-WEP hotspot, all I ever do is SSL to my command-line account and run pine or some such. (My internet provider hasn't done secure POP yet, but they're working on it.)

    On the other hand, maybe there's no money in security either. When traveling for work, I can use secure VPN into the company system, and it doesn't matter whether my hotspot is secure or a total cesspool. So there's no reason to pay extra for T-Mobile on the company dime, and I'm certainly too cheap to pay extra when on my own dime -- I'll just use SSL to check email.

    It is a conundrum. Perhaps WPA is the solution, but I'm not waiting up nights for it to be widely implemented.

  6. Just take a cue from the MPAA and RIAA by YetAnotherName · · Score: 3, Funny

    If you can't find "a sustainable business model" lobby to make free hotspots illegal.

  7. Nothing is free by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Everything costs money...deal with it. The "Internet" was never free and never will be. Fiber optics, switch gear, etc...all cost money. I am a network enigeer by trade...I know first hand how much equipiment and staffing can cost. The saying "you get what you pay for" is very true in the networking world.

    1. Re:Nothing is free by laigle · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Don't forget that for the normals, free is synonomous with paying for the service through price increases in other areas. There are hoards of people (and I use the word in its most flexible sense) that will gladly pay $10 for a cup of coffee because that coffee shop has "free" high speed wifi, which they need to check their text based email every ten minutes for fresh spam.

      Especially if someone tells them that helps their cell phone reception.

  8. It's not just the carriers by ZackSchil · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I was staying at a hotel a few weeks back and I had my laptop with me. For $10, I could get wired broadband in the room for 24 hours. Seemed a bit steep to me so I waited until I came to a point where I absolutely needed the internet. I was sitting at the desk on the other side of the room (near the window) when my laptop, an old G3 Powerbook with a Linksys Wireless-G card, told me that a wireless network was suddenly available, 50% strength. Curiously, I connected to it and it didn't require a password. As soon as iChat signed on, I noticed that someone using the router had a Mac too and was signed on Rendezvous IM. I started up a chat and explained my predicament to him. He said it was great to meet me and I could use his new wireless access point as much as I wanted, as long as I kept my bandwidth use under control.

    And that's pretty much how a lot of people feel about wireless broadband. As long as you don't inconvenience them, you're free to use their network. It's that attitude that basically makes paying for wireless access an unsustainable business model. I wonder how long until ISPs band together to make open connection sharing illegal and scare everyone into thinking that sharing their connection is morally wrong.

    1. Re:It's not just the carriers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

      I can see the ads already...

      "When you share your internet connection with someone, you're sharing it with everyone they've ever shared their connection with."

      "Sharing your internet connection facilitates the spread of viruses. Do you want to lose all your files to the untrusted menace?"

      "This is your computer. [SMASH] This is your computer sharing its wireless internet connection. Any questions?"

  9. When your customer is your engineer... it happens by samjam · · Score: 4, Interesting

    This is the kind of thing that happens when much of your customers are also your engineers (or interchangable with them.)

    Its what happens when your service-providing hardware becomes commodity.

    Have we ever been able to benefit from such a super-scaled economy before? I don't think so; it will take some getting used to.

    Welcome the new generation, no longer hostage to high setup costs; We can do it ourselves.

    - OK, admittedly because the hi-tec industry keeps churning out the pieces; this is the bottom of the technology/market food chain, but its never looked so good before.

    Everything is marginal and there are enough people to eat the margin.

    Sam

  10. Snooze you lose by ifwm · · Score: 3, Interesting

    So, how long has 802.xx equipment been available? I would understand if this were a budding technology that was just breaking, but I have had a wireless router for 2 years, and I am certainly not an early adopter. The truth is that businesses that should have been on this bandwagon all along are only now seeing the potential for profit. Sorry guys you missed the boat on this one. Also, I would argue that there is already a great business model in use. Free wi-fi for customers of your restaurant/cafe/bookstore etc.

  11. Telecom or infrastructure? by Alkonaut · · Score: 3, Interesting
    Is finding a sustainable business model always the answer in internet infrastructure? Compare with roads and other infrastructure, surely we could have a complicated system of roadbuilding, fees and such, or we could just all pay up and build the damn things, because no other business model would be anything but complicated and annoying (I have never once had to stop my car to pay a toll/fee, but I suspect it would annoy me).

