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Building Your Own Extra-Large Keyboard

Ant writes "ModAsylum.com has an article on how to make your own extra-large homemade keyboard." Or, if you're handy with tweezers, extra-small.

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  1. yea by Vancomycin · · Score: 4, Funny

    a one-hand keyboard maybe more immediately useful for many :-p

    1. Re:yea by Rosco+P.+Coltrane · · Score: 3, Interesting

      a one-hand keyboard maybe more immediately useful for many

      I'll second that. It's amazing how little computer hardware manufacturers think of disabled people. If you're one-handed and you're looking for a good chord keyboard, you better be prepared to spend a lorryload of money for one of the precious few options available.

      Funnily enough, I've seen armless people type on a regular keyboard with their feet a lot more easily than with one hand. Maybe big keyboards would improve these guys' typing speed too...

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    2. Re:yea by Threni · · Score: 2, Funny

      >>a one-hand keyboard maybe more immediately useful for many

      > I'll second that. It's amazing how little computer hardware manufacturers think > of disabled people.

      I'm not entirely sure he was talking about disabled people...

      http://www.fishkeeping.co.uk/

    3. Re:yea by pandrijeczko · · Score: 4, Funny
      Mind you, I'll say one thing for the Big Keyboard - it looks like it has a "wipe clean" surface for those "errant splashes"...

      ...from nearby knocked coffee cups, of course.

      PS. Ever noticed the prevalence of British "Fnarr Fnarr" humour on here until the Americans start coming on line at our lunchtime?

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    4. Re:yea by Underholdning · · Score: 2, Informative

      Here's a nifty one-handed keyboard

    5. Re:yea by Dogtanian · · Score: 3, Funny

      Ever noticed the prevalence of British "Fnarr Fnarr" humour on here until the Americans start coming on line at our lunchtime?

      Heh heh.... he said "coming".

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  2. Final pic by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

    If you don't want to wade through 9 pages with two sentences in each and sometimes even a picture, this is the last page with the picture of the finished keyboard: http://www.modasylum.com/guides.php?guide=37&page= 10

    1. Re:Final pic by mirko · · Score: 5, Informative

      And as this still imply being limited by MySQL connections being maxed out, here's the link to the picture in itself.

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  3. Honey, I Screwed With the Keyboard! by Zorilla · · Score: 3, Funny

    Looks like they wasted a whole bunch of effort for nothing. Did they even bother to call up Rick Moranis before trying to make a keyboard big?

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  4. Modern crappy keyboards by Biotech9 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I've noticed a trend from the last few years. As PC companys like dell and gateway stuck little extra 'multimedia' keys on the top of the keyboard, they also slowly began to shrik key size.

    It was slightly noticeable that the 'full size' keyboard on my powerbook was bigger than the one on my girlfriends PC, but the kicker came when i dug my old Amiga 500 out of storage. The keyboard seemed so massive!

    So i ended up taking a very old keyboard from a server in my attic and using that. It's so old it has no windows keys, and the big clunky keys are heavenly compared to the modern flat logitect styles.

    1. Re:Modern crappy keyboards by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      Three words: IBM Model M.

    2. Re:Modern crappy keyboards by Mr_Dyqik · · Score: 2, Funny

      Nah, it's a ZX80 for me.

    3. Re:Modern crappy keyboards by e-gold · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I have an ancient, IBM-style (keys click, built like a tank, non-mushy) "NMB The Right Touch" keyboard which has an innovation that I truly love which has sadly never become popular. The spacebar is divided into 2 keys, the right side is still a spacebar, but the left side is an additional "backspace" key. Saying it with fewer words improves anyone's writing, and this key encourages that by giving users a backspace key they needn't reach-for, which believe it or not makes a difference.

