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Realistic Human Graphics Look Creepy

WellHungMonkey writes "A really interesting read on Slate about how realistic human faces in games and on robots and so on, are not necessarily the way to go -- the brain isn't fooled, it attaches itself easier to Snoopy-like simplicity... Or Lara Croft attributes, but I'm not sure that's the brain talking."

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  1. I don't care how realistic the figures look... by miroth · · Score: 5, Funny

    ...as long as the blood spatters are lifelike when I blow their heads off.

    1. Re:I don't care how realistic the figures look... by greechneb · · Score: 4, Funny

      And how do you know what realistic splatters look like?.... nevermind, I don't want to know.

    2. Re:I don't care how realistic the figures look... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny
      ...(or even collard shirt and jeans)....

      Yum, that reminds me of a great collard shirt and jeans recipe I got off the web....

      Ingredients

      • Collard shirts (whole collard shirts or sleeves)
      • 2 blue jeans (acid washed are best)
      • Water
      • Salt to taste
      • Toppings (pick one or more)
        • Hot pepper vinegar
        • Onions and vinegar (chopped onions and vinegar mixed together)
        • Salsa
        • Small whole tomatoes

      Wash shirts thoroughly (I use Tide He in my Maytag Neptune), approximately 3 or 4 times to ensure they are clean and free of insects. Remove large tags.

      Place jeans in an extra-large pot with enough water to completely cover them. Add salt and cook jeans at least 30 minutes (longer if not pre-washed) before adding collards shirt. Add collards, big sleeves first (let them start boiling), then add remainder of shirts. Cook 45 minutes to 1 hour, stirring once about midway to ensure thorough cooking. Test for tenderness of cuffs at 45 minutes by piercing with a sharp knife. Cook additional time if necessary.

      Remove from heat and drain in a colander, reserving the juice (pot likker). Chop collards with a collard chopper or a knife, leaving no large sleeves or pieces. Add some of the pot likker if the shirts are too dry. Salt to taste. Serve hot or at room temperature with your choice of toppings.

      Apologies to the site with the real collard greens recipe

    3. Re:I don't care how realistic the figures look... by Yuan-Lung · · Score: 4, Funny
      combat simulators can't simulate:
      • Lack of sleep.
      • Equipment Failure. (M16's really don't like sand.)
      • Boredom. (For most of the battle, you are just sitting there.)
      • Running around in chem suits under a desert sun.



      well, I donno about you, but I get those just fine.

      * Lack of Sleep
      Lack of sleep is a given for many players. I have had teamates drifting to sleep in battles every now and then.

      * Equipment Failure
      I really don't see why a game can't simulate this. Set a probablity of failure on the weapon as a function of terrain, and a state flag on the weapon. It's simulated.

      * Boredom
      Depending on the mission senario, you may be required to wait it out while your partners complete some task. However, since the point of the game is to keep people entertained, a well designed mission should have too much of this.

      * Running around in chem suit under a desert sun
      Over clocked AMD in a cramped AC-less room in a hot summer day.
    4. Re:I don't care how realistic the figures look... by zero_offset · · Score: 3, Funny

      I involuntarily groan every time somebody sits down at a keyboard and announces that they have to "hack the mainframe". Which inevitably takes 15 to 20 seconds.

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    5. Re:I don't care how realistic the figures look... by ultranova · · Score: 2, Funny
      It's not that you can't simulate the gun jamming. You can't simulate the feeling of absolute helplessness on the part of the soldier who now seems to have brought a club to a gun fight.

      Try playing Nethack. I assure you that you'll have more than enough moment of absolute helplessness...

      "You are paralyzed by the floating eye's stare!"
      "The newt bites ! The newt bites ! The newt bites ! The newt..."
      (much later)
      "The newt bites ! You die..."

      --

      Forget magic. Any technology distinguishable from divine power is insufficiently advanced.

  2. sorta like... by GillBates0 · · Score: 5, Funny
    The once-cute robot now looks like an animated corpse. Our warm feelings, which had been rising the more vivid the robot became, abruptly plunge downward.

    Michel Ja...uh...Jefferson.

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    An Indian-American Hindu committed to non-violent thought/speech/action alarmed by the global explosion of radical Islam
    1. Re:sorta like... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      thats just ignorant... you're all just ignorant

  3. examples? by nycsubway · · Score: 5, Funny

    I'd like to see some examples of these pictures. Sure they are creepy, sometimes people can be fooled though. I had a picture of Aki in a bikini from the Final Fantasy movie on my computer. My girlfriend found it and wanted to know why I had it. She didn't beleive me that it wasn't a real person.

    1. Re:examples? by meringuoid · · Score: 4, Funny
      I forgot to turn off that Aki desktop image when my GF came to visit. Fortunately she noticed that Aki actually looks a lot like she does

      Do not torment us, foul one! First, cruel and evil fiend, you taunt us with your Having a Girlfriend. Then, to rub the salt right into the already painful wound, you tell us she looks like Aki...

