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Fedora Core 3 Test 1 Released
Gudlyf writes "Notice just went out to the Fedora Announce List about the availability of Fedora Core 3 Test 1. Things expected in FC3 include Linux kernel 2.6.7, GCC 3.4, GNOME 2.8, KDE 3.3, and Evolution 2.0. As always, you can get Fedora Core test releases at redhat.com, specifically here and (for a torrent) here."
Always have the cd isos and working on the dvd iso with a 10mbit pipe. :)
Suprised to see FC3 Test1 so soon.
Havoc Penington, the bane of my Linux desktop.
Yes, just install it and select the option to overwrite all existing partitions, assuming you want the "Break XP" option.
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It's already starting to act slow, so I might as well post it as an AC to avoid karma whoring.
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Announcing Fedora Core 3 Test 1
* From: Bill Nottingham
* To: fedora-announce-list redhat com
* Subject: Announcing Fedora Core 3 Test 1
* Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2004 11:38:37 -0400
[ witty or not-so-witty reference ]
Yes, it's time for the [number] test release of Fedora Core [number]. Fedore Core [number] includes various new features, such as
KDE [version], GNOME [version], and the [version] kernel.
[call for testing]
[admonition about production use]
Problems with Fedora Core [number] test [number] should be reported via bugzilla, at:
http://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/
Please report bugs against 'Fedora Core', release 'test1'.
For more information on just what the Fedora Project and Fedora Core is, please see:
http://fedora.redhat.com/
For discussion of Fedora Core test releases, send mail to:
fedora-test-list-request redhat com
with subscribe in the subject line. You can leave the body empty. Or see: https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora -test-list/
As always, you can get Fedora Core test releases at redhat.com, specifically: http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux
Or on the following mirrors:
* North America
* USA East
* http://mirror.linux.duke.edu/pub/fedora/linux/core
* ftp://mirror.linux.duke.edu/pub/fedora/linux/core/ test/2.90/
* rsync://mirror.linux.duke.edu/fedora-linux-core/te st/2.90/
* ftp://mirror.cs.princeton.edu/pub/mirrors/fedora/l inux/core/test/2.90/
* ftp://ftp.cse.buffalo.edu/pub/fedora/linux/core/te st/2.90/
* http://mirror.hiwaay.net/redhat/fedora/linux/core/ test/2.90/
* ftp://mirror.hiwaay.net/redhat/fedora/linux/core/t est/2.90/
* rsync://mirror.hiwaay.net/fedora-linux-core/test/2
* ftp://ftp.net.usf.edu/pub/fedora/linux/core/test/2
* http://redhat.secsup.org/fedora/core/test/2.90/
* ftp://redhat.secsup.org/pub/linux/redhat/fedora/co re/test/2.90/
* ftp://fedora.mirrors.tds.net/pub/fedora-core/test/ 2.90/
* http://linux.nssl.noaa.gov/fedora/core/test/2.90/
* ftp://linux.nssl.noaa.gov/fedora/core/test/2.90/
* rsync://linux.nssl.noaa.gov/fedora/core/test/2.90/
* http://mirror.cs.wisc.edu/pub/mirrors/linux/downlo ad.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/test/2. 90/
* ftp://mirror.cs.wisc.edu/pub/mirrors/linux/downloa d.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/test/2.9 0/
* rsync://mirror.cs.wisc.edu/pub/mirrors/linux/downl oad.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/test/2
* USA West
* ftp://mirror.stanford.edu/pub/mirrors/fedora/linux
* Canada
* ftp://less.cogeco.net/pub/fedora/linux/core/test/2
* ftp://ftp.nrc.ca/pub/systems/linux/redhat/fedora/l inux/core/test/2.90/
* http://gulus.usherbrooke.ca/pub/distro/fedora/linu x/core/test/2.90/
* http://mirror.cpsc.ucalgary.ca/mirror/fedora/linux
* ftp://mirror.cpsc.ucalgary.ca/mirror/fedora/linux/ core/test/2.90/
* South America
* Chile
It's test1.
If you're afraid of it breaking anything at all, you probably don't want to use it.
If you on the other hand want to help the developers find the bugs at an early stage so they can squeeze the bugs, download it immediately, start testing and report bugs.
No, There are no linux drivers for it. You can get it to run using ndiswrapper and the windows drivers though ( i'm posting, connected using one
If you read the release schedule, you'll notice that FC3 isn't due until 18 October.
8 6.torrent.
The link to the torrent can be found in the article text, actually. But since this is Slashdot: http://torrent.linux.duke.edu/FC3-test1-binary-i3
They're moving so fast, that I think they pile on more bugs than the rate they fix them at. Its generally pretty good, but still, a slightly slower schedule wouldn't impare them much. There really hasn't been that much new software since FC2 was released. Why not patch FC2, and wait for more stable builds of the next Gnome, like 2.8.2 or something, and KDE 3.3.1. It doesn't seems like Gnome 2.8 is that far along, and will be shipping as RC instead of finalized and tested. And if they do finalize 2.8, will is just be a bug-fix with like 1 new feature?
Aren't Windows XP installs broken by default?
=)
Jason Lotito
Looks like you'll need to keep fscking with the ndiswrapper since Broadcom are still being bitches about releasing the chip specs. I've heard rumors of a native alpha driver but I think they're just that, rumors.
