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Time-Shifting For The iPod
depechemodem writes "This story at ExtremeiPod talks about a new piece of software from Adam Curry called iPodder (now at Sourceforge) which uses RSS feeds with MP3 enclosures to stream audio to iTunes. The best part is that those streams can be saved as clips automatically on to your iPod or other MP3 player for later listening making this the first portable time-shifted Internet audio application. The code is alse being ported to Windows."
Good to see he's still in the music business. Does he still have that outrageous hair? And the acid-washed jeans?
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I constantly timeshift radio using Audiohijack Pro. Every morning, NPR's Morning Edition is recorded and waiting for iTunes to transfer it to my iPod for my morning commute.
Won't Apple get upset about the use of the "iPod" trademark in the product's name?
And won't the NMPA and RIAA start to female-dog about it being a copyright infringement tool? No, sharing your own songs may not be a substantial non-infringing use under Betamax because what you call "your own songs" could likely be either covers or subconscious infringements.
I smell cease and desist.
It downloads Internet Radio streams and lets you play them back as MP3s later. Just like Tivo does for TV (allowing you to skip commercials with a slider bar) you can now do that with your favorite MP3 player (including the ever so popularly advertised iPod).
time-shifted Internet audio application
So basically, using an RSS and MP3 wrapper, they've created the 21st century equivalent of a tape recorder hooked up to a radio...
"Timeshifted" is the new "previously recorded".
So basically, if I understand this right, it's an app that records audio from the internet then automagically siphons it off to an iPod. Clever....even without the jargon and catchphrases.
-Randy
and I thought the iPod was just an mp3 player! ;) Seriously, if you watch the development of the device, and consider all of the software being developed for it, it's no wonder Apple isn't running about making another Neuton...in effect, they almost have! I look for the iPod to do a ton more things come January 2005. I for one plan on playing with Linux on mine, then seeing what else I can do with that's cool and new.
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So how about having this as a browser independent plugin?
It's transferring a file. From an RSS feed to another folder (iPod). It downloads the RSS file (WOW!), extracts the content (Double WOW!), and moves it. Pure genius.
Anything with iPod in the description apparently bypasses the submission queue.
Check out iPodlounge.
http://www.ipodlounge.com/
Lots of good links, reviews and discussion there about all things iPod (software and hardware related).
Cheers.
Mark
I don't have a PC, but I use Pod2Go to do a whole bunch of neat stuff, including keeping an auto-synced backup of my important files, like my iPhoto library.
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Amazing what a little opening of the hardware allows for people to do with this little thing that was originally meant to just play music and be a modern day Walkman. Now it's this swiss army knife of the 21st century. With success like this it still boggles the mind that Apple computers don't catch on the same way. Flame me if you will, but if Apple just sold a computer for 600$ I think it would catch fire like the iPod has.
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If you go to Versiontracker you will find lots of cool software for the iPod and for iTunes if you enter iPod in their search box.
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looks like there have already been other programs designed to do this with itunes radio http://homepage.mac.com/swithers/iblog/C784421780/ E1012504207/
it seems like it should work with more than just the radio since it simply records audio being broadcast to the computer. Is this different is some way?
This may be a bit offtopic, but does anyone remember Adam Curry's metaverse.com web site? He got that one after MTV took away mtv.com from him. This was way back in like 1993 or 1994. I believe he had just read 'Snow Crash'. Anyway, it's neat to see a celebrity become a geek (kind of like the pr0n star Asia Carerra!), but of course she looks better naked.
... and I'm sure you all will, but I was under the impression that iPodder was a fancy automatic way of downloading MP3s, not converting streaming radio to MP3s and then storing on your iPod which is what this story seems to imply. It is not " the first portable time-shifted Internet audio application", it just "raises the prospect of truly portable time-shifted audio programming on the Internet". I believe Audio Hijack Pro will let you record streaming music, but iPodder looks like it just downloads MP3s.
iPod by itself won't bypass the queue unless it also has the keywords 'Linux' or 'RSS' in it. Indeed this is some seriously lackluster stuff. It downloads a list of files and adds them to itunes. Presumably it will also sync it over to the iPod as well. An m3u could do the same thing if iTunes would support saving the URL. Still, sometimes simple apps like this can be among the most useful ones. At least they're not charging you $10 for it like most excessively tiny mac utilities.
