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Spider-Man 2 Reviewed [updated]

Update: 06/30 15:42 GMT by T : This article has been pulled; the Spider-Man 2 review which appeared here was reposted without credit or permission from chud. (Read it in its original context.) We welcome original feature-length articles, but not plagiarism.

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  1. SPOILER ALERT by MarsDefenseMinister · · Score: 5, Funny

    Trinity dies in the end.

    Oops.

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  2. Raimi and CGI by nucal · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Some reviews of Spider-man 2 have mentioned that Sam Raimi is not all that comfortable with CGI ... which means that he tends to focus more on the human element rather than the blockbuster aspects of a movie. Given the depth of Peter Parker as a character, this seems like a reasonable trade off that helps make this better than the "typical" comic hero movie ...

    1. Re:Raimi and CGI by mblase · · Score: 5, Interesting

      While I thought "Superman 2" was the best superhero movie ever until the latest generation of superhero movies started coming out (ironically, all based on Marvel characters)

      It's not ironic; Warner Bros. (owner of DC Comics) has all but dropped out of the comic-book-movie business since the fourth "Batman" film, and if that was the best they could pull together I'm glad for it. On the other hand, Marvel doesn't have a big media company like WB owning it, so they're making up for the lack of comic book sales since the mid-90s by selling movie scripts (or, to look at it another way, cross-promoting their comic books to increase sales).

      Now, Marvel knew going into the game that comic book movies have a terrible track record, so they spent a lot of time and effort getting good scripts and directors for the first X-Men and Spider-Man films, and it paid off. Hulk was a good film, IMO, although not a lot of people loved it. Punisher I never saw. Daredevil I did see, and I frankly regret it. That last movie alone proves that just because Marvel's spending a lot of effort on these films doesn't always mean they're succeeding.

      I think Marvel's known all along exactly what you've stated: that good, believable, three-dimensional characters are what brings people back again and again. (Okay, so they probably forgot it for a while back in the 90s, but they're trying.) I'm as glad as you are that they've pushed hard to keep that aspect of their stories in the recent crop of films.

    2. Re:Raimi and CGI by cyclocommuter · · Score: 5, Insightful

      As a kid who grew up reading Marvel and DC comics, Spiderman easily became my favorite. No, it was not the action scenes that captivated me but Peter Parker's initial "nerdiness". He was bullied early on by his schoolmate Flash and he was even too shy to make a pass at his officemate at the Daily Bugle who I think was his first object of desire... Betty.

      The best Spiderman comic book episodes though was during the span of time he was fighting the Lizard (Dr. Connors), the Rhino, the Vulture and Kraven the Hunter... this was also a time of great turmoil in Peter Parker's life... he had to take care of his ailing Aunt May and was torn between his two ladies of interest... Gwen and MJ who as I recall, was introduced by Aunt May while Spiderman was about to face the Rhino. The original MJ on the comic book looked much better than Kirsten Dunst... thinner, more worldly. Peter Parker was in 7th heaven when MJ decided to go ride with him on his motorcycle.

      I am not sure if any movie can capture in film what those comic books conveyed to comic book nerds at the time.

  3. Re:Kirsten in Spider-Man by JPriest · · Score: 5, Funny

    _Why_ did he have to point out Kirstens droopy eyelid?! I never noticed it before, but now it is bothering me. damn you!

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  4. Re:Despite Kirsten Dunst?!?! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny
  5. Re:Hope it's good... by ConceptJunkie · · Score: 5, Funny

    Now let's try to keep our posts on topic instead of flaunting our opinions as if other people really give a damn.

    You must be new here.

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  6. a bird? an airplane? ...no! it's Spider-Man! by nazsco · · Score: 5, Insightful

    > For example the excellent train fight takes place on an elevated train in a part of the city where there are no elevated trains -- but it doesn't matter. The film makes it work, so that you don't even think about it

    HOW THE HELL SHOULD I NOT THINK ABOUT AN ELEVATED TRAIN LINE WITH A DEAD END THAT WOULD THROW A BRAKELESS TRAIN RIGHT INTO FIFTH AVENUE!?!?!?!?!?!?!

    also, they transformed spider-man into super-man!
    - add eyeglasses to alternative identity. check
    - not a smart ass. check
    - CAN STOP A FSCKING TRAIN WITH ITS BARE HANDS! check

    oh! the humanity!

    1. Re:a bird? an airplane? ...no! it's Spider-Man! by Necromancyr · · Score: 5, Insightful
      I put a teeny little 'my view' of the movie on my site - nothing to submit to slashdot, but the BIGGEST problem I have with the new movie is that Spidey isn't a smart ass...at ALL...during fights. If you've ever read the comics, that's one of his biggest things.

      No matter the situation, Spidey always has a one liner to toss out. THere might have been 1-2 in the entire movie...even with the lower volume of action scenes, it was a big let down.

      Movie's still great though.

  7. time.. by Docrates · · Score: 5, Funny

    Bonch, dude, you just spent 3 hours writing a review of a 2 hour film....

    Kinda makes you wonder doesn't it?

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    1. Re:time.. by Bushcat · · Score: 5, Informative
      Bonch, dude, you just spent 3 hours writing a review of a 2 hour film....

      Or he spent 2 minutes cutting and pasting Devin Faraci's review over at CHUD.

  8. When will? by NEOtaku17 · · Score: 5, Funny

    When will the Indian version hit theatres in America?

  9. Re:Seen it, liked it, but # 3 doesn't look good th by Osty · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I cant remember 100% my storyline progression but doesnt Harry become the Hobgoblin instead?

