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michael
on from the closeups-of-the-sound-stage dept.
GoneGaryT writes "Wow! NASA has pulled another set of photographs, this time of Apollo 11's trip, out of the freezer and digitized them. They are glorious. I'm just checking out the first ever 'Earthrise' sequence and they are beautiful." I'll cherry-pick a few for you: 1, 2, 3.
To make sure they never get lost (the digital ones at lest) they should make a zip file of them and put them up on kazza.
But for real any one know where I can get all the pics in a zip and/or a tar file.
But that earth rise is just a great sight, and also the pic of the earth from a distance is just.... ( I don't have the words to say what I felt looking at that picture, other then small)
What JFK should have said was "I believe this nation should commit
itself to achieving the goal, before this decade is out, of landing a man on
the moon and returning him safely to the Earth with pictures that will scale
properly as wallpaper on computer monitors not yet invented."
you know i think the same thing at the Astronomy Picture of the Day Archives. some of their hi-res pictures (such as this one) would make GREAT wallpaper. but what am i supposed to do with a 1500x1000 image and still maintain the crispy hi-res-iness (woo i made a word!)?
Re:No foresight...
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Ramion
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Here is a couple of resized pictures that I made that will fit nicely on the desktop.
They are all 1024x768. Some cutting and resize has been done to get them to fit.
They are hosted on platoon.dk, which cannot take more then a couple of hits..:) as11-40-5903.jpg Man walking on surface. ( 323 KB ) as11-40-5905.jpg US flag ( 254 KB ) as11-44-6547.jpg Earth Rising ( 118 KB ) as11-40-5863-69.jpg Landing POD ( 208 KB )
What JFK should have said was "I believe this nation should commit itself to achieving the goal, before this decade is out, of landing a man on the moon and returning him safely to the Earth with pictures that will scale properly as wallpaper on computer monitors not yet invented."
Is anybody else unable to read this without hearing Mayor Quimby's voice?
Hmm, 250kb images.
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ParticleMan911
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Time 'till NASA Slashdottining: T-Minus 10... 9....
"So why aren't they in the Apollo pictures? Pretend for a moment you are an astronaut on the surface of the Moon. You want to take a picture of your fellow space traveler. The Sun is low off the horizon, since all the lunar landings were done at local morning. How do you set your camera? The lunar landscape is brightly lit by the Sun, of course, and your friend is wearing a white spacesuit also brilliantly lit by the Sun. To take a picture of a bright object with a bright background, you need to set the exposure time to be fast, and close down the aperture setting too; that's like the pupil in your eye constricting to let less light in when you walk outside on a sunny day.
So the picture you take is set for bright objects. Stars are faint objects! In the fast exposure, they simply do not have time to register on the film. It has nothing to do with the sky being black or the lack of air, it's just a matter of exposure time. If you were to go outside here on Earth on the darkest night imaginable and take a picture with the exact same camera settings the astronauts used, you won't see any stars! "
Yeesh.
-aiabx
-- Just this guy, you know?
Re:Attention Conspiracy Nuts!
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Citizen+of+Earth
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Goddamnit, didn't I tell you to read badastronomy.com? http://www.badastronomy.com/bad/tv/foxapollo.html# stars/ is the link to the stars question.
But still, NASA should GIMP in some stars in order to placate the consipracy theorists.
Re:Attention Conspiracy Nuts!
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MrChips
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For those who still don't understand what's going on, take your camera outside at night, when the full moon is high in the sky, and try to photograph the moon. Make sure you set your camera so the moon is not over exposed and its details can be seen. Are there any stars visible in the resulting photo?
Pictures 1,2,3 mirrored
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tcopeland
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NASA uses the same computers aboard Apollo 11 to host their web-site.
Behind the third rock from the left...
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R.Caley
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You can just see Ossama burrying Iraq's WMDs.
-- _O_ .|< The named which can be named is not the true named
If we can put a man on the moon ...
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bryanp
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Then why can't we put those pictures up on a site that can withstand a good slashdotting?
-- "An unarmed man can only flee from evil, and evil is not overcome by fleeing from it." Col. Jeff Cooper
Keeping Space Alive
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artlu
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NASA needs to do more to remind Americans of the importance of space to the future of mankind. Things like this that get Nasa's name back in the public eye by showing objects of celestial beauty will hopefully remind people of what is out there.
