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Google Goes Public at $85/share

adpowers writes "It is official. Google will have its IPO debut at $85 per share. To quote the article, 'At that price, the low end of its recently revised range, Google raised $1.67 billion, with $1.2 billion to go to the No. 1 Internet search engine and $473 million to Google executives and investors selling their shares.' Trading begins Thursday, August 19th." Got Google?

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  1. Finally! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    I am exchanging every single share of SCO I own for Google. In your face, Darl!

  2. Happy days are here again! by Gothmolly · · Score: 5, Funny

    I for one, welcome our new non-income-generating, but VC-attracting overlords. Where do I get my Aero chair?

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  3. I'm more interested in... by Zugot · · Score: 4, Interesting

    ... how many google employees have become instant millionaires?

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    1. Re:I'm more interested in... by hcdejong · · Score: 5, Funny

      Isn't that what the "I feel lucky" link is about? :-P

    2. Re:I'm more interested in... by AliasTheRoot · · Score: 4, Informative

      Probably not that many, at least in cash terms - plenty will be paper millionaires. Most employee share option schemes have clauses that prevent cashing in on IPO/Acquisition.

      Last place I had shares in prevented us from cashing them in until after 6 months had passed. Course there still hasn't been an exit event, so I still have a batch of worthless (for now) options sitting in a filing cabinet somewhere.

    3. Re:I'm more interested in... by hoggoth · · Score: 4, Interesting

      > I still have a batch of worthless (for now) options

      Count your blessings. When I left a dot-com I was granted $120,000 worth of options. A couple of months later, in the next calendar year they were worth a fraction of that. The IRS made me pay income tax on the phantom $120,000 that I never got. Of course in order to PAY those taxes I had to sell all the stock at a fraction of "what the company gave me". In return "to be fair" the IRS gave me an equivelant amount of 'capital losses' I can write off in the future. Now if I ever make $120,000 in capital gains in the future I will get back the money the IRS stole from me.

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  4. Still a good valuation by markkellman · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Google is valued at around $23B. Even though it is lower than recent estimates, it is still much higher than people were originally speculating: $10-15B.

  5. $1.2 B to go to the No. 1 Internet search engine by scotay · · Score: 5, Funny

    Does that mean the search results will start to suck beacause the engine gets fat and lazy, sitting around all day smoking pot. I know I would if I had 1.2 billion dollars. Maybe they should put the engine on an allowance to keep it honest.

  6. Scoffing Analysts by kaleco · · Score: 5, Interesting
    I wonder how many of the analysts who scoffed at Google's potential value of $33bn rely on it every day to research other companies.

    I, for one, would be lost without it. However, I will be interested to see how it develops now it's under external influences.

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  7. Anyone? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Anyone else see the irony of linking to the Google index from finance.yahoo.com ?

    No? Just me.

  8. Re:Ebay? by w1r3sp33d · · Score: 4, Funny
    Yeah in a year you will be able to get a Furby, a complete set of Magic cards, and a Google IPO ticket for under a buck.

    (actual shipping charged to the buyer, negative feedback will be left, paypal only please, no international shipping, thanks for looking at my worthless crap, you are viewer number 0000000000000000001, sold as is, etc, etc, ...)

  9. Media missed boat on WHY share price went downward by loggia · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Sometimes the media overanalyzes. If you read last night's article in the New York Times, barely anyone mentions that the simple reason the expected share price dropped is that: people did not understand/were confused by the auction process.

    I think that's about it. Nothing very complicated at all...

  10. Beta? by qmchenry · · Score: 4, Funny

    Are we sure these aren't beta shares like gmail? Anyone have a stock invite to share?

  11. Some good here by grunt107 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Although to some pundits the lower price signals a weaker offering, some of this could be to GOOGs benefit.

    The lower per share value was followed by a lowering of shares available. This could generate more interest in the shares, which will drive prices up (or keep them constant longer).

    It does, however, mean the cap has gone down by over 25% (36B to 26B). Still bigger than my bank account, though.

  12. Some analysis by Deag · · Score: 5, Informative

    The Economist has a good article giving analysis of the IPO.

  13. The Beginning of the End? by mkachan · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I fear that for Google, going fully profit and opening to investors might in the long run have a negative impact... Will big Google shareholders be able to influence what appears in the Search Engine? Maybe right now this will be impossible, but who knows what might happen in the future... And what will be the consequences of it for the users?