You could tell, even in his prissy glam-metal heyday, that he was a smart one. He went from VJ to dot-com genius. I mean shit, you don't see Jesse Camp coming up with great ideas like this.
I mean, Matt Pinfield knew a lot about music, but there's a difference between trivia and usefulness. Way to go Adam.
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Not taking anything away from iPodder, but I've been using a great little app called Replay Radio for a year or so to grab my favorite web radio programs and save them as MP3s, which I then dump into my iPod. Product details here
When I first read that I got ideas of a Hitchhiker's Guide show. Who needs a towel anymore if you have an iPod!
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Shit.
I thought I could just hit the button and turn the volume control to skip back a few minutes.
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Another fricking buzzword. Gotta love 'em.
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and I'll buy one.
Click away people, I need an iPod!
Dude, if you want a free iPod, just send me your bank account number and SSN. When I forward it my buddy the Prime Minister of Nigeria, he'll send you more than enough money to cover the cost of an iPod.
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Don't forget hymn. It allows you to convert protected AAC files that you purchase through the iTunes Music Store to unprotected AAC files that can be played back on any device, or with any piece of software, that supports AAC.
Just be sure to backup the original protected AAC file somewhere just in case. Oh and I wouldn't be sharing these unprotected files on any P2P service. It does remove the DRM, but it doesn't remove certain tags within the file (called atoms) that can uniquely identify the user who purchased it. There are other pieces of software available that can remove those, but I'm not going to post any links.
Yeah, I know, it's nothing new, the whole automating the pulling down of content. What's really important is that a framework is being established. RSS is getting more and more popular by the day, and if producers of audio content get it together, and produce RSS feeds with enclosures pointing to the audio files, it becomes *extremely easy* for developers to write apps to handle that content, and *extremely easy* for users to get that content - automatically!
Adam knows he's not a brilliant programmer. He's a frustrated developer, who is really trying to kickstart this whole thing by enticing others to write better code than his, which is happening. It made me release my crappy perl code, and prompted others to start similar projects.
Heck, this is the Apple section of
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With X-Box Media Center. I sometimes leave my box on all night and let it dump a bunch of streams to my HD, then I load 'em up on my iPod later to see if I like 'em.
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How come whenever anyone does anything trivial that has anything to do with an Ipod...that it is reported like world peace?
Recording streams have been around as long as streams themselves....I guess it was not a big deal until someone with an Ipod started recording streams.
Next we will read about "Ipod owner creates Hello World" and a "tetris clone".
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It's freeware; source is included; and I've just put up a sourceforge site for it.
A lot of people aren't reading the site and realizing what this technology is about:
1) The program uses encapusization in RSS feeds to grab media from timely updated web sites.
2) The program stores the media and transfers it to the iPod by way of iTunes.
It does not "record broadcasts from streams" any more than using Kazaa to download videos allows you to fast-forward through the boring bits in porn.
Essentially it expands on new RSS tools that give media sites the ability to post recently updated media resources.
A neat tool, I got it working after some initial confusion (talk about lack of documentation, that is part of software development, you know), I found the content to be...err...lacking.
I mean, as much as I like listening to IT babble all day, I get enough of that at work, and after work, and with my friends, etc. Sure would be nice if NPR, or CNN, or any new site not related to hard-core IT or crazy eclectic blogging supported RSS 2.0 with enclosures....
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iPodder and like scripts is just a method of getting new content onto your iPod or MP3 playing device. Nothing more. Its not rocket science, just just a needed tool.
RSS is just an XML file, one of the tags is an enclosure tag, that tag specifies a link to an MP3 file of a new audio program that the author has posted online.
When the iPodder aggregator is run it checks for new MP3 files and downloads them into a playlist (Windows Media, iTunes, ect) that you can later sync up to a portable player.
Why is this needed? hell that should be simple for anyone using an aggregator at all. Its just easier to have this stuff come to you then for you to go out and be on the look out for new 'IT Conversations' or 'The Daily Source Code' episodes.
Yes the concept is simple, and very basic but it didn't exist before, so this fills a hole that a lot of listeners to these types of shows really needed.
After reading some of the comments about iPodder, I was more than a little confused on how so many people could wrap their heads around what iPodder does, I hope this helps (sorry that is late in coming)