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Apple iPod with Video and WiFi Capabilities?

An anonymous reader writes "Apple is currently seeking an engineer for its iPod hardware division. However, they are not looking for just any engineer. They are seeking an engineer with WiFi and Video integration experience. 'The iPod group is looking for a Hardware Engineer. Experience in the following areas is important: system integration, digital logic, SDRAM, Flash, ASIC's, processor selection, ATAPI, various communication protocols (ie: GSM, Bluetooth, IEEE 802.11, Firewire, and USB), display types and video and analog integration.'"

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  1. Slashdot's posting help wanted ads now? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    How much does this cost? Or is it free for Apple?

    1. Re:Slashdot's posting help wanted ads now? by BoldAC · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Plus... there is no proof of this. This is just some blind quote from some random site! As far as we know, this guy made this up.

      I know slashdot isn't "the press" but something to suggest that this is something more than randomly created news would be interesting.

      New profit model:
      1. Write interest, speculative quote
      2. Make guesses about the quote
      3. Get slashdot to bump your article
      4. Google ads on make-up article
      5. Profit!

    2. Re:Slashdot's posting help wanted ads now? by strictfoo · · Score: 4, Informative

      There are a number of real apple job postings related to the iPod, but none feature the word video. It appears this "news" is completely bogus.

      Here are the jobs:
      Hardware System Integrator - iPod
      Hardware System Integrator - iPod
      Hardware System Integrator - iPod SPG

      Now, how easy would that have been for the slashdot editors to check? Took me about 1 minute.

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    3. Re:Slashdot's posting help wanted ads now? by Jason1729 · · Score: 4, Informative

      I read about this last Tuesday on Apple Insider

      It has more details on the source of the rumor, and this is very old news that's been spreading around the web for a week. It was also on Macrumors and several other sites last week.

      Jason
      ProfQuotes

    4. Re:Slashdot's posting help wanted ads now? by Rosyna · · Score: 5, Informative

      They have removed the various protocols from the listing due to various rumor sites.

      The listings did, in fact, say bluetooth and 802.11 just a week ago when i checked it.

  2. Career choice by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    Well I'd apply, but I'm too busy hanging around Slashdot.

  3. What??? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    What is this, Monster.com? We get product ads as articles, now we get ads for people to make new products as articles so we can get more products and therefore new articles?

    My head is going to explode....

    1. Re:What??? by Stevyn · · Score: 4, Funny

      Yeah, it's one thing when it's articles based entirely on speculation but are at least written by columnists.

      Now articles are appearing based on what's in the classifieds? Next we're going to see headlines like this:

      "Bill Gates is looking for whores!"

      with a link to:

      "Seattle, Washington local single white male is seeking hot blonde."

  4. very likely that it's likely? by randyest · · Score: 5, Funny

    From TFA:

    "The iPod group is looking for a Hardware Engineer. This person will be an individual contributor on a top notch team with responsibilities for the design, implementation, and integration of digital and analog electronics. Experience in the following areas is important: system integration, digital logic, SDRAM, Flash, ASIC's, processor selection, ATAPI, various communication protocols (ie: GSM, Bluetooth, IEEE 802.11, Firewire, and USB), display types and video and analog integration."

    Does this mean we are very likely to see an iPod with a video display and capable of sending and receiving music via WiFi? This is very likely.

    What strange language the author uses there. Is he answering his own question about whether it's very likely by saying yes, it's very likely? Or is he saying that it's very likely that it's "very likely?"

    I think it's very likely that I'm confused ;)

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    1. Re:very likely that it's likely? by ack154 · · Score: 4, Funny

      And I think it's very likely that anyone what reads your post will be MORE confused... :p

    2. Re:very likely that it's likely? by Wordsmith · · Score: 4, Funny

      With apologies to Brian Regan:

      It's many more more likelier. Moosen.

    3. Re:very likely that it's likely? by gryphokk · · Score: 5, Funny


      It's like, "How much more likely could it be?" and the answer is "None. None more likely."

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  5. Expanded iPod by fussili · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Well, Apple's already moved into the 'home broadcast' sector with the Airport express streaming music via 802.11 protocols, so it wouldn't seem too far a stretch for them to start streaming video or DVDs around your house, perhaps onto a vPod.

    However the amount of battery consumption for such a beast would be epic.

