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A One-Handed Keyboard For $25

Bruce Perens writes "Slashdot has often featured attempts at improvement upon the QWERTY keyboard. Here's a one-handed USB keyboard that you can buy for $25 online, or a bit more at the CompUSA. There's one catch: someone will have to design a keying pattern and hack up software for it. It's a task just crying out for an Open Source project." Bruce has also included on the linked page code with which to read the output from the device.

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  1. Oh Jeez... by bje2 · · Score: 5, Funny

    let the stream of one-handed web surfing jokes begin...

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  2. Cue joke by 3eyedlie · · Score: 5, Funny

    about what the other hand is doing. "I tried to have phone sex, but the holes were too small" - Sage Francis

  3. example: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    "yes, but is it left-handed?"

  4. Then you can't buy a one-handed keyboard for $25.. by Brento · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Saying that you can buy a one-handed keyboard for $25, but you have to roll your own software, means you're not buying a one-handed keyboard for $25. That's like saying you can buy your own crystal meth for $25 - sure, the ingredients are only $25, but you have to know the recipe and risk life and limb cooking the stuff.

    Not that I'd know about those things. (And that applies to both coding my own keyboard drivers as well as cooking meth.)

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  5. whaw by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    Looks pretty armless to me ;-)

  6. Age old question answered! by elSpike · · Score: 5, Funny

    What is the sound of one hand typing?

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  7. One handed Dvorak by Shard013 · · Score: 3, Informative

    Dvorak allready has keyboards designs for both left and right hand only. These could probably be put on the new kb easy enough. Not that I can read the article, mirror anyone?

  8. Worth a try by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    My daughter only has one hand. I used to think she had a really hard time typing because of the style of typing she used on AIM, it was very fast but did not make much sense. Then I realized all the kids type that way. She can type about 15-20 wpm with just her one hand. I guess it depends on how handicapped someone is but if someone handicapped learned to type with this device, they would be "stuck" using this device any time hey needed to type.

    1. Re:Worth a try by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

      you really cant use this to type. this is an 'enhanced version' of a previous belkin product, the n50, which i own. it simply doesnt have enough keys to do more than keyboard shortcuts and macros.
      think forward, back, and up a directory, not
      'all good men are created equal'
      in terms of what this device can do

    2. Re:Worth a try by poot_rootbeer · · Score: 2, Informative

      it simply doesnt have enough keys to do more than keyboard shortcuts and macros.

      Belkin's site states that you can program up to 104 functions using it -- that's enough to implement a full keyboard with (even SysRq and Scroll Lock)!

      Teaching yourself custom chordings for all the different keycodes, now that'll be the challenge.

  9. Maybe by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Writer must be stuffed, this couldn't possibly become a successfu... oh Bruce Perens, ^h^h^h^h^h^h^h^h^h^h^h^h^h^h^h^h^h^h^h^h^h^h^h^h
    Wow, great idea! Lets start coding! Where's the source-forge page?

  10. DVORAK keyboard by w.p.richardson · · Score: 4, Insightful
    Some would argue that a Dvorak keyboard is an improvement over QWERTY. Why hasn't it taken over? Simple - there is no real cry for an improvement.

    This idea is akin to changing the steering wheel in a car to a joystick; possible, but why change something that is a functional standard?

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    1. Re:DVORAK keyboard by gilesjuk · · Score: 3, Insightful

      There's a proper reason for having a steering wheel in a car and that is accuracy and usability. You have to turn the wheel quite a large distance to go from full lock left to full lock right. With a joystick it would be a foot at the most.

      Other reasons include feedback, you simply wouldn't get the right feedback from a joystick. A stick is ideal for a plane as you are banking the plane towards the left and to the right, in a car you are rotating the wheel and so a rotating control method works best.

      Also, to use a stick you would need control systems, fully powered hydraulic steering, this would be prone to faults and in the event of a system failure you would lose steering. Currently cars have power assisted steering but standard steering still functions in the event of a fluid leak etc.

      Other problems with a stick system? how about requiring the engine to be running for the system to work? this would make getting your car onto a recovery truck rather difficult if the engine won't run. What about getting towed? impossible without the engine running.

      So while it might be possible to change cars to use a joystick it is simply a bad idea.

    2. Re:DVORAK keyboard by Cska+Sofia · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Some would argue Mac OS X is an improvement over Windows. Why hasn't it taken over?