      Git git git git git.

      --
      Real Daleks don't climb stairs - they level the building.
    2. Re:examples? by NanoGator · · Score: 2, Funny

      "In case (like me) you feel the need to find this picture, I think the one the parent poster is talking about is here"

      Wanna know how classy my friends are? They referred to her breasts as 'bussards'.

      --
      "Derp de derp."
    3. Re:examples? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      -- I had a picture of Aki in a bikini from the Final Fantasy movie on my computer. My girlfriend found it and wanted to know why I had it. She didn't beleive me that it wasn't a real person.

      and of course she felt so much better when she found out what it really was...

    4. Re:examples? by visgoth · · Score: 4, Funny
      Yes, that's rather... interesting. However, on further reflection, there is a valid technical reason for why he's missing his, err... attributes. The guy is never shown nude in the sequence he appears in. I'm betting that if the model of the asian girl was shot from a low angle, she's be missing her genitals as well. I'm not sure why any time was invested in modeling and texturing the nipples on her though, considering they're never seen either.

      Bah, fuck it. We all know the real reason... guys don't like looking at other guy's wee-wees so the sculptor conveniently ommited it.

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      My patience is infinite, my time is not.
  4. here are the pictures by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny
    scary pictures in case of slashdot effect

    :-)
    :-|
    :-(

  5. Re:Curve by WormholeFiend · · Score: 2, Funny

    I love simplicity... the www.roflcopter.com flash game proves that you dont need complexity to have a fun game.

  6. Tux Racer by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    What does this mean for tux-racer? Will hardcore linux advocates be freaked out by his penguin-like qualities?

  7. Re:Curve by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    > I was disappointed with the semi-recent Hulk movie, but does that mean the game
    > had to suck too?

    Yeah, they unfortunately planned that at a board meeting. A minority of the execs thought about making both good, then they tried to compromise on bad movie good game, then the CEO said "fuck it, they will both suck." And all the yes-men in the room agreed.

  8. R2-D2 is humanlike?? by SkankhodBeeblebrox · · Score: 5, Funny
    From the article:

    When an android, such as R2-D2 or C-3PO, barely looks human, we cut it a lot of slack. It seems cute. We don't care that it's only 50 percent humanlike.


    If you know ANYONE who even VAGUELY resembles R2-D2, I want to see pictures!! (yes, I know they were using them as examples of androids, but jesus... I think using C3PO alone would have sufficed :P
    1. Re:R2-D2 is humanlike?? by RealErmine · · Score: 3, Funny

      If you know ANYONE who even VAGUELY resembles R2-D2, I want to see pictures!

      Oh, I don't know...

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      Dewey, you fool! Your decimal system has played right into my hands!
  9. The problem is... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Most humans are inherently creepy.

    Why would machine replicas be any different?

  10. He's wrong. by hkb · · Score: 2, Funny

    Just Ask Slashdot. Hundreds of Slashdot readers and their ethernet-connected RealDolls(tm) can't be wrong.

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  11. Re:Americas Army by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    I had the same feeling when playing "The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time". I just could never have the heart to empty a jar containing a goldfish onto the ground - it would just flop about helplessly - putting it back in a pond was the only thing I could do.

  12. Re:In movies too by wcrowe · · Score: 2, Funny

    "The first 90% of the code accounts for the first 90% of the development time. The remaining 10% of the code accounts for the other 90% of the development time".

    Was this supposed to be a joke, or just yet another product of the stellar American education system?

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    Proverbs 21:19
  13. Re:Reminds me of another article by TheLoneCabbage · · Score: 5, Funny


    This has got to be the first time in history that a new technology CANT be used for porn!

    Mod this up, this is brilliant!

  14. Re:Umm. They aren't *that* realistic. by LiquidCoooled · · Score: 2, Funny

    This is slashdot, I'm sure I am not alone in measuring every space ship up against Enterprise.

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    liqbase :: faster than paper
  15. Of Course They Do! by Jameth · · Score: 4, Funny

    I'm glad the rest of the world realizes it. I've known I hated looking at people for years now.

  16. Re:What about art? by Joseph+Vigneau · · Score: 4, Funny

    Leonardo da Vinci had a pretty bad frame rate though: the Mona Lisa took about three years to complete, which gives .00000001FPS (1 frame / 3 years).

  17. Re:Uncanny Valley by MyHair · · Score: 4, Funny

    An example would be looking at a girl, being attracted to her and having no idea why i.e what specific features makes her attractive to you?

    Her personalities.

  18. Re:Umm. They aren't *that* realistic. by nelsonal · · Score: 2, Funny

    Even Trogdor is somewhat believable as a dragon with a big human arm sticking off his back.

