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Mozilla.org Relaunched
mpeach writes "Mozilla Organization has launched its new Web site and it's looking a fair bit sleeker than it used to. No new product releases to go with the new look unfortunately, but, according to the Firefox 1.0 Roadmap, release candidates of the latest browser are getting closer by the day."
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.3) Gecko/20040901 Firefox/1.0 PR (NOT FINAL)
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So /. renders really poorly in Gecko, as do a myriad of other sites.
Is that Firefox's problem for not gracefully accepting broken HTML? Or is it those web developers who write the broken HTML?
I'm glad that the creative designers behind the firefox look finally got a crack at the homepage. IMO it gives the browser much better more credibility if it has a professional looking website. Not just like some hodge-podge browser. *warning ... blatant plug to get me free stuff following
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Why not actually compare it to the previous design they had?
...release candidates of the latest browser are getting closer by the day.
Isn't that kind of how time works?
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Soon as that is fixed I'll recommend it to my mother.
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I didn't realize that a new template was front page news here on slashdot... either that or its a VERY slow news day.
I, for one, think they have made some great UI improvements. Most people don't hit moz.org seeking news and whatnot about the project. Instead, they just want to know where to get The Better Browser(TM). More than once, I've had to hold a few slower-than-I'd-like hands in finding where to download the latest and greatest version of Moz and variants. I just wonder why they featured FireFox so prominently and put the full version of Moz in the "bottom" row.
Slow news day or infatuated with Mozilla? Heck, I like Mozilla and use it at home and work, but I don't drop everything to see what's happened with their website in the last day. Gee willikers.
Here's some other fine articles which could probably have been posted:
Philadelphia Considering Free or Low Cost Wireless For All
Microsoft to Exploit Japan's Post Offices to deliver SP2 (their word, not mine!)
The Road Ahead, According to Steve Ballmer
X-Rays Reveal Mummy Faces (Low Cancer Risk to Mummy)
Owls Use Poop to Lure Beetles
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how Firefox is being plugged. It's pretty obvious IMHO from the site that Firefox has the wind in its sails so to speak, as it's offered for download (geared to your OS, nice) with a biggo font. If you want Mozilla, you have some more clicks to go. Does that mean that Mozilla will be superseded at some point by Firefox??
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What I found amusing was that when I clicked on their new website in Konqueror, it crashed. Subtle coding ploy? ;)
It worked the second time... I got a grin out of it, though.
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Mozilla.org has been looking at your user agent for quite a while to determine which OS you are using and offer you the appropriate download.
If you use Windows or a Mac, you'll get offered the downloads for those initially instead.
They shouldn't be using "Free download" as the prominent eye-catching link. "Free download" does not mean the software is free, only that it costs nothing to download it. This semantic fuzziness is often used by commercial software vendors (and spammers) as a way to entice people to download trial and/or crippled software. They should instead say something like "Free software", "Free to get, free to use", anything that doesn't have the bad vibe that comes with "free download"
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Let's talk understatement here. You don't offer this kind of thing without a significant commitment to the package.
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Were they stuck for something to do when they realised they no longer had to keep renaming Phoenix/Firebird/Firefox?
Mirrored here.
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OK, so this is off topic. But I just tried the new MSN music site and some of the buttons (like search) don't work in FireFox. What a piece of crap. I'm going back to IE. (just kidding, about going back that is. The search button really is DOA).
from http://www.mozilla.org/roadmap.html
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Links to the bleeding edge 1.8 Alpha versions are not immediately apparent...why?
That was the first thing I noticed, I'd have to guess they are trying to go more mainstream and make downloading their brower less ambiguous for the masses.
(Yes, I use Firefox ;-) )
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Looks nice, And valid too! :-)
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It seems the website knows what system I'm running, as they offer for me to download the OS X version of Firefox, yet the screenshot of it to the right shows the Windows version. It'd be nice if they tailored this page to me a bit more and showed a screenshot with OS X chrome.
While I don't agree with most of your post, I do agree that this item didn't really deserve its own article. The problem is that we don't get Quickies anymore. Remember those? One article that referred to several small items, all worthy of a nerd's attention but not important enough to warrant their own separate articles. For some reason, we don't see those anymore. I thought they were quite fun. A lot of fun's been taken out of /. lately... :(
I'm just glad the got rid of that damn "find toolbar".
Dear $deity in heaven, why would they screw up a perfectly good feature like find as you type?
Insult to injury was when typing in passwords to my Novell server, the new find bar proudly displayed my password in plain view. Thank the same $deity no one was around, and my monitor faces a wall.
Why didn't they just add a Clippy type character that can speak through the voice software in windows:
"It looks like you are typing in "$password" as your password, would you like some help typing in your passwords?"
Whoever thought that find bar up deserves 10 lashes with a cat5 o' 9 tails.
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Does anyone know how well Firefox integrates with Thunderbird? Specifically, if I click on a "mailto" link in Firefox, will it pull up Thuderbird without any custom configuration (assuming Thunderbird is installed)?
Last I looked into this, Firefox and Thunderbird would not work together like this "out of the box". This was a real bummer, and it made me wonder if Firefox wasn't being targeted a little too much at the geek community. Compared to the simple integration of IE and Outlook Express, the Firefox/Thunderbird integration was really clumsy.
(On a side note, it kinda irritates me that Firefox is being pushed so hard over Mozilla. I've had a few clients download Firefox (thinking it was a Mozilla update), and then wonder why they couldn't get to their email program anymore when it replaced all of the Mozilla icons...)
It looks great. Awesome. Great new site.
Expect lets make it more clear that Moz is free. "Free Download" makes me think of a demo, or a trial, or the __download__ is free but might cost more later.
It should say "x is a FREE product. Free to own and use forever."
I agree that Firefox is a heading in new avenues of user friendliness, but there is nothing wrong with the Mozilla Suite for its target audience.
Furthermore, there are some serious issues with Firefox (not the browser itself, but the whole movement/its existence itself):
Why can't Mozilla Mail, Mozilla Addressbook, Mozilla Composer etc. be available as simple extensions? There seems to be tonnes of nifty new extensions, but making these extensions would be great.
Also, there should be a proper way to manage extensions, which should not rely solely on the profile, which can easily be lost (at least for the stuff that are installed in the installation tree and not the profile.) I admit Mozilla Suite doesn't have it, but everyone says it sucks, so one doesn't expect anything good from it, right ;-)
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Like the topic says, in IE I get 'Error: Object Expected'. If the site is broken in the browser people are going to be using to look at the site for the first time, what are people going to think about the browser Mozilla wants you to use?
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http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=217527
Actually the screenshot is the default theme.
Its actually a lot better looking if you right-click>customize>use small icons. I thought I'd be busy downloading themes, but the ugly default theme is actually pretty handsome and useable when using "small icons."
Firefox 0.9.3, and all others before it, on my WinXP machine, have had the same problem - sometimes the text renders too far to the left overlapping the side menu. This is a well known problem. A quick refresh fixes the rendering, so it is not a big deal. But you would think that by now, so close to 1.0, such an obvious problem would have been taken care of.
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So /. renders really poorly in Gecko,
/.'s IT section in an absolutely putrid color scheme spawned from at least the 9th circle of hell. I wish those lazy developers over at mozilla.org would actually get around to fixing some bugs instead of just working on a slick web presence that looks incredibly tight and professional.
It's a huge problem for me as well! Firefox renders
From what I've heard, it's a problem with Slashdot's noncompliant HTML, not a Firefox problem. However, since /. seems unwilling to actually do anything about it (apparently the editors don't use the actual site enough to care), the Mozilla people are trying to work around it.
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