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McDonald's Germany Moves to SuSE Linux

sglafata writes "Novell has made an announcement that McDonald's is moving towards Linux. 'With more than 30,000 restaurants around the globe and more than 1,200 in Germany alone, McDonald's is the undisputed market leader in the fast food sector.'"

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  1. soo... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    so, are they going to start serving penguinburgers?

    1. Re:soo... by tokachu(k) · · Score: 5, Funny

      I think you mean "lizardburgers", as it's SuSE. In that case, it starts today.

      In other news, will SCO be suing them later for either health problems or copyright infringment?

    2. Re:soo... by Lshmael · · Score: 4, Funny

      I assume you missed "Is the Linux Desktop Getting Heavier and Slower?" from yesterday.

    3. Re:soo... by ComaVN · · Score: 4, Funny

      How do you know it's meat?

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    4. Re:soo... by Syzar · · Score: 4, Interesting

      They should also include Geeko and/or Tux toys in Happy Meals.

    5. Re:soo... by Zog+The+Undeniable · · Score: 4, Informative

      It's a chameleon called Geeko.

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    6. Re:soo... by frs_rbl · · Score: 5, Funny
      From SCO's site (no link to increase their page rank) Think they're going to sue one of their own clients for copyright infringement? ;-) Sour pill to swallow...

      Case Study: McDonald's

      "The everyday business of a McDonald's restaurant requires a stable operating system that can give round-the-clock performance," said John Doty, Director of US Information Technology for McDonald's Corporation's Store Systems. "We are very pleased with the performance of SCO UNIX®. SCO's platform has provided us with a very stable and reliable system. SCO UNIX® has been a dependable platform for thousands of McDonald's restaurants over the past 10 years and we're looking forward to migrating our restaurants to the current version."

      McDonald's Serves It Up with SCO UNIX® World's Largest Restaurant Food Chain Planning Migration to Latest SCO UNIX® Platform in Over 4,000 Stores; SCO OS Increases Networking Capabilities and Reduces Costs

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    7. Re:soo... by perly-king-69 · · Score: 4, Funny

      Because a multi-national corporation is hardly likely to lie to us now, is it. Oh, hold on...

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    8. Re:soo... by transient · · Score: 4, Funny
      True story:

      I had a teacher in high school who was really, really allergic to beef. When I say "allergic" I'm talking about a trip to the hospital, all kinds of drugs, and he'd still be vomiting for hours. One day, this teacher had a hamburger at McDonald's.

      Nothing happened to him.

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    9. Re:soo... by Bohnanza · · Score: 4, Insightful

      So he ordered a hamburger with full knowledge of his beef allergy? Sure, he did... Anyway, As McD's always points out, with the low prices at which they buy beef, anything else would be more expensive. Think about it - how much would it cost to ship roadkill kangaroos from australia?

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    10. Re:soo... by kaiidth · · Score: 5, Informative

      I know you're not serious but you should know that Germany is experiencing what is most kindly referred to as a tech slowdown, and more honestly referred to as: Today, there are nearly four hundred long-term unemployed, well qualified (Masters' degrees or more) tech specialists looking for a job in my (small) city alone. And my city is peanuts compared to Frankfurt. It's tiny.

      So don't try this at home, at least unless you have two degrees and preferably a PhD as well as being mother-tongue bilingual in German and English, and maybe in another language too, have kept German-style Letters Of Reference throughout your professional career and you have friends in reasonably high places or are naturally lucky. In a year or so it should be safe to try again (goes my optimistic viewpoint), but in the meantime there are better places to be, like just about anywhere else, except for on LinuxTag of course.

      The German tech scene has been in trouble for a while now, probably ever since CeBIT ceased being anything but an intrabusiness marketing forum. As with everywhere, the year 2000 was a fun time here, but this spring's CeBIT was just depressing. New and cool stuff is mostly coming from elsewhere - German industry has done what the tech industry does at times like this, which is to dump R&D and fall back on selling management 'skills'. Curled up like a stunned hedgehog, in other words, and never mind the obvious prick jokes.

    11. Re:soo... by asr_man · · Score: 4, Funny

      SCO's lovin' it!

  2. Will they... by flewp · · Score: 4, Funny

    Will they use the money saved to use better meat?

