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Senate Takes Aim At P2P Providers
thejoelpatrol writes "The Senate Judiciary Committee, led by everybody's favorite senator, Orrin Hatch, is moving to outlaw P2P entirely by making it illegal to produce such applications. Hatch says such firms 'think that they can legally profit by inducing children to steal. Some think they can legally lure children into breaking the law with false promises of "free music."' So, when was the last time that Kazaa told kids to steal music? Shouldn't the parents be the ones looking out for their kids? The RIAA is (surprise!) in favor of this, while P2P groups are (surprise!) opposed."
Yes please, will somebody think of the children. They must be protected.
You know, client/server apps can distribute stuff illegally too! Heck, why not outlaw stores and banks, because people can steal things from them! They're effectively encouraging you to take the money from the vault!
ARGH!
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This makes me sick! We better outlaw the production of any software that plays MP3s as well, since they are accessories to the crime of stealing music. Oh, and CD burners, and operating systems, can PCs and phone and cable lines. In fact, someone had just better come over to my house and arrest me right now. Sheesh!
Don't be a looter...and yes, I know that it's spelled with an "A" instead of an "E".
> This is just ridiculous
Hey - it worked for viruses and drugs...
Let's just cut to the fucking chase and outlaw music altogether. That's what my parents always did; if you can't play nice, we're taking the toys.
...when peer-to-peer is outlawed, only outlaws will have peers. At least, non-government-sanctioned peers.
"I don't get it." -- ObviousGuy
If the statistics tells us anything it's that: People don't kill people Americans kill people.
Actually scratch that, how about one that prevents him from proposing any bills whatsoever? The guy certainly seems to need a cooling off period.
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" Gun manufacturers are not responsible for the actions of the people that use their products, but P2P vendors are?"
Yeah, but what good will P2P do you when the King of England starts pushing you around? Well? That's what I thought.
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Kazaa doesn't steal music, people do...
You can take my limewire from my cold dead hands...
Not to mention awesome statistics like... More music gets stolen every day by bootlegging operations than by p2p users.
Fun Stuff!
They are out there every day making deliciously evil candy that entices kids to get in the car with strangers. This must be stopped!
Or even better, we could start eliminating kids that are likely to code such appliations in the future!
:-)
I bet RIAA would be in favor of that as well
Probable impossibilities are to be preferred to improbable possibilities.
Aristotele
No, no, it's not a firewall, it's a freedom wall!
The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing. --Edmund Burke
That's exactly what honorable senator Orrin Hatch is talking about. These companies are leeches which have sunk their sharp parasite teeth deep into SCO's intellectual property.
You can also induce fear in the target by not actually hitting him.
.45 can seriously wound a bear, and easily kill a deer.
High calibre handguns are also useful for shooting animals. A
Suffice it to say, one shot to a limb of a human and it is gone.
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That's right, give the bastard ideas
Technoli
Maybe if I drove round and sang the songs, he'd outlaw me singing. Maybe that wouldn't be a bad thing.
...am I supposed to be for or against Orrin Hatch now? ;)
Kjella
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The Senate Judiciary Committee, led by everybody's favorite senator, Orrin Hatch, is moving to outlaw knives entirely by making it illegal to produce such instruments. Hatch says such firms 'think that they can legally profit by inducing children to kill. Some think they can legally lure children into breaking the law with false promises of "free stabbing."'
I will just move my spam operations to, where do you live again?
We've been trying that forever. For some reason the football team seems to let a few geeks through each year. We need to improve the systems we have, not make new ones!
And with the Internet routing around it (perhaps through Belgium?), it can be no more effective than the Maginot Line.
I'll have some "freedom fries" with that, please... ;-)
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Timmy might be a bully now, keeping all the juiceboxes for him, but 15 years down the road he'll be a law abiding citizen.
And a paid lobbyist for the RIAA and the MPAA.
This just in: The Senate Judiciary Committee, is moving to outlaw UUCP. It's obvious that UUCP is stealing profits from legit copyright holders. In the interest of protecting children we owe it to them to free the computers of these malicious functions. From this day forward computers will not be allowed to be networked.
