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SCO Says 'Linux Doesn't Exist'

4A6F656C writes "In an article on LinuxWorld.com.au, Kieren O'Shaughnessy, director of SCO Australia and New Zealand, details SCO's plans for Australia, stating that they have 'prepared a hit list' and "would approach Australian Linux users to ensure they had an IP licence." In closing, he adds 'Linux doesn't exist. Everyone knows Linux is an unlicensed version of Unix'." UnknowingFool writes "IBM's lawyers have been busy the last few days. Groklaw has reported a number of different filings. On the heels of last week's motions (1) and (2) for summary judgement, they have filed more documents. First, IBM wants large portions of SCO's testimonies striken (removed) on multiple grounds. Deep in the motion, they call out SCO to produce the 'experts' that did the code comparison analysis. If IBM wins on most of these points, SCO will have very little left in the way of legal evidence. SCO answers on IBMs 10th counterclaim. IANAL but from I understand SCO says this copyright infringment that SCO has allegedly committed on one of IBM's patents is irrelevant to the case and the court doesn't need to decide on it. So SCO is saying that they can sue IBM for infringing on their Unix copyrights and patents but IBM can't counter sue on a specific patent. IBM also filed another memo to support summary judgement. As a matter of law, SCO has to produce evidence to backup its claims. This mountain of evidence SCO has claimed all this time: If they don't produce it, the court has to rule in IBM's favor."

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  1. They must not! by Braingoo · · Score: 5, Funny

    SCO must figure if we can't own them or buy them then they must not exist!

    1. Re:They must not! by kevmit · · Score: 5, Funny

      Well, of course, it's the The Ravenous Bugblatter Beast of Traal defensive manuever.

    2. Re:They must not! by kevmit · · Score: 4, Funny

      Although based upon the idiotic randomness of their actions, one might conclude that the executives at SCO haven't wrapped towels around their heads, but towelies

  2. May the trend continue... by tcopeland · · Score: 5, Funny

    ...ever downwards.

  3. and profit forecasters say by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    "SCO doesn't exist"!

  4. Indeed. by Burgundy+Advocate · · Score: 5, Funny

    I've been thinking this same thing. It's all relative, really. Just coneceptual ideals and data floating around in the aether, aspiring to the ideal form of Unix.

    And for that matter, you guys don't exist when I close my eyes! Neener neener neener!

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    Dragging people kicking and screaming into reality since 1996.
    1. Re:Indeed. by FurryFeet · · Score: 4, Funny

      And for that matter, you guys don't exist when I close my eyes! Neener neener neener!

      Would you stop blinking already? I'm sick and tired of fading in and out of existence. Thank you.

  5. Doesn't Exist? by duslow · · Score: 5, Funny

    What in the world have I been running over the last few years. Was the penguin just a figment of my imagination? Slashdot doesn't actually exist either? And Google?

    1. Re:Doesn't Exist? by sTalking_Goat · · Score: 5, Funny

      I guess my computer is running on the collective halucination of several million geeks worldwide. kickass!

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      My days of not taking you seriously are certainly coming to a middle...

    2. Re:Doesn't Exist? by ThogScully · · Score: 5, Funny

      It's like a Beowulf cluster of several million geeks' imaginations!
      -N

      I'm sorry...

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      I've nothing to say here...
  6. excerpt of article by ghettoboy22 · · Score: 5, Funny

    SCO: Do not try and use Linux. That's impossible. Instead only try to realize the truth.

    IBM: What truth?

    SCO: There is no Linux.

    IBM: There is no Linux?

    SCO: Then you'll see that it is not Linux that you're using, it is only SCO Unix Openserver v. 5. And that will be $699 per CPU please or else you'll be hearing from our lawyers.

    1. Re:excerpt of article by Speare · · Score: 4, Funny

      They had a choice between the Red pill (Novell) and the Big Blue pill (IBM). Neither one will get them out of this rabbit hole now.

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  7. SCO should hire this guy.... by Svet-Am · · Score: 4, Funny

    Hell, he did wonderful things for saddam ;-)

    Iraqi Information Minister

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  8. Wow ... by spellraiser · · Score: 3, Funny

    That O'Shaughnessy bloke sure is one heck of a solipsist.