    1. Re:Expanded iPod by vwjeff · · Score: 4, Funny

      They could call it the ivpod.

      The ivpod. The only digital music player you can wire directly into your veins!!

  6. Hopefully They will... by Donjo · · Score: 3, Insightful

    ...set the standard for this sort of thing and give other people something to copy off of so we can start getting some better products of this type. I really thought they would have jumped on this bandwagon a while ago....

  7. Disinformation? by sulli · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I wouldn't put too much stock in a job ad. If I were Apple I would add as much miscellany to the ad posting as possible to distract the competition.

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    1. Re:Disinformation? by sulli · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Not necessarily. Supply a long list of (possibly) relevant skills, and then narrow down requirements when you meet with the candidate under NDA. If you're trying to keep plans top-secret, this is a good way to do it - it's not as if Apple had any shortage of candidates to hire, or they hired solely based on the response to an online ad.

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    2. Re:Disinformation? by el-spectre · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Are you kidding? Have you ever seen an IT job description? Most of the ones I've seen are long lists of technologies (that are often mutually exclusive), written to be as vague as possible. I've seen junior programmer positions w/requirements that would make a Senior Architect nervous...

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    3. Re:Disinformation? by stratjakt · · Score: 5, Funny

      Sure, I saw one today that wanted 10+ years of C# experience.

      Luckily I have access to that hyperbolic time chamber. It's hard to code in there though, this pointy headed glowing guy is always throwing energy beams at me.

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    4. Re:Disinformation? by dasmegabyte · · Score: 4, Insightful

      C# is the conceptual child of C++ and Java. If you have three or four years of C#, another three of Java, and another three of C++, I'd take you over a guy who's had, say, 9 years of C and six months of C#. Or a background in perl or something. "10+ years of C# experience" takes less newspaper then "10+ years of programming experience in object oriented languages, at least two of which should be in C#"

      Of course, it could also be written by a complete idiot.

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  8. 2 things by StevenHenderson · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Two thoughts:

    1) Why do they feel the need to complicate the iPod? People love the fact that it does one primary thing, and does it brilliantly. The iPod is expensive enough without any more frills.

    2) If they are just looking for an engineer now, just think how long before any product sees the light of day.

    1. Re:2 things by artemis67 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Considering that their Airport Extreme is geared towards wirelessly serving up music from your computer to your stereo system, making the iPod wireless is just a natural evolution.

  9. Diamonds by Klar · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I'm supprised they aren't looking for more jewlers after making P Diddy a diamond iPod.. damn

  10. job requirements can lie by Infonaut · · Score: 4, Informative
    I remember seeing plenty of ads in the DC metro area back in the mid-90s, in which corporations were seeking Java programmers with 5-8 years experience. I'm not kidding.

    Obviously Apple knows their job announcements are scrutinized, and it wouldn't surprise me if they were casting a broader net than they need to be, as insurance against future needs that may or may not materialize.

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  11. Logical Next Step by Maestro4k · · Score: 3, Insightful
    This isn't too surprising, it's a logical next step to take since digital video runs a close 2nd behind digital music in terms of popularity online. It'd also be a bit of a boon to portable video devices since not having to waste power to spin a disk would give longer battery life.

    The only thing I wonder about is how the MPAA and its member companies will take this. Hopefully Apple's talked to them already or is in the process or they could find themselves with a wonderful videoPod without any way to get movies for it legally. Given their success with iTunes and the iTunes store I'm inclined to believe they have this worked out already though.

    I wasn't as excited about the iPod since I have a portable CD/Mp3 player and it works fine for me. I would be quite excited and interested in a video device though.

  12. Nothing succeeds like success. by Doc+Ruby · · Score: 3, Funny

    I wish job postings for *my* company made it to Slashdot's front page on a Monday afternoon.

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  13. The Ultimate Plugin? by Dark+Paladin · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Apple should probably know by now that the iPod has a lot of "value added" potential, outside of the music player.

    It functions exceptionally as an MP3/AAC/AIFF/Audible player - no dispute about that. It works well as an audio recorder from what I've heard. And it also functions "decently" as a calendar/address book/note taker.

    Apple might be seeing something beyond a "video iPod". Personally, based on what Mr. Jobs has said, I'd be surprised if it went that route. Most people I know don't care to be watching video as they walk/exercise/work/drive.

