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Are You Ready for the SCO Blitz?

eibhear writes "Over on Groklaw, PJ has a theory that SCO is about to embark on an astroturfing campaign, based somewhat on Darl McBride's repeated comparison of the Slashdot and Groklaw styles of blogging at the recent SCOForum conference. PJ reckons: 'an astroturf campaign depends upon a non-moderated site, which explains McBride's sudden fondness for Slashdot.' '" The whole thing is really fishy, but the story is really worth reading just to see the weird battle occurring between SCO and Groklaw now.

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  1. I like SCO by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    SCO is cool and stuff!

    1. Re:I like SCO by Ralph+Yarro · · Score: 5, Funny

      SCO is cool and stuff!

      Absolutely. As a completely unbiased and disinterested observer I have always found SCO's case immensely compelling. I have bought SCO Source licenses for all my friends at Canopy. They make great presents, especially while the low prices last!

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  2. Pay Up Lusers! by Gatton · · Score: 5, Funny

    SCO is here and we are the rightful owners of Linux. So pay your licenses slashdotters or feel the wrath of Darl!

    Oh crap I'm not signed in am I?

  3. You know you're a 2nd-rate litigious bastard when by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    When you focus equal attention on a multi-billion dollar company and a paralegal's weblog, you're probably screwed...

  4. Re:Lies are still lies. by blugu64 · · Score: 5, Funny
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  5. what's next? push polling? by stonebeat.org · · Score: 5, Interesting


    what's next? push polling???

    Enterprise Linux users would be called up by SCO employees and asked:
    "Would you be more likely or less likely to install Linux as a Server OS if you knew Linux has copied source code from SCO?"

  6. Here's an idea.. Prevent the astroturfing campaign by stratjakt · · Score: 5, Interesting

    By not posting SCO stories unless there's actual news. Like a final judgement that actually means something.

    Everytime one of their lawyers cuts wind theres a /. story about it.

    Don't give them the chance to astroturf. Simple enough. Just regurgitate more marketing text about the awesome power of the iPod or Tivo instead. It all goes to the same place.

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  7. Lets make it easy to identify any astroturfing. by Jailbrekr · · Score: 5, Funny

    If you work for SCO, or are affiliated with SCO in any way, please reply to this message.
    Failure to do so will result in (insert any patent or copyright threats here).

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  8. A Hearty SCO Endorsement from Joe Public by Andy+Mitchell · · Score: 5, Funny

    I think SCO are really good, they make the best, err, Unex, er Unax, Unix I mean. Loonux isn't Unix 'cause its not the real thing.

    Hey, can we move the autocue a bit nearer?

    Using a free Unix rip off is like being a communist and me and my buddies at the steel mill don't like commies.

    </Astroturf>

  9. SCO's side by spellraiser · · Score: 5, Funny
    Quoth Groklaw:

    And he [McBride] predicted that "open blogs" like Slashdot will start to tell SCO's side of the story, and then the media will get to understand what is really going on.

    Allow me to be the first to 'tell SCO's side of the story, then (Slashdot style, of course):

    1. File lots of lawsuits
    2. ???
    3 Profit!

    Sorry, that was just too good to miss :P

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  10. SCO would never do this by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny
    A reputable corporation like SCO would never engage in this kind of activity. It seems very strange to me that PJ would even mention this, because I do not recall Darl saying this in his speech at SCO Forum.

    What is going on here? Has Groklaw suddenly decided to use accusations in an attempt to damage SCO's case instead of logical arguments. This isn't like PJ, and seems unprofessional.

  11. Re:Lies are still lies. by stratjakt · · Score: 5, Funny

    It is the mormons.

    Apparantly through some twisted variation on natural selection, some of them lost an "M".

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  12. A new Moderation Category? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    ...

    -1 Flaimbait

    -2 Astroturf

  13. In the water by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    (btw: wtf is in the water out there? SCO, Orrin Hatch, etc.)

    A lot of it is seige mentality. Don't forget it wasn't /that/ long ago that Utah was at war with the United States of America (and no, we're not talking about SCO vs. IBM). On top of this, throw in the whole persecution of Mormons and you'll get a bit of cultural paranoia. I've worked with a lot of people of the Jewish faith and some will share that a few thousand years of persecution tends to orient the survivors towards paranoia (remember, the ones who weren't paranoid in Germany and didn't flee didn't get to stick around to pass along their genes).

    Granted the Mormons are a much younger microculture, but the defensiveness and inwardness is there. This often helps grow Mormon businesses, but tends to remove criticism and skepticism over false claims by a church member. Much of this defensiveness is still somewhat limited and not an embedded cultural practice - yet - but church leaders need to recognize this reactionary trend and correct or remove members that practice it.