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  9. More to the story by TopShelf · · Score: 5, Funny

    After saying that Linux doesn't exist, O'Shaughnessy then ran around the room with his fingers in his ears, yelling "lalalalalalalalalalalala... I can't hear you!"

    Afterwards, he went on to discuss SCO's legal strategy of, "I am rubber, you are glue, what bounces off me sticks to you".

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  10. If Linux doesn't exist... by Max+von+H. · · Score: 4, Funny

    If Linux doesn't exist, then Darl shouldn't object to the shoving of the aforementioned inexistent printed source code up his ass, right?

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    -- It's always darker before it goes pitch black.
  11. Contemplating Existence by Gallenod · · Score: 5, Funny

    I think, therefore I am.

    Linux computes, therefore it is.

    But if SCO falls in a forest of futile legal filings, did it really make a sound or was that just wind breaking?

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    TLR

    A man no more knows his destiny than a tea leaf knows the history of the East India Company
  12. Forgive me D.A. by fizban · · Score: 4, Funny

    Can... not... resist... Must... corrupt... HHGTTG quote...

    "I refuse that Linux exists," says SCO, "for Linux denies Copyrights, and without Copyrights I am nothing."

    "But," says Torvalds, "Open Source copyrights are a dead giveaway, aren't they? They could not have evolved by chance. In Linux they exist, and so therefore, by your own arguments, you don't. QED."

    "Oh dear," says SCO, "I hadn't thought of that," and promptly vanishes in a puff of logic.

    "Oh, that was easy," says Torvalds, and for an encore goes on to prove that black is white and gets himself killed at the next zebra crossing.

    Most leading software developers claim that this argument is a load of dingo's kidneys, but that didn't stop Oolon Colluphid making a small fortune when he used it as the central theme of his best-selling book, 'Well That About Wraps It Up for SCO.'

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  13. Re:This is brilliant by tomoose · · Score: 5, Funny

    quote: "...almost an enterprise-class operating system."

    Almost? In the same way that I'm "almost" alive? It's surely more 'almost' than some of the stuff being produced by the merchents more usually known as Microsoft.

    Wow, this is almost a post.

  14. Not quite right... by lawpoop · · Score: 5, Funny
    'Linux doesn't exist. Everyone knows Linux is an unlicensed version of Unix'.

    Small correction: It's GNU/Linux. And GNU's Not Unix.

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    Computers are useless. They can only give you answers.
    -- Pablo Picasso
    1. Re:Not quite right... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      So what does the GNU in "GNU's Not Unix" stand for? (:

      Look! Someone just discovered recursion!

  15. In other news... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    SCO concluded by saying the "moon doesn't even exist", "everybody knows it is just an unlicenced copy of the Earth" which SCO claim was stolen when a large Mars sized body crashed into Earth some years ago.

  16. Re:IBM's response by Dutchmaan · · Score: 3, Funny

    He spends thirty seconds writing his answer, then turns his final in to the astonishment of his peers.

    This guy spent thirty seconds writing "What chair?" ?

  17. Re:Misleading Graph by dapyx · · Score: 5, Funny
    Nietzsche: God is dead
    ..a bit later:
    God: Nietzsche is dead

    SCO: Linux is dead.
    ..a bit later:
    Linux: SCO is dead.

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  18. Re:Backpedalling we a'go... by B'Trey · · Score: 5, Funny

    And the letter after the 'd' is 'u'. It is most defninitely not an 'i'. Although, if he were misquoted and it was SUPPOSED to be an 'i', it would make more sense considering the state of their legal case at the moment.

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    "The legitimate powers of government extend only to such acts as are injurious to others." Thomas Jefferson.

  19. Re:There's a lot more on groklaw by hendridm · · Score: 5, Funny
    Basically IBM has nailed SCO in a box that they can't get out of.

    Perhaps if SCO had studied under Pai Mei they wouldn't be in this situation.