    Or should I say, will they use the money saved to buy ACTUAL meat?

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    1. Re:Will they... by Paster+Of+Muppets · · Score: 5, Insightful

      In the time honoured fashion of large companies, it is much more likely to go on directors' payouts, not improving the product

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    2. Re:Will they... by Chess_the_cat · · Score: 4, Informative

      According to Snopes you're a damn liar.

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  3. Robble Robble by buckhead_buddy · · Score: 5, Funny

    I thought the Hamburglar was already working with SCO.
    Would this be a conflict of interest?

    1. Re:Robble Robble by ValourX · · Score: 5, Insightful

      No, but if history holds true, this makes McDonalds a target for an SCO lawsuit. Both Chrysler and Autozone were former SCO UnixWare customers who switched to GNU/Linux.

      -Jem

    2. Re:Robble Robble by kjj · · Score: 4, Informative

      The thing is that they were FORMER customers who no longer had any SCO contracts. In the case of DaimlerChrysler they hadn't been using SCO products for seven years. I believe AutoZone completely phased out SCO operating systems a couple of years ago. In these cases SCO really didn't have much to lose. It would be far more suicidal of SCO to go after a current customer who provides them with a very large portion of there OS revenue. A threat of a lawsuit against McDonalds might scare them back to SCO or more likely McDonalds would terminate all future contracts and begin switching over to something other than SCO.

    3. Re:Robble Robble by Zocalo · · Score: 5, Insightful
      this makes McDonalds a target for an SCO lawsuit.

      You'd think, but didn't SuSE get a restraining order or something on SCO last year? I'm wondering if McDonalds has been planning on moving to Linux globally for a while and didn't want to wait until SCO is toast before proceeding. A SCO hostile court system in Germany that has already ruled in SuSE's favour would make the country an ideal place to run the Linux trial while providing some protection from SCO. Very clever of McDonalds...

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  4. Take this, SCO ! by forged · · Score: 5, Funny
    Dear Darl,

    Time to update your success story pages again.

    Regards,
    Linus

  5. Well now... by abscondment · · Score: 4, Interesting

    That's really exciting--maybe they'll switch to high quality food now, too.

    But seriously...

    McDonald's Germany deploys SUSE LINUX Enterprise Server for DNS, FTP, and proxy services on the Internet.

    I doubt that they'll replace their in-store systems. There's no real need there--most places are running something really ancient that still works. However, I wouldn't mind seing a penguin or two while I'm ordering... and, with all that money they've got, who knows?

    1. Re:Well now... by DrXym · · Score: 4, Insightful
      LOL - I will correct post right away - I got the press releases all mixed up. The SCO press release says 4000 stores (anywhere), the Novell one says 1200 stores (in Germany) but talks of running SUSE Enterprise Linux. So my points are based on a total misreading of what was in front of my eyes. My bad.


      Anyway sooner or later anything running SCO is doomed.

    2. Re:Well now... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      You'll lose a lot of karma making mistakes like that.

      No wait, my bad. I was totally wrong. You'll get BOTH posts modded up. Can I have a +4 insightful for pointint out my mistake?

    3. Re:Well now... by tomknight · · Score: 5, Funny

      Open sauce, of course.....

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  6. I wonder. . . by Brissie_lad · · Score: 4, Funny

    . . . if Darl is dreaming of a McLicense with Coke®?

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  7. Not much behind this really... by coupland · · Score: 4, Informative

    From the press release:

    McDonald's Germany deploys SUSE LINUX Enterprise Server for DNS, FTP, and proxy services on the Internet.

    I count three servers there, and "FTP" hardly strikes me as a core service for a fast-food company. This is your typical press-release, intended to produce hype but without a lot behind it. It strikes me as grandstanding by Novell since everyone knows McDonalds uses SCO Unix for many of their POS terminals and someone who reads this headline quickly may think they're ripping out Unix and putting in Linux. Sorry, only three boxes at play here.

    And no, I'm not defending SCO, I'm just saying this press release doesn't mean much.

    1. Re:Not much behind this really... by commodoresloat · · Score: 5, Funny
      "FTP" hardly strikes me as a core service for a fast-food company.

      Actually, the Fries Transfer Protocol is definitely a core service.

