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ESA To Study Human Hibernation

colonist writes "The European Space Agency (ESA) plans to study human hibernation for long-duration space voyages (a la 'Alien', '2001'). Although 'practical hibernation mechanisms are at least a decade away', ESA researchers will make initial inquiries into DADLE (D-Ala,D-Leu-enkephalin), an opium-like drug that triggers hibernation in ground squirrels and human cells. Other subjects of interest include dobutamine, a drug that maintains muscle, and the Madagascan fat-tailed dwarf lemur, the only primate known to hibernate."

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  1. Alternative Idea by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Study making smarter bears capable of space travel! They already hibernate.

    1. Re:Alternative Idea by TopShelf · · Score: 4, Funny

      They could always use this bear as a test subject. He's already smarter than the average bear...

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    2. Re:Alternative Idea by MindStalker · · Score: 5, Informative

      Not true. Generally in hybernation animals drop their heart rate significantly but it doesn't stop. Bears drop their heart rate from around 40-50 bpm to 8-12 bpm. Which is slighty above other animals, which often decrease to 4 bmp. But what makes bear hibernation unique is that its blood temperature only drops slightly, allowing it to wake up quickly.

      This is still hibernation.

    3. Re:Alternative Idea by Ralph+Wiggam · · Score: 4, Interesting

      That's cool that bears can maintain a moderate body temp for months without eating. Having a huge layer of fat is usefull. That could be a new diet. You take two weeks off of work, go into hibernation in some lab, and have your body consume your fat gut while you sleep.

      -B

  2. Women on long-term space flights? by garcia · · Score: 5, Funny

    Perhaps all long-journey astronauts should be women. There is a well known but seldom used gene present in women that causes immediate hibernation. It has been called the sex-gene. Once the word sex is mentioned the women immediately roll over and are asleep within seconds. This will continue until sex has not been mentioned for at least eight hours. If an automated speaker was constructed to force the sex-gene into operation every 6 or so hours the women should (in theory) remain unconscious.

    Yes my gf reads Slashdot. No, I am not getting any tonight.

    1. Re:Women on long-term space flights? by thebra · · Score: 5, Funny

      "There is a well known but seldom used gene present in women that causes immediate hibernation. It has been called the sex-gene. Once the word sex is mentioned the women immediately roll over and are asleep within seconds. This will continue until sex has not been mentioned for at least eight hours."

      This has been known to have side effects such as headaches.

    2. Re:Women on long-term space flights? by PrvtBurrito · · Score: 5, Funny

      Men, on the other hand have the opposite problem. They fall asleep immediately after sex. Interesting women fall asleep before sex, men fall asleep after sex. How was it we evolved again?

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    3. Re:Women on long-term space flights? by HarveyBirdman · · Score: 5, Funny
      Perhaps all long-journey astronauts should be women.

      Controller 1: What happened?

      Controller 2: Jupiter Two has exploded!

      Controller 1: My God! What happened? Was there any telemetry?

      Controller 2: Just a snippet of transmission.

      Controller 1: Was it a distress call? What did you hear?

      Controller 2: I heard Commander Janice shout "You bitch!" and then Lt. Sally say something about clawing out eye. Then there was just ten second of hissing and spitting and howling.

      Controller 1: Oh no! They synchronized! The dreaded (looks around and whispers) full moon effect!

      Controller 2: I thought we solved that with those pills?

      Controller 1: Yes, but... (sighs) There were always unknows, and the Jupiter system... sixty-three moons!

      Controller 2: We were bloody fools!

      Controller 1: That's not funny, Bob.

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    4. Re:Women on long-term space flights? by vidarh · · Score: 4, Insightful

      You must be incredibly bad in bed if you have that effect on women...

    5. Re:Women on long-term space flights? by kgarcia · · Score: 4, Funny

      Here you go

  3. We must look to Teenagers... by BongoBen · · Score: 5, Funny

    for inspiration. They can sleep for days at a time.

