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Comparing Internet Cafe Rates Worldwide

tcd004 writes "I recently began compiling the hourly rates from Internet cafes around the world into a map. The result reveals wildly different prices, even in countries with similar economic conditions and technological development. This often puts access out of reach for large populations in developing countries who live on less than $1 per day. It seems government policies and telecom deregulation (in countries like Nigeria) are often the strongest forces determining a cafe's hourly rates. If you want to do some of your own rate hunting, take a look at sites like Cybercafes.com."

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  1. Government Subsidies by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    What's interesting is that internet cafes in a number of the countries with low rates (Pakistan $0.60, Ghana $0.60, Indonesia $0.66, and Turkey $0.50) use government subsidies to keep their rates down. Ghana, in particular, has done this as they believe that increased exposure to the outside world will help encourage its citizens to become literate.

    1. Re:Government Subsidies by daveo0331 · · Score: 5, Funny

      Ghana, in particular, has done this as they believe that increased exposure to the outside world will help encourage its citizens to become literate.

      I take it Ghana has never heard of AOL.

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    2. Re:Government Subsidies by base3 · · Score: 3, Interesting

      And the nice thing about subsidies, from the government's point of view, is that it makes an easy segway to regulation and monitoring.

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  2. ALLOW ME TO INTRODUCE MYSELF by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    I AM THE SON OF A WEALTHY INTERNET CAFE GENERAL...i have a vast fortune that needs to be transfered out of the country...

  3. Finally by otisaardvark · · Score: 4, Funny

    We can start compiling better (and statistically, better 'weighted') indicators of PPP than the incredibly successful (but somewhat outdated) Big Mac Index.

  4. No Korea? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I can't believe South Korea was skipped in this survey. They have one of the highest rates of internet cafes of any country I've ever been too. And they're really cheap to boot.

  5. Nice Cybercafe Listing by Globe199 · · Score: 5, Informative

    Crappy cybercafe listing on Cybercafes.com. It still lists Cyber X in Minneapolis. That place has been out of business for many years.

    The site doesn't even have a function to add or modify listings. All it has is a banner ad for cheese!

    Globe199

  6. Speaking of which by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting
    Why do some ISPs etc. block e-mails sent from IPs of cybercafes that have been sent using the webmail service of a completely different website? It's fustrating when being on holiday and sending an e-mail to a friend, only to have it bounce because it was mistaken for spam. Sometimes, the e-mails don't even bounce, so you're not sure if your friend got it. ARGH!

    Yes, I know that spammers use Internet cafes to do their dirty deeds, but the spam-filters should somehow have the ability to detect a genuine e-mail sent using the webmail service.

  7. I walk by several Internet cafés every day... by tuxette · · Score: 3, Interesting
    ...but I have no idea what their prices are as I have ADSL at home and thus have no need for such services. If I had to, I would look up prices for someone or other...

    Prices at Internet cafés are perhaps more interesting for tourists than anyone else. Then again, isn't the point of being on holiday to get away from it all, including (and especially?) the computer?

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  8. In countries with $1/day salaries by MarvinMouse · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I think those people have more serious issues than not being able to access the Internet. Sure, they cannot afford to view the internet, but the bigger question, is can they even afford to clothe themselves, eat, and have proper housing? When those three issues are resolved, then we should worry about the cost of internet cafes there.

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  9. eZinternet Cafe by djtripp · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I love their sliding scale. When it's dead, you can get an hour for like 1 euro. If it's packed and super busy, it's 5-10 euro and hour.

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  10. Australia? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Interesting

    That's an odd graph. Australia's rates show up as $7.50US an hour, that's over $10 AUS an hour.

    I've never seen internet cafe rates that high here, the most I've paid is $5AUS an hour, and that was in a music store that also provided free coffee.

  11. I'd suggest... by Otter · · Score: 3, Insightful
    This is contrary to what seems to be the political slant of that site, but it seems to me that drawing conclusions about the affordabilty of Internet access by looking at the poorest of the poor in a given country seems unproductive.

    1) In the short- and medium-term, the question is what kind of access middle-class and upper-class people have. There seems to be some obsession with getting illiterate farmers technology that the average person in wealthy countries doesn't have, but to my mind that's far less relevant than the overall level of computer use and access.

