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GNOME Gets its Own Software Repository
PostThis writes "After the attack to the Gnome servers a few months back the Gnome Project was left without a third party software repository (which wasn't that usable anyway). The gap was filled in very recently by GnomeFiles.org. The site was built using BeBits as a model (BeOS users still swear by it) and they are looking into filling up their Gnome/GTK+ software database quickly; they are offering prizes to Gnome developers who will submit an app during the first week of the site's launch."
Both BeOS users swear by it...
Gnomefiles.org looks nice and intuitive. I like the RSS feed, the layout and the simple interface of the site. I've wanted to go in this direction for some time and I think I might just have to try gnome out now. Any suggestions for someone getting started with Gnome?
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And don't forget gnome-look for eye candy
Am I the only one who thinks this is just a little bit too mundane for the front page? This is supposed to be "stuff that matters", or at least stuff that I wouldn't come across in my daily Internet travels.
I wonder whether I can submit all the miscellaneous lint I've acquired for the developers
It's a real pity when things like that get hacked - It's GNOME people who're the real hackers, after all. In addition, this is a free software group - it's not like they're a software giant *cough* who crushes small businesses *cough* and uses illegal business practises *cough* (Oh, sod this - MICROSOFT) We need more white-hats, to go and whoop Teh Script Kidde H4x0r'S arses...
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Four $25 Amazon.com gift certificates
- Ten OSNews subscriptions (allowing you to read a faster-loading OSNews without ads), a $20 value each.
- One copy of "Advanced UNIX Programming, Second Edition" by Mark Rochkind.
- Four blocks of $50 in free advertising to promote your application.
Nice!
Gnome gap gone, get gnew goodies grazing GnomeFiles.org
Yeah, I submitted mine today...it's called......um....gImmeaprize
Did I win?
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"Own" is good when this is in fact a commercial third party site.
While some people really like GNOME's design, I have significant issues with the software available to it and the desktop environment itself. GNOME has a hard time separating out libraries that it's not using for a given applications. The environment tends to take a shotgun approach at loading up EVERYTHING and then just dismissing libraries it's not using. The memory footprint, however, ends up being much larger than KDE (I didn't think this was possible until I ran GNOME).
I just hope that with this new incentive to bring in GTK+ apps that people start more closely examining the underlying software support for the GNOME project. I think GNOME is still light-years behind KDE, not so much in interface, but in foundation and logic.
I'd like to see more developers optimize GTK apps to only load needed libraries. I think this is one of the reasons linux has come under fire recently for being "unusable" on older systems - it loads up too much junk with the standard desktop environments. I don't mean for this to be a flame towards the GNOME project, but it's just an unfortunate trend I'm noticing.
GTK apps need to be refined, such that they don't start following the Microsoft paradigm of, "since we have it, let's bring everything in and add it to the toolbar... woot woot".
Any thoughts on this?
Ok.... now when will GNOME become less sucky again ?
How is "BeOS" pronounced? Is is "Bee Eee Ohh Ess", "Bee Ohh Ess", or "Bee-Ohhss"? kthnx
...if it is you, who invented it...
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...it would get its icon on Slashdot updated.
"Backups are for wimps. Real men upload their data to an FTP site and have everyone else mirror it." -- Linus Torvalds
I've been a long time user of BeBits and am real happy to see a similiar site for Gnome. It is a bit spooky to see a site that looks almost exactly like a site you've been using for awhile. It would be like a Bizzaro Slashdot where everything looks familiar, but then you notice that the articles use correct spelling and the Webmaster's name is Samurai Steve.
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I run Slackware, and yes I've dl'ed Dropline Gnome, but that has to be the slowest torrent I've seen in a long time. And it's torrent-only download.
Not Buzzword 2.0 compliant. Please speak english.
User X hears about Gnomefiles and see cool new verison .x of some app. He's currently running Fedora Core 2, Mandrake, or Suse(ie a top 3 distro) or something else that comes with Gome 2.6. Of course this new app requires GTK and glib .x which of course are newer than what he has on his system. User tries to get it working but either can't or ends up hosing his Gnome install. Now I'm sure this is when user of distro X pipes in a say "but my distro can do it!". Good for you. That doesn't change the fact that getting both the latest and oldest versions of Gnome apps running on the same system isn't a royal PITA for many users. Don't even get me stated on the latest apps which require Gstreamer.
Say what you want about Windows but if your running XP you can download and install pretty much any app from last 8 years and get it to work. There are of course exceptions to this rule but for the most part its possible with little to no effort. For most people Gnomefile.org is just going to be a painful reminder of what cool apps are out there but you can't run because you can't figure out how to install them without hosing your system. For the new generation of Linux Desktop users this continues to be a huge problem.
This was news several days ago...
Gnome get home!
Gnome no roam!
Last gnome home overthrown,
get owned!
Users groan:
Gnome overblown!
Biggest bloat known,
look like windows clone!
Gnome throw bone
Prize for code loan!
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that is gnome;
No more piss and moan."
Why does slashdot always gives Gnome a privilege? There are never any KDE news. Annoying.
You're right - if you work off of random tarballs off of the net, you will end up with a hosed install. Stick with the major distribution automation tools - apt, yum etc. Packages in the repositories are typically kept "sane".
From the story:
they are offering prizes to Gnome developers who will submit an app during the first week of the site's launch.
