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3D Monitor

Posted by CmdrTaco on from the still-waiting-for-x-ray-specs dept.

jed101 writes "I just stumbled upon this news release by Sharp introducing a 3D monitor that doesn't require special glasses. The technology was devised for high end medical instuments and such but this could be the gamers new dream toy."

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  1. 3-D eh? by Agent+Green · · Score: 4, Funny

    How is this going to work with my one good eye?

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    1. Re:3-D eh? by Kenja · · Score: 4, Funny
      "How is this going to work with my one good eye?"

      Well, you move your head from side to side sixty times a second to see the 3D image.

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  2. Notebook Version by Klar · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Is this the same technology that has been around on Sharp 3D Notebook LCD's since last year and just brought to the desktop market, or are there any hardware advances?

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    1. Re:Notebook Version by DarthStrydre · · Score: 5, Interesting

      While I have not seen one of these monitors operational, it sounds like the technology is something thats been around for quite awhile, albeit in cheap children's toys and advertisements. The toy images are non-holographic where there is what looks like a linear fresnel lens adhered to a specially printed paper. These are able to give multiple images if you move your head, and some are intended to simulate 3D, depending on the shape of the lensing and printing on the paper.

      If this is the case, then the sweet spot for these monitors may be quite limited to a certain distance, and angle, but this does not limit the coolness factor.

      This is just conjecture, however, based on their claim of using parallax.

    2. Re:Notebook Version by feyhunde · · Score: 5, Informative

      Yep. And it is crap.

      I used one and you must keep you head at a very certain position from the screen for it to work. Not to mention the stereo drivers for the Nvidia 6800 don't work with it. Or that the frame rate takes a hit in 3-D mode.

      Want a real one? Planar Systems has a stereo system that does require polarized glasses, but works despite moving your head and at full speed. They have a machine at Siggraph playing UT 2004 right now. You read more at

      http://www.planar.com/Advantages/Technology/index. html

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  3. Gamers? by Gr33nNight · · Score: 5, Funny

    Gamers, what about reviewers of *ahem* adult entertainment material?

  4. Any pictures of it? by Conspiracy_Of_Doves · · Score: 5, Funny

    I want to see the 3D in action.

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    1. Re:Any pictures of it? by FrostedWheat · · Score: 5, Funny

      Here ya go, from Sharp's website.

      I dunno about you, but I'm convinced!

  5. Just like any innovative technology by doombob · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The first thing it will be used for is the pornography industry.

  6. It's about time!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    The world has been deprived of 3d goatse for too long.

  7. Obligatory Futurama reference ... by Strong+Arm+Coat · · Score: 4, Funny

    Leela: "Hold still: I don't have good depth perception!"

    1. Re:Obligatory Futurama reference ... by stratjakt · · Score: 5, Funny

      Fry and Leela see the 3D Movie on the robot planet.

      Fry: The 3D is amazing..

      Leela shifts the glasses over her eye from red to blue and back again..

      Leela: Mine's not working

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    2. Re:Obligatory Futurama reference ... by mskfisher · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Funny, yes, but true for me. I was cross-eyed at birth, and in the course of my surgeries, I lost stereoscopic vision. I have vision in both of my eyes, but it isn't in 3d. All of my 3D vision is from learned depth cues and unconscious motions.
      The upside, of course, is that Doom, Half-Life, and any other FPS is more fun for me.

      Holograms are effectively 3d for me - I can see the change when I move my head. But the Magic Eye posters and anything with red-blue glasses doesn't work at all.

      So I always keep a watch out for these 3D monitors and any new 3D tech to see if it'll work for me - I'd love to see something that actually did change depending on what angle you viewed it.
      It doesn't look like this one will do the trick - it still depends on stereoscopic effects.

      Oh - neat party trick I gained from this, though, is that I can change my dominant eye at will. Quite fun - and useful, since I'm nearsighted in only one eye.

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    3. Re:Obligatory Futurama reference ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny
      Oh - neat party trick I gained from this, though, is that I can change my dominant eye at will.


      Sounds like your parties are a real blast!

    4. Re:Obligatory Futurama reference ... by peculiarmethod · · Score: 4, Interesting

      nope. he means he can change his brains focus between the two eyes. camera 1, camera 2. i can do the same thing, and i also have one near sighted eye. interestingly enough, i also see differnt hues of colors between the two eyes, so when i pick a different eye to focus on, i get slightly redder purples, or greener blues, etc. strange how cones and rods work.

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    5. Re:Obligatory Futurama reference ... by MindStalker · · Score: 4, Informative

      No its just that your vision generally has one ey the is dominant. Try putting your finger infront of you, close one eye. Your view of your finger may move significantly, or the blurry second finger may just go away. The eye that doesn't see the finger move is your dominant eye, and the other one is less dominant and is more there for depth perception.

  8. Nice . . but no. by OverlordQ · · Score: 5, Informative

    . . . but this could be the gamers new dream toy.

    I think you mean wet dream. But hey, if you wanna drop $1500 on a LCD (yay dead pixels) monitor so you can 'be better at video games', kudos to you.

    Oh btw, it has a 25ms response time, not quite high-end gaming material.