Good people do not need laws to tell them to act responsibly, while bad people will find a way around the laws-Plato
I would have expected to see a ChangeLog in the article posted, as well as saying if the big bugs in FC2 have been fixed! (Windows mbr breakage and Orinoco wireless PCMCIA support breakage).
Sometimes, just sometimes, I get the feeling that Linux distributions are being released too fast for ordinary users to keep up. I mean, FC2 was released about a month back (roughly), and here we are, talking about about FC3 Test 1 already! I guess FC3's slated to be released sometime in October.
The problem with this is that often, packages (rpms) for older distros are discontinued, thus forcing users to upgrade. I know stuff like Yum solves a lot of these issues, but the fundamental problem still remains.
For instance, I was running FC1 with KDE 3.2 Beta 2, which released sometime in December 2003, and wanted to upgrade to KDE 3.2.3 - but I couldn't find any rpms for FC1 at all, only FC2. Since upgrading was on the card anyways, I did download and install FC2, and all's well that ends well, but it did leave me thinking about whether Open Source software products are being released a tad too fast.
I wrote an essay about technology overload [rahulgaitonde.org] on my website. This news post on /. made me instantly think back to that essay.
Could just be my take on it, but isn't that the whole point of Fedora ? more a less the "unstable branch" for RHEL ?
One would think that they would want to move the Fedora "branch" as far along as possible (and field test as much as possible) in between RHEL releases in order to incoporate as many stable features & fixes as possible into RHEL.
I'm not a big Red Hat user (prefer Gentoo myself) but that was my take on the Fedora projects goals.
Are you kidding or just ignorantly looking for karma?
It's got four CDs, einstein, because it's got so damned many apps bundled with it.
Try bundling MS office, MS SQL (two versions of it), exchange, and a few other M$ bloatware apps with XP and THEN come tell me about bloated installs.
You have obviously never installed fedora and if you did you did it to put it on your resume that you are a Redhat expert and have administered it for years.
Ignorance is bliss, I suppose.
I believe there was a typo in your post:
you mispelled "masterbate to pictures of techTV chicks" as "screw my girlfriend" and "constantly" as "6 hours".
my pet machine
Mandrake had that bug.
And SuSe also had that bug.
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This crap is really getting old, stop trying to place blame only on Fedora dev's when every distro with 2.6 kernel has this problem okay?
-- "of course thats just my opinion, I could be wrong." --Dennis Miller
Take the RPMs from mysql.com. They are really stable and work as expected.
Meme of the day: I browse "Disable Sigs: Checked". So should you.
Things that interest me:
- I see the Freedesktop.org HAL code is being included in test1. That will be interesting to see if and how integrated it will be in the final release. We'll probably also see some sort of real udev support this time.
- The timetable for the next official X.org release is planned to sync with Fedora Core 3. I'm a bit skeptical they can make it in time, but it would be really cool if they did. This will be the first X.org to include the new desktop composition extension from Keith Packards kdrive test.
It's like deja vu all over again.
It's fairly hard for a "normal" User on the slim line between an fairly actual system and a productive system. Anyway, new stuff always attracts me a lot (another load of hours lost :-)...
But the problem on Linux and especially with distributions a la Fedora is interoperability. Every version demands it's own RPM archive, there isn't just this thing like "xine-0.99xx.rpm" and GO. It's just like DLL Hell on Windows with the difference that it's more complicated to have different versions coexisting (M$ did some tweaks in that area); i know, it's cleaner but under M$ "IT JUST WORKS".
What really needs to get done is a wider adoption of sort of freedesktop.org "standards" like DBUS and a defined versioning System for all those *.so libraries on the system. Apple does some fairly cool tricks in that area with so called "frameworks" which exist as isolated directories and can contain multiple versions of a framework. Combined with late binding, it's just possible to trust a certain frozen API version.
I know it was already a huge step forward that most libraries now feature those xxx-config scripts so that the "user" doesn't have to supply all those directories and stuff for easier building. But let's get serious on that: A "real" user doesn't compile his stuff. And without tackling that matter we won't get serious (and working) package dependencies. And till that doesn't work every distribution is in fact a big bloated testing team trying to figure out the dependencies and building propietary packages that only work with this specific version of the distrib...
BTW I think that's part of the reason why gentoo is so successful...
I mean it's on the development schedule that test1 would be released today. This release shouldn't be a suprise for those complaining about installing this new one so soon.
As you can see, the core 3 will be done about October for those using core 2.
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Unix is very user friendly, it's just picky about who its friends are.
Slow DOWN guys!
You just released FC2 a few months ago. To be honest, it was lackluster. Bugs and problems are rampant. Really guys, fix up FC2, release FC2.1,2.2,etc first. Then move on to FC3. You guys cannot stay bleeding edge, and noone is expecting you to. That kind of thing is better left to the likes of Gentoo. You just worry about staying a version or two behind bleeding edge, and release a really solid OS that people can move into from Windows and have realatively few problems. Remember, the less problematic a first timer's (n00b, whatever) experience is with Linux, the more likely they will be to sticking around and finding out what this "open source" thing is really all about.
Why not take a look at CentOS [caosity.org] It's good for those looking for the stability and longevity of RHEL but not the official support from Red Hat.
They'll fix mp3 support when the MP3 codec is free software. There is an RPM out there that adds MP3 support back into XMMS. Hell, it's at XMMS' site, go figure.