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Microsoft Unveils A Designer Mouse

jeckil writes "Today Microsoft unveiled the new Starck mouse; a new shiny mouse designed to take the 'cool' from other mice such as Logitech or Apple. Microsoft is calling it the 'first museum-quality mouse.' Looks shiny enough to be on a museum display along with other succesful Microsoft products."

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  1. puhhhhllleeeaaaassseee! by yagu · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The only cause for celebration (their words, not mine...) is more money for a questionable product. I'm not judging the quality of this new optical mouse, just wondering what would make it worth the money (if you "buy", you get links for prices ranging from $25 to $31). Sure it may look pretty, but really, it's another mouse with another pitch from MS about why you should buy THEIRS! Come one, really! A museum piece? I don't think so.

    This just doesn't feel like news. It feels like a free ad.

    1. Re:puhhhhllleeeaaaassseee! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      I don't think I've ever seen a really pretty mouse, though.

      I've always thought that Minnie Mouse was kind of hot.

      Oh shit, this isn't the furry forum! *NO CARRIER*

    2. Re:puhhhhllleeeaaaassseee! by h4rm0ny · · Score: 4, Funny


      Bah. Cordless mice are too laggy and they don't have good sample rates. Not like a standard USB mouse.

      My favourite problem with a mouse so far happened last week.
      "My mouse isn't working, it keeps jumping in the wrong direction" she said.
      The culprit? Optical mouse with promotional hologram mousepad.

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    3. Re:puhhhhllleeeaaaassseee! by Awptimus+Prime · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Face it, half the stuff on /. is free advertising.

      I do find it amazing that simply being negative about Microsoft will cause a post to magically get moderated +5, Insightful when all it contains is negative opinion and nothing to do with the actual product.

      At $25, it seems like a reasonably priced product. Definitely not something you would find in a museum. Mind you, if you will gripe about this products advertising, then it would only be fair to point out how other businesses pitch their mice.

      Lets take a look at Logitech's sales pitch on a MX510:

      "The Red Mouse for Gamers. Break through with the extreme optical power of the Logitech MX 510, the mouse designed with you in mind. You get the ultimate in mouse precision with no lag, and the gaming-tuned software drivers will help you dominate the competition."

      Well, instead of being a museum masterpiece, it touts itself as having no lag. While lag has not been a problem since 1st generation cordless mice (by Logitech), an advertisement for a corded mouse is bringing up the fact that it has no latency issues. Why? Because it will cause people who are not very keen on what "lag" means in a gaming environment. They will be more likely to purchase this product thinking, "Hey, it will help my lag problems". Another thing this mouse comes close to claiming is that it will make you a better gamer and will dominate the game if you buy this product. The "ultimate" precision they claim is also a slight exaggeration since almost all optical mice have similar resolution and precision.

      Another fine example of bullshit in advertising is Logitech's product description for the MX700 cordless mouse. It claims "Business never stops, neither should your mouse." In regards to a mouse whose batteries only stay charged about 7-8 hours under continuous use. Once the batteries have been depleted, it takes a solid 20-30 minutes of charge time to get another hour or two of use out of it. For this reason, I had to move mine from my work computer to my game PC since I cannot afford abrupt downtimes while working on projects, not over mouse battery issues anyway.

      Is this evil? Perhaps. But this is what marketing departments do. They try to craft a particular product image that will always be more fantasy than reality. Attempting to single one company out for this is rather silly.

    4. Re:puhhhhllleeeaaaassseee! by Skim123 · · Score: 4, Funny
      The red one looks kind of vaginal to me

      You realize you'll have thousands of /.'ers clicking now, to finally see what a vagina looks like.

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    5. Re:puhhhhllleeeaaaassseee! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

      Nice post, but your assertions about the MX510 are simply wrong.

      MX mice (using the mouseware drivers or the applet under linux) operate at 800dpi, rather than the 400dpi of most other mice (including the entire MS range).

      Previous MX series mice had a problem, however: 800dpi, at 125hz with 8bit packets (usb), could generate more movement data that the mouse could send to the host. Thus the sensation of 'negative acceleration' that would be found.

      Under linux, it has always been possible to operate the usb mice at 500hz, removing this problom. Under windows however, these was no solution.

      The MX510 fixed this by sending 12 bit data packets at 125hz, removing the negative acceleration when moving the mouse quickly, which felt a lot like lag.

      In short: The MX series do genuinely operate at a higher resolution than most other mice, and the 510 does fix the problems that this higher resolution made.

      On the topic of the MX700, while I can't comment about battery life, it was the first wireless mouse that talked to the computer at faster than 60hz, which is why none of the previous ones, from both logitech and ms, were usable for serious gaming.

