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Spider-Man 2 Reviewed [updated]
Update: 06/30 15:42 GMT by T : This article has been pulled; the Spider-Man 2 review which appeared here was reposted without credit or permission from chud. (Read it in its original context.) We welcome original feature-length articles, but not plagiarism.
Spider-Man 2 seems like the next step in the slow death of the career of Kirsten Dunst
OK, she's not Meryl Streep, but she doesn't have to be; Kirsten has tremendous sex appeal--which more than compensates for her somewhat mediocre performance in Spider-Man.
Besides, I thought she was intense and believable in Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind.
Sigs cause cancer.
Yes, you are.
Trinity dies in the end.
Oops.
No weapon in the arsenals of the world is so formidable as the will and moral courage of free men.-Ronald Reagan
tells me this is going be a great movie and makes tons of money.
Bet this
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=112410&cid=
Read the reviews of the Star Trek/Star Wars remake and nearly split my sides laughing. Can't wait to see what they do with Harry Potter as well!
My rights don't need management.
Some reviews of Spider-man 2 have mentioned that Sam Raimi is not all that comfortable with CGI ... which means that he tends to focus more on the human element rather than the blockbuster aspects of a movie. Given the depth of Peter Parker as a character, this seems like a reasonable trade off that helps make this better than the "typical" comic hero movie ...
Heckboy, perhaps?
And the brethren went away edified.
This is a guy on slashdot.... he should be praised for recognizing a female in the movie at all. After all, there were comic book characters and electronics everywhere in this flick... im suprised he even noticed her.
She must have had alot to do with the comic book characters and electronics, now that i think of it. If I mentioned a hot blonde int he movie, he'd probably reply, "oh the one being saved by that awesome spidey from that no good doc oc.... badass, yeah I sort of remember her".
There's nothing Intelligent about Intelligent Design.
...(I'm sorry, I still miss his original partner, Gene Siskel)
Anyway, Ebert said it is probably the best superhero|hero movie ever made.
I don't like his tv show now that his original parter, Gene Siskel, who was my favorite - one of the reasons I went to that section of the Chicago Tribune (I live in Indy) first - to see what he'd written about current movies.
I'm certain we could come up with a ton of movies which would be considered superhero|hero movies, where some would be very esoteric to many who haven't had a variety of newspaper cartoons growing up; e.g., The Phantom, in the Trib. And Spiderman was also in the Trib until about the time I graduated from high shool.
Now let's try to keep our posts on topic instead of flaunting our opinions as if other people really give a damn.
You must be new here.
You are in a maze of twisty little passages, all alike.
I suspect he is trying to make up for the general dislike he has built up by spewing mindless teenage trolling into the mix. 'YHBT. YHL. HAND'
I think we need some new acronyms...
YATR - You *are* thirteen, right?
MSCYR - Mom Says Clean Your Room!
NIOTS - Nothing Interesting or Original To Say
Any more suggestions?
Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time.
-- Terry Pratchett, Hogfather
...is like complaining about a stripper's dancing ability.
For pretty much the same reason.
Also, the TomatoMeter is currently at 96 compared 89 for #1. This is always a very good indicator for me. I'm sure this movie will be great.
> For example the excellent train fight takes place on an elevated train in a part of the city where there are no elevated trains -- but it doesn't matter. The film makes it work, so that you don't even think about it
HOW THE HELL SHOULD I NOT THINK ABOUT AN ELEVATED TRAIN LINE WITH A DEAD END THAT WOULD THROW A BRAKELESS TRAIN RIGHT INTO FIFTH AVENUE!?!?!?!?!?!?!
also, they transformed spider-man into super-man!
- add eyeglasses to alternative identity. check
- not a smart ass. check
- CAN STOP A FSCKING TRAIN WITH ITS BARE HANDS! check
oh! the humanity!
Bonch, dude, you just spent 3 hours writing a review of a 2 hour film....
Kinda makes you wonder doesn't it?
There are two kinds of people in the world: Those with good memory.