    2) This analysis also ignores numbers. A single, dirt-cheap cyber-cafe provides far less access than 50 expensive, well-maintained ones, and it's the higher prices that allow greater numbers and decent tech and maintenance. Again, I suspect I'm going against the political grain of that site by saying so.

  12. Numbers are way off for India by InfiniteWisdom · · Score: 4, Informative

    At least in Bomba, where I lived till 2002, cyber cafes cost a lot less than the $1.35 claimed... Rs.60/hour. I think Rs.25-30 is more typical.

    That said, maybe its different in smaller cities where cable/DSL isn't available, adn competition hasn't driven down ISP charges as much

  13. Not accurate by allanpatrick · · Score: 5, Informative

    In Brazil, at least where I live, its hard to find a cybercafe that costs more than $1/hour.

  14. South Korea by tuxette · · Score: 4, Interesting
    I was told by someone who had been in South Korea that Internet cafés there are what bookstores were in the 90s. Pickup/meeting places. Not sure if that's true or not.

    Over here in Oslo, I see lots of Internet cafés and they're almost always empty.

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    1. Re:South Korea by moondo · · Score: 3, Informative

      Internet cafes in South Korea have been around for a long time and their prices vary. Prices are different because they give you different choices of service. I don't know what it's like at the moment but I lived there till 2002. Usually it would be about $.75 an hour(or 1000 won) and prices wouldn't rise because there were so many internet cafes that competition was tight. I remember in some places you could do an all-nighter for about $5 (2002), or in some other places you paid about $10 and you got 12+ hours and the employee would make you a nice bowl of ramen to enjoy while chatting.

      The internet cafes became what's called a 'pc bang' or a 'game bang' ('bang' means room in korea; i.e. game room). The computers in many pc bangs have good specifications in order to stay on top of the competition. I love the concept because it is so easy to arrange a night out with your friends for fragging or leveling up than doing a lan party. If one pc bang was full you just had to cross the street and go to the next one (there where many where I lived in Seoul).

      Often times members of different clans of any game (Quake, CS, Rainbow six, Diablo 2, Starcraft, you name it) arrange meetings in some pc bang and rent out a whole place to have a showdown. I attended one CS game session for a clan (not that I was that good) and it was a very friendly atmosphere and it was exciting to meet the guys (and chicks) you only knew the nicknames of on CS. But that's another story.

      Unfortunately, the pc bang can be used and is being used for grownups who chat with young highschool girls and 'pick' them up. I think it's terrible that there are people taking advantage of younger girls and luring them with money. It's sad to me that someone's willing to give away sex to some guy they meet for a few minutes online. But that's a moral story.

      Anyways, the pc bang is truly a place of social interaction or a place where you can be left alone to do your own thing. I hope this gave some insight.

  15. Re:In countries with $1/day salaries by arieswind · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Keep in mind that although they only make 1$/day, it probably costs a whole lot less to live in those countries, us americans have the highest cost of living in the world

  16. Several questions... by GillBates0 · · Score: 3, Insightful
    What do the Gray areas on the World Map indicate? Most of Europe is gray, and the key does not explain the meaning of this color.

    The page linked to from "under $1 a day" does not carry information/statistics about specific countries, but provides only an overview by continent. I'm a little skeptical about the "Percentage of population living below $1.00" - according to the map, only 5 countries: Nicaragua, India, Namibia, Ghana and Kenya qualify as "dark red". I would suspect this is not the case - Pakistan and other fareastern countries for example should be in this range, rather than the green (developed) range.

    And again, I'm not sure how useful the "under $1.00 per day" statistic is, because it most certainly does not take into consideration, the standard of living - a loaf of bread costs about $2.00 in the US and 25c in other countries I know.

    Just my vulcan $0.02.

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  17. Re:Is smoking allowed? by InfiniteWisdom · · Score: 3, Insightful

    How many businesses would let me stay if I came in and started spraying skunk-juice around? That is exactly the effect that smokers have on the rest of us. Just stand with a group of smokers for a while and your clothes, hair and everything are reeking of smoke for the rest of the day.

    You can smoke all you want... do it in a space suit so you don't stink up the place for the rest of us, mm kay?