      Just because a technology is established across the vast majority of users doesn't mean that alternatives wouldn't be a great improvement. QWERTY is so firmly established that despite the common knowledge that it was designed to put common letter combinations as far apart as possible, most users do not even consider looking for an alternative. There are many reasons - lack of knowledge, lack of learning resources, cost - but don't think that, all else being equal, users wouldn't pick the alternative that is designed for the greatest speed, comfort and accuracy.

    3. Re:DVORAK keyboard by the+pickle · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Let me preface this with "I think a joystick is a horrible way to drive a car" and "Change for the sake of change is almost always bad." So in principle, I agree with the spirit of your comment.

      A stick is ideal for a plane as you are banking the plane towards the left and to the right, in a car you are rotating the wheel and so a rotating control method works best.

      Uh, what? This reasoning sounds awfully circular (honestly, no pun intended) to me. There are plenty of planes that use a wheel instead of a stick. The main reason for using a stick with an aircraft is that a wheel doesn't easily (or as conveniently, anyway) lend itself to motion in a third axis. Using a stick removes a lot of that awkwardness.

      Also, to use a stick you would need control systems, fully powered hydraulic steering...

      There are plenty of planes that don't have hydraulic systems associated with a control stick, and there are a lot more that have systems no more complicated than what's in a car. There's no reason a hydraulic-assist stick, much like today's power steering, couldn't be developed for use in a car.

      I can almost guarantee you that helicopter (and maybe fighter) pilots would be the only people who would be able to drive such a system with any sort of precision, though. Your point about having to turn a steering wheel a very large distance to effect a fairly small change is a good one. Without some sort of serious speed sensitivity, the smaller range of control input inherent in a stick would make for VERY lively steering (read: easily overcontrolled).

      Of course, if cars had *always* had a joystick-type steering mechanism (some early ones did, in fact), we'd be sitting here having this discussion from the opposite perspective. There's really nothing inherent in a steering wheel that makes it the perfect solution to steering a car. It's more a matter of "what's always been done."

      To get this back on topic, there's really nothing inherently superior about a QWERTY keyboard, and many arguments can be made that there are inherently inferior aspects of it. The problem is, QWERTY layouts have been in use for so long that they're the de facto standard, no matter what other great technology comes along. QWERTY keyboards will rule the world until either voice recognition or direct brain control is perfected.

      p

    4. Re:DVORAK keyboard by singleantler · · Score: 3, Interesting

      People with various types of disabilities all ready use joysticks to drive their cars, it's just a later adaptation by specialist companies. With the latest generation of cars with drive-by-wire this is a lot easier, but it's been done for years.

      I don't think the steering wheel will disappear any time soon. There are huge advantages to having one over-riding standard in vehicles - once you know how to drive a car you can get in any car and drive it. Learning on a joystick car only to then need to drive someone's steering-wheel car would be very awkward and annoying. A smaller version of this is seen in the UK when someone learns to drive with an automatic gearbox then goes to a manual (stick shift.) It's a whole extra thing to learn and, at least when I learnt to drive, if you didn't learn in an automatic you had to take lessons and another test if you wanted to drive a manual in the future.

      Steering wheels are just like keyboards - QWERTY is used everywhere, and we're stuck with it unless you have a special adaptation. Steering wheels are everywhere unless you've got a specialist vehicle (e.g. some fork lift trucks) or had it adapted to your special use.

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    5. Re:DVORAK keyboard by Smidge204 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      You might save on cost, and it might be marginally lighter, but you won't save on power. The reason being that if you replace the steering wheel with a joystick, that's the ONLY thing you'll be changing. You will still need the steeling linkage, power assist cylinder (moreso than ever, because the driver now provides 0% of the mechanical force required to turn the wheels - so it would probably use more power), and all of the bits that go along with it.

      However, using a joystick as a control is a BAD idea, above any beyond the problems you mentioned. Most cars have steering ratios of 12:1 to 14:1. Meaning if the front wheels could turn 360 degrees you would have to turn the steering wheel 12-14 times. This gives you very good control for when you want to turn just a little bit, like on a highway that goes around a bend. Now imagine that with a joystick, and how easy it would be to push the stick a little too far and end up swerving out of control. At most you would only have to tilt the stick 35-40 degrees to go full turn in either direction.
      =Smidge=

    6. Re:DVORAK keyboard by imsabbel · · Score: 2, Informative

      Yes, exactly.
      Its the same in germany: If you make your license on a automatic, its only good for automatics.