    For whatever reason, market economy is always assumed to solve all problems related to electronic infrastructure. And that assumption is the reason why dsl services are still embarassingly overpriced in the US.

  12. Add Value by nuggz · · Score: 4, Insightful

    To compete you must add value, or offer a lower price.
    Competing with free removes the price driver.

    I don't see that many options to add value. But it isn't my job to dream up business models for others.

  13. A model that I like by LincolnQ · · Score: 5, Interesting

    This is a repost of a comment I made that nobody modded :-)

    Free hotspots are acceptable in places where it's not much of a marginal cost, and where people wouldn't be able to 'leech' very much (i.e., hotels and such.) But in places where there are a lot of randoms, that is no good.

    I've also seen pay-to-access credit card methods, but I wouldn't want to use them -- that is mainly for business users.

    An advertising based hotspot as in this article seems very annoying, but it would also be pretty easy to hack Mozilla and get around the advertising overall.

    How else can we pay for wireless? Here -- My idea, never heard it elsewhere, I think it's good:

    A wireless hotspot 'jukebox' (or parking meter, or vending machine, or whatever metaphor you would like).

    It is simply a box with a coin deposit -- anyone can go up and put a coin in, and the machine gives everyone in range Internet access for X amount of time. (1 dollar for 15 minutes? If people actually USED dollar coins, it would be good, I think).

    Anyway, I believe the social model of this would be interesting: the person who needs it most and who can probably afford it the easiest (doing business or whatever) will end up paying for everyone as long as they want to use it. If there is no 'business user' at the time, the people who just want to use it casually will probably just volunteer to pay for one unit at a time.

    This method is convenient, easy to implement, cheap to build, and easy to use. Admittedly, business users would probably rather have a credit card and authentication system that would allow them to charge it to the company, but I think that casual users would spend quite a bit more than they currently do. It is pretty cheap for them.

    Anybody hear of anything like this implemented anywhere else?

  14. Meshing to make communal resource by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Maybe theres a future in mesh Wi-Fi as a possible help to business models. Im not sure about the legalities of reselling services, but say a bunch of businesses get together and offer coverage of a 2km radius in a town, they could get other businesses to chip in and spread the cost so it becomes very little per business. I saw somewhere that a local tourist board were subsidising such a venture so they could call claim to be a 'Wi-Fi Internet enabled town'. I know its not traditional business, but ideas like this are needed to help spread the cost of free public access.

  15. Just need to get the business model right. by mobileone · · Score: 3, Informative

    Current business models of non-free public hotspots assume that the HotSpot is operated by a Wireless Internet Service provider, with some kind of revenue sharing with the venue owner. In other words the business relationship is not between the end-user and the venue owner, but instead between the end-user and a third party (the WISP).

    This business model is in strong contrast to other goods and services which are sold at the venue. At a hotel everything from breakfast to video on demand is sold directly from the hotel to the hotel guest. This gives the hotel a strong incentive to promote the products and make sure that the product works. With WiFi today most of the revenue goes to the WISP which also has the support obligation towards the end-user.

    Wifi access needs to be sold directly by the venue owner to the end-user, and the venue owner also needs to be the primary responsible for the quality of the product.

    Have a look at personal telco which has a great review of open source HotSpot software.

  16. Free is not the future by div_2n · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Free is not the future so long as it is run by private entities. There are several reasons why this is so:

    -security -- sure someone isn't sniffing your data and/or hammering your system for vulnerabilities while you surf?

    -reliability -- when the access point you are connecting to locks up, who do you call?

    -quality of service -- does the person operating the AP you are connected to have SSH blocked? What about FTP? SMTP? You just don't know.

    It seems to me what is REALLY happening is that free wireless Internet is making plain access a comodity such that high premiums won't last. Look for services beyond Internet access to appear widespread.

    Also look for one of two things to happen -- either providers using the free spectrum will have to charge tax for providing service OR wired companies will become exempt from having to charge them.