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  4. Good job ESA by strictnein · · Score: 4, Interesting

    This type of research is the future of human space exploration, at least for the forseeable future. Sorry, but light speed, or anything near light speed, just isn't going to happen anytime soon.
    The only downside to this is that the space traveler may seem like the trip only lasted a short time period, when it in fact took 10 years. By the time he gets back home his family will have aged 20 years. It actually may be the closest we get to time travel as well (want to see the future? just hybernate for 100 years).

    1. Re:Good job ESA by mirko · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Not everybody is attached to their family and relatives, some might even appreciate a century-time shift in order to refresh their relations.

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    2. Re:Good job ESA by WormholeFiend · · Score: 4, Interesting

      By the time he gets back home his family will have aged 20 years. It actually may be the closest we get to time travel as well (want to see the future? just hybernate for 100 years).

      I don't think hibernation prevents aging...

    3. Re:Good job ESA by (54)T-Dub · · Score: 4, Informative
      Yes, but it seems to me that the article inferes that hibernation could slow the aging process.
      While talking about the drug DADLE
      It also seems to send cultures of human cells to sleep: the cells divide more slowly and their gene activity drops when the molecule is applied.
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    4. Re:Good job ESA by Monkey-Man2000 · · Score: 4, Interesting

      If that were true, it would be nice if this became so commonplace that you could "hibernate" every night for about 8 hours. Thereby, extending your lifespan by ~33%.

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    5. Re:Good job ESA by ryanvm · · Score: 4, Funny

      Not everybody is attached to their family and relatives, some might even appreciate a century-time shift in order to refresh their relations.

      Fry, is that you?

    6. Re:Good job ESA by AKAImBatman · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Believe it or not, the speed of light is easy to "beat". It's just a problem of "beating it" in some usable fashion.

      For example, quantum tunneling allows a particle to travel faster than light for a mere instant of a second by stealing energy from nearby particles. In the end, however, it has to pay back the energy it used. This means that its net velocity never exceeded light speed.

      On the more macro level, there is a theory that wormholes could be used to circumvent light speed. Unfortunately, no one knows how to generate enough energy, or where to find the "exotic matter" to create them.

      Another (possibly even more credible) theory on FTL travel, is the Alcubierre Drive, often confused with the Star Trek notion of a "Warp Drive". Again, the core problem is that we have no idea where the energy for such a craft would come from.

      If none of this suits your fancy, then just load up on a few kilotons of Antimatter, and blast off toward the edge of the Universe at 1G of acceleration. Thanks to the dilation of space-time, you should be able to reach the edge of the known Universe in barely a few years time! Of course, there's this slight issue with Earth no longer existing by the time you got back...

      Good luck, intrepid space traveller!

  5. An alternative solution. by mikael · · Score: 5, Funny

    ESA researchers will make initial inquiries into DADLE (D-Ala,D-Leu-enkephalin), an opium-like drug that triggers hibernation in ground squirrels and human cells. Other subjects of interest include dobutamine, a drug that maintains muscle, and the Madagascan fat-tailed dwarf lemur, the only primate known to hibernate."

    An alternative solution is to design a virtual environment simulator that will make ground squirrels and Madagascan fat-tailed dwarf lemurs believe they are jumping across tree branches, when in fact they are piloting an interstellar spaceships.

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    1. Re:An alternative solution. by BondHeadGuy · · Score: 5, Funny

      I can't believe I'm about to do this but...

      I, for one, welcome our new Madagascan fat-tailed dwarf lemur interstellar spaceship pilot masters.

      Ugh, I feel so dirty.

  6. Does cancer hibernate too? by Euphonious+Coward · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I wonder if tumors stop growing during hibernation. If they do, then everybody with (expected-) fatal cancer can just hibernate until there's a cure.

    Likewise aging...

