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The Art of the Tech Demo

Alan writes "A lot of people underestimate the significance of a good technology demo. A good tech demo can be more important for a GPU product launch than even benchmarks. However, this means more than just pretty graphics or complex shaders. In my final article to the industry, I explain what the art of the tech demo is all about. "

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  1. Why don't they just ask the demoscene? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    We've been doing it for years..

    http://www.scene.org

    1. Re:Why don't they just ask the demoscene? by softwave · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I am not trying to turn this post into a nostalgic troll, I'm actually trying to make a point here.. just sing along with me :)

      Back in the days, making a demo was about showing off "software"-skills. A demo was all about coding fancy effects on a broad range of hardware with no support for hardware acceleration whatsoever.
      Soft pop, technoish 4-, 8-channel music was tracked (trackered?) on a crappy soundcard (thank you Gravis for bringing us the GUS!!)
      Pixelated art was often a result of many hours of hard work, patience and eye for detail.

      A tech demo as referred to in the article is much more about showing off the capabilities of new hardware. The demoscene has brought to the fore some very talented artists, some of them making their way into the professional software business.

      But still, I think there is a big difference between a demo (as in, "demoscene") and a showoff presentation with some fancy effects. The ideology and philosophy is totally different (as is the expected result and audience).

      I'm not trying to be al elitist about the demoscene. I just think that it's a subculture and should be considered as such.

    2. Re:Why don't they just ask the demoscene? by execom · · Score: 2, Informative

      Some tech demos has been already done by some ex-demo makers:
      - 3DMark series have been produced by some guys from Future Crew or Dust
      - One of the latest nVidia demo 'Nalu' has been done by Hubert N'Guyen who is working at nVidia.
      He was from Impact Studios
      - List go on ..

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    3. Re:Why don't they just ask the demoscene? by Archibald+Buttle · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Back in the days, making a demo was about showing off "software"-skills. A demo was all about coding fancy effects on a broad range of hardware with no support for hardware acceleration whatsoever.

      Back in the days of demos the main demo scene revolved mostly around the Commodore Amiga. It was about showing off software skills, but they most definitely made use of hardware acceleration. The graphics processor in the Amiga ended up doing most of the graphics work in a demo with the 68000 working essentially in a management role. No broad range of hardware on the Amiga though - all the variants were very similar.

      Now the PC demo scene inevitably did not have any hardware acceleration as part of their demos, since back then there was none. Video cards in those days on PCs only showed video - even 2D acceleration facilities to speed up drawing windows weren't around... It's only recently with the introduction of more sophisticated GPUs on PCs that some of the kind of things that Amigas could do in hardware are technically possible to do in hardware on PCs. PC demos therefore had to be about software skills rather than what nifty things the hardware could do for you.

  2. Back in the old days... by Agent+Green · · Score: 4, Interesting

    ...there actually used to be a demo scene which really turned out some amazing stuff. My favorite demo group of all was the Future Crew, and Second Reality did some really pretty neat stuff on some pretty mediocre hardware. Though, the VLB card I ended up getting sped up significant portions of some of the more intensive portions of the demos (i.e. the concentric rings in Second Reality).

    I used to leave it running in a loop at work so we could sell more computers. :)

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    1. Re:Back in the old days... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      The demo scene is still going strong, though the general public doesn't seem to care.

      http://pouet.net for some delicious scene-ry :)

    2. Re:Back in the old days... by White+Shade · · Score: 5, Informative

      you speak of the scene as if it was past tense ... i think you'll find that you are wrong!!

      the scene is still going quite strong! :D

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    3. Re:Back in the old days... by flynn_nrg · · Score: 4, Interesting

      In a sense it is. I used to be an amiga scener back in the day, and recently wanted to see what the PC guys are up to these days. I can tell you, I'm pretty disappointed with most of what I've seen. I was very impressed by stuff like this, which, ironically, was coded by an ex-Amiga guy (dierk "chaos" ohlerich).

      I don't mean to flame, but I've been much more impressed by what games companies are doing these days than by PC demos from the last two years. There was a time when the demoscene was ahead of game developers. I don't think this is still true.

      TBL still makes demos for Amiga 1200 (060/AGA) that are quite impressive. Most PC stuff I've seen is mediocre.

  3. Animusic by PhrostyMcByte · · Score: 4, Interesting

    One of the demos they go over in the article is the Animusic demo for ATI's Radeon 9700.

    That was one of the cooler demos I've seen. The graphics aren't that special but paired with the sound the scene comes alive.

  4. A demo by any other name ... by torpor · · Score: 5, Interesting

    ... In my industry, demo's (or, more appropriately, demo songs) have been a staple part of the released product for years.

    Okay, demo songs for synthesizers are not often the 'best' example of what the synth can do. But this is also a good thing, sometimes ... because musicians will often hear a 'demo song' and think to themselves "sounds great, but I could do better", and the moment someone is thinking that about a song on your product (in my business), you're closer to a sale.