  18. Some of these prices are misleadingly high by Ryu2 · · Score: 4, Informative

    $2.50/hr for China? Perhaps in hotels and other places that cater to businessmen or "rich" foreigners, but even in Beijing, in college areas, you can get online for 10 yuan (about $1.25)/hour at most. At some second-tier cities, the going rate is about 2 yuan (25 cents). You get exactly the same access -- the only difference is that you might be surrounded by smoking kids playing Counterstrike around you...

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  19. Serving Locals or Tourists...? by Bubblehead · · Score: 4, Informative
    I backpacked in Asia a few years ago, and it was great to have Internet access at reasonable prices virtually everywhere. But I had an interesting experience in Thailand (not covered by the comparison chart). Rates were around $1/hour. But then I visited the island Samui, where rates were $5. It was clear that (1) the main market were tourists, and (2) due to the small size of the island, a price cartel had formed.

    Just looking at the numbers, the article seems to capture non-tourist prices. But it's important not to forget that prices are often not based on real cost, but on the customer's willingness to pay.

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  20. Screw cyber cafes by Sparr0 · · Score: 4, Informative

    I travel on a regular basis and have to work away from my hotel for very long (but sparse) hours. This leaves me much free time where I wish I could get to a net connection. The solution? Public Libraries. Almost every library in the country even remotely close to a decent sized population will have some sort of internet connection available to patrons, for *FREE* 90% of the time.

  21. Responses by tcd004 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Just a quick response to many of the excellent points made in the comments so far:

    1. "Hey, I was in X country and the price was cheaper/more expensive!"
    Yes, prices vary dramatically across nearly every country. When we compiled this data we were seeking out numbers that best represented the most common price in a particular country. For instance, in Saudi Arabia, you can pay $15 U.S for access if you want, but you can also find places who offer it for $3. These numbers are in no way meant to accuraly represent every price of every internet cafe in every country.

    2. What do the grey areas represent? Aren't there more countries with high poverty levels?
    Grey countries were not included in this survey. Data may have existed for them, but this was originally published in print, and we had a limted amount of space. And yes, many, many other countries live on less than $1 per day. We simply picked a representative sampling.

    3. Why do people who live on $1 per day need to worry about internet access?

    Good question. First of all, don't literally think of "$1 per day" to mean just that. The point of this exercise was to show that Cafe prices don't often serve their local populations, due to the fact that they're too expensive. The $1 figure is simply an effective way to point out countries with large populations of people living in poverty.

    Why do poor people need the internet? Well, often the internet is considered to be a great democratizing and equalizing force. The people who most need equalizing are people who live in poverty. If they can't afford to get on the internet, then how is it improving their lives? Maybe through indirect means?

    In any case, our goal was simply to inspire people to ask questions like these. We seem to have been successful. Thanks for your comments!

    Tcd004

    1. Re:Responses by Mad+Bad+Rabbit · · Score: 4, Interesting

      It might be interesting to see a map in terms of the hours of work (at average local wages) required to
      purchase an hour of Internet cafe.

      I.e. in the U.S.A. (average wage ~ $15/hour), the cost would be 0.3 hours. In Namibia (average wage
      ~ $1/hour) the cost would be 2.5 hours, etc.

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      >;k
  22. Re:Hm.. by Dimensio · · Score: 4, Funny

    Good lord, no wonder they're scamming. They're not trying to get rich, they just don't have any other way to afford Internet connectivity!

    On the other hand, it does make me feel even better about baiting the scammers. Every minute wasted sending me email (even more when they send me silly pictures of themselves dumping water on their heads) is money that they've lost.

  23. How old is this information? by beanyk · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I looked at Ireland's entries on the world-wide map, and most of the prices seem to be quoted in Irish Pounds. Since Ireland's been using the euro exclusively for a year-and-a-half (I lose track, lving away from home), either (a) the info's out of date; (b) the contributers are using the pound symbol instead of the euro. Which is it?

    1. Re:How old is this information? by anticypher · · Score: 3, Informative

      The cybercafes.com site was created in about 1996, and abandoned in 2000, I think. I found cybercafes.com in my bookmarks of client sites from 1997, but the domain obviously changed hands since then. A quick glance through their database shows a couple of cafes I know haven't been around since 2000 or 2001. Their entries for Belgium and France still show francs for currency, so it isn't just Ireland.