    2. Re:Not much behind this really... by Zayin · · Score: 4, Insightful

      "McDonald's Germany deploys SUSE LINUX Enterprise Server for DNS, FTP, and proxy services on the Internet."

      I count three servers there, and "FTP" hardly strikes me as a core service for a fast-food company.

      Services != servers

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    3. Re:Not much behind this really... by Tony-A · · Score: 4, Insightful

      This doesn't sound like just DNS, FTP and proxy services to me.
      McDonalds has been using computers for a long, long time and Novell is business-savy enough to not let loose their customer's plans.

      "SUSE LINUX Enterprise Server enables us to deliver a functional, flexible, efficient, and yet efficient infrastructure," says Trepl.

      Apache as web server and JRun or Tomcat enable the implementation of static HTML contents as well as dynamic Java-based applications without having to resort to overly large solutions. The utilized Oracle9i database is certified for SUSE LINUX Enterprise Server.

      According to Trepl, "Our current solution can be expanded at any time. This is possible due to the low price, the flexibility of a Linux solution, and the certification of SUSE LINUX Enterprise Server for solutions such as Oracle9i. Thus, there is no upper limit."

    4. Re:Not much behind this really... by Feztaa · · Score: 5, Funny

      PR was sleeping, and yet sleeping.

  8. Poor SCO by Tailhook · · Score: 4, Interesting

    SCO has, for some time, told anyone who will listen that McDonalds cash registers run SCO Unix. Micky-dees is one of their largest customers.

    Correction: WAS one of their largest customers!

    When it rains it pours, eh?

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    1. Re:Poor SCO by Mycroft_VIII · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Unfortunately Pizza Hut's systems also run sco.
      Might explain why they have kept cutting back on the number of people they keep on staff in thier stores to the point where if the local hut isn't pulling down quite a few bucks you can count on slow service because they just don't have the manpower to keep up.
      Just DON'T take it out on the delivery driver by not tipping or worse, tipping very poorly. I guarantee he's doing his level best to deliver as many as possible in as little time as possible. He makes his money on those tips, not the paycheck and thus the more deliveries he makes the more $$ he makes.
      Still If you want to hurt sco a bit and get better service just don't order pizza hut, but tell them why. (say "stop using sco and hire enough people to do the job")

      Mycroft

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  9. Bad for MacDonalds by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Without the power of Windows they'll be bankrupt within months. I know that because I have a certificate.

  10. sales grow marketshare by Doc+Ruby · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Novell is back - they convinced thousands of businesses to network in the 1980s and 1990s. And now they're selling Linux and support to more businesses. Which will need Linux software, and pay to get it. Either in cash, to developers, or in GPL code they revise and publish. The economic network effect will see Linux value increase exponentially as more nodes in the value net grow yet more nodes, passing value back and forth among the network - all paved with Linux. I haven't been this happy about Utah and Germany swinging together since the last Olympic skiing broadcasts.

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  11. yes they are by commodoresloat · · Score: 5, Funny

    McDonald's is trying to make new inroads with the wildlife-loving set. After penguin burgers they will be introducing the wildly successful Baby Seal breakfast sausage. But the tastiest addition to their menu will be the Bald Eagle McNuggets. Yum!

  12. Another v.bad joke... by CdBee · · Score: 5, Funny

    ..Thought Linux didn't have driver support for their chips...

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  13. Unix vs Windows by humankind · · Score: 5, Interesting

    It's interesting that this has come about because I had a long discussion with a friend today who was ruminating over whether to pursue a career in IS related to Unix or Microsoft.

    A cursory glance of the job opportunities seemed to indicate to him that getting MCSE certification was a wiser move than going into the Unix arena. He asked me, "If unix is so much better, why are there more Microsoft-related jobs?" And is Unix the future or is this just a fad?

    I couldn't help but think that in my mind, Microsoft-based corporate IT setups are often more political than practical. Yes, you'll find more jobs with MCSE but it's not because there are necessarily more opportunities. It's because Microsoft-based tech people burn out more quickly, and often the companies they work for make politically-oriented tech decisions over what is practical and economical. It's almost like a litmus test for good corporate management these days. If a big company is using Unix, that's a sign they give their IT department substantive authority to pick the best tools for the job.

    It's nice to know more recognized companies are obviously asking the tech people what are the best tools available to accomplish the objective.