    But what if the iPod became more of a hub? Take the current Airport Express device - 802.11 device plus audio player and print server. What if your iPod could wirelessly transmit audio to it, so you wouldn't need another computer on all the time - just pick up the iPod, and it would be like a little remote. Or you enter the room with your iPod, and the Airport Express starts playing what's on there, so you have seamless music from your earphones to your speakers.

    Imagine if that could be done with video as well - just take the videos you made with iMovie or one of Apple's major movie editors, and plunk it onto the iPod. Now you can go to the other room and demo the movie on the TV set.

    Remember how The Lord of the Rings was downloaded onto iPods and transferred to the editing room? Imagine a digital video camera that, instead of a small tape, just plugged in an iPod - direct from video to hard drive, and then just plug it into the computer and edit away. Or, if you have a digital camera, same thing - and now you can wirelessly transmit those photos to your computer for editing/emailing and the like.

    So rather than a "video iPod", I wonder if Apple won't make the iPod an extension of the "digital hub" idea. Of course, knowing Apple, those features will work best with a Mac - but if they get other companies like HP to jump on the bandwagon and support these functions with their devices and software, Apple won't care - they'll still be selling iPods and cashing in the checks at the bank.

    Of course, just an idea. I could be wrong.

  14. Re:it shows you that... by jared_hanson · · Score: 5, Informative

    /me raises hand.

    I usually don't reply to ACs, but the Objective-C bashing is just ignorant. Objective-C is not used much outside of the Mac OS X development community, but that does not make it a bad language. I've programmed fairly extensively in it, and I can say that it is a truly incredible language that makes tasks really simple. It is a true object oriented language (everything inherits from NSObject) yet you still get to keep pointers, which gives you a lot of power as well. It has the power of C++ and the ease of use of Java or C#.

    I have yet to meet anyone with significant experience in Objective-C who can say they dislike the language.

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  15. Re:Archos functionality + Apple design = the a nsw by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    bells and whistles != good device.

  16. Re:it shows you that... by jcr · · Score: 3, Funny

    It has the power of C++ and the ease of use of Java or C#.

    Ouch!

    I know Obj-C isn't perfect, but saying it has the ease of use of Java or C# is a bit harsh.

    -jcr

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  17. How can I get one of this... by NeoCode · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Oh vanity, thou name is a dimond studded ipod

  18. Apple Psyops... by macthulhu · · Score: 4, Interesting
    I think they get together in the boardroom once in a while and come up with stories to mess with people. Apple has a history of setting the bar on new tech, yet they don't (for various reasons) often get the credit for doing so. Perhaps it's a dual effort... Their "competitors" get thrown into confusion trying to figure out who they'll need to reverse engineer the product as soon as it's available, and the forums on places like /. go crazy trying to speculate what it is, and how it will perform... despite complete ignorance to what the product is.

    If I were running Apple, I would do it just to read what all of us armchair quarterback types have to say about it. Think about it... People's guesses may be combinations of tech that Apple didn't think of yet, and they get free market feasability research at the same time. Plus, it's funny.

    Of course, if I were running Apple I'd stop making products that get handled a lot out of white plastic (iPods, keyboards, and the like).

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  19. I qualify with my A+ cert!! by Mateito · · Score: 4, Funny
    Experience in the following areas is important:

    system integration - Check. I installed Samba last week

    digital logic - Check. That's ones and zeros, right?

    SDRAM - Check. I use that in my camera

    Flash - Check. I flashed my DVD-rom thingy to be region free

    ASIC - Um. That's like a CPU for a nintendo.

    processor selection - Check. AMD beats Intel every time. Only fan boys use Intel.

    ATAPI - Check. I've installed Harddrives before

    various communication protocols (ie: GSM, Bluetooth, IEEE 802.11, Firewire, and USB) - Check: I've got a GSM phone and a USB flash drive.

    display types and video and analog integration. - Check. How easy peasy! Just match the colors on the cable plugs and the sockets.

    Apple, here I come!

    Wonder if I should change my name to "iMateito"?

  20. Re:it shows you that... by jared_hanson · · Score: 3, Funny

    You're right. Obj-C is so much better that those two its not even funny.

    The only reason I'm replying is to congratulate you on the benign post. Oh god, lame hex humor. I truly apologize. If I wasn't programming registers on a chip today that joke would never have happened. I promise. I'm going to crawl into a corner now.