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    7. Re:DVORAK keyboard by BillyBlaze · · Score: 3, Informative

      I personally use and like Dvorak, but it has three problems. First, you can't learn only Dvorak, so you have to switch, and this still takes my brain a few seconds, egpcbi ,dcjd C yfl. icxx.pcodv (Mat.o a jrrn jre.w ydrgid) Second, with QWERTY you typically have runs of several letters on one hand, and you kinda queue those up, position your fingers, and type them in one handfall. With Dvorak, because the vowels are on the left hand, you alternate hands - some consider this an advantage, but as someone who learned QWERTY first, it's hard for my nerves to coordinate the hands to avoid transposition errors at high speed. And third, every word, every single one, needs both hands, unlike QWERTY where if you only have to type one word, there's a good chance you won't take your hands off the mouse.

    8. Re:DVORAK keyboard by SlipJig · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Who cares if Dvorak takes over? It's not like everybody has to switch before anybody can use it. I think it's better, and that's why I use it. However, this is a different argument than whether it actually IS better, and whether it was designed for the sake of change.

      There is an excellent description of the Dvorak layout on the web, along with a brief history. The inventor of the keyboard conducted extensive keyboarding studies that fed into the design; nevertheless they (and the studies that followed) can only be taken for so much truth before succumbing to the "lies, damn lies, and benchmarks" argument, usually due to whether you believe the study director was biased. Regardless, I think it's clear Dvorak designed the keyboard because he thought he could improve upon Qwerty, not because he just wanted to be different.

      In a more general sense, I think it would be stupid to think we can't improve on things that already are functional standards. Quick show of hands: how many /. readers think Windows can't be improved on? How about another one: how many people think the plurality election method is the best one possible? How many people even know there are alternatives? (/. readers are an exception here). Criticizing folks for questioning the status quo is just bad for everybody.

      Anyway, back to the point: you're right there's no real cry for improvement, but this could be due to any number of factors. Most people don't even know Dvorak exists; others already know Qwerty and are resistant to change; others have concrete practical reasons for using Qwerty, like the need to use special software like Autocad; or, Qwerty may just be better. Regardless, I don't think anybody's suggesting that everybody switch to Dvorak en masse.

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  11. Re:Then you can't buy a one-handed keyboard for $2 by Chess_the_cat · · Score: 2, Informative

    Mod this up. This isn't even close to a one handed keyboard. It's just a Belkin Speedpad that gamers use for FPSs. They've been out forever. The link is just some blogger speculating about what might be done with it. Belkin isn't marketing one handed keyboards. Just one handed keypads. Stupid post.

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  12. Direct link by Brama · · Score: 4, Informative

    http://catalog.belkin.com/IWCatProductPage.process ?Product_Id=157024

    Seems the technocrat site is already slashdotted.

    1. Re:Direct link by Blind_Justice · · Score: 4, Informative
      Here is the text of the page:

      One-handed keyboards sell for $99 to $350, but here's one that can be had for $25 at a well-known net merchant, and a little more at the CompUSA. Of course, it's intended for gamers, but can easily be made into a one-handed chording keyboard to nurture your inner cyborg, if you just...

      design an appropriate keying pattern and learn it, and write a little software. This is just crying out for an Open Source project. You can help handicapped people, perhaps even influence a new generation of low-budget cyborgs!

      The Belkin Nostromo n52 Speedpad has 14 typewriter-style keys that chord (meaning they can all be read individually), LEDs, a dial, and a game controller with firing button. That's easily enough to make a chording keyboard. You can use the game controller as four shift keys (your thumb rests upon it).

      To make the job easier, here's C code to read the device on Linux. To finish the job, you'll also have to push key events back into the Linux console or X Windows. Code to do that is already available on the net, it's been written for use with other USB devices.

    2. Re:Direct link by JWSmythe · · Score: 3, Informative

      My automagic mirror caught the original site and picture.

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  13. Re:Then you can't buy a one-handed keyboard for $2 by DocSnyder · · Score: 5, Informative
    Saying that you can buy a one-handed keyboard for $25, but you have to roll your own software

    man xmodmap

    As long as the one-handed keyboards gives any kind of output, it can be mapped al gusto.

  14. Re:Then you can't buy a one-handed keyboard for $2 by calibanDNS · · Score: 2, Interesting

    First, you will not risk life and limb writing your own keyboard driver, unless you've somehow decided to add in a force feedback option.

    Second, my bet is that there will be an open source driver for this thing by the end of the week. Just keep watching the comments on this story and someone may have a link by later today.

  15. Re:Then you can't buy a one-handed keyboard for $2 by jimicus · · Score: 2, Interesting

    KDE (and, I believe, Gnome) allows you to configure shortcut keys to more or less anything, based on keys/key combos.