    Still, Mormons have done much to contribute to society. In fact, I'm perpetually amazed that so many don't condemn the SCO parasites and call them what they are as it goes so much against church teachings of open-paradigm systems. Remember, each new family that arrived in the valley was not regarded as another mouth to feed from a finite pie, but rather a new producer to make the pie bigger for everyone. If you have read "Seven Habits," "First Things First", or any other Steven Covey works, much of what you've read is a secular version of Mormonism applied to the business and personal domains. One of the legitimate heirs of the claim to "founding dot-com", Bill Washburn (executive director of the Commercial Internet Exchange, who fought against the NSFNET's plans for an Internet monopoly grant to the regional Bell operating companies and ANS, an IBM and MCI venture) and many other Internet leaders all hail from this open thinking, progressive faith (of which I am not, but have a great deal of respect for).

    Open source shares much philosophically, so it is ironic that one of the greatest haters of open paradigm thought is Senator Hatch, and one of the greatest pump and dump anti-open paradigm companies (new SCO) both hail from Utah. Then again, we all have crooks we have to deal with in our respective faiths and communities from time to time.

    Wake up Utah friends and throw these imposters out!

  14. Just a reminder... by GillBates0 · · Score: 5, Informative
    that Rob Enderle is a Microsoft lapdog and apologist. Some of his choice articles such as:

    Microsoft Apologist Apologizes for Microsoft
    Rob Enderle Announces Death of Bluetooth
    and
    Enderle's Ferrari Laptop
    have appeared on Slashdot in the past.

    This "technology analyst" is also the author of In Defense Of the Microsoft Monoculture and ranted and raved in an "informative" Eweek article about his Windows Ferrari theme and gushed happily about how his colleagues were impressed by it's cool shutdown and startup sounds.

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  15. SCO vs. Groklaw by moexu · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I think Groklaw is the biggest thorn in SCO's side. The media has been pretty content to just print whatever random press release SCO throws at them without doing much (if any) verification at all. Groklaw has been consistenly documenting SCO's actions, court filings, and contradictory statements to the press, which makes it much harder for SCO to try their case in the media rather than a courtroom.

    Groklaw is also something that SCO could never have forseen because it's never been done before. Hundreds of volunteers donating their time to get court procedings and transcribe them, research and debunk questionable claims to the press, and write thoughtful articles explaining the technology being used so those who don't have the background can understand what's going on. It's the power of the open source model applied to law. It's anti-FUD, and it's been the worst possible thing for SCO's media campaigns. Go PJ!

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  16. SCO angry because no one listening to its spin by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    As in politics, corporations do not like it when they fail to control the "message" and public discourse on the message. The fact that sites like Groklaw exist and flourish is one of the few things that gives me hope these days. Sure, Groklaw has a point-of-view. But it is also chock full of raw legal documentation of a lawsuit that is near and dear to us all. I don't need to read SCO's "spin" on their latest court filing. I can read it in all of its raw legalese and see directly that it's full of sh*t...

  17. Re:Astroturfing by boarder8925 · · Score: 5, Funny
    And everyone knows that anonymous posters never get modded up.
    Well, you didn't, anyway ... =P
  18. For those of you not up on your jargon (like me!) by Abraxis · · Score: 5, Informative

    ... and who don't feel like googling in the middle of reading Slashdot posts:

    astroturfing: n. The use of paid shills to create the impression of a popular movement, through means like letters to newspapers from soi-disant `concerned citizens', paid opinion pieces, and the formation of grass-roots lobbying groups that are actually funded by a PR group (astroturf is fake grass; hence the term). This term became common among hackers after it came to light in early 1998 that Microsoft had attempted to use such tactics to forestall the U.S. Department of Justice's antitrust action against the company. This backfired horribly, angering a number of state attorneys-general enough to induce them to go public with plans to join the Federal suit. It also set anybody defending Microsoft on the net for the accusation "You're just astroturfing!".

  19. Re:Lies are still lies. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny
    It is the mormons. Apparantly through some twisted variation on natural selection, some of them lost an "M".

    Oh no! The ormons are coming!

  20. is it me... by SQLz · · Score: 5, Informative
    Or does Darl look like some kind of nasty porn star?

    Check it out!

    Nasty isn't it?

  21. Re:Easy fix... by mooingyak · · Score: 5, Funny

    700000 is just too round of a number. It should be something like, (picking a number at random) anything greater than 720677. It's a good prime number.

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  22. Ahhh.... SCO Licenses by WarMonkey · · Score: 5, Funny



    Ahhh.... SCO licenses...

    The toilet paper of choice for those who don't find $20 bills ostentatious enough for the task.

    Do they come in two-ply?

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  23. Re:SCO are great by Dehumanizer · · Score: 5, Funny

    There are no Groklaw soldiers in Utah! I triple-guarantee you!

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