Slashdot Mirror


Composite Of Earth At Night

crmartin writes "Today's Astronomy Picture of the Day is an incredible composite image of Earth from space at night. Actually a composite from many pictures from the Defense Meteorological Satellites Program (DMSP), it's like a skeletal view of the Earth in tiny lights. If you really like it, there are hi-res images up to a 40 megabyte TIFF."

26 of 467 comments (clear)

  1. hum by borgdows · · Score: 5, Insightful

    interestingly, we clearly see northkorea (black) surrounded by light (southkorea and china)

    1. Re:hum by johnjay · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Also, can you find India? Western China could be mistaken for ocean.
      It's interesting seeng how bright the Pakistan/India border is, and in comparison the Afghanistan/Pakistan border is undeveloped.
      Anyone who knows more--Why is the north-west region of India darker than the rest? Farmland?

    2. Re:hum by zerblat · · Score: 4, Insightful
      Western China could be mistaken for ocean.
      That's because noone lives there. It's interesting to compare the night-sky map with a map showing population density.
      --
      Please alter my pants as fashion dictates.
    3. Re:hum by Pasc · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Perhaps a little China-style capitalism would help things out. But that would only happen if their leaders cared more for the well-being of the citizens than the maintanance of the status quo. The influx of information that would come with capitalism would surely lead to some internal resistance to the communist way of life (which seems inseperable from poverty).

    4. Re:hum by darth_zeth · · Score: 4, Insightful

      You make it sound like North Korea was just dealt a bum hand, and its really not the fault of anyone in North Korea that they are in the shit heap they are in.

      which I find amusing, seeing as RIGHT across the DMZ is the flourishing country of South Korea.

      Whether or not you meant to imply this, I think its worth emphasizing that it is the actions of the North Korea government that has damned the nation. Perhaps the influence of China and the Soviets wasn't quite NK's fault, the past dozen year or so resulted in the marked improvement of many post-Soviet satellite states. The North Koreans government ill management of agricultural resources, ill management of foreign relations, and their massive expenditure of money on their idle million man army, consuming one third of their GDP in supporting their army and developing weapons.

      --
      "Nobody writes jokes in base 13." - Douglas Adams
    5. Re:hum by fishing · · Score: 2, Insightful
      You make it sound like North Korea was just dealt a bum hand, and its really not the fault of anyone in North Korea that they are in the shit heap they are in.


      Gee, I don't think I did really... I said that they were crazy and senile. I don't think they did a very good job of dealing with their situation at all.

      Sorry if I forgot to say this.

      I do feel sorry for the average joe in NK, though. I think they've got a really hopeless government that doesn't really have too many good options, nor any bright ideas.

      And I don't think it's the USA's fault that NK is in that position. It's Russia's and North Korea's if anyones. All I said was the USA tried to stop another desperate ountry from getting the bomb by offering a carrot, then took the carrot away. Hell, that's gotta annoy them, whether it's justified or not.
    6. Re:hum by fishing · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Oh, no, I don't think it's JUST that NK got a bum hand... they could've planned MUCH better. The country is a disaster area and it could've been averted. For an interesting analysis of how North Korea and Cuba both responded to almost identical situations (oil being cut off), and how each went to the complete other end of the spectrum, check out: http://www.fromthewilderness.com/free/ww3/111703_k orea_cuba_1.html

      And, I do think I really was implying that the USA was really trying to help a desperate nation avoid having to resort to selling WMDs, missiles and the like by making genuine offers of assistance. Don't worry, we're not all out here with the knives out for you yankees... I have a lot of respect for some of the genuine people in your country. The USA has been a symbol of truth and justice for longer than I've been around, that's for sure.

      But hell, you gotta admit, NK was one of the poorest of all the commie countries, and they were all regarded as pariahs during the cold war... you think everything was frikkin' roses for them, and it's all their own fault? That's not the whole story, I think. Sure their leaders were dickheads, but so are a lot of politicians everywhere.

      Man, the North Koreans went to communism because the alternatives at the time were worse in their eyes. Maybe it was was wrong, but fuck it, they're people. All most of 'em wanna do is bring up their kids and have food on the table.

      I guess, all I'm really saying is this: if you chase a starving mongrel dog into a corner you can either give it a meal and try and tame it, or you can have it try to take your jugular out.

      And, I guess I'm also saying: John Bolton is a complete fucking dipshit, and no help whatsoever.

  2. You just seeing this? by Backdraft32 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I have had this as my desktop for over a year now... I suppose its nice to show it to more people, but its hardly newsworthy...

    1. Re:You just seeing this? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Sorry, but who cares, it's a beautiful picture.

      My personal favorite

    2. Re:You just seeing this? by Politburo · · Score: 1, Insightful

      What insight does this comment provide? "I'm cooler than you?" Not all of us have the time to go to every web site, every day.

  3. What a waste! by keoghp · · Score: 5, Insightful

    All that light headed skywards when it was intended for the ground. Apart from the waste of valuable resources good old Mr Alien can see us!

    --
    For problems, seek only the simplest solution, complexity brings with it more problems.
    1. Re:What a waste! by optimus2861 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      When I visited the UK a couple of years ago, what struck me was the unnatural glow that's ever-present around the horizon at night from the incredible amount of light being poured into the night sky; it looks as if it's perpetually an hour after sunset. Very few stars ever come out. Most of that light was probably from London, even though I was over an hour's drive north of the city. Being raised in rural Canada, I could always just go out into the front yard, look up, and get an awesome view of the night sky, including the Milky Way on a clear, moonless night. I feel some pity for kids being raised in those environments where they'll never be able to see it.

  4. 2002? by Xetrov · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Anyone else notice the 2002 date on the image?