Houston, we have a problem. We have been slashdotted.
-- "There is no teacher but the enemy."-Mazer Rackham
hires pictures and slashdot...
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bdigit
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go together like george w. and michael moore.
these have been altered!
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Anonymous Coward
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These pictures have been altered. I distinctly remember there being an MTV flag up there from when I was a kid.
What Moon-Hoax Crap?
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goldspider
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It amazes me that so many allegedly "educated" people have fallen so quickly and so hard for a fraudulent fabrication of such laughable proportions. The very idea that a gigantic ball of rock happens to orbit our planet, showing itself in neat, four-week cycles -- with the same side facing us all the time -- is ludicrous. Furthermore, it is an insult to common sense and a damnable affront to intellectual honesty and integrity. That people actually believe it is evidence that the liberals have wrested the last vestiges of control of our public school system from decent, God-fearing Americans (as if any further evidence was needed! Daddy's Roommate? God Almighty!)
Documentaries such as Enemy of the State have accurately portrayed the elaborate, Byzantine network of surveillance satellites that the liberals have sent into space to spy on law-abiding Americans. Equipped with technology developed by Handgun Control, Inc., these satellites have the ability to detect firearms from hundreds of kilometers up. That's right, neighbors! The next time you're out in the backyard exercising your Second Amendment rights, the liberals will see it! These satellites are sensitive enough to tell the difference between a Colt.45 and a.38 Special! And when they detect you with a firearm, their computers cross-reference the address to figure out your name, and then an enormous database housed at Berkeley is updated with information about you.
Of course, this all works fine during the day, but what about at night? Even the liberals can't control the rotation of the Earth to prevent nightfall from setting in (only Joshua was able to ask for that particular favor!) That's where the "moon" comes in. Powered by nuclear reactors, the "moon" is nothing more than an enormous balloon, emitting trillions of candlepower of gun-revealing light. Piloted by key members of the liberal community, the "moon" is strategically moved across the country, pointing out those who dare to make use of their God-given rights at night!
Yes, I know this probably sounds paranoid and preposterous, but consider this. Despite what the revisionist historians tell you, there is no mention of the "moon" anywhere in literature or historical documents -- anywhere -- before 1950. That is when it was initially launched. When President Josef Kennedy, at the State of the Union address, proclaimed "We choose to go to the moon", he may as well have said "We choose to go to the weather balloon." The subsequent faking of a "moon" landing on national TV was the first step in a long history of the erosion of our constitutional rights by leftists in this country. No longer can we hide from our government when the sun goes down.
-- "Ask not what your country can do for you." --John F. Kennedy
Re:What Moon-Hoax Crap?
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southpolesammy
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The scary part about Slashdot is that if you replace every instance of "liberal" with "conservative" in the parent post, it will get moderated as +5, Insightful despite no change in content.
You can't see them because the shutter speed is high and the aperture is small, because of the high levels of light (the sunlight shining on the lunar surface and on the astronauts). If you took a photograph on Earth during the darkest night with the same camera settings as used on the Moon during the daytime, you wouldn't see any stars either (or anything much in fact) because they are far too faint to show up with those camera settings.
Re:There is an american flag on the moon.
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dr_dank
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Yes and it cost this country trillions of dollars. After all, it's not cheap to send a guy up each morning and night to take down and put up the flag in accordance with flag display etiquette.
-- Where does the school board find them and why do they keep sending them to ME?
Not only did they come AND leave in that thing, but the landing program was written in FORTRAN, and the computer crashed something like three times during descent.....all before Windows!
Re:There is an american flag on the moon.
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GlassUser
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I think it was firmly planted on the light side of the moon. If it's still rotating at all, it will be thousands, if not millions of years before dark falls on that flag. So it's really a great budget-saver.
Re:There is an american flag on the moon.
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aiabx
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A common misconception. In fact, it will be 2 weeks before they flag needs to be lowered. If you take a look at the moon, you will notice that it goes dark on the side facing us every month.
-aiabx
-- Just this guy, you know?
Why the Hell not?
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kippy
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Seriously, why shouldn't the US plant a flag there? Spare me the namby-pamby citizen-of-the-world crap. We invested billions into the project. We had our best minds working on it and it took the bravery of not only the astronauts to sit on top of a bomb but the fortitude of an entire nation to support it to the end.