    IF the demo is interesting enough 'sounding' to get their attention, but turns out to be pretty 'uninspired' as a song, then this leads the musician/customer to think 'okay, great capabilities, poor execution in the track, I'll take it and see what I can do better' ...

    Its been known for a long time that a demo need not be 'superlative', just "demonstrative of the technology you're trying to sell", and not much else. When was the last time you heard a "Hit Demo Song" coming from a synth? But, I'll bet you anything that the demo songs on most modern synth gear these days contain factory patches that you'll recognize as sounds in popular songs, and no matter how cheesy the track is, if it somehow shows you what is 'possible' with the hardware, even if its naff, then you're closer to a sale ...

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    1. Re:A demo by any other name ... by johneee · · Score: 2, Funny

      Heh. I remember watching a crappy show on a local cable access channel that had all sorts of music on it that I thought sounded familiar. I thought about it for a while until I remembered that they were all demo songs from a Roland synth.

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  5. Agreed. by SinaSa · · Score: 5, Funny

    Yup. I can attest to that. Being part of a GPU design team myself.

    If only we hadn't have used the goatse man as part of our tech presentation on the big night, we might still be around.

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    1. Re:Agreed. by Dr.+Cody · · Score: 2, Funny

      Yup. I can attest to that. Being part of a GPU design team myself.

      If only we hadn't have used the goatse man as part of our tech presentation on the big night, we might still be around.


      So that's what happened to BitBoys...

  6. 1st thing to remember in a techdemo... by sh0dan · · Score: 5, Funny

    ...Boobs! - They seem to be rather obvious to show off high polycount and advanced shading techniques. Furthermore they are also a good place to show off your great dynamic-body-physics-engine(TM).

    ... insert more good reasons to show boobs in tech demos here...

  7. Valuable Experience by eltoyoboyo · · Score: 5, Insightful

    A very successful integrated solution salesman, with whom I once had the pleasure of working, had a very relevant quote for here:

    "Do a demo, lose a sale."

    The deeper explanation is that so many salespeople come to call with "gadgety" demos and slides. The really successful salesperson LISTENS to a customer's problems and tries to work out a solution in common.

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    1. Re:Valuable Experience by PD · · Score: 2, Funny

      That's very insightful. Remember what Oracle did to become the biggest database company in the world? They did presentations, not demos. If you wanted to see the database working, you had to buy it. The salesman would not show you the actual database during his pitch.

      That led to the old joke, playing on Oracle's support for many computer platforms:

      Q: What platform does Oracle database run best on?
      A: A 35mm slide projector.

  8. Show man chip I guess V.s Jaded Nerd by Onceat · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I agree , I have seen many impressive demos ( in various formats and guises) , but I thought it was just the fact that im older now , that that wow , almost wet myself it was so good feeling was not there anymore, looking back on some of the things I thought where great back in the day (1989) , granted they have lost there wow factor now , but nothing these days comes close, SGI used to be really good at the wow factor

  9. Naked pixies in gossamer lingerie . . . by pariahdecss · · Score: 5, Funny

    Its the naked pixies that influence my GPU purchases. If I am going to drop $500.00 on the latest GPU it better have a naked pixie tech demo. Errr wait didn't NVIDIA try that . . .it didn't make me buy their leaf blower GPU. (remote power station not included - see store for details)

  10. The real art of the demo by russotto · · Score: 4, Funny

    Is how to rig it, of course. To misquote a phrase, any sufficiently advanced technology can be simulated by a rigged demo :-)

  11. I don't know by Erwos · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I think the importance of tech demoes have diminished greatly in recent years, when cards have had more or less the same capabilities (not speed, maybe) anyways. I mean, a DX9 tech demo is theoretically able to run on any card that can "do" DX9.

    Also, when it comes to bragging rights, "prettier tech demo!" just doesn't work on most people. Intangibles like frame rate and features are what people can easily point to.

    That's not to say GPU tech demoes are worthless - but in comparison to other stuff, they've had their day in the sun. Fortunately, I predict a long life for them on consoles :).

    -Erwos

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  12. Different situation by AllenChristopher · · Score: 2, Informative
    Right.... but these are downloadable demos to sell cards to individuals and developers, not integrated solutions sold to large companies. You'd need millions of identical skilled salesmen to sell to each GPU customer.

    In the absence of Sludge Vohaul's phone number, developing a good demo is the best choice.

  13. Just in case the server crashes and burns... by mirror_dude · · Score: 2, Informative

    Just in case the server crashes and burns (like they usually do),I have put up a mirror.
    The mirror of http://www.firingsquad.com/features/art_of_tech_de mo/ is at http://mirrorit.demonmoo.com/r_706/www.firingsquad .com/features/art_of_tech_demo/

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  14. Tech Demos - Dreamcast vs Playstation 2 by JaF893 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The tech demo is how Sony PlayStation 2 was able to stifle the Sega Dreamcast despite platform parity early on.