      Once you get used to one of these, you'll begin to wonder why the rest of humanity seems to *want* both thumbs to be stuck with the same "space" option. I use Apple notebooks now, but I'd pay $100 extra to have my old left-thumb backspace key if the mod were even available. Oh well...
      JMR

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    4. Re:Modern crappy keyboards by amliebsch · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Oh my god, yes. My sister and I *accidentally* bought two originals (with the removable cord) at a second-hand computer parts store, and have absolutely fallen in love with this "battleship board." Its precision alone increased my typing speed by at least 10 wpm. Now, typing on anything else feels like absolute crap. And, barring misfortune, I expect that keyboard to last as long as I do.

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    5. Re:Modern crappy keyboards by Deagol · · Score: 2, Informative
      Found them!

      If anyone cares, Creative Vision Technologies, Inc. (CVT) has the Northgate keyboard clones. They can be found here. There's also a fairly current review of them at PC World.

  5. To go with the extra-large keyboard... by Rosco+P.+Coltrane · · Score: 3, Interesting

    The extra-large trackball. If you've ever seen one of these things, it's soccer-ball-sized!

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    1. Re:To go with the extra-large keyboard... by famebait · · Score: 2, Funny

      page sez:
      Designed for two to six year olds with a range of cognitive and physical abilities,

      So if you have a six year old with only one cognitive or physical ability, this is not for them.

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  6. Slashdotted by elgatozorbas · · Score: 3, Funny

    They had better built an extra-big server.

    1. Re:Slashdotted by ikea5 · · Score: 4, Funny

      with that extra-large keyboard, at least they can soft reboot the mechine rather easily.

    2. Re:Slashdotted by kyrre · · Score: 2, Funny

      They are probably in for a extra-large bandwidth bill.

    3. Re:Slashdotted by jamesh · · Score: 2, Funny

      depends how big. ctrl-alt-del might be a two person job.

      "Sorry to wake you Joe, but the server needs a reboot and I need to to come into the office and stand on the delete key while I press the other two."
      ...
      "No, Fred can't do it, he's not heavy enough"

  7. Re:Mirrors by byssebu · · Score: 2, Funny

    (Forgot to write about the keyboard...) It's cool with big keyboards but they fit better in David Lynch movies or in cartoons :=

  8. Re:Old fart keyboards by Rosco+P.+Coltrane · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Is this like those gigantic fucking calculators and phones with big buttons that are designed for old people? Computers designed for old people....hmmmm.

    Don't be so smug. One say you too will be old, and when you are, the kids with their direct brain computer interfaces will look at you type on your small keyboard and use your small calculator and say "hmm, move on Grandpa".

    Respect your elders, you'll be one too some day.

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  9. Interesting note. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

    Even the best keyboards are at about 85% of the size of optimum because they were modelled after typewriter keyboards to make it easier for typists to adapt.

    The first typewriters actually had properly sized keys, but they discovered that an unfortunate degree of jamming would occur as efficient typists would outpace the little hammers with the letters on them! Rather than trying to use some revolutionary alloy in the hammers to decrease their weight, it was determined that a cheaper solution was needed for mass-production -- and they settled on shrinking the keys, which slowed down even the best typists to an acceptable 50-60WPM (although later models did decrease hammer timing.)

    So today we are left with an antiqutitated model, and as with dvorak key layouts larger keys provide a technically better alternative that is unfortunately incompatible with what most current typists are comfortable and efficient with.

    1. Re:Interesting note. by Hognoxious · · Score: 3, Funny
      Even the best keyboards are at about 85% of the size of optimum
      Are you sure your hands aren't 17.6% too large?
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    2. Re:Interesting note. by Oligonicella · · Score: 3, Interesting

      "Rather than trying to use some revolutionary alloy"

      Ever consider that happened long enough ago that there weren't any "revolutionary alloys" available?

      P.S. Dvorak doesn't improve speed. That's a fallacy. Navy did a study, no improvement (even with newly trained typists).