I'm sorry everyone else but this is a clear instance of the US setting a noble goal and kicking ass at it. We deserve to be proud and make note of who it was who did it.
Re:Why the Hell not?
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kippy
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Please read your history. The NASA program did employ Werner Van Braun but he was a black sheep to some extent and didn't really contribute as much as people tend to think.
The rockets were surplus US Air force ICBMs for Mercury and Gemini and Apollo was launched on American rockets so I'm not sure how the German rocket thing holds up.
As for British brains, who were these brits that the US hired?
A capacity for quotation is not the same as forming an argument.
Re:Why the Hell not?
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dangermouse
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What kind of revisionist crap is that?
Wernher von Braun was brought to the US, along with hundreds of his best scientists and engineers, at the end of WWII. The Army set him up in Texas and later at Huntsville, where he built the Redstone rockets-- that's "Redstone" as in "Mercury Redstone", as in "MR-3", as in the mission that put the first American into space. Had von Braun not fought to delay the attempt for reasons of additional testing, Grissom would have entered space in the MR-BD mission and beaten Gagarin by a few weeks, to become the first person in space period.
von Braun could have put the first American satellite into orbit in the IGY, months before Sputnik, but Eisenhower wanted the Navy team to do it (for a variety of excellent reasons, not least of which was that von Braun's team was a bunch of captured Nazis).
When NASA was formed, von Braun directed Marshall Space Flight Center-- where he built the Saturn V, which was the launch vehicle for every single moon shot.
Sorry, but American rocketry, and the American space program, was built by imported Germans.
Re:Why the Hell not?
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kippy
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And who built the Atlas rockets? those were from the US air force.
Roketry was only a part of the space program and Van Braun didn't really contribute much more than rocketry.
Van Braun might have been a good rocket scientist but his ideas for space exploration were unworkable. His single craft plan for the Moon mission was thrown out. His plan for a Mars mission was backwards. In fact it's because of his Mars plan that any Mars mission is automatically labeled with a trillion dollar price tag by the press.
Re:Why the Hell not?
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dangermouse
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Actually it would be more accurate to say that American rocketry and the American space program was kick started by imported Germans.
I'm not saying that the United States wouldn't have eventually built a decent space program without von Braun and his team. But to say that they didn't contribute much simply because we would have gotten there eventually without them is absurd for two reasons: 1) they actually got us there, and 2) it was the Germans' use of rockets during WWII that made the US actually want to develop rocketry. The US was more or less happily ignoring Goddard til the V-2s started hitting Britain.
I have in my notes from Dr. John Krige's "History of Rocketry" course at Georgia Tech the following text of a telegram sent immediately from Germany to Washington upon the debriefing of the captured von Braun and his personnel (emphasis mine):
HAVE IN CUSTODY OVER 400 TOP RESEARCH AND DEVELOPMENT PERSONNEL FROM PEENEMUNDE. DEVELOPED THE V-2.
THE THINKING OF THE SCIENTIFIC DIRECTORS OF THIS GROUP 25 YRS AHEAD OF US. RECOMMEND 100 OF THE VERY BEST MEN OF THIS RESEARCH ORGANIZATION BE EVACUATED TO US IMMEDIATELY.
And the guy was right. It was a hell of a "kick start" the Germans gave us.
Re:There is an american flag on the moon.
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tverbeek
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I think it was firmly planted on the light side of the moon.
The moon does not have a "light side" and a "dark side". It has a side facing us, and a side away from us, but those sides (as anyone who looks up at the moon from time to time will notice) go through a cylcle of light and dark every month. That flag planted by Apollo 11 spends a couple weeks at a time in near darkness, with only reflected light from Earth to illuminate it.
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Re:There is an american flag on the moon.
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cmpalmer
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If this is an actual quote from your science book, I would sue if I were you...
The moon is tidally locked with the *Earth*, not the sun. The dark side is the side the Earth never gets to see, but it is fully illuminated by the sun once a month.
Uh, right?
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stream of did I lock the front door consciousness
Wow! These new images are the best yet. The shadows are all going the same direction, you can't see the movie set reflected in the visors, and there's no apparent line where the backdrop meets the stage. And they managed to build a set that looks virtually identical to the original set from the 60's. You've got to hand it to NASA for listening to public feedback and making a more believable set of photographs.