    Maybe the problem is the following: there is a way in which Google is perceived now that is fundamentally wrong. It is treated as a "service" for Internet Users, the One and Only Search Engine, while it is just Yet Another Company.

    Monopolies (especially privately-owned and profit-making ones) are never good. Will Google become as Bad(TM) as Microsoft?

  14. Money for buyouts? by manmanic · · Score: 5, Interesting

    With an already profitable business, and lots of extra money in its pocket, can we expect Google to start a buyout spree? Some targets might include Vivisimo with their clustering technology, Girafa for visualizing search, or even some of the better Web APIs applications like Google Alert or the GoogleBrowser, as this Wired story suggests.

  15. Bit expensive, isn't it? by jimicus · · Score: 4, Interesting

    After all, the company offers only one basic product (albeit in a couple of incarnations).

    Microsoft are starting to consider Google as competition. And competing with Microsoft has historically been a bad move - I can see Longhorn's search facilities integrating with MSN search such that the boundary between the Internet and the PC on your desk becoming blurred. Google are pretty much at the top, and it'll be almost impossible to maintain that long-term.

    So you probably wouldn't buy this share for growth. How about income? Has Google publicised what it plans on offering in dividends? Even if it did, with no past record to go on, how can you have any idea what level of income to expect?

    Even if you don't buy the share for growth, it's still an expensive share. It wouldn't take much for its value (and thus the value of the investment) to plummet.

    Ultimately, I think this share is a bet that the rich might be prepared (and financially able) to take, but most would be well advised to steer clear of. The dot-com bubble burst a long time ago.

    1. Re:Bit expensive, isn't it? by gbjbaanb · · Score: 5, Informative

      oh yes, it is an incredibly expensive share - current sales are about $268 million, and it's currently selling shares that value the company at $23 billion. That makes a P/E of 85, which is a teeny bit over-optimistic.

      Like, most shares trade at about 15-20 times earnings.

      Which means, as you own a little bit of the company, it'll take you 85 years before the company has sold as much ads as you paid, which manke syou think of those terribly overpriced tech boom stocks. Remember when Yahoo had a P/E of 133, with almost no profits? What is it today?...

      Unfortunately, there's no data about Google's financials published yet, so you can only speculate on what the price will end up as - but if you base the share price on earnings, you'll get the idea that it can only go down. (which is another reason why this dutch-IPO hasn't gone down well, the professional investors think its overpriced too).

  16. Prove it then by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    If the only reason the price went down was confusion, then today when the stock is listed and can be bought by "normal" means, then it will shoot right up to $135, right?

  17. Re:Disappointing by brennan73 · · Score: 5, Funny

    "I am actually disinfranchised..."

    You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.

  18. Don't buy a cent. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    First, pick up and read a copy of The Intelligent Investor by Benjamin Graham (commentary by Jason Zweig).

    1) By all fundamental measures, this stock is dramatically overpriced. (Ask yourself how a search engine -- which could likely be replaced by next years' "next new thing" -- could be worth, on a per cap market basis, as much as McDonalds.)

    2) IPOs usually only make one group of people rich: the boardroom execs. Don't be suckered by the initial rise in price -- IPOs are almost always followed by a dramatic downturn.

  19. Re:was any /.er fool enough to buy at 85$ by Hobbex · · Score: 4, Informative

    I remember Cisco used to be about 85$....

    I love it when people consider the cost per stock as an indicator of whether a company is overvalued. It is people like you who create arbitrage in the market for the rest of us to exploit...

    Different companies have different number of stocks you know. $85 gives Google a total value of $23 Billion (market capitalization), while Cisco is still worth around $150 billion...

  20. Wrong Auction by Ieshan · · Score: 5, Funny

    Where do I get my Aero chair?

    This was the stock auction. The bankruptcy auction isn't for another few months, at least.

    Weren't you alive five years ago? =)

  21. Re:Actual company value by GoofyBoy · · Score: 4, Insightful

    >I do not see how a share can be fairly priced ...
    >why the SEC allows this practice?

    I assume that this is the heart of the question.

    The purpose of SEC is not to determine if a share of a company is fairly priced or not. Thats your job.

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  22. Re:decline of Slashdot by jseitz · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Thursday?

    Jonny, tell him what hes won....