  5. Africa by payndz · · Score: 3, Insightful
    No wonder it used to be called 'The Dark Continent'!

    It's quite sobering, actually. You look at the US and Japan and Western Europe blazing away, and then realise there are people elsewhere who have literally *nothing*, not even something as 'simple' as electric light.

    --
    You must think in Russian.
  6. Re:Africa by frovingslosh · · Score: 5, Insightful

    gee, that's kind of negative. I looked at it as there are still some places without light polution.

    --
    I'm an American. I love this country and the freedoms that we used to have.
  7. Light Pollution at it's best by scattol · · Score: 2, Insightful
    That image is a newer one that highlights LightPollution. You can find out more about light pollution at the IDA's website.

    Actually this is gives just a rough idea of what light pollution you might experience. If you want to find out more, you can look at the The World Atlas of the Artificial Night Sky Brightness.

    If you are in north america, the Clear Sky Clock gives you an quick way to see what light pollution is like on your clock having extracted sections from the atlas. For instance the Montreal clock clock gives this map for Montreal. Clearly not a great location for astronomy.

    But the worst, is to realise that this loss of light results in actual light pollution since much of this electricity has been generated with fossil fuels which produces the CO, NOX, CO2 and eventually SMOG.

  8. Stars by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    It must be how the stars see us at night.

  9. Re: Heeeyyyy! by topher1kenobe · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Some guesses:

    1. This is a composite, which means that the picture were taken at different times. Maybe is just wasn't as dark when they took the western picture.

    2. There just aren't as many people in the western half of the US as there are in the eastern half.

    --

    yadda

  10. Re:Africa by black+mariah · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Then you realize that someone from there would think WE have nothing, because we don't own ANY livestock whatsoever.

    --
    'Standards' in computing only impress those who are impressed by things like 'standards'.
  11. Amatuer Astronomers (and Pros) Cringe by Average_Joe_Sixpack · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Light pollution is overlooked by most of the populace, but to us amatuer astronomers it is a royal pain in the ass. I now have to travel 3 hours into the rural sticks to get a glimpse of the Milky Way (I'd have to get on a plane and travel to Africa to enjoy it in its full glory). I'd be willing to bet that half the US population has never even seen the galactic clouds of the Milky Way ... which is a shame because it borders on a religous experience.

    Not to sound like Smokey the Bear but please Please do your part in help preventing light pollution and save a little extra in your monthly energy costs in the process. Use motion sensors for your outside security lights and timers for walkway lighting. Blinds and curtains to prevent inside lighting from leaking out into the neighborhood.

    You'd be suprised how many backyard astronomers there are!!

    More info on the problem:
    International Dark Sky Association

    1. Re:Amatuer Astronomers (and Pros) Cringe by belg4mit · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Pfft. What about us tree huggers? All that light you
      can see in space is energy wasted.

      --
      Were that I say, pancakes?
  12. Re:Alien landing sight... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    if you were an alien why on earth would you choose to fly around in the airspace of one of the most paranoid countries on Earth who also has probably the most sophisticated equipment to spot you and then spend your time on the ground cattle rustling and wandering around the farms and bedrooms of dumb hick rednecks ?

    I bet you think that makes the alien stories look like silly fiction. Well I got news for you buddy, it don't. They exist, and that's exactly what they do. The sheer implausibility of it proves that it must be true - after all, if we could understand their motives, they wouldn't be very alien now would they?

  13. Re:Fishy.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    I'm sure Launceston in Northen Tasmania Australia shouldn't be very bright either considering its population is less than 80,000. Yet it outshines many major cities.

    My guess would be skylights, tall buildings with lit roofs, poor street lighting design and reflected light from concrete white squares and pavements.

    Ideally an extremely well designed city should emit no light into space ;-)

  14. Re:Alien landing sight... by julesh · · Score: 3, Insightful

    OK, if you were an alien, where would you land? Somehow anywhere in the United States seems to be not a very bright idea. Stupid Roswell aliens...

    An interesting question. Depends on the goals of the mission, I suspect.

    A couple of profiles thrown off the top of my head:

    - Make contact with global leaders

    Assuming the aliens make judgments in the same way we do, I would go for either Eastern USA, Western Europe or Japan. If an assumption is made of global government, Eastern USA looks better developed so I would aim for there. If the working assumption is continental governments, there seems to be a greater degree of centralisation in Western Europe, so I'd head for either Madrid or Paris, figuring that one of those two is likely to be the European administration centre. Probably Paris, due to its more central location.

    - Study the behaviour of the technology possessing inhabitants of this world

    I'd head for an area on the edge of a bright patch, but far enough away that I'm likely to be able to go unnoticed. West China, East Russia, and North Africa all look quite appealing, with little to distinguish between them. I'd probably visit all three, on the basis that there might be regional variation in behaviour.

  15. only on slashdot by maxpublic · · Score: 1, Insightful

    "Check out the cool NASA pic"

    inviting the response, with much wailing and gnashing of teeth:

    "O Evil capitalists of the First World! Indulging in such wasteful light pollution! Bow your heads in shame!"

    Left-wing socialist nutbags, if there's one thing you're good for it's pissing on *anyone's* parade, any time, for any reason. You boys are the reason Prozac was invented.

    Max

    --
    My god carries a hammer. Your god died nailed to a tree. Any questions?
  16. These guys need to learn about PNG by almightyjustin · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Converting the 3,268,616 byte TIFF to a PNG and recompressing it with optipng (both lossless steps) brings the file size down to 1,940,833 bytes. I would expect a similar reduction with the 40MB image (if it exists).

    --

    Omnes arx vestrum sunt adiuncta nobis.