My Father and My Grandfather Were At NASA Then Too
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ausoleil
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I have not digitized all that I can find as of yet, but my family and I are working on a project to put all of my Grandfather's and (after him) my Father's papers and photographs from Cape Kennedy through the Apollo effort as well as Mercury and Gemini.
http://www.ausoleil.org/exhibits/vlpinson
A little background:
My Grandfather, V.L. Pinson, was Chief Telemetry Officer as well as MIS Manager for Cape Kennedy in the 1960's, not to mention duties he performed in the 1950's at ABMA (Army Ballastic Missile Agency) in Huntsville, and White Sands prior to that. While it is very incomplete, mainly because he died in 1988, we're continue to work on this and those interested in some of the minutae of space history might enjoy reading through some of the peronal effects of someone who was there.
PS: I saw Apollo 11 launch in 1969. We lived in Titusville, and saw the launch from the Bennett Causeway. Dad had a better view: As Missile Commander in charge of astronaut safety, he was in a foreward blockhouse about one kilometer from the launch itself. He and his team were there to provide rescue services for the astronauts had something gone wrong and Armstrong, Aldrin and Collins had needed to escape the launch vehicle.
As it was, Apollo 11 broke windows in my house, which was 6.5 nautical miles from the launch pad. Most Saturn V launches did.
It was a great thing going to sleep at night by light of a floodlit missile that was pointed at the moon. Even better was going fishing as a young child with my Grandfather's buddies -- Debus, Armstrong, Grissom, Scott Carpenter, a few others.
You had to be there.
Buzz's attitude...Neil's professionalism
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droopus
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With all the hoax talk, I thought I'd mention something actually concerning the missions.
I'm a bit of a 60's/70's space nut. I read all the books recently published (Gene Kranz's "Failure is not an Option", Chris Kraft's "Flight" and Gene Cernan's "Last Man on the Moon" are all incredible) and think the boxed "From the Earth to the Moon" DVD set might be the best thing HBO ever did.
Anyway.
Did you notice there are no (or very, very few) camera shots of Neil, but loads of Buzz? That's because Buzz was a bit of a PITA about the mission. He whined for months about not being the first out of the LEM, even after Deke Slayton told him the mission schedule. He tried to take it higher, using his deep religious feelings with politicians to try and be the first man out, but failed.
He did bring along a tiny Communion set and did indeed take Communion just after landing. But he was still pissed, and this was reflected in his refusal to use his camera much, if at all. The only shots of Neil were frame grabs off the LEM mounted 16mm cam.
Neil however, took loads of pics of Buzz, using the belly mounted Hasselblads they both had. So, Buzz became immortalized because there were simply more photos of him...saluting the flag, that classic closeup, etc.
Interesting that the attitudes of the astronauts weren't discussed much till decades later, NASA wishing to preserve the "rock star" image of the men.
I highly recommend reading at least one of the above books, probably this one which has a special if you buy it with Flight, Kraft's great book.
Both show just how amazing the Mercury, Gemini and Apollo programs were, and just how analog their equipment was.
Sadly the books will also give you a clue why a program like Apollo will never happen again in America, unless something radically changes.
-- "The pie shall be cut in half and each man shall receive.....death. I'll eat the pie."
Re:Buzz's attitude...Neil's professionalism
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ausoleil
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I knew Neil Armstrong, albeit as a young child.
"Rock star"? Neil certainly was not that. He was (and is) an exceptionally gifted engineer and pilot, and a man who did the job the best he could. He was also an humble man, as evidenced by his lack of visibility in the years after Apollo 11.
Neil was a brilliant man doing a tough, dangerous job. He did so cooly and with professionalism. That's why he was America's best civilian test pilot prior to his stint in NASA. That's also why he was the best choice to lead Apollo 11 into the rare air where the great explorers are.
Few people today realize the danger and risk that was involved in the moon missions. Think of this: look at how far technology, from it's most basic levels of materials science and mathematics have evolved *since* 1969. The Saturn V was arguably the most powerful machine built in all of recorded human history (that was not a bomb) and to this day, no launch vehicle has ever matched it's sheer lifting capaibility. It had the power of a small atomic weapon, and three men would climb on top and strap their butts to it. All with less computing power than your car.