    So Microsoft or Unix? He continued to ask me.

    After some thought my resonse was, "If you want job security and choices, MCSE will give you that, but don't expect to ever get to a point where you have things under control. That's something Unix people encounter a lot more often. But one look at the stats, such as the fact that Microsoft has only 21% of the Internet web server market and shows no sign of de-throning Apache, reveals that Unix is anything but a fad. Why less Unix-based jobs? Probably because Unix admins are a happier lot and turnover in their area is nowhere near the massive burnout rate of MCSEs."

    So Micky-Ds in Germany is going Unix? This is less a sign of the corporation legitimizing Unix as it is likely that a number of key executives in that region have recognized that it might be a smart move to ask the IT people what are the best tools for the job.

    1. Re:Unix vs Windows by dduck · · Score: 4, Insightful

      The answer is simple: Unix-related jobs are on the increase. Go with the growing market, rather than the mature one where competition is likely to be higher, and pay + security therefore lower.

  14. Reminds me of by mqRakkis · · Score: 5, Funny
    Reminds me of this bit in drivers/net/sunhme.c:
    static void happy_meal_tcvr_write(struct happy_meal *hp,
    unsigned long tregs, int reg,
    unsigned short value)
    {
    int tries = TCVR_WRITE_TRIES;

    ASD(("happy_meal_tcvr_write: reg=0x%02x value=%04x\n", reg, value));

    /* Welcome to Sun Microsystems, can I take your order please? */
    if (!(hp->happy_flags & HFLAG_FENABLE))
    return happy_meal_bb_write(hp, tregs, reg, value);

    /* Would you like fries with that? */
    hme_write32(hp, tregs + TCVR_FRAME,
    (FRAME_WRITE | (hp->paddr << 23) |
    ((reg & 0xff) << 18) | (value & 0xffff)));
    while (!(hme_read32(hp, tregs + TCVR_FRAME) & 0x10000) && --tries)
    udelay(20);

    /* Anything else? */
    if (!tries)
    printk(KERN_ERR "happy meal: Aieee, transceiver MIF write bolixed\n");

    /* Fifty-two cents is your change, have a nice day. */
    }
    1. Re:Reminds me of by ColaMan · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Windows: "The application encountered a problem and has to close. We apologise for the incovenience."

      Linux : "happy meal: Aieee, transceiver MIF write bolixed"

      Now come on, admit it. You'd use windows more if it gave out error messages like that. Even a simple "Ooops. We fucked up that last write operation rather badly. Sorry". Phrases like that just seem to convey a bit more feeling and sincerity than the dry corporate psuedo-regret that windows serves out.

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    2. Re:Reminds me of by wfberg · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Windows: "The application encountered a problem and has to close. We apologise for the incovenience."

      Linux : "happy meal: Aieee, transceiver MIF write bolixed"

      Now come on, admit it. You'd use windows more if it gave out error messages like that. Even a simple "Ooops. We fucked up that last write operation rather badly. Sorry". Phrases like that just seem to convey a bit more feeling and sincerity than the dry corporate psuedo-regret that windows serves out.


      Even better is that those "unprofessional" linux errormessages are pretty creative, and therefore pretty much unique to whatever problem you might be experiencing..

      "The application has encountered a problem" is as unspecific as you can get. What problem? Perhaps suppressed sexual anxiety relating to a childhood obsession with its mother, no?

      At least the linux error messages are googlable..

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  15. Re:Supersize me by scmason · · Score: 5, Insightful

    " Is it just me or isn't this a bit of a coop for linux."

    While stories like this are still interesting, I am not sure that it is really a coop anymore. In '96 I would have been forwarding this story to everyone I knew, but Linux is all grown up now. Hell, Linux runs some of the biggest computers in the world these days. Slobbering over stories like this is a lot like getting all excited when your 11 year old kid is able to dress himself when he has already been doing it for 9 years...

    While it is good news for Novell and Suse, it should be expected that an extremely adept and profit driven company like McDonalds would see that Linux IS the full meal deal.