    3. Re:Interesting note. by Moraelin · · Score: 3, Informative

      As far as I know (or "the way I heard that legend") the problem QWERTY "solved" wasn't that of speed. It was one of physical proximity. If you haven't owned one of those old purely-mechanical typewriters, basically:

      1. The mechanism was basically based on thin metal levers, with a key at one end and a small metal hammer with an embossed letter on it at the other end. You pressed the key, the little hammer was pushed towards the paper. (You had to actually hit the keys pretty hard, too, especially when you wanted 2 carbon copies.)

      2. Because it was a mechanical contraption, rather than wires, the whole mechanism was arranged in the only way that was easy to make and robust to operate: with as little overlap as possible. I.e., for keys that were physically near each other (e.g., A and Q, or A and S), the hammers would also be near each other.

      3. Unfortunately, due to the very construction, the closer two hammers were, the easier it was to jam the typewriter if you pressed both at the same time. E.g., if you pressed Q and W at the same time, the machine would pretty much always jam, whereas pressing Q and P at the same time would almost never jam.

      So the problem was basically not how fast you typed, but whether you pressed two adjacent keys at the same time. E.g., if you typed "assassin", and starting pressing the S before the A was released, or viceversa, you'd have a good probability to jam the thing.

      I.e., again, QWERTY was not supposed to slow people down, per se, but rather simply to reduce the probability that two consecutively used hammers would be phyisically near each other. That was the problem: the hammers, not the keys, not the typist speed as such. However, due to the purely mechanical (and somewhat primitive) relationship between keys and hammers, the easiest way to solve that was to rearrange the keys too.

      Think "side-effect", rather than "goal."

      The "goal" for the key layout itself was actually the opposite: to convince that time's PHBs that the new layout _doesn't_ slow people down too much. Or at least less than stopping to unjam the typewriter did.

      Hence the "QWERTYUIOP" row. The rigged tech demo involved was basically "look! I can type TYPEWRITER quickly! It must be an optimal layout!" So all the keys in that word had to be on the same row. Even at the expense of being less effective at preventing jams.

      Just, you know, in case you thought idiotic technical decisions being taken by complete incompetents required computers. There you go. A business decision, which was sold based on a rigged and non-representative tech demo. And we're still stuck with it :)

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  10. Is this what you get........ by EvilLordSoth · · Score: 2, Funny

    ........ After mashing your small keyboard with your fingers that are too fat too type ? If so I want a drinking bird with my fat fingered keyboard !

  11. Text of the first couple of pages. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    The site seems almost to be slashdotted, so here is the text of the first pages... from a Karmawhoring Anonymous Coward ;-)

    Today: Building your own X-Large Keyboard

    by

    Since the modding world interested me, I always wanted to create real objects that aren't using premodded stuff. Not to say that I got my own opinion about that kind of stuff =P. Anyway, many modders have always wanted to create an object then others never think about. In that same way, I decided for myself to make a one of a kind keyboard that would be unique. There are certainly others reasons why I created it, like for helping people who need it for any physicals problems that require big-key keyboards for helping them with access to computers. After having created it and having many comments about it, I decided to write a little guide about how it works and how it is possible to build your own. I hope that it will give you ideas about creating your project using PS/2 or other interface via a controller. If you have any comments or question feel free to ask me.

    DISCLAIMER

    This guide is presented for informational purposes only. By reading this and attempting any of the modifications/instructions within, you agree that the author, Modasylum.com, its staff, and affiliates are released from any liability from any damages resulting from said modifications/instructions performed.

    Material :

    * Plexiglas sheets (6mm thick for the keys, 4mm for the top and back sheets, 2mm for the inside sheets)
    * Wires (suggested 2 colors, 24agm, 200 feet)
    * Old Keyboard controller (USB, PS/2 or DIN)
    * 12, 3 inches bolts
    * 96 nuts (same size as the bolts)
    * Thin metal sheet (1 foot square)
    * Wood rod (1/4 inch thick)
    * Epoxy glue
    * Plexiglas glue
    * Tiny wood screws or micro electronics switches
    * Memory foam
    * Polishing kit (for plexi)
    * Letters stickers
    * Different pieces of wood and metal (optional for making templates)

    Tools:

    * Table saw
    * Drill press
    * Solder gun
    * 1/4" drilling bits (flat end)
    * 1 1/4" hole saw (depends on the key size)
    * Everyday tools (screw drivers, bits, etc.)
    * Clamps

    How it works

    The main part of a keyboard is the controller that links the keys to the computer. Every controller has different interfaces (USB, PS/2, DIN, etc.) and input pin orders (those that are connected to the keys). Basically, all keys are little push switches that are linked between two input pins; when the switch is activated, the controller sends an encoded signal to the computer. With that information we know that's it's possible to make a keyboard out of switch linked to the PCB. The concept for the project will be to fabricate them in manner that when a key is pressed, there is a contact made between the two inputs pins. For our project, we'll need to have the chart of which pins correspond to which letter or keys on our keyboard. I suggest using the two plastic sheets that are in your keyboard and check where all contacts are going and write it on paper for future use. Here are those for my controller, but I highly suggest you check yours because they could be different from one keyboard to another.

    The plans

    Before beginning the construction on a project like this one, it's important to make some drawings and be sure that everything will fit perfectly. The concept is really simple: two rods are attached under a Plexiglas square (top of the key). Those rods pass through two thin sheets of Plexiglas and a little piece of metal is attached under the base of the rods so that an electric contact can be made when the key is pressed. Another sheet of plexi will be under the metal pieces with tiny electronic switches or screws on it. When the key is pressed, the pieces of metal will make a contact between two screws, or press the micro switch (depends on your preference and budget).

  12. Or you can buy one by PhilHibbs · · Score: 3, Informative

    from Bigkeys

  13. Tomorrow: Build your own Monitor by Democritus2 · · Score: 2, Funny
    Yesterday was build your own mouse out of string and glue. Today it is build your own keyboard. Tomorrow it will be, build you own monitor out of an old mirror and a commodore 64.

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  14. Site doesn't work by carcosa30 · · Score: 3, Funny

    Why is it that sites linked from slashdot almost never work?

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    1. Re:Site doesn't work by lucas+teh+geek · · Score: 2, Funny

      Obligatory "you must be new here"

      you think people click the links to READ information? NO! of course not! its a Legitimate way that the OSDN can DDoS sites they dont like; SCO, RIAA, MS, etc. in this case there was a secret dispute between timothy and mod asylum, so he gave them a right good slashdotting

      note: this post may not be entirely factual

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  15. Is it just me... by deutschemonte · · Score: 3, Funny

    ...or does this keyboard kind of suck?

    I mean, I was thinking of a big QWERTY style keyboard.

    This one just looks like it is designed for very old/young/simple people. The letters are all in alphabetical order and it is decorated with primary colors that harken me back to the McDonald's Play Areas of yore.

    If you really want to impress me, make a keyboard out of the spare parts from several Dance Dance Revolution dance pads.

    A giant keyboard you have to step on to get to work, now that would be cool, not practical, but cool none the less.

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  16. Well To let you know... by jellomizer · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Because I am a Slashdot subscriber I was able to see the site before it was Slashdotted. The Keyboard looks like it was made for Kids in the classroom.
    The Keyboard layout was alphabetical. With all the vowels in a different color and so were the numbers.

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  17. For a small fee... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    We'll ship you your own keyboard enlargment pills! No mod nescessary. Minimum 3" guaranteed!!

  18. Pointless... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    You'd never find a screen huge enough where those those big letters would fit on :-]

  19. The finished Pic by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    no broken sql required

    http://modasylum.com/articles/lyo/plexi_keyboard/b ig/final.jpg

    shame its not a qwertyuiop based keyboard

  20. Re:Nope - doesn't work for me by lachlan76 · · Score: 2, Informative

    The link was to review 37, the article is about guide 37. The link should be to guides.php?guide=37 not reviews.php?review=37

  21. Re:Too late... site already smoking in the dust.. by AVee · · Score: 2, Informative

    Thank you for linking.