They did it, and they did it with bravery. Not the kind of foolish bravery associated with a glory hound, but the kind of quiet bravery that marks a true HERO in every sense of the world.
I was there, and I said goodbye to Apollo 11 from five miles away as she lifted into the skies of a sunny Florida morning. I knew one of the men on the machine, and I had four family members who had important jobs that got them to the moon and back safely.
I am proud of them all, and they all had their roles. Aldrin may have been seeking glory, that is for history to decide. Nevertheless, the best choice was Armstrong, and as a result, his name belongs with Columbus, Erikkson and other great explorers who opened the doorway for all humanity to place that none had been before.
Perhaps it will take a century or more for history to truly appreciate the scope of that they did.
Looks like I started a nice debate, and have convinced several people that their inaccurate textbooks are correct. They are not. I though through the problem just far enough to get to the common (incorrect) habit of referring to the earth's side of the moon (the face, rabbit, woman, etc) as the light side. It's only light about half the time. The far side of the moon is light the other half (this of course ignores the effects of lunar eclipses, but they affect only the near side of the moon).
So, there is a light side and there is a dark side, but they change across a period of a month. If you have a textbook that says there is part of the moon that's always exposed to the sun, it's dead wrong.
Re:Earthrise????
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Bazman
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So the first Earthrise was seen by the three astronauts of Apollo 8.
Tonight (22 July) on UKTV History is part two of the Apollo 8 story, 10pm UK time for anyone with access to UKTV History channel.
Baz
Hoax would have required Soviet cooperation
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soldeed
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OK all you conspiracy advocates, if the moon landings were faked, then explain to me why would the soviets have let us get away with it? They had deep space tracking capability, and the glaring lack of actual spacecraft going to the moon beaming back telemetry data and voice comm would have been a dead giveaway! I grew up in the sixties, and on launch mornings the pre launch broadcasts usually included a shot of the Soviet 'fishing' trawlers hanging off the coast observing the proceedings. The spacecraft could be tracked with radar all the way to, around, and back from the moon. They sent that Luna mission to try to return samples and steal our thunder, (which we were able to track) but crashed instead. After the failure of their own manned lunar program The Soviets would not have tried such a foolish stunt themselves because they knew they would'nt have been able to fool anyone, and neither would we! To this day, no one in the soviet government or space program, has ever made any suggestion that we did'nt actually go to the moon.
Hoax did require Soviet cooperation (sort of)
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Roadkills-R-Us
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That's because the Soviet Union was alsoa fake. We worked it out with the Russians and related states to keep the Chinese under control.
If only we had realized that Chinese communism was also a fake (perpetrated by the parents of today's Nigerian scammers).
Next up: The EU hoax
Re:Earthrise????
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Saige
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Wow, you mean that somehow the moon bends light such that there isn't a single place on the moon's surface where the Earth appears partially above and partially below the horizon? Please, then, tell the astronomers about this fact, so they can determine what is special about the structure of the moon to cause this effect!
You know, just as a stopped clock is right twice a day (once if you use 24 hour time), a moon with the same side always facing the earth is still going to have regions where the Earth is partially below the horizon, thus creating an image of Earthrise, even if it's not rising/setting.
Besides, the pictures were taken before landing, while perspective was changing and giving the appearance of Earthrise.
-- "You know your god is man-made when he hates all the same people you do."
Flag / physics question
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hotspotbloc
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In the picture with the flag why isn't the flag just hang down? I mean it kinda looks like it's in the wind (yeah, yeah, insert your favorite Capricorn One joke here). Wouldn't the gravitation force being exerted on the moon cause it "straighten out" in some way?
Thanks for the answers.
-- "I hate to advocate drugs, alcohol, violence or insanity but they've always worked for me" - HST
Re:Why don't you do it
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davmoo
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Technically it wouldn't be theft of NASA IP, since NASA is a government division and therefore "owned" by "the people". NASA has never restricted the use of its images for non-commercial purposes, and mostly not for commercial use either, provided that proper attribution to NASA is given in the materials. That's why there are all those wonderful CDs and DVDs of NASA material available.
-- I want a new quote. One that won't spill. One that don't cost too much. Or come in a pill.