    I don't remember the exact progression (which came first, GG or HG?), but I do know that Harry takes up the mantle of the Green Goblin. The Hobgoblin was someone else (Googled for it). I thought there were only three Green Goblins (though I couldn't remember other than Norman and Harry). It looks like there were four of them. There were also four different Hobgoblins. Apparently villains in the Spider-Man mythos like to recycle old ideas (see the page above, there are several different iterations of a number of villains).

  10. A differering opinion regarding Kirsten Dunst by nobodyman · · Score: 5, Interesting
    From Ebert, no less. To wit:
    Dunst is valuable, too, bringing depth and heart to a girlfriend role that in lesser movies would be conventional. When she kisses her astronaut boyfriend upside-down, it's one of those perfect moments that rewards fans of the whole saga; we don't need to be told she's remembering her only kiss from Spider-Man.

    True, she's been a lot of mediocre teen-movie fare, but to claim that she hasn't had a better performance since Interview with a Vampire indicates to me reviewer hasn't seen Drop Dead Gorgeous.
  11. Re:Despite Kirsten Dunst?!?! by Montag2k · · Score: 5, Funny

    What is this, Fark?

  12. Typo... by telstar · · Score: 5, Funny
    "some of us have seen it a bit early"
    • I think you meant to say 'some of us have seen it a bit
    • torrent early'

  13. Re:Kirsten in Spider-Man by DataPath · · Score: 5, Funny

    It's kinda like Drew Barrymore always talking out the side of her mouth.

    You don't notice it until it's pointed out to you, and once you notice, you can't tear your eyes away from it.

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  14. plagarism from CHUD? by doublephaeton · · Score: 5, Informative

    http://www.chud.com/reviews/spid2.php3

    seems to me bonch just copy/pasted this article in its entirety, without giving any credit to the chud guys, who did the real work!

  15. Re:Kirsten in Spider-Man (OT) by ckaminski · · Score: 5, Funny

    Thanks. Now you've done it. You've destroyed two perfectly good sex-pots with your nitpicking... Thanks.

    May you both rot in hell. ;-)

  16. In my experience, pretty good actress by Goonie · · Score: 5, Interesting
    I'd have to say that as well as being cute, she has been a convincing performer in a number of films playing different types of characters:
    • The Virgin Suicides: hard to judge, given her main job was to sit there and look stunningly beautiful in a just-post-Lolita kind of way.
    • Drop Dead Gorgeous: She played an ambitious small-town goody-two-shoes teen for comedy; was pretty effective in perhaps not the most challenging role.
    • Dick: playing a very dumb blonde teenager in a slightly more exaggerated manner; also very believable.
    • The Cat's Meow: playing comic actress (and mistress of Randolph Hearst) Marion Davies on a cruise where their relationship came under strain, slightly miscast (she was too young) but did a fair job in a role that required a fair range.
    • Spiderman: serviceable in a wallpaper role.
    • Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind: meaty supporting role of a naive secretary; makes a major plot twist look convincing. Good work.

    So, overall, in the things I've seen her in she's been a pretty good performer. I certainly can't recall a performance where she's been a shocker.

    In any case, bad directing can make even the best actor look bad. Natalie Portman, besides being achingly beautiful, is a fine actor, and let's consider just how wooden a performance she gave in Attack of the Clones. It'll be interesting 20 years from now to interview her about working with Lucas; I think she might be less than complimentary.

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  17. Re:Spiderman Review? by orthogonal · · Score: 5, Informative

    Bonch, aka Overly Critical Guy, who keeps proclaiming he hates the bias of Slashdot and all the people the comment here, has submitted a review here. Talk about interesting personality conflict.

    I didn't know trolls submitted articles these days.


    Trolls submit articles.

    But trolls don't write articles.

    THIS REVIEW IS PLAIGARISM, PURE AND SIMPLE

    bonch (38532) did write this review.

    Unless bonch's name is really Devin Faraci, "bonch's" review is cut-and-pasted from chud.com.

  18. Re:Fun, but a downloader folks.. (minimal spoilage by aixou · · Score: 5, Funny

    It appears that one of the basic requirements for writing a film these days (and I like to write) is to have not only no knowledge of science

    It's a friggin movie about a highschool student that has the powers of a spider!

    and you're banging off about realism?!

  19. Re:The Importance of Being Earnest by blankinthefill · · Score: 5, Insightful

    While you got the gist of the story correct, you are off on the names/details. Algernon is from the city, and he has invented the concept of "Bunburying". He has created an imaginary friend that lives in the country named Bunbury, who is often incapacitated. Algernon then has an excuse to go to the country (where he ends up with Jacks young ward). Jack is from the country, and creates the persona of Ernest so that he can end up meeting a girl he has fallen in love with. Ernest, if you didn't guess it, is the same as Bunbury. Long story short, both Algernon and Jack end up taking on the differing persona of Ernest, and the two women that they have fallen in love with end up in a tangle of confusion, because of the mix-up of having two Ernests. The play is a social commentary on many things, not the least of which is the foolishness of a name (which some here would do well to recognize), and was definitely put in the movie for a reason, in my opinion, if not for more than one.

  20. Re:Kirsten in Spider-Man by dopaz · · Score: 5, Funny

    Speak for yourself... Kathy Bates is one fine piece of ass.

  21. Re:Kirsten in Spider-Man by takshaka · · Score: 5, Funny

    Kathy Bates is at least three fine pieces of ass.