    It wouldn't be all that difficult for someone with a modicum of experience to configure a one-handed keyboard so it becomes very usable - at least for whatever it is you'd want to use a one-handed keyboard for. No need to write code.

  16. QWERTY is imperfect so? by Fallen+Andy · · Score: 2, Insightful

    ...what isn't imperfect. I live with it comfortably,
    with no RSI or anything else. Why squander brain power on yet another weird device? If you really are sitting there pounding away at 100wpm all day then what kind of coding bot are you anyway?
    (and are you thinking about what you're coding?)

    It's far too late to educate anyone about the merits of a new device that replaces an old device wot works. Try convincing the Brits or US that metric is a good idea? 3/8" bolts on the ISS (yuk). (and I'm old enough to remember (ouch) don't want to comment...).

    Perhaps the open source world needs to discuss what we ought to play with (gee: i have this neat
    idea for photographing emperor penguins...) rather
    than the old well worn stuff. Try a sci fi style
    workshop maybe?

    sidenote: Wagtails wag their tails in order to create turbulence. Prove me wrong.

  17. Obligatory Simpsons Quote by laserbeak · · Score: 2, Funny

    Bart: Did, did you lose your arm in the war? Herman: My arm? Well, let me put it this way: Next time your teacher tells you to keep your arm inside the bus window, you do it!

  18. wow by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Imagine what you could do with two of those!

    1. Re:wow by autophile · · Score: 2, Funny
      Imagine what you could do with two of those!

      ...or a beo...oh, forget it.

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  19. Re:Maybe someone can explain.... by gorre · · Score: 2, Informative

    Why this is in the "Linux" section?

    The article contains some C code by Bruce Perens and further suggestions on how to get this device working on Linux.

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  20. software for the n50 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    the previous version of the nostromo, the n50 ( same thing w/ less keys and less orange ) had some linux software written for it avalible here

  21. Small Laptops by Vandil+X · · Score: 3, Funny

    My small form factor ThinkPad has such a small keyboard, it's essentially one-handed.

    And it even comes with a nipple!

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    1. Re:Small Laptops by CRC'99 · · Score: 2, Funny

      Or what we call, a 'clit stick' - cos we all know what it is, we all know where it is, but I'll be buggered if we can actually use it properly.

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  22. Gaming Device by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Interesting
    This is a gaming device. It is not a keyboard replacement. It has been around a long time. It also has no Linux drivers, so I'm not sure why it's in the "Linux" category.

    Other than the title, category, subject matter and content - great post!

    1. Re:Gaming Device by biglig2 · · Score: 2, Informative

      It's in the Linux category, because if you RTFA you'll see the story is not announcing the hardware, but announcing a call from Bruce Perens for a Linux driver.

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    2. Re:Gaming Device by ClosedSource · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Perhaps Bruce should write it himself instead of "calling" for it.

      Being a Guru means never having to do the actual work yourself.

  23. Re:Left Handed??? by wed128 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    i am right handed, but i use a mouse for my right hand. Therefore, with a device like this, i wouldn't have to take my hand off the mouse. It's more efficient that way.

  24. Great for tablets? by mcgroarty · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I've been looking for a cheap one-handed keyboard for use with my tablet PC, hopefully something I could velcro onto the back for use while holding the tablet. Photoshop and Painter are tedious without tab, alt, shift and ctrl. This could be just the thing to provide those.

    1. Re:Great for tablets? by damm0 · · Score: 2, Informative

      I used to have one of these. It was very handy after I had an accident that put my right arm out of action for 6 weeks, but after I healed I wouldn't give it up.

      Unfortunately I dumped a drink on it and it broke, so I'm waiting for them to come out with a newer, cheaper model. It used to be $99. But I loved it, and it would let me type full speed.

  25. It is a game device, so the right is on the mouse by SmallFurryCreature · · Score: 2, Insightful

    so yes this is left handed and I doubt the manufacturer has the kind of production run that makes a left handed device worthwhile.

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  26. Re:Then you can't buy a one-handed keyboard for $2 by The_Dougster · · Score: 3, Informative

    I have one of these things and it works fine. You could probably use joy2key to use it as a keyboard. I'm not sure if the shift functions work or not.