Re:Why don't you do it
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richie2000
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Or, you could have just read the frigging notice:
No copyright is asserted for NASA photographs. If a recognizable person appears in a photo, use for commercial purposes may infringe a right of privacy or publicity. Photos may not be used to state or imply the endorsement by NASA or by any NASA employee of a commercial product, process or service, or used in any other manner that might mislead. Accordingly, it is requested that if a NASA photograph is used in advertising and other commercial promotion, layout and copy be submitted to NASA prior to release.
NASA photos reproduced from this archive should include photo credit to "NASA" or "National Aeronautics and Space Administration" and should include scanning credit to Kipp Teague or other individuals or agencies as noted.
Slashdot Mirror
To make sure they never get lost (the digital ones at lest) they should make a zip file of them and put them up on kazza.
.... ( I don't have the words to say what I felt looking at that picture, other then small)
But for real any one know where I can get all the pics in a zip and/or a tar file.
But that earth rise is just a great sight, and also the pic of the earth from a distance is just
What JFK should have said was "I believe this nation should commit itself to achieving the goal, before this decade is out, of landing a man on the moon and returning him safely to the Earth with pictures that will scale properly as wallpaper on computer monitors not yet invented."
Trolling is a art,
Time 'till NASA Slashdottining: T-Minus 10... 9....
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Please go to http://www.badastronomy.com/ before you waste our time and bandwidth with your moon-hoax crap.
-aiabx
Just this guy, you know?
...right here.
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NASA uses the same computers aboard Apollo 11 to host their web-site.
You can just see Ossama burrying Iraq's WMDs.
_O_
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Then why can't we put those pictures up on a site that can withstand a good slashdotting?
"An unarmed man can only flee from evil, and evil is not overcome by fleeing from it." Col. Jeff Cooper
NASA needs to do more to remind Americans of the importance of space to the future of mankind. Things like this that get Nasa's name back in the public eye by showing objects of celestial beauty will hopefully remind people of what is out there.
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Obviously fake; there's a suspicious gap in the flagpole and there's crosses all over the place.
I don't need a compass to tell me which way the wind shines.
Houston, we have a problem. We have been slashdotted.
"There is no teacher but the enemy."-Mazer Rackham
go together like george w. and michael moore.
These pictures have been altered. I distinctly remember there being an MTV flag up there from when I was a kid.
It amazes me that so many allegedly "educated" people have fallen so quickly and so hard for a fraudulent fabrication of such laughable proportions. The very idea that a gigantic ball of rock happens to orbit our planet, showing itself in neat, four-week cycles -- with the same side facing us all the time -- is ludicrous. Furthermore, it is an insult to common sense and a damnable affront to intellectual honesty and integrity. That people actually believe it is evidence that the liberals have wrested the last vestiges of control of our public school system from decent, God-fearing Americans (as if any further evidence was needed! Daddy's Roommate? God Almighty!)
.45 and a .38 Special! And when they detect you with a firearm, their computers cross-reference the address to figure out your name, and then an enormous database housed at Berkeley is updated with information about you.
Documentaries such as Enemy of the State have accurately portrayed the elaborate, Byzantine network of surveillance satellites that the liberals have sent into space to spy on law-abiding Americans. Equipped with technology developed by Handgun Control, Inc., these satellites have the ability to detect firearms from hundreds of kilometers up. That's right, neighbors! The next time you're out in the backyard exercising your Second Amendment rights, the liberals will see it! These satellites are sensitive enough to tell the difference between a Colt
Of course, this all works fine during the day, but what about at night? Even the liberals can't control the rotation of the Earth to prevent nightfall from setting in (only Joshua was able to ask for that particular favor!) That's where the "moon" comes in. Powered by nuclear reactors, the "moon" is nothing more than an enormous balloon, emitting trillions of candlepower of gun-revealing light. Piloted by key members of the liberal community, the "moon" is strategically moved across the country, pointing out those who dare to make use of their God-given rights at night!
Yes, I know this probably sounds paranoid and preposterous, but consider this. Despite what the revisionist historians tell you, there is no mention of the "moon" anywhere in literature or historical documents -- anywhere -- before 1950. That is when it was initially launched. When President Josef Kennedy, at the State of the Union address, proclaimed "We choose to go to the moon", he may as well have said "We choose to go to the weather balloon." The subsequent faking of a "moon" landing on national TV was the first step in a long history of the erosion of our constitutional rights by leftists in this country. No longer can we hide from our government when the sun goes down.