Of course, this is only a possible scenario (and I'm in a pessimistic mood at the moment (or always)). I hope the site goes well, though!
....why not, really? It's more than half way there already. When I think OS, I think the pile of applications I use. The gnome desktop and assembled apps are a GUI computing experience, that appears to me to be the design goal, they don't need much more to make a full fledged gnome OS, only real probs I could forsee would be which package manager they wanted to use, and they could put it to a vote probably.
Just a thought and I know in advance a lot of folks will say "you can do this with distroX, why should they....", I know that, just throwing it out for a possibility. Distros by and large are just choice of kernel, arch, how they package, pile 0 libraries, and what apps ya got. More or less.
Well, since an upgrade from Fedora Core 1 to Fedora Core 2 crippled my system so that I am unable to use GTK-based applications, it is difficult to be enthusuastic about this availability.
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and what you say is correct, I'll grant that-take your word for it. What I am thinking is also correct though, by trying to be all things to all people all the time they dilute resources, have to work around a lot of inconsistencies, etc. There's nothing stopping any large desktop project like gnome from deciding on being an *integrated* project rather than a *scattered* project that tries to be the kitchen sink for eveything out there.
It's just an idea, no biggee. Here is my thinking in an anology form. If I was starting out to build a car, and I wanted it to be the best car, I wouldn't simultaneously try to build a car,a truck,a tractor,a motorcycle,an airplane, a submarine, and a ferris wheel all at the same time. In meat space, companies that are just starting out and have a good idea but get sidetracked and try that sort of model run into problems a lot of times. I think things would get scattered and confusing and would slow down the primary deal. Eventually maybe, ya, branch out,after your core important product is just super established and well built and well received and works really well, sure go for it then, branch out, but initially, nope, wouldn't do it for a long time, I'd stick with the meat and potatoes market I was looking for that would maybe bring home the bacon, make it easier on me, and better for the clients-initially.
"What is BeBits for, anyway? tbd " http://www.bebits.com/faq Hehe.
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It is official; common fucking sense confirms: BeOS is dead
One more crippling bombshell hit the already beleaguered BeOS community when IDC confirmed that BeOS market share has dropped yet again, now down to less than zero fucking percent of all desktops. Coming on the heels of a recent common fucking sense survey which plainly states that BeOS has lost more market share, this news serves to reinforce what we've known all along. BeOS is collapsing in complete disarray, as fittingly exemplified by failing dead last [samag.com] in the recent Sys Admin comprehensive networking test.
You don't need to be a Kreskin [amdest.com] to predict BeOS's future. The hand writing is on the wall: BeOS faces a bleak future. In fact there won't be any future at all for BeOS because BeOS is dead. Things are looking very bad for BeOS. As many of us are already aware, BeOS continues to not have any fucking market share. Red ink flows like a river of blood.
FreeBeOS is the most endangered of them all, having lost 93% of its core developers. The sudden and unpleasant gayness of long time FreeBeOS developer Eugenia's husband only serve to underscore the point more clearly. There can no longer be any doubt: FreeBeOS is dead.
Let's keep to the facts and look at the numbers.
OSNews leader Eugenia states that there are zero fucking users of OpenBeOS. How many users of NetBeOS are there? Let's see. The number of OpenBeOS versus NetBeOS posts on Usenet is roughly in ratio of 5 to 1. Therefore there are about 0/5 = 0 fucking NetBeOS users. BeOS/OS posts on Usenet are about half of the volume of NetBeOS posts. Therefore there are about zero fucking users of BeOS/OS. A recent article put FreeBeOS at about 80 percent of the BeOS market. Therefore there are (0+0+0)*4 = 0 fuckining FreeBeOS users. This is consistent with the number of FreeBeOS Usenet posts.
Due to the troubles of OSNews, abysmal sales and so on, FreeBeOS went out of business and was taken over by BeOSI who sell another troubled OS. Now BeOSI is also dead, its corpse turned over to yet another charnel house.
All major surveys show that BeOS has steadily declined in market share. BeOS is very sick and its long term survival prospects are very dim. If BeOS is to survive at all it will be among OS dilettante dabblers. BeOS continues to be dead. Nothing short of a miracle could save it at this point in time. For all practical purposes, BeOS is dead.
Fact: BeOS is dead
Is this what GNOME should be imitating?
I really dislike sites that render all their content into a piddly little column in the middle of my browser window. It's not that hard to select a design that flows to the user's preference for width, really.
(Joel Spolsky's site being the worst offender yet: check out how bad it is when he includes a sidebar! There's more sidebar than actual text!)
I am a happy gnome user, but one area in which I think the gnome project needs a lot of work is with the webpage. Even though they recently (a year ago?) updated gnome.org with a new look, it is already falling into unmaintenance.
Furthermore, gnome.org is far from the central site regarding things about gnome, which I think is a big mistake. In fact, even though I'm a heavy user of gnome stuff and keep up to date with gnome news, I hardly ever visit. Many important websites about gnome like footnotes or fifth toe or this site just announced aren't part of the gnome.org or at least have a DNS alias. Why? This is one area where KDE really has their act together, nearly everything side project and KDE group is part of the KDE domain.
Maintaining a website is a lot of work, so I know what I'm asking but I really think they could do better.
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