In another not so surprising argument : the copy command (Ctrl-c) and the equally insidious Paste (Ctrl-v) command illegally lure children into breaking the law. The Senate Judiciary Committee has also made a move to ban these commands for all non Gov't purposes.
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OB
Timmy might be a bully now, keeping all the juiceboxes for him, but 15 years down the road he'll be a law abiding citizen.
You mean he'd be a corporate manager?
Or even better, we could start eliminating kids that are likely to code such appliations in the future!
:-)
= Intellectual people.
I bet RIAA would be in favor of that as well
Heh, the RIAA is like a crossbreed between Mao Tse Dong and Gestapo.
Ein Volk, Ein Reich, Nicht P2P?
GAAH! MY PRINTER IS ON FIRE!!! PUT IT OUT! PUT IT OUT!
Imagine what you could say...
Digital cameras have a "portrait" mode, and they can be used to take pictures of naked kids, so are digital camera manufacturers inducing people into making kiddie porn? Yes! We *must* ban these evil devices!
My stereo has a dual tape deck with a fast-dubbing feature, so is it encouraging me to copy tapes? Yes! We have to ban *these* too!
...and so on. GET A CLUE: BAN THE ACTION (PIRATING/STEALING/SHARING/LIBERATING MUSIC), NOT THE METHOD!
Look at murder: Only items with a purpose completely dedicated to hurting people (guns, etc...) are regulated. I can kill someone with a pair of scissors, but they're not banned because you can kill people with them! <sarcasm>OH, won't someone PLEASE think of the children?!</sarcasm>
But I digress...
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Shouldn't the parents be the ones looking out for their kids?
Shortly before Napster got the axe I showed my mom how to use it. I explained to her both sides of the digital music argument and let her do as she wished. She downloaded more music in week then I could have ever imagined. For the first time in her life she thought the computer was actually a useful invention.
While I was at my parents house for the 4th she asked me if I could put that "music program" on my dads computer. So I explained what happened with Napster, and how there was a risk of being sued by the RIAA for downloading music now. I told her that it just wasn't a good idea any more, and she says "Damnit, I really wish it wasn't illegal".
AC
"I'm not saying anyone SHOULD kill Orrin Hatch, but if they did... I'D UNDERSTAND".
(Very sad that in this world I feel the need to post anonymously, lest an FBI battering ram find it's way through my front door ten minutes from now)
I may be flamebait but the solution is to tell this country to kiss your human ass. Remember, without us, the government has no one to control. Reminds me of the matrix eh? :). People bitch, moan, complain, and so on that the government controls them. Is it so friggin hard to tell them off and get together and make your own country, state, or whatever? For christ sakes people, we are advanced beings being owned by stupid government people who have no clue what life is about. FIX IT!!!
And if anyone from the government cares to sue me, start by e-mailing me at dmarescajr@gmail.com, my name is Daniel Maresca Jr. COME GET SOME!
Uploads are the problem! We should just get rid of the upload pipe altogether. All users should only be able to download content off commercial websites. There is no reason to have an upload pipe at all. What do normal users have to share anways? We should put at stop to it. Make all ISPs have a cap at 0kbps u/l. ...oh, the internet won't work then? No one could get to a webpage? check e-mail? download applications? secure themselves with MS Updates!? No Porn?!! ::cough:: well then...
On the serious side... this is absurd. There is NO way to share a quicktime trailer over the internet that I can't grab to my own harddrive. No way to make a picture over the internet that I can't grab. If I can "see" it, I can have it, no, I DO have it. The internet is just one giant P2P network - data flows in both ways. Sometimes it's not the data you want but you don't destroy the network to stop the data from flowing.
this is absurd
I wonder if being forced to read your report aloud to the class can be considered a violation of a kids intellectual property rights.
perl -e 'print $i=pack(c5, (41*2), sqrt(7056), (unpack(c,H)-2), oct(115), 10);'
Slate Magazine: Sen. Orrin Hatch
It wouldn't be illegal if he was gagged and couldn't talk back, and you included a facility to prevent the message from being recorded and played back or shared with others. Then it would be just a broadcast compliant with RIAA standards.
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