"Ask not what your country can do for you." --John F. Kennedy
You can't see them because the shutter speed is high and the aperture is small, because of the high levels of light (the sunlight shining on the lunar surface and on the astronauts). If you took a photograph on Earth during the darkest night with the same camera settings as used on the Moon during the daytime, you wouldn't see any stars either (or anything much in fact) because they are far too faint to show up with those camera settings.
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As the site is rapidly getting slashdotted, here is a mirror of a few of the best images (more added as they become available and are awesome):
Apollo 11 Mirror (select images)
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Yes and it cost this country trillions of dollars. After all, it's not cheap to send a guy up each morning and night to take down and put up the flag in accordance with flag display etiquette.
Where does the school board find them and why do they keep sending them to ME?
Not only did they come AND leave in that thing, but the landing program was written in FORTRAN, and the computer crashed something like three times during descent.. ...all before Windows!
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I think it was firmly planted on the light side of the moon. If it's still rotating at all, it will be thousands, if not millions of years before dark falls on that flag. So it's really a great budget-saver.
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Yes.
English is easier said than done.
A common misconception. In fact, it will be 2 weeks before they flag needs to be lowered. If you take a look at the moon, you will notice that it goes dark on the side facing us every month.
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Seriously, why shouldn't the US plant a flag there? Spare me the namby-pamby citizen-of-the-world crap. We invested billions into the project. We had our best minds working on it and it took the bravery of not only the astronauts to sit on top of a bomb but the fortitude of an entire nation to support it to the end.
I'm sorry everyone else but this is a clear instance of the US setting a noble goal and kicking ass at it. We deserve to be proud and make note of who it was who did it.
Blaze a trail to the New World
The moon does not have a "light side" and a "dark side". It has a side facing us, and a side away from us, but those sides (as anyone who looks up at the moon from time to time will notice) go through a cylcle of light and dark every month. That flag planted by Apollo 11 spends a couple weeks at a time in near darkness, with only reflected light from Earth to illuminate it.
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If this is an actual quote from your science book, I would sue if I were you...
The moon is tidally locked with the *Earth*, not the sun. The dark side is the side the Earth never gets to see, but it is fully illuminated by the sun once a month.
Uh, right?
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Wow! These new images are the best yet. The shadows are all going the same direction, you can't see the movie set reflected in the visors, and there's no apparent line where the backdrop meets the stage. And they managed to build a set that looks virtually identical to the original set from the 60's. You've got to hand it to NASA for listening to public feedback and making a more believable set of photographs.
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You are correct. The "earthrise" pictures were taken from the orbiting Command Module.
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My God someone please stop modding this.
I have not digitized all that I can find as of yet, but my family and I are working on a project to put all of my Grandfather's and (after him) my Father's papers and photographs from Cape Kennedy through the Apollo effort as well as Mercury and Gemini.
http://www.ausoleil.org/exhibits/vlpinson
A little background:
My Grandfather, V.L. Pinson, was Chief Telemetry Officer as well as MIS Manager for Cape Kennedy in the 1960's, not to mention duties he performed in the 1950's at ABMA (Army Ballastic Missile Agency) in Huntsville, and White Sands prior to that. While it is very incomplete, mainly because he died in 1988, we're continue to work on this and those interested in some of the minutae of space history might enjoy reading through some of the peronal effects of someone who was there.
PS: I saw Apollo 11 launch in 1969. We lived in Titusville, and saw the launch from the Bennett Causeway. Dad had a better view: As Missile Commander in charge of astronaut safety, he was in a foreward blockhouse about one kilometer from the launch itself. He and his team were there to provide rescue services for the astronauts had something gone wrong and Armstrong, Aldrin and Collins had needed to escape the launch vehicle.
As it was, Apollo 11 broke windows in my house, which was 6.5 nautical miles from the launch pad. Most Saturn V launches did.
It was a great thing going to sleep at night by light of a floodlit missile that was pointed at the moon. Even better was going fishing as a young child with my Grandfather's buddies -- Debus, Armstrong, Grissom, Scott Carpenter, a few others.
You had to be there.
With all the hoax talk, I thought I'd mention something actually concerning the missions.
