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Yahoo Boosts Email Space in response to Gmail
coleslawjoe writes "This article at New York Times explains that Yahoo has decided to boost their E-mail space (Soul sucking registration required) from their current 4 megabytes to 100 in response to Gmail. They are also planning to offer 2 gig mailboxes for $19.99(USD)."
Looks like only 2 of my 3 Yahoo! accounts got the boost overnight? Anyone know more details about the rollout? polymorpheus
Why ever would I want a whole gigabyte? I'll just go to yahoo and get one-hundred entire megabytes of wonderful inbox space, on a page riddled with graphical advertisements. This is so much better than a gigabyte of inbox space, on a page with text ads. I'll tell all my friends about Yahoo!'s new, awesome offer.
Hrm...tough choice, i'd say. Heh, they are all going to be playing catch-up to Google for a bit anyway; hopefully we can see more (and better) deals in light of google bringing us such great things (like so many other company's have decided not to do, instead money-grubbing and pulling and biting and lying to get another dollar from you.
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What makes Gmail incredible and revolutionary is the search features, the amazing interface, the threading, the labeling, and the tried and true "google minimalism."
Getting 1000mB's of space is just a side effect, that's there because gmail makes it desirable to archive multiple entire mailing lists.
Yahoo! is missing the point.
Big surprise there. Yahoo need to do something to remain competitive.
I'm personally waiting for gmail to come out of beta and then I'll probably move from yahoo to google locak, stock and two smoking spam filters!
Offtopic, but why does google engender a warm fuzzy feeling of trust whereas yahoo, hotmail and the rest "feel" like corporates out to make a quick buck? It's a totally false feeling, but it's happens...
Yahoo gives a warning when your mailbox reaches a certain size anyway, so it's easy to do some quick maintenance like delete that email with the absurdly large attachment to get the space back. But 100megs will certainly help.
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Nope, it seems that all sites powered by Akamai are unreachable right now...
...throwing down the gauntlet. I have had a Yahoo Plus account for a little over a year now, so I got my 2Gb space when I logged in this morning. At this point, Yahoo has the advantage of an online calendar (a great tool if you are a traveler)and the ability to sort your mail into folders. I also have a GMail account, mainly because it was offered to me. While the idea of that much space is appealing, I don't like not being able to sort my mail. Furthermore, I believe this encourages people to store documents online, a practice that is, IMHO, dangerous given the problems that Hotmail has had recently.
Don't be a looter...and yes, I know that it's spelled with an "A" instead of an "E".
Thats not totally true. Sometimes I keep old e-mails for reference (i.e. any online purchases), contacts, etc. Yes I could transcribe them, but I would prefer, at times to keep the e-mail and should have the right. I do not think it is a solution to just delete emails that are old.
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The change seems to be quite inconsistent throughout their servers. I have several Yahoo accounts for different purposes, and when logging onto them today, sometimes it would show 100MB and upon going back to the Inbox page, it would show 4MB, sometimes the new stylesheet would load and other times only partially. Seems to be broken all over the place.
That's cool. It'll be nice not to have to clear out my Yahoo! inbox every week. This will probably stop me migrating. After all everyone already knows my @yahoo.com email address.
However, at some point my 100Mb box will be full, and I'll want to get it down to, say 50Mb. At which point I very much hope there'll be some decent new tools for bulk deletion. The idea of trying to free up 50Mb by clicking through page after page of email going "select... delete..." does not appeal.
Actually, I think that's more a result of Yahoo migrating to the new system. I've seen the new interface from my friend's account like 6 hours ago and it looks pretty slick. He had thought Yahoo! was bugged but we kept refreshing and we were able to watch them migrate to the new interface in real time.
... they are still probably porting over some of the accounts ... I wonder why they couldn't make "global" changes that would affect all users at once, as it probably should be?
I logged into my account and it was still using the old interface and had the old 4-megabyte limit. It wasn't until I logged in like 10 minutes ago that I logged in to see the new interface, although a bit broken
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we could all get so gooey over webmail again? or is it just me... ? ;-)
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This article at New York Times explains that Yahoo has decided to boost their E-mail space (Soul sucking registration required) from their current 4 megabytes to 100 in response to Gmail. They are also planning to offer 2 gig mailboxes for $19.99(USD)
Hmm. Now, let's figure out which business deal is better, shall we?
Do I either,
A) Pay $20 for a 2 gig Yahoo box, or
B) Open up 2 GMail accounts for free and still have 2 gigs of storage.
Now, the true genius will suddenly realize that if you open 3 accounts, that means you have 3 gigs of space, and that's more than 2 gigs that Yahoo offers. How many of you figured that one out?
Here's a snippet from my e-mail:
You are currently exceeding your Yahoo! Mail storage quota by a very large amount. You are only allowed -2048.0MB of storage but you are currently using 0.0MB of storage. Your account has been temporarily disabled from receiving new messages.
The easiest way to continue receiving your important email is to expand your mailbox. Yahoo! Mail offers 10, 25, 50 and 100MB of storage space starting at just $9.99/year.
Nice to know that I can only have negative storage. Looks like they want me to give them storage. Not exactly sure how I'm supposed to do that... At least it's just an account that comes with my DSL that I don't use.
My .co.uk address is still stuck on 6Mb - although I have been getting free POP access ever since they started charging .com accounts for it, so it's not all bad news.
I began using Yahoo! Mail years ago and I've had 6MB per email address (I've got two) ever since. When I signed my mother and father up to have Yahoo! Mail accounts two years later they were given 4M accounts.