I didn't really find the game all that exciting... It takes about 4hours to complete or so and it seemed to have alot of training wheels. For example web slinging is dependent on specific web spots clearly marked throughout the city, and you get a popup when you fight an arch foe showing you what moves you need to do to defeat 'em. Also your web fluid is unlimited, and your number of lives is unlimited. Dispite being geared tward the inexperenced gammer, I did find the Mysterio sequence to be the best, where you must navigate New York in the clouds broken up into levitating islands. All and all as far as theme games go it was acceptable, almost worth the $15.00 it's presently being sold for.
There is no sanctuary. There is no sanctuary. SHUT UP! There is no shut up. There is no shut up.
When will the Indian version hit theatres in America?
Creative Demolition
People, do *NOT* click on the last link. Mods, take note - browser breaker, standard pr0n and probable IE exploit (just crashes out the firefox tab, thankfully)
Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time.
-- Terry Pratchett, Hogfather
An examination of the source on the last link reveals IE exploit.
Might I also suggest finding out this guy's ISP and IP address, informing them, and prompting criminal proceedings?
I don't remember the exact progression (which came first, GG or HG?), but I do know that Harry takes up the mantle of the Green Goblin. The Hobgoblin was someone else (Googled for it). I thought there were only three Green Goblins (though I couldn't remember other than Norman and Harry). It looks like there were four of them. There were also four different Hobgoblins. Apparently villains in the Spider-Man mythos like to recycle old ideas (see the page above, there are several different iterations of a number of villains).
True, she's been a lot of mediocre teen-movie fare, but to claim that she hasn't had a better performance since Interview with a Vampire indicates to me reviewer hasn't seen Drop Dead Gorgeous.
The difference being comic books have always been considered nerd material. So news about a comic book movie is news for nerds.
While a completley biased "documentry" about a America is politcal news, it's not really nerd news. I mean, nerds care about politics, but so do business people, and blue collar workers etc. There is lots of news that is quite important, that doesn't make it to slashdot, because it's not nerd news, They have to keep relevant, or you end up with information overload
Berardinelli gave Spiderman 2 three stars out of four, which is a fairly solid recommendation.
Fair enough. I can see that you are thinking for yourself. Keep it up.
Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time.
-- Terry Pratchett, Hogfather
"Spider-Man 2 hits theaters tomorrow, though some of us have seen it a bit early."
Yeah my download finished yesterday.
"Derp de derp."
http://www.chud.com/reviews/spid2.php3
seems to me bonch just copy/pasted this article in its entirety, without giving any credit to the chud guys, who did the real work!
I don't know if the movie touches on the significance of MJ being in this play. It's one of Oscar Wilde's famous comedies, and it's all about the dangers of living a double life.
The short of it; a young country gent(Algernon) goes to city to flirt around and cause trouble, but when in the city goes by the name of Ernest so that no rumours of his city life make it back to his home in the country. One of Algernon's city friends, Jack, travels to the country to dally with Algernon's young ward, and he also uses the name Ernest. Combined with some witty dialogue, a good does of sarcasm, and some smacks at the upperclass, its probably one of Wilde's best works. And Oscar Wilde, along with GB Shaw should probably be up there with Shakespeare among England's finest playwrights.
Summary here
Full text here
If it follows the usual pattern for superhero flicks, Spiderman 3 will have several villains and not just the 2nd Green Goblin. Remember how many bad guys show up in Batman and Robin or Batman Forever? Let's see, we have the Rhino, Sandman, Mysterio and Electro from the early Spiderman comics, or Venom the living spidy suit from the later years. Or maybe Spiderman 3 will also be X-men 3.
Earrghh! I thought I'd outgrown this stuff 20 years ago. Why do I even remember the names of a bunch of Spiderman villians?
Who is John Cabal?
Thanks. Now you've done it. You've destroyed two perfectly good sex-pots with your nitpicking... Thanks.
;-)
May you both rot in hell.