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  27. Re:Left or right? by __aatgod8309 · · Score: 3, Informative

    You could always use the right-hand Dvorak layout here - windows can switch to it pretty easily (i use the standard Dvorak layout myself on MS Natural Keyboard Pro), and there are online stores where you can get 'custom' keyboards and keytop labels if you want them. (I'm not impressed with the keyboards though, which appear to have just had the keytops switched)

  28. It's 1968 all over again by wowbagger · · Score: 4, Informative

    Funny, but one handed keyboards have been around since the Englebart demo.

    Except for CAD, they never really took off - until the modern video game.

    And while I certainly would not want to type a comment like this with a one-handed keyboard, I can see where they would be damn useful in editing a document - click-drag, button press for bold, click-drag, underline (or click-drag indent, click-drag create-subroutine-skeleton, click-drag lookup-definition).

  29. Bruce missed a couple of trains here by Rosco+P.+Coltrane · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Of course, it's intended for gamers, but can easily be made into a one-handed chording keyboard to nurture your inner cyborg, if you just...

    Yeah, so why buy a $25 gaming thing with 14 buttons when you can get a numeric pad? those have 17 keys, have been around for ever and can be had for a buck at your friendly computer recycler.

    What's so different with the gaming pad? why didn't Bruce propose the same thing with numeric pads? hell, why didn't he propose the same thing with the numeric pad section of a normal keyboard?

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    1. Re:Bruce missed a couple of trains here by Grym · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Actually, I have one of these things. I use it for Warcraft 3, Counterstrike, and Doom 3. The software that powers it rules (to the point where, I could see some people consider it cheating.)

      Guys, there's no need for writing custom drivers. What the author is suggesting could be accompished in like 20 minutes with the included software. To be honest, the original author didn't know what he was talking about.

      -Grym

    2. Re:Bruce missed a couple of trains here by Grym · · Score: 2, Informative
      Guys, there's no need for writing custom drivers. What the author is suggesting could be accompished in like 20 minutes with the included software.

      Okay, I was wrong...

      It took 30 minutes. I've posted the files on my university filespace. The link to the files is in another one of my posts HERE.

      -Grym

  30. Another one-handed keyboard by jerometremblay · · Score: 4, Informative

    This one is smaller, and supports both a USB and a Bluetooth connection (so you can use it with your cell phone).

    I only wish they included flash memory on it.

    http://www.frogpad.com/information/bluefroginfo.as p

  31. Re:I have one of these by phildog · · Score: 2, Informative

    (please mod down parent, I accidently submitted before finishing editing)

    I bought a nostromo n52 a couple of months ago. I definitely wouldn't consider it a candidate for a "one-handed keyboard" but it is a good complement to your existing keyboard. Don't let the goofy Slashdot editor limit the potential of this device. The software that comes with it is already quite good. You can assign any macro you want to any of the 14 keys (and with the "shift" key that lights up 3 different LEDs, you can basically multiply that 14 by 4). It also has a scroll wheel, thumbpad, and button. All can be set up to do whatever you want, launch programs, type snippets of text, etc.

    If you shop around a bit for keyboards with a large number of programmable keys, you will find that most are quite expensive. In fact, there is a thriving market over on eBay for the Gateway Anykey keyboard with 124 programmable keys, which I don't believe is even manufactured anymore.

    In reality, I don't actually use the nostromo all that much, as I rely more often on the terrific
    Winkey to set up most of my macros. But I'm happy with my purchase of the $25 Nostromo and do use it from time to time.

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  32. Chording support? by SeanDuggan · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Correct me if I'm wrong, as I've only seen a few peripheral numpads (generally for laptops), but my impression is that they tend to be built the same way as the average computer keyboard. You know, where you can't press two keys at the same time if they're in the same row? If this device allows you to detect which keys are pressed as individual signals, then chording is much more feasible. And I would not be surprised if they indeed allow for multiple keys being pressed as this is one of the major problems with playing FPS games using a keyboard.

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  33. Anyone remember the Quinkey? by DrogMan · · Score: 2, Informative

    The Quinkey Microwriter... I had a left-handed one for a while, some ... 17 years ago, maybe? Look here for a review of one. This item has a picture of one...

  34. Already own one of these and... by ILL+Robinson · · Score: 5, Informative

    I actually own the n52, upgrading from my earlier n50.

    As a gamer (yes, I admit it), I do find these devices useful. After about 4-5 gaming sessions, I became extremely comfortable with the device, and began integrating its usefulness into more traditional applications (like 3DS Max). Given the included software (albeit Windows), you are able to map keystrokes (macros as well) to the device, to which you can reconfigure/reinitialize the mapping through an app that sits in the systray (Loadout Manager).