    1. Re:Does cancer hibernate too? by jdmetz · · Score: 5, Informative

      That would be nice, but unfortunately hibernating is not the same as suspended animation. Hibernating animals still lose muscle mass and use energy. The metabolic rate decreases but does not stop in hibernation.

  7. Oh yeah, that's comforting... by pergamon · · Score: 5, Funny

    "Don't worry sir, the device you're about to trust your life to is the result of years of research with the Madagascan fat-tailed dwarf lemur."

  8. I hope there going for basic science... by Retric · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Interesting but I think they're going to need to work out how to prevent bone loss if you're going to hibernate for a significant portion of the time in space. Anyway I hope there going for a basic science approach to the subject because if dobutamine maintains muscle mass during hibernation then it might also help with coma/bed-ridden patients.

  9. Atrophy by Short+Circuit · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Having someone sleep indefinately is only a matter of controlled sedatives. I imagine their biggest problem is going to be organ atrophy.

    If they solve that, then they'll have an extremely valuable spinoff technology that will help everyone from the temporarily wheelchair-bound to the hospitalized.

  10. OK, but will the ESA study how to build by panurge · · Score: 4, Funny
    Heuristic algorithmically programmed computers that don't decide to take over the mission? Science fiction precedent shows that being a hibernating crew member on a long voyage means you don't make it to the end of the movie. I guess we will need some of that old Russian technology with drum timers.

    Also, if the eventual mechanism is based on bear hibernation, how are the astronauts going to wake up and poo in the woods periodically?

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  11. Madagascan fat-tailed dwarf lemur by Esion+Modnar · · Score: 5, Funny

    Having a name like that is a survival mechanism. You see, when anybody's hunting them, by the time they say, "Hey, there's a Madagascan fat-tailed dwarf lemur!" it's gotten away clean.

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  12. Does cancer hibernate too? - Easier Surgury? by mykepredko · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I wondered the same thing - and going ahead with this, would it be easier to operate on somebody in hibernation?

    Would hibernation be part of a safer anesthetic protocol for surgury? Put the patient into hibernation with local pain killers rather than forcing them into unconsciousness?

    This could be a very useful spin-off of this technology and maybe be more important to humanity than facilitating very long duration space-flight.

    myke

  13. A Humble Suggestions for ESA by Dr.+Shim · · Score: 4, Funny

    Let me get this right, the ESA is creating an opium like drug to put people into hibernation on long space voyages.

    And this drug work's successfully on ground squirrels.

    Why not just send the squirrels into space, and skip humanity altogether?

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  14. I offer myself... by abkaiser · · Score: 5, Funny
    ...To test the "opium-like" drug. I'm that dedicated to scientific advance.

    Of course, the last time I heard something like that, it was from a bartender who suggested a drink and told me "it was as close to legal opium as you could get".

    So, one interesting night later, I have this advice: Stay away from Chartreuse.

  15. Just.. by the_mad_poster · · Score: 4, Funny

    ...send them to my cubicle. The second I enter it, all mental and physical functions shut down for hours.

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  16. Oooh, and we can call it... by devphil · · Score: 5, Funny


    ...wait for it...

    Lemur's Game

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  17. Reasons the Article doesn't go into.... by Artifakt · · Score: 4, Interesting

    1. Radiation shielding on long term voyages seems to be a real bear of a problem for manned spaceflight to the planets. It might be feasable to put a bunch of shielding around a small compartment with a hybernaut where it wouldn't be feasable to shield all the working and sleeping areas for an awake astronaut.

    2. By extension, a 2001-like approach becomes workable - Put part of the crew into hybernation, rotate them in and out as needed. In 2001, this was supposed to be because the planetside geologists and such had little to do until Discovery was close to Jupiter, and then the security/paranoia factor kicked in. In the real case, a ship might rotate crew to even out radiation exposure, or put a crewman who was loosing bone mass faster than others into hybernation to protect his health.

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