I saw it yesterday and the thing that stands out most in my mind, granted I'm a geek, but when the fusion reaction goes out of control -- critical in fact, and starts magnetically sucking all metal towards itself and fusionically threatens the entire city!?
That's right, I said fusion.
It appears that one of the basic requirements for writing a film these days (and I like to write) is to have not only no knowledge of science, but preferably a vacous gaping city sucking fusion orb where even the most basic science knowledge should be.
Also a complete lack of knowledge of trains is helpful. You might notice an elevated line that is built to go two stories to a dead end at... THE RIVER. Exactly where are the engineers? The physicists? Were you all killed by Doctor Octopus?
And where is Ozcorp getting its never ending funding from? Why wasn't this stock shorted by everyone after their CHIEF SCIENTIST went nuts in the last movie and started killing people? These are details that could have been written into the film, but instead are just thrown away in favor of cliches. The other things that actually save this film from the dreck pile are 1) the performance of J.K. Simmons (the angry editor guy), who once again steals every scene that he's in, on top of being strongly written. (every time that Tobey is in the newspaper office he might as well be invisible.) Meanwhile, Alfred Molina (Doctor Octopus) does a stellar job with second rate lines. Now he is an interesting character -- and, unlike spidey, his CG didn't look fake. Why not make a film about him rather than the bland kid in the spider suit?
Romance is one of the things that saves this film -- because make no mistake about it it's the exact same formula that you've seen and know and love. If you like that film that you've seen a dozen times -- this is it too! Now with extra romance. It's fun for what it is, but don't expect more than cliches.
Is it just me, or isn't there so much more that could be done with film?
The baby's fine -- please stop sending business cards.
While Hellboy certainly wasn't of Spiderman caliber, I feel that neither the $2 nor the two hours I spent to see it were wasted. Yeah, it's a campy low-budget film, but it aint bad for all that. I'll go to the sequel.
DRM 'manages access' in the same way that a prison 'manages freedom'
why dont you just marry spiderman...
sure, it probably is one great movie..but still, that review sounded way over the top
So, overall, in the things I've seen her in she's been a pretty good performer. I certainly can't recall a performance where she's been a shocker.
In any case, bad directing can make even the best actor look bad. Natalie Portman, besides being achingly beautiful, is a fine actor, and let's consider just how wooden a performance she gave in Attack of the Clones. It'll be interesting 20 years from now to interview her about working with Lucas; I think she might be less than complimentary.
Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from a rigged demo
--Andy Finkel (J. Klass?)
A ton of credit has to go to Bill Pope, who has shot himself
Bonch, aka Overly Critical Guy, who keeps proclaiming he hates the bias of Slashdot and all the people the comment here, has submitted a review here. Talk about interesting personality conflict.
I didn't know trolls submitted articles these days.
Trolls submit articles.
But trolls don't write articles.
THIS REVIEW IS PLAIGARISM, PURE AND SIMPLE
bonch (38532) did write this review.
Unless bonch's name is really Devin Faraci, "bonch's" review is cut-and-pasted from chud.com.
Opinions on the Twiddler2 hand-held keyboard?
It appears that one of the basic requirements for writing a film these days (and I like to write) is to have not only no knowledge of science
It's a friggin movie about a highschool student that has the powers of a spider!
and you're banging off about realism?!
My god you are right... that's just pathetic on the part of the poster, and he should be banned/suspended from Slashdot for posting this as if it were his work.
Plus it was a crap review anyway as it did what I HATE in reviews which is giving away some of the best bits. ie. "And the humour was supurb like when he turned into a chicken and ate all the guest's dinners"... that may not be in this film, but you get my drift, I was reading through the review, got to a spoiler of what would have been a great SUPRISE joke and stopped dead right there...
Geeze, how hard is it to write a review that doesn't reveal jokes or plot points? Why can't people stay more generic? X's acting was Good/bad/indifferent, the CG of Y was not so hot, or was during running but crap during swinging. Etc. etc. It's NOT THAT HARD.