I'm a bit of a 60's/70's space nut. I read all the books recently published (Gene Kranz's "Failure is not an Option", Chris Kraft's "Flight" and Gene Cernan's "Last Man on the Moon" are all incredible) and think the boxed "From the Earth to the Moon" DVD set might be the best thing HBO ever did.
Anyway.
Did you notice there are no (or very, very few) camera shots of Neil, but loads of Buzz? That's because Buzz was a bit of a PITA about the mission. He whined for months about not being the first out of the LEM, even after Deke Slayton told him the mission schedule. He tried to take it higher, using his deep religious feelings with politicians to try and be the first man out, but failed.
He did bring along a tiny Communion set and did indeed take Communion just after landing. But he was still pissed, and this was reflected in his refusal to use his camera much, if at all. The only shots of Neil were frame grabs off the LEM mounted 16mm cam.
Neil however, took loads of pics of Buzz, using the belly mounted Hasselblads they both had. So, Buzz became immortalized because there were simply more photos of him...saluting the flag, that classic closeup, etc.
Interesting that the attitudes of the astronauts weren't discussed much till decades later, NASA wishing to preserve the "rock star" image of the men.
I highly recommend reading at least one of the above books, probably this one which has a special if you buy it with Flight, Kraft's great book.
Both show just how amazing the Mercury, Gemini and Apollo programs were, and just how analog their equipment was.
Sadly the books will also give you a clue why a program like Apollo will never happen again in America, unless something radically changes.
"The pie shall be cut in half and each man shall receive.....death. I'll eat the pie."
Looks like I started a nice debate, and have convinced several people that their inaccurate textbooks are correct. They are not. I though through the problem just far enough to get to the common (incorrect) habit of referring to the earth's side of the moon (the face, rabbit, woman, etc) as the light side. It's only light about half the time. The far side of the moon is light the other half (this of course ignores the effects of lunar eclipses, but they affect only the near side of the moon).
So, there is a light side and there is a dark side, but they change across a period of a month. If you have a textbook that says there is part of the moon that's always exposed to the sun, it's dead wrong.
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So the first Earthrise was seen by the three astronauts of Apollo 8.
Tonight (22 July) on UKTV History is part two of the Apollo 8 story, 10pm UK time for anyone with access to UKTV History channel.
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OK all you conspiracy advocates, if the moon landings were faked, then explain to me why would the soviets have let us get away with it? They had deep space tracking capability, and the glaring lack of actual spacecraft going to the moon beaming back telemetry data and voice comm would have been a dead giveaway! I grew up in the sixties, and on launch mornings the pre launch broadcasts usually included a shot of the Soviet 'fishing' trawlers hanging off the coast observing the proceedings. The spacecraft could be tracked with radar all the way to, around, and back from the moon. They sent that Luna mission to try to return samples and steal our thunder, (which we were able to track) but crashed instead. After the failure of their own manned lunar program The Soviets would not have tried such a foolish stunt themselves because they knew they would'nt have been able to fool anyone, and neither would we! To this day, no one in the soviet government or space program, has ever made any suggestion that we did'nt actually go to the moon.
That's because the Soviet Union was alsoa fake. We worked it out with the Russians and related states to keep the Chinese under control.
If only we had realized that Chinese communism was also a fake (perpetrated by the parents of today's Nigerian scammers).
Next up: The EU hoax
Wow, you mean that somehow the moon bends light such that there isn't a single place on the moon's surface where the Earth appears partially above and partially below the horizon? Please, then, tell the astronomers about this fact, so they can determine what is special about the structure of the moon to cause this effect!
You know, just as a stopped clock is right twice a day (once if you use 24 hour time), a moon with the same side always facing the earth is still going to have regions where the Earth is partially below the horizon, thus creating an image of Earthrise, even if it's not rising/setting.
Besides, the pictures were taken before landing, while perspective was changing and giving the appearance of Earthrise.
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Thanks for the answers.
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Technically it wouldn't be theft of NASA IP, since NASA is a government division and therefore "owned" by "the people". NASA has never restricted the use of its images for non-commercial purposes, and mostly not for commercial use either, provided that proper attribution to NASA is given in the materials. That's why there are all those wonderful CDs and DVDs of NASA material available.
I want a new quote. One that won't spill. One that don't cost too much. Or come in a pill.
Money for nothing, pix for free