    I think in this case the author is exaggerating the importance of tech demos. I wonder what % of Dreamcast or PlayStation 2 owners have actually seen either of the two tech demos? I think the simple fact that the PS2 was backwardly compatible was much more significant then some stupid tech demo

  15. Re:1st thing to remember in a techdemo... by nikster · · Score: 2, Insightful

    boobs... it goes much further than that. boobs are _always_ useful in any kind of advertising or trying to get attention. it's the one thing that always, always works. has for thousands of years.

    no matter what the product: slap some boobs on the front, and it sells.

    it's not for nothing that bay watch is (still!) the most watched TV show on the planet.

  16. Misplaced priorities by poot_rootbeer · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I don't know what the videocard industry is thinking sometimes. Maybe instead of sinking so many hours of coder time in creating these pretty bits of eye candy for each new product release, they should assign some more resources to the development and QA testing of the actual drivers.

    I dunno about you, but I think the last time I bought a video card that came with a rock-solidly stable video driver was the VGA card that came with my 386. For every card since, it seems like it's been a buggy, 90% functional driver at release, an update to 95% functionality and fewer bugs three or four months later, and then no further driver releases as the driver teams have all moved on to the next bleeding-edge chipset.

    1. Re:Misplaced priorities by doinky · · Score: 3, Insightful
      As a former driver developer, I can tell you that 85% of "driver problems" are hardware problems that the driver failed to work around (sometimes because it was impossible to do so without compromising other goals of the product).

      I worked on the Savage 2000 driver for S3, for instance, i.e., the one that everybody thinks was broken because T&L didn't work. Of course, the hardware came back so incredibly shitty that it was actually _slower_ to use its pipeline than the one me and another guy wrote in software (originally as an exercise in load-balancing in high-number-of-lights conditions and to handle a couple of D3D7 features the chip didn't support).

      The driver writers at graphics chip companies know their stuff. They're good. Fundamentally, with immature hardware and the desire for speed at all costs, I think they're doing the best they can at this point.

    2. Re:Misplaced priorities by Build6 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      the problem here isn't the videocard industry - it's capitalism. no industry can survive without sales, and effort spent on getting sales is more directly relevant to the company's survival than hunting down the last few bugs. as long as the showstopper bugs ("Bug No. 4523: customer PC combusts when card is inserted") are resolved, they will ship it.

  17. Joke Time by CaptainZapp · · Score: 2, Funny
    An Oracle salesman dies and goes to heaven where he is welcomed by St.Peter.

    St. Peter gives hime a lute shows him to a cloud and instructs him to sit on the cloud, play the lute and rejoice.

    So the Oracle salesman sits on the cloud, plays the lute and rejoices. Evening comes and St. Peter is coming to the salesmans cloud and asks him how he likes it in heaven.

    The guy goes: I'm honest with you, St.Peter. I think it's a pretty bland place."

    OK, says St. Peter, instructs the salesguy to follow him and takes him to the express elevator that leads straight to the gates of hell.

    St. Peter knocks and the door is opened by Lucifer himself. Behind Lucifer there's an unbelievable scene to be viewed:

    Miles and miles of white beach. A nice surf on the ocean. Muscle bound young men and tasty looking bikini clad girls play beach volleyball. Laughter fills the air. There are piles of food and multiple open bars (with an outstanding selection of single malt whiskies).

    After having taken in the view St. Peter leads the Oracle guy back to the express elevator which takes them straight up back to heaven.

    "Well", says St. Peter. "You have seen what hell is all about and you have to make your final decision now. Do you want to stay in heaven, sitting on a cloud, playing your lute and rejoice, or do you want to go back to hell? But, whatever you do: Your decision is final and can't be changed."

    "Alright", sais the sales guy. "I think I rather chose hell".

    "Fine", says St. Peter, guides him to the express elevator and down he goes; straight back to the gates of hell.

    He knocks and almost burns his knuckles from the hot door. Lucifer opens with a smile and a complete different scenery evolves behind Lucifer:

    There's fire and heat everywhere; torchured people with pained faces try to escape their miseries. The screams and yells of the tormented fill the air.

    The Oracle salesman is stunned and says: "But, but... this is incredible. I've been here only 15 minutes ago and this place was completely differen!"

    "Well", smiles Lucifer: "That was the demo..."

    Ok, it's old, but nevertheless illustrates the power of good demo...

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  18. Ahh, but now by spoco2 · · Score: 2, Funny

    Back in the days, making a demo was about showing off "software"-skills. A demo was all about coding fancy effects on a broad range of hardware with no support for hardware acceleration whatsoever.
    Ahh, but now, unfortunately, it seems to have gone the way of "We aren't even going to try to run on your machine unless you have pixel shaders". Which is really annoying as every now and again (every few months), I remember about demos and go and hunt some down, download what are currently rated as the best and then find out I can actually run about 1 in 20 of them... :(

    Man I wish I had money, I so want a 9600XT