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Mozilla.org Relaunched
mpeach writes "Mozilla Organization has launched its new Web site and it's looking a fair bit sleeker than it used to. No new product releases to go with the new look unfortunately, but, according to the Firefox 1.0 Roadmap, release candidates of the latest browser are getting closer by the day."
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.3) Gecko/20040901 Firefox/1.0 PR (NOT FINAL)
as of 09/01/2004... Broke some extensions BTW!
Dear aunt, let's set so double the killer delete select all
So /. renders really poorly in Gecko, as do a myriad of other sites.
Is that Firefox's problem for not gracefully accepting broken HTML? Or is it those web developers who write the broken HTML?
Why not actually compare it to the previous design they had?
...release candidates of the latest browser are getting closer by the day.
Isn't that kind of how time works?
"The object of war is not to die for your country, but to make the other bastard die for his." - Patton
I, for one, think they have made some great UI improvements. Most people don't hit moz.org seeking news and whatnot about the project. Instead, they just want to know where to get The Better Browser(TM). More than once, I've had to hold a few slower-than-I'd-like hands in finding where to download the latest and greatest version of Moz and variants. I just wonder why they featured FireFox so prominently and put the full version of Moz in the "bottom" row.
Slow news day or infatuated with Mozilla? Heck, I like Mozilla and use it at home and work, but I don't drop everything to see what's happened with their website in the last day. Gee willikers.
Here's some other fine articles which could probably have been posted:
Philadelphia Considering Free or Low Cost Wireless For All
Microsoft to Exploit Japan's Post Offices to deliver SP2 (their word, not mine!)
The Road Ahead, According to Steve Ballmer
X-Rays Reveal Mummy Faces (Low Cancer Risk to Mummy)
Owls Use Poop to Lure Beetles
A feeling of having made the same mistake before: Deja Foobar
how Firefox is being plugged. It's pretty obvious IMHO from the site that Firefox has the wind in its sails so to speak, as it's offered for download (geared to your OS, nice) with a biggo font. If you want Mozilla, you have some more clicks to go. Does that mean that Mozilla will be superseded at some point by Firefox??
----- One learns to itch where one can scratch.
Mozilla.org has been looking at your user agent for quite a while to determine which OS you are using and offer you the appropriate download.
If you use Windows or a Mac, you'll get offered the downloads for those initially instead.
They shouldn't be using "Free download" as the prominent eye-catching link. "Free download" does not mean the software is free, only that it costs nothing to download it. This semantic fuzziness is often used by commercial software vendors (and spammers) as a way to entice people to download trial and/or crippled software. They should instead say something like "Free software", "Free to get, free to use", anything that doesn't have the bad vibe that comes with "free download"
"Only the small secrets need to be protected. The big ones are kept secret by public incredulity." - Marshall McLuhan
Let's talk understatement here. You don't offer this kind of thing without a significant commitment to the package.
A feeling of having made the same mistake before: Deja Foobar
Mirrored here.
Right is wrong when left is right.
from http://www.mozilla.org/roadmap.html
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"Extra Anus Kills Four-Legged Chick" -- Headline
Links to the bleeding edge 1.8 Alpha versions are not immediately apparent...why?
That was the first thing I noticed, I'd have to guess they are trying to go more mainstream and make downloading their brower less ambiguous for the masses.
(Yes, I use Firefox ;-) )
-Rob
Marriage doesn't have to suck!
It seems the website knows what system I'm running, as they offer for me to download the OS X version of Firefox, yet the screenshot of it to the right shows the Windows version. It'd be nice if they tailored this page to me a bit more and showed a screenshot with OS X chrome.
While I don't agree with most of your post, I do agree that this item didn't really deserve its own article. The problem is that we don't get Quickies anymore. Remember those? One article that referred to several small items, all worthy of a nerd's attention but not important enough to warrant their own separate articles. For some reason, we don't see those anymore. I thought they were quite fun. A lot of fun's been taken out of /. lately... :(
I'm just glad the got rid of that damn "find toolbar".
Dear $deity in heaven, why would they screw up a perfectly good feature like find as you type?
Insult to injury was when typing in passwords to my Novell server, the new find bar proudly displayed my password in plain view. Thank the same $deity no one was around, and my monitor faces a wall.
Why didn't they just add a Clippy type character that can speak through the voice software in windows:
"It looks like you are typing in "$password" as your password, would you like some help typing in your passwords?"
Whoever thought that find bar up deserves 10 lashes with a cat5 o' 9 tails.
Have you read the moderator guidelines? Well, have you, PUNK? (and I want a Karma: Gnarly option)
What worries me though is that very old and critical bugs like Bug 115174 are not considered important enough as to be release blockers. For the lazy to look this up, this bug manifests in realoading a dynamically generated page in certain cases, which may result in double-charging your credit card when you have just made a purchase and simply want to save your receipt. This bug is present in both Mozilla and Firefox and has been an issue since 2002!
I have been using Mozilla and Firefox exclusively for the past couple of years and have to say that this is a PITA. I got used to it and know which sites I regularly visit are problematic and how to get around it (save as text or print to file). But a lot of users might get hit by this bug if Firefox becomes more widespread and they would rightfully be pissed.
Another problem I have is that since about version 1.3 (or earlier?), Mozilla, and later Firefox, have been unstable and crashing a lot (e.g. once or twice a week under heavy load). I don't know is this is a Linux-only issue (I only use Red Hat 9 and Fedora core 2), but they seem to have a memory leak and that's not good if it creeps into the 1.0 release. I would gladly submit a bug report for this if I only knew how to reproduce it...
It looks great. Awesome. Great new site.
Expect lets make it more clear that Moz is free. "Free Download" makes me think of a demo, or a trial, or the __download__ is free but might cost more later.
It should say "x is a FREE product. Free to own and use forever."
http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=217527