    Now onto the bad stuff. The n52 makes some improvements over the n50 (extra row of keys, dpad, thumb shift key), however the response of the keys themselves seems to have suffered a setback. While I was never completely satisfied with the response of the n50 keys (not enough tactile feedback for these fingers), the n52 has this even less so. More importantly, the keys sometime stick, making you depress some of the keys more than once in order to execute the keystroke - a pretty large issue when it comes the one thing a keyboard should do well.

    Hopefully, the problems I encountered with this n52 is a defect with this particular unit (/.er's, chime in!).

    All-in-all, the n50/n52 are good and versatile products, and I recommend them for those looking for a one-hand input device - particularly if you come across them at a cheap price (I bought my n52 for $35). The software support is a little flimsy, but Belkin seems to be more focused on this as their products are growing in popularity.

    Another extremely interesting input use... The ILL Clan (a Machinima team I co-founded) use these devices to puppeteer their virtual characters during their Machinima productions/live performances - mapping the keys to facial gestures, lipsync and triggered animations.

  35. My Review of the Speedpad N52 by vjmurphy · · Score: 5, Informative

    Rejected from about a year ago, even, so who says Slashdot doesn't keep up with the times? :)

    Here's my old review, in plain text glory:

    Review of the Belkin Nostromo Speedpad n52

    The Belkin Nostromo Speedpad n52 is a reworked version of
    the n50: both are gaming peripherals that combine a small keyboard,
    a D-pad, and a scroll wheel into a small, ergonomic package. Using
    the included software, you can bind keys and macros to the Speedpad
    for use in games and applications. So, for example, instead of using the
    typical WASD layout on your keyboard, you can map those keys to the
    Speedpad, along with keys for throwing grenades, switching weapons,
    etc.

    With macros, you can initial multiple actions, such as targeting
    the nearest enemy, following him, and going into attack mode, all
    with a single keypress.

    The n50 is probably the best gaming peripheral I've ever owned: I
    find it indispensible for FPS and MMORP games. When news of the
    n52 began to filter out, I was hoping that many of the flaws of
    the n50 would be eliminated, but that the core utility of the
    device would be maintained. I'm happy to say that I was not disappointed.

    Firstly, some of the flaws with the n50:

    * Lame "scroll" wheel was really not a scroll wheel, but more like
    a throttle: it did not have full 360 degree motion.

    * Shift state indicators in a bad spot: the n50 (and n52) has three
    "shift modes" that you can switch between, allowing each key to have
    more than one use, depending on the shift mode. However, the n50's
    shift mode indicators are on the left side of the unit: when you are using
    it, your hand blocks the ability to see those indicators.

    Minor problems, really: the scroll wheel was easy to just disable, and after
    a while, you didn't worry about the shift mode indicators.

    The n52, though, fixes both problems: it has a 360 degree scroll wheel (that also
    can act as a button when pressed, just like many mouses) making it actually
    useful. The shift indicators have been movies to the right side of the
    controller, near one of the new thumb buttons. Now you can see the shift
    state at a glance.

    There's a new row of keyboard buttons, adding 4 more buttons in good positions.
    Your pinky will now be able to trigger death and destructions much more easily.

    The new thumb buttons, though, are a disappointment. The idea is great: two
    buttons above and below the dpad on the right of the controller. However,
    the round orange button above the dpad is extremely difficult to press without

    Pros:

    * Great ergonomics
    * More buttons
    * Better positioning of shift indicators

    Cons:

    * New thumb buttons are a little annoying in placement and use

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  36. One hand on the keyboard, one hand on my ball... by StressGuy · · Score: 4, Funny

    ...trackball that is, I find it an excellent way to use AutoCAD. ...oh...you didn't think that......

    you people are sick.... ;)

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  37. Re:Then you can't buy a one-handed keyboard for $2 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    I typed that command, and my keyboard still doesn't work.

  38. No Hands Mouse by otisg · · Score: 2, Funny

    If there is a 1-hand keyboard, is there a 2-hand mouse?

    I asked Google, and interestingly enough, it gave me just the opposite - a 0-hand mouse: No Hand Mouse.

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    Simpy
  39. Left-handed? Right-handed? QWERTY! by Tackhead · · Score: 5, Funny
    > "yes, but is it left-handed?"

    My QWERTY is just fine, as long as I use one hand at a time:

    Fred was a fat ass
    "Hop on my jolly polonium puppy, you union ho'..."
    Greedy Fred created extra stewardesses
    "Union ho?" I'll kill you!
    Badass stewardesses cratered Fred
    Unholy, huh?

