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Linux vs. Windows: What's The Difference?
underpar writes "This zdnet article covering Microsoft's Tech Ed conference quotes one of the speakers, Mark Russinovich, as saying that Linux is becoming more and more like Windows. He cites many examples of where Linux 'copies' Windows and other operating systems. He says the only current difference is 'how windowing is handled.'"
Another non backed attack.
you and cmdr taco like men
Next time, RTFA before rushing in with your soapbox...
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Dirty GNU hippies
For me, it had little to do with the politics and ethos of the open source movement.
Translation: I'm an asshat who thinks that smaller companies with less money will actually give a shit about me. I also think I am special.
In terms of use Linux and Windows are the same:
They are horrible to use.
That is why OS X is so good.
Yep, us stupid Windoze lusers aren't clever enough to recompile our kernels every 24 minutes, so we have to install ready-made software that just works instead. What a stoopid idea. :-)
If you disagree, post your argument. (-1, Overrated) isn't your personal censorship tool for views you don't like.
bah... :-)
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Try this one (both in Linux and in Windows and see which one runs it
If you mod me down, I *will* introduce you to my sister!
this guy is a tard, the is a huge fucking difference between linux and windows. Maybe not for playing minesweeper, but if you ever actually do anything with the two, you will see the differnce.
Selling software wont make you money, selling a service will.
Microsoft Windows XP [Version 5.1.2600]
(C) Copyright 1985-2001 Microsoft Corp.
C:\Documents and Settings\Homer>wmic
wmic:root\cli>?
? - Alias not found.
wmic:root\cli>help
help - Alias not found.
wmic:root\cli>1
1 - Alias not found.
wmic:root\cli>cd
cd - Alias not found.
wmic:root\cli>quit
C:\Documents and Settings\Homer>man wmic
'man' is not recognized as an internal or external command,
operable program or batch file.
"He's lost in a 'floyd hole"
I'd consider this a troll. Cygwin is a RedHat port creating a Unixy environment in Windows. That is it is nothing more than a defective Linux that sort of works on Windows. Calls are wrapped... Its like arguing Linux features by using Wine.
The rest of your post has already been responded to elsewhere, but...
Windows has shipped with a C sharp compiler installed by default for the last three years.
Also, the next version of Windows has a better shell than Unix, as it seperates content from presentation, making things more obout objects than text. You can downlaod a working beta of this shell now if you like.
The main diference I find between Linux is:
* Execute permission is turned off by default for new files in Linux, making life harder for worms.
* Packaging is more popular on Linux (eliminating the need to download and run said executables). Verification rocks too.
* Less 'brick-wall' troubleshooting (you can get access to the source, and there's better diagnostic tools out of hte box for Linux. Note I didn't say these weren't available for Windows.
* No loss of data when you save to XML with Openoffice, versus Office 2003 (where the native file format will lose data when saved to XML).
* its a fuckload easier to interoperate with something that's not proprietary.
I'm posting this so that you (the moderator) have some context to consider twitter and not mod him up whenever he posts his filler preformatted rants about installing Knoppix or Mepis or whatever that unfortunately get him karma every single time and allow him to continue posting his trademark toxic crap (read on) day in and day out. You may consider this a troll - I consider it community service. And I ain't kidding.
If you're a /. subscriber, I invite you to look through some of his posting history. I guarantee that you'll be hard pressed to find someone that is more "out there" than twitter. You'll also probably notice he's got quite an AC following. Don't just read his posts, make sure you go through the replies.
To get an idea of what I'm talking about, check this post out. This is an article about email disclaimers. The parent of the post is complaining about the ads in the linked page and so on, and twitter actually goes off on a rant to blame it on Microsoft and recommend Lynx, because "is teh free".
Here's another. In this post twitter not only calls the OP a troll but attempts to "tell it like it is" while making some vague argument about "GNU". Yes, if you're confused, you're not alone. The reply (modded +4) proceeds to simply destroy his bogus argument. You will notice he did not reply. This is what some people call "drive-by advocacy". A sort of I'll just leave you with my thoughts here and move on to the next flamebait kind of deal. In fact, he almost never replies because he knows that his fanatical arguments simply do not hold up to any sort of discussion. It's not that he's chosen the wrong cause - he's just going at it in a completely wrong way.
Here's that drive-by advocacy and FUD in motion: twitter goes on about some topic and then drops the usual "oh and M$ is teh evil" because "WMP phones home" or some such. Called on his FUD, he then claims that WMP stores every song and movie you've ever played in a file, somewhere. Pressed further, he just sort of slithers out of sight, his FUD-spreading complete. This is not about some Microsoft technology that nobody likes anyway; it's about lying for the sake of lying. Way too many of his posts are exactly like this one.
More? Just read though this post and the subsequent replies. I guess this stands on its own. Or these two. Or this one. Or this one.
Still not convinced? This is what twitter considers "humour" while going about his daily "M$" routine.
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These compilers are not free, because to use them you have to invest in a windows operating system.
.NET development environment has many other costs. A responsible manager considers the Total Cost of Ownership when choosing a development language and environment.
Then there are the hidden cost of insecurity. Furthermore there is a very real cost to everyone of purchasing from a (convicted) monopolist.
Coding in a free (as in speech) environment is more cost effective, because you can find why something is not working. If you go with Microsoft you often lose days trying to find a work-around for a bug, because your only tools are trial and error.
So choosing the
So, you fail to see how being forced to install applications that you don't want, and can't uninstall limits your choice?
I give up. You're obviously perfectly reasonable and sane. You win.
It's really funny that you need Free Software to make Windows usable. Heck, I am currently forced to work on Win32 (Metroworks Codewarrrior for Symbian OS only exists for this platform), and it would be impossible to survive (for me) on Win32 without cygwin, vim, gimp2, putty, Thunderbird, Firefox and gaim.
A monkey is doing the real work for me.
You said:
They made their billions, they should be happy with that, anyone else certainly would be, for the sheer volume of non work they did to make all that loot.
Google says:
define:loot
steal goods; take as spoils; "During the earthquake people looted the stores that were deserted by their owners" www.cogsci.princeton.edu/cgi-bin/webwn
How did MS steal the money they have? People bought their product as an act of free will. Accusing someone of a crime they didn't commit is, in fact, libel. You have just exposed yourself to a justified law suit for damages. Congratulations! I hope against hope that you will have to pay for your stupidity.
Complaining about software MS doesn't ship is pure irony. Why just the other day the mighty US american court system decided that not even a webbrowser belongs to an OS. The EU found that preinstalling MediaPlayer is such a crime that MS should pay millions of dollars to soothe the pain inflicted on unsuspecting EU citizens. So lets hear your complains again: antivir? free? Symantec certainly would sue instantly. firewall? Also free? Ha, I can see the headlines 'Microsofts decision to bundle a free firewall with exceeding functionality with its Windows products is just another ploy against their competition'.
One other thing: When windows was even more dominant then today, you and your zealot friends claimed that consumers had no choice. You justified your claims by noting that consumers didn't choose what you thought best for them. Now people are switching because linux merits it for them. And all you can do is to devalue that by interpreting it as malice against MS. Regular consumers are not feeling the same hatred as you do. They evaluate different options and decide what is best for them. They don't want to afford an ideology, the roots and aims of which only matter to a small percentage of technicals and users. This was true before linux came to play on the desktop or server market and it is still true now.
Also, especially nations are known to routinely make very bad choices.
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No power in the 'verse can stop me
For a great example of this on film I suggest you watch Fahrenheit 9/11.