The first thought I had though since being notified of the increase was, "How the heck am I going to keep track of all the junk I'll eventually have to delete?" My answer was, "To never allow it to clog in the first place by removing immediately any e-mails that I may want to save." The obvious answer.
IIRC, Yahoo only allows you to set up 10 rules for handling the email you receive. This is troublesome because now that we've been given so much free space, I know people will want to seperate their space by using folders - ideally, automatically - for just about everything and everyone they know. But, if 10 rules are the limit, I see in the future that limitations on space won't be the driving factor in attracting customers. Once again, it will all boil down to service and services available (options, rules, etc.) to the end user.
Because installing sendmail and some spam filter is non-trivial, and often a pain in the ass, and you have to worry about system security, patching, maintenance...
I'm seriously considering shutting down my own mail host because I've moved it three times in the last year, and every time I set it up again, I wonder why I'm putting all this effort into it.
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>> Particularly nice or significant email messages
> Never got one I wanted to keep yet.
i think this says it all, really.
I'm sorry to hear that; I really am.
Isn't all that impressive? Everytime I show it to people and show them all of the things it lets you do, they all start begging me for an invite. The Gmail interface is very utilitarian, much like their search interface. It also loads a *lot* faster than Yahoo!'s
Yeah - microsoft.com resolves, but not www.microsoft.com. Same with gmail.google.com, and www.google.com. :)
I imagine some people at Akamai are sweating a bit right now
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I do deliberately keep my email, and it pisses me off no end when I get some sort of hard disk crash that causes me to lose old archived email.
Hey! someone found a problem to your solution just recently. Its called "Backup". A revolutionary new technology that allows you to make a copy of your data to a non-volotile memory "device", such as a tape or compact disk. The technology even supports you bringing the "device" offsite so it survives fires/burglaries etc
Amazing, huh ?
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Actually it might. Right now, only beta testers can migrate to gmail. But most people can't. So they can't weigh whether the gmail service is better/worse than yahoo. As a consequence, people may discover that 100MB of mail space is all they need. If they're used to 6MB of mail space, 100MB is a huge increase. The decision isn't just between an additional 94MB and 994MB. It's between:
- 1000GB
- 100MB + keep current email address
Don't discount the cost of switching your email address. Keeping your email address is probably worth a whole lot more to most people than an additional 900MB of disk space... especially if they've been getting by with 6MB of disk space.IMHO, this is a really good move on Yahoo's part. It will be interesting to see how well it works.
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It's the other features such as Search, Labels, Conversations, Keyboard Shortcuts, and a lightning-fast interface that leverage the larger storage space. Anyone can offer tons of space, but unless you provide tools to effectivly utilize it, it's just space.
My mom always said, "Jim, you're 1 in a million." Given the current population, there are 7000 of me. God help us all!
and unbridled competition are once again evident as Yahoo has used its monopoly power to force an additional 96MB of space on us all!
You call not being able to send HTML mail a problem?
;-)
It's a new feature!
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For those who might be curious, I found an easy way to get rid of ads when reading your gmail (if for some reason, ads really bother you).
Just ask everyone to put the word "died" at the end of their messages. Gmail has this filter that tries not to be too insensitive by plastering your browser with ads for caskets next to news that Uncle Bob just died, so I guess it searches for words like that.
I tried with the words "disaster", "died", etc. and they all caused ads to disappear.
It might be creepy though after a while if every email had the word "died" at the bottom.... )
I don't understand the need for these gargantuan email boxes. My personal (non-work) IMAP mailbox has mail dating back to July 2002 (all of my email before that is archived and I never look at it), and it's just under 60 megabytes. At that rate, I would reach Yahoo!'s limit by the end of 2008, at which point I would probably just archive my email again. My work email is an entirely separate, company-provided account, but I still only have 186 megabytes of email going back to May 2000. 46.5 megabytes per year.
I think if you're using 1-2 GB for your email, then you should consider some non-email ways of managing your data. There are already many sites on the internet that archive mailing lists, so there's no need to keep around a personal copy of list mail. Purging the Trash and deleting spam messages helps to save space. Instead of emailing large files, consider serving them up on the web, ftp, etc. Even if you do email large files, there's no need to keep them in your mailbox after they are downloaded. Save them to your computer, burn them to a CD if needed, and delete them.
Then again, maybe everyone else on the internet is just way more popular than I am.
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Yahoo is hoping that increasing the storage space to 100MB will keep a lot of people from switching to Gmail.
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Screw a company that provides you with world-class service for free. Now that would be fair, right?
But the other thing to not forget is that Yahoo is ONLY doing this in response to Gmail. Prior to that Yahoo was actually taking away features and making more things only available to paying customers. I've been a Yahoo user almost since the beginning and have been constantly disappointed with any service that I paid them for. They have a tendency to bait and switch, or simply discontinue a service when it doesn't perform as they expected. I used their text paging service (for the year it was available) their local dial-up service (ditto) and am currently using Yahoo domains (which have been lowering their price in an effort to prevent erosion, rather than adding features).
I don't give a company credit for innovation when all they are doing is responding to REAL innovation. Gmail, from what I've seen so far is better, faster, has an interesting alternative to folders which may prove to be more effective, and has a commitment to continue adding features to their free service. Google has no add on services that you can pay for and I think they intend to keep it that way. They have Yahoo and MSN quaking in their boots and I think thats a good thing.
I'll stick with Gmail until something BETTER, not just AS GOOD comes along.
Figures... Last night i had to clean out 2 of my 4 yahoo emails because they were both over 90% full. And if I would of waited till today I could of left them all there. Damned my luck to hell!
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