  22. How about small keyboards? by Bubblehead · · Score: 3, Interesting
    Well, I have been on a quest for years to find the smallest usable keyboard. My desk is fairly small, and a small keyboard footprint makes a real difference. Small means no number pad, and usable means well-arrarnged control keys (cursor, Home, End, etc.)

    I used to have a Cherry ML4100, which I really liked, but I just wore it out (letters wore off, unreliable action).

    Now I switched to the really slick looking Blu Illuminated Keyboard. But I am not that happy with it: The feel is too hard and inconsistent, and worst of all, where I'd expect the left Ctrl key, is the "Fn" key (for alternate keys). Still, the looks make up for it.

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    1. Re:How about small keyboards? by olderchurch · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I'm extremly happy with my happy hacking keyboard. Just the name was enough for me to purchase it. I use it a lot to type while the keyboard is on my lap and my feet on the table. And with this size I can stow it anywhere I like.

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    2. Re:How about small keyboards? by Luyseyal · · Score: 2, Informative
      Looked at Fentek mini's? I use this one... although this one and this one look pretty swank, too.

      -l

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  23. Re:Err, that's "Logitech". With a capital L. by Zwaxy · · Score: 2, Funny

    Is there anything people won't misspell nowadays?

    Honey, I shrunk the CygWin [twu.net]


    It's "Cygwin".

  24. keyboard design by psykopotat · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I've seen a few posts about general keyboard designs. What I dislike most about the whole thing is having constantly to transfer my right hand back and forth between the keyboard and mouse. What a waste.. allocating 5 fingers for 2 buttons. I'm personally waiting for this to come out - http://www.combimouse.com Also does anyone remember when the F-Keys were on the left hand side of the keyboard? So much easier for all key cominations with the F-Keys on the left

  25. It reminds me of this from bash.org: by Fizzleboink · · Score: 2, Funny
    <anamexis> oh man
    <anamexis> I was opening a coke, right
    --> Beefpile (~mbeefpile@cloaked.wi.rr.com) has joined #themacmind
    <anamexis> and it exploded
    <anamexis> ALMOST all over my keyboard
    <anamexis> but I got it away just in time
    <-- Beefpile has quit (sick fuckers)
    <anamexis> :<
  26. Source for IBM Model M keyboards -- by oneiros27 · · Score: 3, Informative

    They're still being made, with a little variation (you can get the original, in black, with 104 keys, with a trackball built in,122 key models, wireless, with mag stripe reader, etc. )

    I have no experience with the company, I just know they exist. [I still have a couple more original Model Ms in storage.

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  27. Account for domain modasylum.com has been... by MadMan2 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    "Account for domain modasylum.com has been suspended" is the cryptic message now appearing on the site. It thus appears that the site has either been hijacked by some uncanny aliens, or has been impounded by the CIA, the FBI, the NSA and the Home Security Dept for revealing Pres. Bush's equipment (in which case I'm wondering about his mouse ;-))

    However, what I wanted to say is the following:
    It isn't the first time that a site has been slashdotted to such an effect. In this case the number of hits were so extraordinary that the provider decided to close the site.
    I don't think this was the sitemakers' intention. Nor slashdot's. Or was it?

    Isn't it time we start wondering about the ethics of showing mentioning certain sites?
    For example: some amateurs invent something new for fun. Due to the slashdot effect their allocated and paid for bandwith is drastically drained because some nerd or other thought this might be fun to mention on /. Is it not a good idea for the /.-team to quickly mirror the small sites so that, in the event of the site being ./-ted, the authors at least have the pleasure of having their work, plan, initiative still shown (even though the price of ./-fame is the closing of their account)?

    In other words: does ./ have an ethical responibility towards smalltime websites being shown?

    Let's ponder on this for awhile...

    MadMan
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  28. Re:Want a power button on my keyboard! by smellystudent · · Score: 2, Informative

    1 - map the sleep button on the keyboard to power off in your keyboard drive.

    2 - enable "wake on keyboard" in your BIOS.

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