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  9. Article short on detail... spec sheet here by Dave21212 · · Score: 5, Informative


    The article was a bit short on detail... the spec sheet is here (thanks Google)

    It's 15", 1024x768

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    1. Re:Article short on detail... spec sheet here by eomnimedia · · Score: 5, Funny

      Actually, it's 1024x768x38DD

  10. What a day! by knix · · Score: 4, Funny

    First you can order your 3D keyboard, and now you can buy a 3D monitor. Along with the instructions on how to make a 3D mouse that were posted a few weeks ago, you could have a pretty interesting setup. All you might need is some sort of 3D printer, like one of those prototyping machines.

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  12. Re:Already been posted.... by sharkdba · · Score: 4, Informative

    Am I the only one getting some /. deja vu here?

    No.
    Sharp announces 3D laptop
    PC Magazine Review's Sharp's 3D Notebook

    The only difference, they talked about laptops. Now apparently it's on the desktops. But since they're talking about 3D Monitors it shouldn't matter...

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  13. Re:Fourth post plus by iocat · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I saw it at ComicCon! Or maybe it was E3. But I think it was ComicCon. Anyway, it was kind of nifty, but you had to be right in front of it for it to work well. I have pretty shitty depth perception to begin with (although I can see those Magic Eye things great... go figure), but it was neat. It was hard to imaging a great application though, because it felt like looking at one of those little lenticular things, and it was kind of an effort for me to keep the 3D in view. The monitors (a laptop and a PC monitor) were just showing stills, not moving images, so I can't evaluate that, and also they were on a table and I was standing, so I was not at all at an optimum viewing angle (I had to crouch down, which is not a super sustainable posture at which to evaluate a monitor).

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  15. Re:Gamers? by ad0gg · · Score: 5, Funny

    As long as its female only porn. None of this mixed stuff. Its bad enough trying to ignore men in 2D, I sure as hell don't want to see a large penis flying towards me.

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  16. Would've been nice to link to... by GillBates0 · · Score: 4, Informative
    the numerous articles on 3D displays that have made it to /. over the past few months (including Sharp's 3D laptop):

    More 3D displays to come
    Future of Visual Gadgets Rolled Out
    PC Magazine Reviews Sharp's 3D Notebook
    Sharp to Sell 3D laptop for $3299

    and many more right here.

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  17. Maybe, maybe, maybe... by stratjakt · · Score: 5, Insightful

    ATi will get off their asses and add stereoscopic rendering to their drivers. Until then, this is useless to ATi owners, since as far as I can tell it relies on left and right framebuffers, like the shutter glasses do.

    There's been quite a bit of griping on rage3d.com over this issue, and ATi's unwillingness to do anything about it.

    Gaming would be hit or miss, some games look awesome with the glasses, some dont. Graphics hacks which look great on a 2D monitor look lame in 3D.

    Picture a driving game, where roadside signs fly past you.. Rather than properly rendering them in 3D, they're just sprites that expand as they're "closer". Rendered in real 3D, they look like some screwed up floating box that expands and shrinks..

    Basically, for the game to look right, everything has to be rendered in 3D. Which is less of a problem these days, with the power that's in the average PC.

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  18. Screw by Apreche · · Score: 4, Insightful

    3d monitor? big whoop. Wont be useful for me.

    What I want to see is a 3d hologram platform/table. That would revolutionize display technology forever. We could play Star Wars chess. We could watch sporting events like baseball, hockey and football while really seeing the entire field. And think of the video games you could play on it... oh yeah.

    Also cool would be a display that shows a different picture depending on the angle of viewing. With just one television in the room you can have one person watching a dvd, another playing a video game and yet another channel surfing. Depending on where you are in relation to the screen in the room changes what you see, and everyone gets their own remote. Far superior to buying multiple displays.

    A 3d display like this one really isn't that revolutionary or useful for me.

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  19. FYI only works with stereoscopic software by musikit · · Score: 4, Informative


    from the PDF spec:
    If your software supports stereoscopic viewing with 3D glasses, then it will
    probably work with the LL-151-3D monitor. This is because the graphics cards
    manufacturers who support stereo with glasses have updated their drivers to
    support the Sharp 3D display technology. To ensure the most up to date
    compatibility, check www.sharp3d.com for the most up to date list of graphics
    cards and driver software supporting the LL-151-3D monitor.
    Note that the LL-151-3D monitor will only display 3D images when the
    software is written to create stereoscopic display output. The LL-151-3D
    display will not automatically convert standard graphics output to stereoscopic
    output.
    Also stereoscopic viewing is only supported at a resolution of 1024x768. 3D
    visualization will not work correctly if the display resolution is set to any other
    value.

  20. This saves me a lot of money! by Picass0 · · Score: 4, Funny

    I closed my right eye and moved my head back and forth as fast as I could, and now Slashdot seems to be floating in front of my monitor!

    I also am having cold shakes and I think I may have suffered a stroke. So this method isn't perfect but it could agggghhhhh....

  21. Re:Still need two good eyes? by pclminion · · Score: 4, Interesting
    It really sucks being blind in one eye sometimes.

    I would think it would be easier to create 3D display technology for one-eyed individuals than for people with two eyes.

    For people with two functioning eyes there are three major depth cues: stereovision, focus, and attenuation. With one eye you still have focus and attenuation, but no stereovision. (You also have parallax as the eye is moving, but this isn't as helpful.) So a one-eyed person doesn't rely on stereovision at all to gauge depth.

    Notice that it is only the stereovision which is hard to simulate with a display device -- software could be written to simulate focal blur and distance attenuation, and since these are the only depth cues available to people with a single eye, this should be a pretty convincing representation of a 3D scene.