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  21. Does no one else have an Apple ID? by Have+Blue · · Score: 5, Informative
    Sign into Apple's job site and go to job requisition ID 2142016 . You should find this:
    The iPod group is looking for a Hardware Engineer. This person will be an individual contributor on a top notch team with responsibilities for the design, implementation, and integration of digital and analog electronics. The applicant should be familiar with computer system architecture and digital design. Duties include schematic capture, prototype bring-up and debugging, hardware bug tracking, functional verification, signal characterization, and manufacturing support.

    The ideal candidate is someone from a consumer electronics background dealing with high volume, low power, high quality products.

    Required Experience:
    • BS/MS EE or equivalent required.
    • Must have great EE fundamentals.
    • 5+ years overall experience needed, 3+ years in a lead role preferred.
    • Experience in the following areas is important: system integration, digital logic, SDRAM, Flash, ASIC's, processor selection, ATAPI, various communication protocols, display types and analog integration.
    • Broad experience: both digital and analog.
    • Experience building actual products in labs.
    Note that there is nothing in there about video or wireless; the parenthetical expression in the article text was added by the reporter and the video integration comment is completely out of left field. This is either extremely wishful thinking on the part of Overclockers Club or an outright fabrication.
    1. Re:Does no one else have an Apple ID? by slashdot.org · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Of course you failed to mention the other alternative, which is that Apple _removed_ that section. (which is, what it sounds like, what happened)

      Still, looking at job adds is an old trick for competitors and journalist to 'research' a company, and Apple of all places should know that.

      On the other hand, it's not terribly reliable though. I've known plenty of companies that posted job openings that did not exist, just to get competitors on the wrong foot.

      So this 'news' really isn't 'news'. What it basically says is either:
      a) Apple is going to do something with video; their job add said so and then they tried to cover it up, see?
      or:
      b) Apple wants there to be some spread of rumors about video; they released a fake job add and then deleted certain parts to make it more believable.

      (b) is maybe too tin-foil, but if I can think of it, I'm sure the people at Apple can too.

  22. Is this free for Apple? by mykepredko · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I would think that a want ad posted on /. would be the worst case scenario for any HR department. Instead of looking at three or four people that do have the requisite knowledge and skills, Apple is going to be so overwhelmed with thousands of people claiming to have experience in all the areas ("hey, I hooked up my own WiFi network at home, can plug in USB flash disk keys and I can almost always transfer my digital videos") that they are going to go nuts vetting and responding.

    A more interesting story might be is hearing how Apple worked through all the applications this piece generated.

    myke

  23. Re:Ok, we know /. is anti-M$ by anthonyclark · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It's simple, really. /. is a privately owned site. It isn't the BBC with some kind of public charter that specifically says 'we are unbiased'.

    Plus the /. crew love apple hardware :-)

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  24. Re:job description continues: by proj_2501 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    the pricing of anything other than basic human requirements is not an ethical concern.

  25. Still no radio? by s7uar7 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    You can keep your wi-fi and video, the main thing that puts me off buying an iPod is the lack of FM radio for listening to sport & talk radio. Seriously, how much would it cost Apple to add such a simple feature?

  26. Important distinction by realinvalidname · · Score: 3, Insightful

    iPod group, not necessarily iPod product. It's possible that this group will evolve into a multi-faceted consumer electronics effort, but there's no point in Apple publicly acknowledging as much now. So for now, they call it the "iPod" group, after its one product.

    Or, maybe someone actually wants to watch videos on a twinkie little 2" screen.

    --realinvalidname

  27. Re:No wifi/video..but maybe a built in FM transmit by Oculus+Habent · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Remote sounds most likely. I see a couple possibilities...

    1. AirTunes-capable überDock. Play AirTunes from your iPod over 802.11g with a Bluetooth remote. This would involve the various protocols: FireWire & USB for the dock, 802.11g for the network, Bluetooth for the remote...

    2. iPod PVR? Store video to your iPod & play it at any A/V capable dock or computer. Not, repeat not to play video on your iPod. Just as you can purchase audio copies of various radio broadcasts, you could purchase video copies of television programs at the Apple Media Store. Same simple anti-copy restrictions would apply. H.264 codec w/ FairPlay wrapper?

    I don't see Apple putting the time and money into making the iPod more expensive for a feature set that so few people will use (wireless xfer, video iPod).

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