  20. I'll Pull This Car Over! by Doesn't_Comment_Code · · Score: 4, Funny

    Not to be outdone by SCO, IBM quickly came back with

    I'm rubber, you're glue. Whatever you say bounces off of me and sticks to you.

    SCO lawyers:
    Yeah, well you're all stupid.

    IBM lawyers:
    I know you are... but what am I.

    SCO laywers(amongst themselves):
    Damn, that was good one. Do we have anything else? (shuffle through papers) How 'bout "Our dads can beat up your dads"? No. Try this.

    SCO laywers(to IBM):
    You're mom!

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    Slashdot Syndrome: the sudden, extreme urge to correct someone in order to validate one's self.
  21. I was wondering where that guy went.... by identity0 · · Score: 5, Funny

    Gosh, I was wondering where the Iraqi Information Minister went...

    "There is no Linux here!! It is LIES, from the mouth of the evil Stallman!! It is all a Zionist conspiracy against the brave people of Utah! The people are united undet the benevolent and loving rule of Darl McBride, who shall lead us to glorious victory against the heathen penguins!! The infidels shall commit suicide against the walls of our bullshit!!

    Every man and boy in Utah is ready to resist the invading horde of penguins with his life! We have held them off, and are slaughtering them like sheep on the shores of our Greeat Salt Lake! There are no Linuxes within Salt Lake City, as we defeat the avian aggressors and drive them from their homes! Our lawyers are mercilessly cutting them down as we speak, any reports of Novell or IBM winning are lies! LIES!!!

    SCO is great! Praise be to SCO! There is no UNIX but SCO!!"

  22. man ioctl by ravingidiot · · Score: 3, Funny
    For Linus so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten kernel, that whosever beleiveth should not have kernel panics, but shall live in eternal uptime.

    ... or something like that.

  23. Meanwhile, back at The North Pole... by WormholeFiend · · Score: 3, Funny

    I think Darl read too much in Linus' announcement, a while ago, that Santa Claus invented Linux...

    If Santa Claus does not exist, he cannot have possibly invented Linux! I can't wait to submit this new evidence in court!

  24. Also reported not to exist by Prince+Vegeta+SSJ4 · · Score: 4, Funny
    Windows XP security Flaws

    A need for more than 640k

    a Windows Monopoly

    HTTP 404 errors

  25. AND by Prince+Vegeta+SSJ4 · · Score: 5, Funny
    The Darl: - Which brings us at last to the moment of truth, wherein the fundamental flaw is ultimately expressed, and the anomaly revealed as both beginning, and end. There are two doors. The door to your right leads to the Unix, and the settlement of our lawsuit. The door to the left leads back to the Linux, and to the end of your cashflow. As you adequately put, the problem is choice. But we already know what you're going to do, don't we? Already I can see the chain reaction, the chemical precursors that signal the onset of emotion, designed specifically to overwhelm logic, and reason. An emotion that is already blinding you from the simple, and obvious truth: Linux is going to die, and there is nothing that you can do to stop it.

    The Darl: - Humph. /root, it is the quintessential human delusion, simultaneously the source of your greatest strength, and your greatest weakness.

    Tux: If I were you, I would hope that we don't meet again.

  26. Neitzche by GrouchoMarx · · Score: 5, Funny

    "Linux does not exist" --SCO
    "SCO's case does not exist" --IBM

    Coming soon...

    "SCO does not exist" --Wall Street

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    --GrouchoMarx
    Card-carrying member of the EFF, FSF, and ACLU. Are you?

  27. Nah, Linux's virtualisation is better than theirs by leonbrooks · · Score: 3, Funny

    It's a tribute. TSG're stuck at the physical level, we've been virtual for some time now, so far transcendent above mere hardware that it's as if we don't exist. (-:

    I wrote IDG a nastygram about the article. A copy of it's on the GrokLaw page.

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    Got time? Spend some of it coding or testing
  28. I'm trying to see things from SCO's point of view by ch-chuck · · Score: 5, Funny

    but I just can't shove my head up my butt that far.