  17. Biggest problem with WiFi hotspots: WHERE ARE THEY by torpor · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Until someone comes up with an Internationally Recognized symbol that you can paint on the wall, put up in the window, or otherwise make known, which means "WI-FI ACCESSIBLE HERE ... USE DHCP TO GET AN IP ADDRESS", and by 'recognized' I mean on the same order as that of other major international symbols ... then, WI-FI is forever going to be a 'fringe' service.

    I'd use WI-FI, everywhere it was available, and I'd pay for it too, if only it was really easy to see where WI-FI was going to be accessible. Someone come up with a good WI-FI branding strategy first and then we'll see successful WI-FI economic models come into place ... but until then, users of WI-FI are still going to have to be experts of the ether in order to 'know' when and where they can get on the 'net ...

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  18. Some will pay for ubiquity; others will enjoy free by eggboard · · Score: 4, Interesting

    It's not binary choice; it's a duality. As I write about all the time on my Wi-Fi weblog, a certain category of Wi-Fi hotspot user will wait for reasonable roaming plans and then pay for it (or their business will more likely pay) because it gives them a predictable, consistent, high-speed experience.

    Free is great, and free doesn't have to be inconsistent or mom and pop. For instance, look at Austin Wireless City or Marriott's budget hotel chain (free wired or Wi-Fi in all of their mid-level hotels by the end of 2005).

    But for business venues and business districts and a consistency in access, people will pay. If every McDonald's has branded Wi-Fi and it's just $20 per month, then certain travelers--perhaps millions--will take advantage of that.

    When roaming kicks in full scale, and all US hotspots are covered by a $20 per month fee from Comcast or Qwest or Boingo or other consumer firms reselling access, then for consumers who need it, there's no question. Businesses will pay $200 per month cell bills; a $20 per month surcharge for more productivity through unlimited US roaming won't be a big deal.

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  19. I have seen the Death of Pay-for WiFi. by nikster · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I used to use SurfAndSip way back when it started in San Francisco. $20/Month for unlimited internet access is not bad, especially if you have a cell phone (save $10 on land line) and spend a lot of time in or around cafes anyway.

    But last week, i saw the death of this model. I went into the Canvas Cafe - free wireless access from 8 am - 6 pm, and the typical hipster atmosphere we all love and loathe. I sat down with my latte, and saw in front of me 30 (thirty!) laptops. Everybody in this place had a laptop. All of them with WiFi (new and shiny PCs and 50% macs). I think i saw maybe two people without computer. The whole cafe had turned into some kind of office. It was packed.

    Now, this cafe was popular to begin with, but this was a weekday, and this was sometime in the afternoon.

    The euquation is simple: Free WiFi = more customers!. Once that begins to sink in, imagine how many Cafes would _not_ be able to affort $50 per month for a serious DSL line. Exactly Zero. Any business can afford that. The cost is negligible.

    This isn't some theory or opinion. This is reality: It's happening right now, it already happened, it's working, and there is no stopping it or turning back the clock.

    I am sorry for SurfAndSip (which always had excellent service and good prices) and less sorry for others (e.g. t-mobile with their attempts to sell the internet as something close to Gold). But the reality is: The future is free wireless access. Paid-for hotspots will be gone in no time. The only way i can imagine these companies making money is by reselling DSL and installing the equipment.

  20. Hotels by macemoneta · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Several hotel chains in the US are now advertising free WiFi connectivity when you stay at the hotel. This is where I see free hotspots as a business model -- a value add on an existing market. Given a choice between two hotels (all things being equal), which would you select, the one with the WiFi or the one without? Similar to advertising free cable TV, a pool, or even air conditioning, free WiFi can be used to attract customers at low cost for the establishment. Now that some are offering the incentive, I expect free WiFi to be an across-the-board service provided by any decent hotel.

    Other environments, where you may only be using the service for an hour or less (cafe, airport, etc.) will have a hard time justifying a cost that makes the credit card processing worthwhile. A subscription model may work in this environment, but that just means another company is taking a chunk of any profit.

    I have to think that WiFi (or some form of Internet access) will be considered a low cost utility or courtesy at some point -- like a water fountain, electrical outlet or even a public restroom. Most people take those for granted now, and I expect that the same will be true of WiFi in only a few years.

    Paying for WiFi access now is paying for the deployment of the hotspots. Once they are reasonably ubiquitous, they will be "free" (included in the cost of doing business).

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