  40. Is this the belkin N52? It's down already by GlassUser · · Score: 2, Informative

    I got one of these last year the the intention of doing this. The problem is that if you use the four way thumb pad as a shifter, it sends the finger key(s) held again when the thumb pad is released. I eventually got to typing on it, but that "feature" severely limited my speed.

  41. Linux Drivers by philipx · · Score: 4, Informative

    It actually does have Linux Drivers: "Project: Linux Nostromo Speedpad Driver" http://sourceforge.net/projects/nostromodriver/

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  42. I have one by g0bshiTe · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I bought one of those for gaming. I was surprised at the amount of filangy strength needed to depress keys. Not to mention that on occasion keypresses repeat and sometimes arent read at all, though that could be a driver issue.

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  43. Re:Then you can't buy a one-handed keyboard for $2 by Minwee · · Score: 4, Informative
    Yeah. "Some Blogger". What does this... whassisname... Bruce Perens guy know about geek culture, free software, and all that? I mean really now. What did he do? Write the Open Source Definition? Found the Linux Standard Base, Open Source Initiative, and Software in the Public Interest? Write widely used software and libraries? Spend eighteen years at Pixar and the NYIT Computer Graphics Lab, then two years as Senior Global Strategist for Linux and Open Source at HP?

    It seems they let just about anybody post to Slashdot these days.

  44. douglas englebart and THE BAT by johnrpenner · · Score: 2, Informative


    when douglas englebart invented the mouse (and windows, and networking, and hypertext, etc.), he made the first machines to use a mouse and a one-handed keyboard so that both hands would be utilized.

    then xerox parc had the alto, but their mouse didn't have a mouse ball -- it was apple that invented the mouse ball, and shipped the first commercial computer that came with a mouse as standard.

    one of the devices that came out in the late 1980's was a device called 'the bat' -- a one-handed keyboard -- you can still by this device here.

    regards,
    j

  45. Re:Then you can't buy a one-handed keyboard for $2 by chickygrrl · · Score: 2
    Honestly why would you want to take the time to write a KB driver for something which was never designed to be a kb?
    Why? For the same reasons people will install linux onto anything possible, or build a bong out of household objects and fruit - simply because they can.
  46. Site slashdotted by Bruce+Perens · · Score: 2, Informative
    The site went down hard and Serverbeach's rapid reboot button isn't working this morning. It'll be up later. Looks like a kernel issue - I'll debug it.

    Bruce

  47. Re:Then you can't buy a one-handed keyboard for $2 by OrangeTide · · Score: 4, Funny

    The idea with open source is that it only takes one sucker to write the driver and the rest can benefit from the novelty of it.

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  48. I own an n52... by detlev409 · · Score: 2, Informative

    ...and an n50, incidentally...

    Both of these models will actually output text in normal applications already, no modding required (running XP).

    Maybe all that needs to be done to make this usable in a windows environment is to whip up a profile via the included customizing software

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    Howdy.
  49. Re:Chording is possible with standard keypads. by OrangeTide · · Score: 3, Informative

    Generally keyboards that have chording problems don't give you break codes (key release) when you have more than 3-8 keys down. (depending on the model). Make codes work fine on all keyboards, to the best of my knowledge.

    The symptom is that when playing a fps you might get stuck in firing or stuck crouching after a crouch-jump. etc.

    Keyboard controllers only report the changes in the state. every few microseconds the keys are scanned (in a matrix pattern). And keys that are down are checked to see if they've been reported as down in the past, if not it's sent out. Keys that are no longer down are reported at up if they haven't been reported before. Generally it's easier to report down keys than up keys (because there are almost always more keys that are up than down). Cheap keyboard controllers have small queues rather than complete bitmaps because it's less memory (the microcontroller they chose might only have 16-32 bytes of RAM).

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  50. OkayKeybees by stickb0y · · Score: 2, Informative

    I can't read the article since it's slashdotted, but if you need to design the keying pattern and write your own software, then what are you buying for $25? Why not just make a keying pattern and write software to work with a normal 101/104-key keyboard to give it a one-handed mode?

    It seems far more useful to me not to make a keyboard that must be used only with one-hand but to make a two-handed keyboard that allows one-handed use when you need it (the other hand's on the mouse, you dirty thinkers).

    Enter OkayKeybees. It lets Windows users define keying chords to make your own one-handed mode. Its GUI is kind of clunky (I found it easier to edit the configuration file with a text editor), and it kind of sucks that you have to define your own key chords (Matias has a patent on their layout).