  2. I'm thinking of a word.... by JoeLinux · · Score: 5, Funny

    and that word is......pretentious.

  3. Mousie by BoldAC · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Real Picture

    The mouse buttons, I believe, run the entire length of the mouse... which will make many palm-resters click accidently.

    However, $30 bucks isn't bad...

  4. Oh my. by maskedbishounen · · Score: 5, Funny

    Looks distubingly like a vibrator to me. But maybe that's just me. Back to my one handed surfing...

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  5. Am I the only one that sees? by M3wThr33 · · Score: 4, Funny

    Wow! That slit down the middle makes me think it's just a vagina. I can't get a better view, but I also imagine the scroll button placement helps to further that logic.

  6. Cripes! by Quasar1999 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Okay Microsoft, listen and listen damned well, as this is the last time I say this... Give me the ORIGINAL natural keyboard, and the ORIGINAL Intelliexplorer mouse... I don't want the fancy million button keyboards, and the god awful small craptacular mice... I want the originals back! You had something good, and you destroyed them... it's not the 'new shiny blue plastic' that will get you sales...

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  7. This makes a lot of sense by Noksagt · · Score: 5, Funny

    Only the maker of antequated operating systems would make a "museum quality" mouse.

  8. wow... by pinhead22 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    im not trying to be all "anti-microsoft" when i say this but that is a really unattractive mouse! im not a fan of apple so much but damn they have a way of making some damn good looking stuff! how much money would it take to get some attractive pc peripherals!

  9. Uhhhh.... by Sesq · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Slow news day, I take it?

  10. It's just 3 buttons... by Transcendent · · Score: 4, Insightful

    ok, 2 and a wheel, but seriously... museum quality?

    It reminds me of those "modern" art where it's a blank canvass with a line running down the middle.

    To me it's not art... nor does it look good. It's just superficial "designers" (Ugof need silence!) who think people want their mouse to have hidden meaning.

    Sure it looks ok, maybe i'd even buy one if I needed to, but I'd rather have function over fashion. Right now I'm using Logitechs MX500... and I think it looks sweet too.

  11. Re:Wow. by Rosco+P.+Coltrane · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Who knew Microsoft would turn into Apple?

    Actually their hardware division makes products that are as good as their software division's products are bad, and it isn't new.

    The Microsoft "natural feel" keyboard (or whatever its name is) is well build and many people I know swear by it. It's unusable to me, but I recognize a good product there. Same for the optical mouse: if memory serves right, Microsoft was the first to introduce that technology, pretty much to go around Logitech's patent on roller-less trackball and mouse balls.

    So, hating Microsoft's software is a healthy attitude, hating their hardware product isn't.

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  12. One reason not to buy... by Jace+of+Fuse! · · Score: 5, Interesting

    This mouse is beautiful, and it actually matches the theme of my most recent system.

    BUT -- I won't buy it for one reason. It has a cord.

    I'm using the Logitech MX700 Optical Cordless mouse with charging station and I absolutely love it.

    I thought I would hate this mouse at first because it's not designed for either right or left hand use but since I normally only use my mouse with my right hand anyway I figured I'd overlook that fact.

    While Microsoft's new object is designed for either hand, I just can't go back to a cord. I've gone cordless, I've gone optical, and I've gone rechargable. The only thing that can convince me to replace this mouse is one that has all those features as well as being usable with either the right or left hand.

    Maybe Microsoft will release a cordless and recharagable version? Until then it's just a pretty mouse on a cord.

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  13. Wait a minute... by logic+hack · · Score: 5, Funny

    Your posting on Slashdot, how do you know what a vagina looks like?

    1. Re:Wait a minute... by drawfour · · Score: 5, Funny

      pr0n

  14. designer in question by pyros · · Score: 4, Funny

    Isn't he the guy famous for making stuff which is considered artistic and pretty (like go to and art gallery and admire) but functionally useless? Is it supposed to be a foreshadowing of Longhorn?

  15. Microsoft Bob by rd_syringe · · Score: 4, Insightful

    What was the point of the Microsoft Bob link other than to bash Microsoft over something that came out for Windows 3.1 an entire decade ago?

    I've never gotten the Clippy/Microsoft Bob obsession around here.

  16. Re:Apple Mice Cool? WTF by geekoid · · Score: 4, Insightful

    " Apple mice are hardly cool...in fact they're a pain in the damn ass to use. "

    two different things.

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  17. Re:Microsoft Bob by Tim+C · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I've never gotten the Clippy/Microsoft Bob obsession around here.

