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Verisign's Lawsuit Against ICANN Dismissed

emtboy9 writes "Internet domain name registry VeriSign just can't seem to convince anyone that redirecting misspelled Web addresses to its own site is a good thing. A federal district court judge on Thursday threw out VeriSign's legal arguments that ICANN's ban on this tactic amounted to a violation of U.S. antitrust law. VeriSign, which runs the master database for .com and .net addresses, had argued that its competitors had succeeded in stymying VeriSign's plans for its Site Finder service by providing advice to the board of directors of ICANN, or the Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers."

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  1. yes.. because it was... by joeldg · · Score: 4, Interesting

    "a service to the community"

    Those guys actually tried to pull that...

    I wonder how much stake overture had in that.. No journalist has ever approached them to find out their role in that story.

    a service indeed..

  2. Would work... by omghi2u · · Score: 4, Interesting

    This would work if a third-party site that had lists of registrars went up...

    But then VeriSign wouldn't make as much money!

    1. Re:Would work... by rs79 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      You never paid $100 a year, ever. Check your facts.

      There was an "intellectual infrastructure" fund levy added by the NSF - this was to keep the IETF process "pure" in light of more commercialization of the various I* organizations. It was to be used for paying people to attent conferences, research, stuff like that. Congress pilfered it and spent it on Internet2 benefitting the organization headed by the newly appointed head of ICANN. Just coincidence I'm sure.

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  3. What? by cr0y · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Maybe someone can fill me in, I have been following this, but I still don't get how one company can control all the .com and .net domains....Isn't that illegal?

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    1. Re:What? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

      Wow, what a stupid and mean thing to say.

      As for your question, I could be wrong here, but the way I've always understood it is that the Internet isn't under US regulation (as much as they'd like it to be). Verisign is basically controlling something that is international, and is thus not subject to US Anti-Trust laws...

      Like I said, I could be wrong.

  4. Re:After a long drought out legal common sense... by AKAImBatman · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Maybe the knowledge of the judges, lawyers and whatnot is finally catching up with the times, and they are displaying some comprehension of the high tech fields on which they're ruling.

    Maybe the lawyers are catching up, but it has always been a requirement that a judge make a decision based on law. If he makes a decision you don't agree with, then somewhere there's a law that you don't agree with. If he makes a decision that you DO agree with, it's because there is a law somewhere that you DO agree with.

    I wish people would stop demonizing judges, or putting them on pedestals. They don't have much wiggle room for a "good" or "bad" decision. Their function is to interpret the law, even if they don't like what it says. All they can do is mitigate the damages according to what is allowed by law.

  5. If you get a domain wrong... by slungsolow · · Score: 2, Interesting

    If you get a domain wrong, the god damn browser should take you to google or whatever search engine you specified under some settings within your browser.

    Its not like it would be that hard to do.

  6. best example of this by Chuck+Bucket · · Score: 3, Interesting

    or the best example provided *because* of this is http://www.whitehouse.org/. Moce, very moce!

    CB

  7. Re:After a long drought out legal common sense... by AviLazar · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Is it "always" however? I do not think we can say that a judge makes a decision, always, based on some pre-existing law. We do have precedents, and in the case of the Internet - which is still fairly young - we may not have many precedent cases.
    Judges have been known to go against pre-existing common laws and law based on differing circumstances, though this can be related to my first point.

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  8. Re:After a long drought out legal common sense... by urlgrey · · Score: 4, Interesting
    Logic and common sense prevailed here indeed.

    If only this same judge could magically get even five minutes with the patent folks and teach them a thing or two about a thing or two.
    "Ok, folks, there are two new rules for awarding a patent. They are:

    "First, the idea can't have already existed in the outside world before you saw this idea. This means you'll have to do research. I suggest you try Google.

    "Second, the idea has to have merit. This means you'll have to do research. I suggest you ask at least two other people this question: 'Does this idea: [insert idea here] suck?"

    That's it. Meeting adjourned!
    We should be so lucky. :-|

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  9. Re:I miss return codes by donnyspi · · Score: 2, Interesting

    404 error pages are served by the server corresponding to the domain you typed in. if the domain doesn't exist (i.e. doesn't point to a server) then you get the msn search page or the VeriSign thing in the past.

  10. Re:I miss return codes by MBoffin · · Score: 2, Interesting

    In IE, there are options to turn off "friendly" error messages and let the server (not IE) serve you its own error page. It doesn't stop the server from making a "pretty" error page for you, but at least it will stop IE from giving you a generic "friendly" error message.

    Tools -> Internet Options -> Advanced -> Browsing -> Uncheck the "Show Friendly..." boxes

  11. A good thing indeed.. by tirnacopu · · Score: 4, Interesting

    One cool application of this good thing I stumbled upon was one of the so many trojans (don't remember the exact flavour, CWSShredder erased it) which added its own IP address in the hosts file for sitefinder.verisign.com - the result? It took the user several days to find out how the heck the trojan kept showing back, since he only visited 2 (two) sites with IE because of the usual incompatibilities. A small typo, a mhtml:// exploit and voila! The fellow actually thought that the site where he did some e-commerce stuff was hacking his machine.. talk about losing a customer and not know what hit you.

  12. Remember when the day the internet died by wing03 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    At least that's what I remember it being called.

    When private corporation accounted for over half of what was and content on the Internet.

    I think it was 1997 or 1998.

    Sniff.

  13. Re:An actual benefit to Sitefinder by Epsillon · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Love the logic. I hadn't actually thought about it like that. I've been using alternate root servers for a long time now. Whilst the .biz cock-up is a minor annoyance, the thought that if everyone did the same petty companies like Verisign and even ICANN would rapidly become insignificant amuses me ;o)

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  14. Re:After a long drought out legal common sense... by pfleming · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Whether a law is good or bad is subjective. Holding someone accountable for a reading of law that you do not agree with is ludicrous. If you don't like the law work to change the law. Whether a judge is good or bad is going to depend on which side of the ruling you happen to be on.

  15. Meaningful error messages by rs79 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I've always wondered by a browser couldn't chase the dns to provide a more meaningfull diagnostic. For example:

    "No such domain exists" - the TLD servers returned NXDOMAIN

    "The domain exists but the authoritative servers are unreachable" - domain has been properly delegated by the parent zone but the nameservers are off the air

    "The domain is not set up properly" - the domain has been properly delegated and the authoritative nameservers answer with proper NS records but no A record can be found.

    And so on and so forth. Seeing the same "No DNS" since Marc Andresson released the first copy of Netscape on usenet is pretty lame.

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