  51. Re:Then you can't buy a one-handed keyboard for $2 by Bruce+Perens · · Score: 2, Interesting
    It's probably easiest to use the "event" interface to decode the device, and push key events back into X using XTest. I have found it to work for all manner of USB dials and game controllers. You can probably make a code paddle work this way if you're into CW. Imagine CW over IRC :-) There is also an ioctl to push key events back into the Linux console. You can do it all in user-mode, no kernel hacking required.

    Bruce

  52. A site you might find interesting by DaftShadow · · Score: 2, Informative

    http://www.aboutonehandtyping.com/

    I found this site a few weeks back, and it caught my attention. It advertises the sale of a software product (or maybe just information...) designed to teach you how to type one-handed on a normal, full sized QWERTY.

    At first I was interested but skeptical, and then I saw a diagram showing basically how it was pulled off, and the whole thing just clicked into place (home row == FGHJ, use pinky and index fingers to access most of the keyboard).

    I expect it would be a bit harder to pick up than two-handed touch typing, but as I played around with going for the keys from the home rome, I realized that all it would take is training your muscle-memory for a new situation (the keyboard is still fully accessible, albiet requiring a stretch at times to get to the characters on the far right). The only other issues I can think of involve the Shift key... I can't figure out how to press the damn thing. Maybe just learn to switch CapsLock on/off for each capital letter?

    It'd be a cool party trick, though, huh? One-handed typing on two different keyboards? At the least, it would be nice to keep my hand on the mouse at times.

    And of course, if I was disabled in any way, being able to use my good hand anywhere I went would be priceless.

  53. DOWNLOAD HERE by Grym · · Score: 4, Informative

    In case you don't have one of these Belkin Speedpad 52s already, they're awesome. I use it for gaming, and there's no limit to what you can program these things to do. In fact, I might even consider using one borderline cheating if you program the macros well enough.

    Anyway, because I had some with the "profile editor" of the included software, I went ahead (after reading the article) and made a profile that does (what I believe) the original author had intended.

    I did this in about 30 minutes, so bear with me if some keys are missing or if it's a little buggy. All major symbols and lettered keys are included but I still need to find where to put keys like "[", "]", and so on.

    I broke the keyboard down into 4 logical secions:
    1. All function keys / most symbols
    2. Right lettered side
    3. Left letter side
    4. Numpad

    From there, I made each of those sections one of the four "shifts" for the controller. Shifting is controlled via the 4-way D-pad with up being "cycle shift", right being right letters, left being the left letters, and down being the numpad. Function keys are the default. Additionally, because of the frequency of their use, the enter and space keys exist in all "shifts" on the circle button and button number 15, respectively.

    I know this sounds complicated, but it's really not. Once you take a look at the design in the profile editor, you'll know exactly what I'm talking about.

    I'm posting these files up on my university filespace. They're small, but if anybody wants to mirror, feel free to do so. Also, feel free to change my design and distribute as you see fit. (Patents/copyrights are for the birds, imo.)

    To use these files, you'll have to already have to use the software that is included with the device. Directions, which consists of 2 steps, are included within the readme.

    DOWNLOAD HERE

    -Grym

  54. QWERTY Half-Keyboard, and FITALY by billstewart · · Score: 2, Interesting
    The Matias HalfKeyboard is basically the QWERTY left half of a keyboard with a thumbshift key to let you type the right half. Unlike all the other chordboards I've seen, it's extremely obvious how to type with it, and the only thing to memorize is the QWERTY layout that most of use already know. Their main market is a Palm Pilot keyboard - much smaller and more solid than most of the competitors, and it lets you use the keyboard in your left hand and stylus in your right hand - you could use one of these on a real computer and mouse right-handed. I'd rather have a right-handed half-keyboard and mouse left-handed, but whatever.

    They also market to the handicapped market, though their products for them tend to be overpriced - all you really need to implement it is a different driver for a standard keyboard that lets you flipflop both sides. They've got demoware that lets you try it out. And unfortunately, they've patented what they've done, and would probably get annoyed if somebody released a freeware driver...

    Another interesting design is the FITALY keyboard, which is designed for one-finger use, or one-stylus use on a palm touchscreen. Like DVORAK, it's designed for low-travel efficient movement.

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  55. Re:Then you can't buy a one-handed keyboard for $2 by Bruce+Perens · · Score: 2, Insightful
    Probably yes. The Linux event interface part could be. It might be that someone would have to define a C-to-Python link for XTest.

    Thanks

    Bruce