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    try { do() || do_not(); } catch (JediException err) { yoda(err); }
  29. Re:Market Value by Xibby · · Score: 4, Funny

    SCO: If we pester the blue behemoth in court, and thus bring their stock price down, they will offer to buy us, and we can use this Linux thing to inflate our stock price.

    IBM: SCO is trying to inflate their stock price while while we deal with their legal issues. Lets use our resources to tie them up in court until Nasdaq kicks them off the exchange, then we can buy up the remains of the company. Oh, and collect a group of people infront of the office. We'll send Daryl a picture of us flipping the bird at him.

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    I'm going to go back in my box and will think within the limits of my box: MS Sucks Linux Good I read too much Slashdot.
  30. Yes! by blackmonday · · Score: 5, Funny

    You know they're done when their last option is the Jedi Mind Trick.
    br

  31. Re:Misleading Graph by DjReagan · · Score: 3, Funny

    Irony delimiter?

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    "When I grow up, I want to be a weirdo"
  32. They may be right. by blueforce · · Score: 3, Funny

    Linux does not exist.

    In the universe, there may be an infinite number of stars which may yield an infinite number of galaxies which may yield an infinite number of solar systems which may yield an infinite number of planets which may yield an infinite number of planets with an infinite number of life-forms.

    Since infinity does not exist [in the context of a number system], then we do not exist.

    Since we do not exist then Unix was never invented.

    Since Humans invented Unix and humans do not exist, Unix was never invented and Linux was never invented.

    Therefore, Linux does not exist, as was to be shown.

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    If you do what you always did, you get what you always got.
  33. Re:There's a lot more on groklaw by Greyfox · · Score: 4, Funny

    Darl would have called Pai Mei a "Foolish old man" and had his eyeball plucked out.

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  34. Re:Misleading Graph by southpolesammy · · Score: 4, Funny

    ObHHG Passage:

    "I refuse to prove that I exist," says God, "for proof denies faith, and without faith I am nothing."

    "But," says Man, "the Babel fish is a dead giveaway, isn't it? It could not have evolved by chance. It proves you exist, and so therefore, by your own arguments, you don't. QED."

    "Oh dear," says God, "I hadn't thought of that," and promptly vanishes in a puff of logic.

    "Oh, that was easy," says Man, and for an encore goes on to prove that black is white and gets himself killed at the next zebra crossing.

    --
    Rule #1 -- Politics always trumps technology.
  35. Face the Fax by isn't+my+name · · Score: 4, Funny

    From a thread on the Yahoo SCOX board where the challenge is to come up with the best joke that starts with "Darl, Chris and Blake walk into a bar. . ."

    Darl, Chris and Blake walk into a bar.

    The waitress says, "Darl, you have a telegram waiting, its the quarter-end results." Darl happily takes the telegram and tosses it on to the bar's grill, where it bursts into flames.

    The waitress comes back and says, "Darl, you have a phone call. Its an industry analyst." Darls walks over to the phone, and while talking, he pivots in a circle until the call is complete, then returns.

    Finally, the waitress announces, Darl, you have a fax coming in. Darl gets up, and backs slowly toward the machine, rips off the page, and returns to the booth.

    Blake looks at Chris and says, "I understand the part where Darl habitually cooks the numbers and spins a tale, but what was that last thing?" Chris says, "Oh that? He'll never ever face the fax."

    (:) 2004, the Tubby Nuisance Network.
    "All wrongs preserved."

  36. SCO announces a new hire! by fa098h23fra · · Score: 3, Funny

    The Iraqi Information Minister will be handling all of SCO's public relations from now on.

  37. Mathematical Proof of Non-Existance by AngryDill · · Score: 4, Funny

    Looks like he was on to something!

    We know from the FSF that Linux = GNU/Linux
    Multiplying both terms by Linux: Linux x Linux = Linux * GNU/Linux
    Simplifying: Linux^2 = GNU
    Since Linux is a kernel, it stands to reason: (Linux Kernel)^2 = GNU Kernel
    or: Linux Kernel = SQRT(GNU Kernel)

    Since the GNU Kernel is vaporware, the Linux Kernel cannot exist!

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