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    Degaussing scares the bad magnetism out of the monitor and fills it with good karma.
  19. Re:In movies too by spezz · · Score: 3, Funny
    Look, developing stuff takes a long, long time.

  20. Animations doing animations? by pjt33 · · Score: 3, Funny

    Now [i]that's[/i] creepy.

  21. Re:Uncanny Valley by larkost · · Score: 3, Funny
    An example would be looking at a girl, being attracted to her and having no idea why i.e what specific features makes her attractive to you?
    Her personalities.
    So.. are you into bipolar women, or ones with multiple personality disorder?
  22. This has been my problem... by figa · · Score: 2, Funny

    with Robin Williams for a long time.

  23. Lara astounds two brains in gamer guys... by geekpuppySEA · · Score: 2, Funny
    ...but I'm not sure that's the brain talking."

    Well: men have two brains to think with, but only enough blood to use one at a time.

    --
    Intelligent Design: because MATH is HARD.
  24. Case in point by uncadonna · · Score: 3, Funny
    Saw the trailer for "Polar Express" before the new Harry Potter movie. I was revolted, far beyond my ordinary mundane revulsion for Christmas stories, but couldn't really express why.

    This explains it.

    --
    mt
  25. Botox by errxn · · Score: 2, Funny

    It's as if all the characters have been shot up with some ungodly amount of Botox and are no longer able to make Earthlike expressions....

    And this is different from real Hollywood actors how?

    --
    In Soviet Russia, Chuck Norris will still kick your ass.
  26. Pfft. Easy by InfiniteWisdom · · Score: 2, Funny

    # Lack of sleep.
    There are no save points. If you die you must start over. You can be attacked at any time. If you shut the game off, the next time its started events are generated in an accelerated time frame, and you won't be able to respond.

    # Equipment Failure. (M16's really don't like sand.)
    ProbabilityOfFailure = 90 - 90.0 / (LevelOfSandInAtmosphere);
    if (randion() % ProbabilityOfFailure == 0)
    {
    PlaySound ("m16_click.wav");
    Player.M16.FireRate = 0;
    Player.M16.State = JAMMED;
    Player.State = WTF;
    }

    # Boredom. (For most of the battle, you are just sitting there.)
    Player.State = BORED;

    # Running around in chem suits under a desert sun.
    You just need to get that special USB 2.0 enabled Heat Lamp

  27. Re:Americas Army by StalinsNotDead · · Score: 2, Funny

    Take away the psycho's guns and give them a potato.

    Never underestimate the hazards of a determined psychotic armed with a potato.

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    Thanks to the internet, we can now all die alone together! -SomeWoman
  28. Re:Style by Zixia · · Score: 3, Funny

    I think William Shakespeare said it best:

    O for a Muse of fire, that would ascend
    The brightest heaven of invention,
    A kingdom for a stage, princes to act
    And monarchs to behold the swelling scene!


    Why the FUCK did I think that read 'William Shatner'? I was expecting the 'I am Canadian' speech.

  29. Quote from "Invader ZIM" by lucretio · · Score: 2, Funny

    Dib: "I can only hope that the Irkens just happen to use the same operating system that I do!"

  30. Military movies are the same by YrWrstNtmr · · Score: 4, Funny

    I can't sit through a movie with fighter jets without pissing everyone else off.

    "No, you fool...you cannot launch a missile while the aircraft is on the ground!" (well...you can, but it's hard and you can't do it solely from the cockpit) (something with Michael Douglas)

    "No, the runway is NEVER next to the main gate" (James Bond)

    "If you shot off all your missiles, how come you now have 3 more? (All of them)

    "um, no. A 'modified' F-117 is NOT big enough to hold a squad of people inside" (Air Force One)

    "No, you can't outrun a missile for that long. Either it would have run out of fuel, proximity detonated, or hit you by now." (Behind Enemy Lines)

    Hair and uniforms. (All of them)

    "If you're going to call them Air Force planes, at least use Air Force planes. F-18's don't count." (The Rock, ID4)

    and don't get me started on Iron Eagle:
    "No, you fool...you cannot plug your flight helmet into your Walkman!"

  31. Re:Uncanny Valley by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    > Her personalities.

    she's got huge... tracts of land.

  32. Re:Perceived Invulnerability by MQBS · · Score: 2, Funny

    I know exactly what you mean.

    A few years ago, I was in to Baldur's Gate in a big way. For a week, I played the game from start to finish. When I was called to dinner by my parents right as I was psyching myself up for the final battle, I forgot to leave the game baggage behind. A few minutes in to dinner, I remember twitching my 'space-bar' thumb (pause in Baldur's Gate) to get up and use the bathroom, and being shocked for a few seconds that reality continued. It was a freaky expierience. I've never allowed myself to get that much into a game since.

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    The dream reveals the reality which conception lags behind. That is the horror of life- the terror of art. -Franz Kafka