      Its a cobweb site. Nothing to see here, move along, move along. There will be a repost of this article over the weekend by CmdrTaco.

      the AC

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  24. that's not completely true by alphan · · Score: 3, Informative
    I don't know about other countries, but I have a friend who owns an internet cafe in Turkey. I can say for sure there is no such direct support from the goverment.

    The reasons for low prices, however maybe related to the fact that minors go to internet cafes a lot to play Counter Strike, GTA etc. Obviously this is because, in Turkey, many houses don't have computer. As the minors are the main customer group, and they cannot effort expensive prices, I think math is clear.

    I should also mention that, my friend's internet cafe is always full during the summer. I don't know much about the school period though.

  25. Rate in Uzbekistan by suso · · Score: 4, Informative

    In Tashkent, Uzbekistan (right below Kazakstan) last December, I went into a cyber cafe that was $0.30/hour. I was impressed. But of course the average salary there is $50/month. Yes, per month. Average.

  26. The prices are all wrong by WeLoveRa · · Score: 3, Informative

    I've recently been to Chile and Russia and paid less than $1 an hour in each. Nowhere near the $3 listed. Where did these guys gather their information from, tourist hotels? No matter how poor the country, internet access can only get so cheap, you still need a computer which is likely imported. Elecronics always seem to be about the same price, no matter what country you're in.

  27. Easy in London by neonstz · · Score: 3, Informative

    I paid about 10 UK pounds (about $18 or something) for a week at Easy Internet Cafe in London a few years ago. No time limit other than that (they closed at 2AM).

  28. Re:In countries with $1/day salaries by MichiganDan · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Economic growth is the only way to raise standards of living in developing countries -- or any country for that matter. The Solow Growth Model explains that this is a function of capital-labor ratio and population growth, but technological growth can impact this as well.

    In order to have growth, access to the rest of the world is pretty much a prerequisite, as is some element of a knowledge economy. For these to occur, access to the Internet is essential the way that the telephone was 50 years ago.

    So Internet access impacts food, clothing, and shelter. Western countries can give handouts and solve the problem for the time being, or we can help promote Internet access and solve the problem permanently.

    Moreover, many people in the US and EU do not have enough food, clothing, or shelter. Does this mean that we should ignore science and technology until everybody does? No rational economist would argue this.

    There is a good deal of research that shows that deregulation of telecoms leads to wider access at lower prices. (Examples can be found in Turkey, Argentina, and Ghana.) So the best thing that developing countries can do is liberalize their telecom infrastructure and stimulate investment in telecoms and IT. Does this preclude subsidies? Of course not. We subsidize in the US and it's a good thing. And it's a good thing in developing countries.

  29. Ecuador by erykjj · · Score: 3, Informative

    about $0.80/hr

  30. Chile price inaccurate by Mateito · · Score: 3, Informative

    The prices in Chile are nowhere near US$300 an hour.

    In Santiago (the capital), internet access is around 400-600 pesos per hour. US$1 = CLP$650, so we are talking 60 - 90 US cents. I've also seen these rates on the beach side towns and in the south (on the Island of Chiloe, currently isolated from the mainland due to band weather, but still with reasonably priced internet).

    In places like San Pedro de Atacama in the North and Puerto Natales in the South, both remote places heavily infested with gringo touriests, you might push $1000 an hour, so US$1.50 max.

  31. Answers by tcd004 · · Score: 3, Informative

    For nearly every country we collected prices from at least 10 cafes. We eliminated the most expensive and least expensvie cafes, based on the assumption that these prices reflected tourist-type locations. (note that many "back-alley" or "grey market" cafes probably didn't make our study. These locations often have lower prices) At this point, we found it would be innacurate to take an average of the remaining prices. (the averages were too often different from the most common price, since even the prices left varied widely. So, we used the most common value or mode.

    The $1 figure is from the United Nations Millenium Development Goals Indicators database.

  32. Its cheap here! (some things) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

    Here in Venezuela the rate is 0.60$ (without subsidies)

    Gasoline costs 0.03$ per liter (gasoline is cheaper than coke and water).

    A BigMac costs 2$ (too expensive for the crap you get).

    A Whoper costs 3$ (this is a good meal).

    A Grand Cherokee Limited 2004 costs NaN$ (30,000$ basic model, ouch!)

    BTW, the minimum wage is 90$ a month, a graduated computer engineer (at least me!) makes 6,000$ a year.