That's incredible! You're right that the review is cut-and-pasted. I hate to say it but this is a great example of how /. needs to have a way to moderate stories off the front page.
-wilde_karrde
Something to make sure that every slashdoter world wide will continue to worship at the idol of K. Dunst.
http://www.imdb.com/gallery/granitz/0189-sta/du
Ahhh geek sheek, you can't resist a nerd chick!
I would rather be ashes than dust!
fellow Spiderman fans.
Did anyone else catch Jameson's son doing that huge leap to get to MJ near the end?
I am convinced its a nod to showing him having the symbiot in him (from the cartoon, not the comic books) where I believe he contracted it while in space.
Anyway, I think for a sequel (or triquel?) now that we have:
A) love interest issues resolved (no more harping over MJ)
B) identity issue resolved
We need something to spice it up some more. We obviously have the green goblin 2 coming in the next one, but what about Venom? Any thoughts on this? (i may have the names mixed up, it's been a while since i've read the comics / cartoons).
your right.
./ can't support this crap. pull the review or credit the author!
But strippers don't have their mammas chaperoning the clubs to make sure the bad bad directors don't get too much boobie in the shots.
The smartest thing Kirsten's mother ever did was put the 't' on the end of their family name.
Stan Lee (As) Man Dodging Debris.
I'm glad he made it into the film again.
Spider-Man 2 is certainly the movie that pays off all the promise Sam Raimi has held for the past few decades.
Whassat? I think that you just unintentionally implied that Army of Darkness was not the greatest movie of all time!
The only thing that we learn from history is that nobody learns anything from history.
If you want to get technical, Spidey has fought every Marvell villain. He has fought Dr Doom, Sentinels, Galactus, and most of the heroes.
BTW, it is the Lizard, not LizardMan. But the Lizard is almost definately to be in the third. Most likely Venom will never play a role.
For the special effects, Hydro or Sandman would be good choices.
Just a Tuna in the Sea of Life
Spider-Man 2 succeeds in many ways that I did not expect, justifying my decision to watch the midnight showing and stay up past 4:00am to write a small review for my web site!
... not for shooting spider webs out of wrists, but for the human element. Above all else and beneath the mask, Spider-Man is Peter Parker, an emotional, rational being like the rest of us. He has decisions to make, and whether they make sense or even matter to anyone else, they matter to Peter Parker.
... before we are rushed through an action-packed, emotional frenzy that climaxes with one of the most satisfying endings I have ever enjoyed for what I would normally describe as an entertainment film (as opposed to being a serious film).
I was surprised by how much I enjoyed Spider-Man 2. A sequel is supposed to dwell in the shadow of its predecessor, but this one does not. Spidey is beaten and humbled -- by enemies, friends, the public, and himself -- and yet he still comes across as one of the most realistic heroes imaginable
The key to this film's success, aside from Tobey Maguire's excellent portrayal of a hero torn among many difficult choices, is Sam Raimi's ability to open and close numerous plot elements while maintaining a coherent and cohesive plot. The movie takes its sweet time to inform you of what has changed, who is important, and why it is all so
I must say, this movie comes damned close. Through the first two-thirds of the movie, I kept turning to my friend and asking, "Are we supposed to feel THIS SORRY for him?" However, the ending was a big payoff, set up by Peter Parker's suffering throughout the beginning and middle. I was practically cheering when he turns around without his mask on after convincing Doc Ock to drown the reactor, and Mary Jane finally sees his true identity. Likewise I was almost yelling "YOU DUMBASS!" at the screen when he gives her his "we can't be together, too risky, blah blah blah" speech, but that in turn just helps to provoke her to leave Jameson's son at the altar. At the very end, there's all this depressing stuff (Harry becomes the Goblin, Aunt May loses her house, Jameson's son gets stiffed) but all you're focused on is Peter Parker, finally redeemed, in love, and swinging between towers as Spider-Man. That feeling of total empathy with Spider-Man is what makes the movie so great.