    It's because they're about the only two things that you can justifiably take the piss out of about MS that actually are undeniably bad. All the rest of their software, including IIS, Outlook, Win9x, etc has its good points as well as its bad. At least with Clippy and Bob, the zealots are on safe ground.

  18. Re:Design? by pyrrhonist · · Score: 5, Funny
    The first time I held my MX500 my first comment was "It feels like a well formed breast I'm touching here, filling my hand in all the right places

    CAN'T... LEAVE.. THIS.. ONE.. ALONE... ARRRrRRGGgghh!

    Dear Penthouse,

    I never thought it could happen to me! I was in Fry's the other day trying out at an MX500. I was considering purchasing the mouse, when a very attractive sales girl came my way. Attractive is an understatement. She was simply gorgeous, with long flowing blonde hair, a tight ass, and full large breasts.

    "How do you like it?", she asked.

    My first comment was, "It feels like a well formed breast I'm touching here, filling my hand in all the right places." I was taken aback by my faux pas of saying such a thing in front of such a fetching member of the opposite sex, but she just smiled.

    "Do you want a comparison?", she said knowingly. I couldn't help noticing her shaply bosoms beneath her tight shirt. I imagined her moaning as I gently massaged her nipples to their full one and a half inch lengths.

    She motioned me to follow her. I couldn't help staring at her backside. She had on tight jeans reavealing a perfect ass. I could not get the vision out of my head of thrusting my purple-headed warrior deep within her quivering mound of love-pudding. I started to feel a tightness in my loins.

    "This is a new mouse by Microsoft", she said stopping at the next display, "It's designed by S+arck."

    My excitement died. That mouse is ugly.

    - Killjoy NL

    Sorry. I had to.
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  19. Unlike the Apple Mouse by gexen · · Score: 4, Informative

    Unlike the Apple Mouse, the whole left and right side's are buttons. A friend of mine tried one out and he constantly complained that because he rests his hand on his mouse, he mistakingly clicked all over the place. The Apple Mouse, although it has only one button, is only pressure sensitive at the top.

  20. Heeyyyyy, nice mouse by rs79 · · Score: 4, Funny


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  21. MS Hardware is Pretty Good... by Blic · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I know bashing MS is required on Slashdot, but whatever you think of their software and/or business practices, their hardware has always been great.

    Personally their keyboards and mice are some of the best being made. Logitech isn't bad, but I haven't liked their last couple generations of mice and their keyboards have always been sub-par.

    In terms of innovation, MS released its first mouse in 1983, one year before the Mac was launched. Though I don't know if they invented the mouse wheel and optical mice, but they were the first major manufacturer to promote the technology. And though I personally don't like the "natural" keyboards, I know a lot of people that swear by them.

    And even though I love Apple's industrial design, their mice are utterly useless. I use an MS mouse with my Mac.

    That said, the Starck mouse looks more like an executive desk decoration than a useful mouse. =)

  22. Who is Philippe Starck? by Riktov · · Score: 4, Insightful

    ...as is says on the web page.

    That seems like a problem right there. How many average computer users know who Starck is? How many Slashdotters know? OK, there are probably a lot of Mac user who know. But if you have to say "this product is great because it was designed by Starck" while most people don't know who Starck is, where's the appeal?

    Philippe Starck is in fact probably the best-known industrial designer of the last 20 years. He's a celebrity.

    But his stuff (among his best known is an orange-juice squeezer that looks like a 3-legged alien landing craft) is the kind that yuppies in the '80s said "Oooh, it's a Starck! I need to get one to display in my condo!" Like I said, there are probably lots of Mac users that Starck appeals to. Anyone who would want a Starck mouse because it's a Starck probably wouldn't be using Windows.

    That's not to say this mouse isn't necessarily ergonomic -- I'm sure Starck's underlings took good care of it. But as far as I can tell, the classic "soap bar" MS mouse got the ergonomics right, and I don't think most hands could tell the difference between it and the Starck. (Look at the touted ergonomic features -- smooth form! Ambidextrous! aren't these the basics that any mouse should have?) This mouse is being marketed solely on a designer name.

  23. I'll take ergonomics over style any day by lophophore · · Score: 4, Informative

    My wrists have been destroyed by bad keyboards and worse mice. That mouse looks cool, but my wrists start to ache just looking at it.

    I want a mouse that is comfortable to use for long periods of time. I need one that has a good 15-30 degree slant up towards the left, like the Goldtouch Mouse. Sure, it's ugly, but I can still hold a beer after a long day of computer use.

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  24. Health Class by MWoody · · Score: 4, Funny

    Remember kids: that scroll wheel is VERY important!