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  16. A much more interesting McDonald's related article by Granos · · Score: 5, Informative

    There is actually a much more interesting press release on the Novell website about NetWare and McDonald's Brazil. It is unclear whether or not Germany was running SCO Unix on the servers before the switch to Linux, but SCO is apparently not a worldwide McDonald's affiliate, as McDonald's Brazil has been running NetWare for 15 years. This article also gives much more information about the IT infrastructure of McDonald's, since the slashdot article just made me think "How many DNS, FTP, and Proxy servers can McDonald's Germany possibly have?". McDonald's Brazil, which is about the same size as McDonald's Germany, has 6 giant servers in different locations accross the country, and each one has a huge database for all of the information of each restaurant, plus the administrative information. You have to remember that a lot of the IT related stuff is for McDonald's huge corperate staff, not the people taking your order. The other interesting thing is that McDonald's is completely centralized, so if a server failure occurs, and the in-store machines can't connect with a central database, they apparently can't take orders or give receipts out at the actual restaurants.

  17. Two Completely Unrelated Headlines by gowen · · Score: 5, Funny

    McDonald's Germany Moves to SuSE Linux

    and

    Is the Linux Desktop Getting Heavier and Slower?

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  18. Imagine a beowulf cluster of.... by PsiPsiStar · · Score: 5, Funny

    no, wait. I guess that's called a franchise.

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  19. In the other news... by jabapi · · Score: 5, Funny

    ... McDonald's announced their latest delicious product, McBride Meal.

  20. McDonalds - good today? by caluml · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Funny how McDonalds is the epitomy of bad fattening food, environmentally unsound, and a nasty big corporation, but when they're switching to Linux they're OK.

    Why do people keep buying their food anyway? I have to assume that people forget how bad it us until a nice shiny advert comes along and convinces them how good it is. Those nice soggy floppy burgers. Hmm.

  21. Re:Supersize me by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    Okay, I wasn't going to be a dick about this, but it has been repeated three times without anybody mentioning it, so I gotta step in and point out that a co-op is a place where the shoppers have a financial stake in the management.
    A "coop" is a house for animals like a chicken coop.
    A "coup", as in the French phrase "coup d'etat" is a striking victory. It was also used as a reference to the Native American tradition of touching one's enemy in battle to demonstrate your dominant skill and control over the battle.
    A "coupe" is a type of car body.
    To "coo" is to speak in a murmuring tone much like that of a pigeon.
    So, this time I'm going to let you all go. But if it happens again. . . well, I'll kick your fucking asses.

  22. Re:Supersize me by 1u3hr · · Score: 4, Informative

    a coop for linux.

    coop A cage or pen for confining poultry
    coup A notable or strikingly successful move.

    Do you really think Tux belongs in a coop?

  23. No big deal by arvindn · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Linux deployments on the server stopped being news years ago. If we see some movement on enterprise desktops, that'd be worthy of the /. frontpage.

  24. Educational services. by mshiltonj · · Score: 4, Funny

    McDonald's is the undisputed market leader in the fast food sector.

    This is why I like slashdot. It's so educational.

  25. Serve them to fat clients by danormsby · · Score: 5, Funny

    Guess they'll be doing a complete install at every McDonald's as they love fat clients.

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  26. Micros (not Microsoft) by gatkinso · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Don't kwow about Europe, but MacD's USA is a big customer of Micros - they make POS terminals and the "backstore/office" hardware to support it.

    I interviewed there once - they seemed to have SCO Unix and NT based systems.... atleast in the dept that I interviewed in.

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  27. You insensitive clod! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    You just increased SCO's pagerank with keywords "success story"!

    Tell me, were you smoking something?

  28. Does this mean... by Handover+Slashdot · · Score: 4, Funny

    That Suse will now look fresh and tasty on the box, but the actual product you get will be sort of stale, brown and wilted?

    I seem to recall Michael Douglas going ballistic over this in a movie once...

  29. Realistically, folks.. by rkhalloran · · Score: 4, Insightful

    McD's could give a rat's rump about the SCO case as such, but their IT department has to see The Writing on The Wall: that the vendor for the back-end software in their thousands of franchises is crashing. There's already an injunction in place in Germany against SCO making claims against Linux, and using SuSE gives it a 'local vendor' bonus there, so it's an easy choice for a proving ground.

    If this works, with the Novell deal now giving them a US support base, they have a potential migration path out of a failing vendor. Whether they wait for SCO to crater or just move ahead and dare SCO to bring suit on their largest customer remains to be seen.