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George Lucas Speaks on Trilogy Changes

Warlock7 writes "Yahoo has posted an interview with George Lucas by the AP on the changes to the original trilogy from the new DVD box set. They also discuss the future of the franchise and the direction he intends to take it."

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  1. Let me be the first to say: by Seoulstriker · · Score: 5, Funny

    1) Han shoots first.
    2) Lucas destroyed my childhood.
    3) Lucas eats babies.

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    1. Re:Let me be the first to say: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      This time, the Empire strikes first.

    2. Re:Let me be the first to say: by ackthpt · · Score: 5, Funny
      R2D2: Beep boop wheeep zoop beeyoop! (translation: Be honest, what was I actually?)

      C3PO: Oh, I'm afraid you were originaly designed as mobile trash compactor.

      R2D2: Dweep! Dweep! Dweep! (translation: Noooooooo!)

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    3. Re:Let me be the first to say: by Bjimba · · Score: 5, Informative

      Well, even better, someone *has* converted the laserdisc versions of IV, V, and VII (pre-SD) into a DVD-R ready format, and they *are* being distributed over the usual underground channels.

      You know where to go.

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    4. Re:Let me be the first to say: by pulse2600 · · Score: 5, Funny

      Padme: Anakin, I am your mother...

      Anakin: EWW!!! I just farked my mom!!!!!!!!!

      Padme: Don't be upset, I have some great news!

      Anakin: What's that?

      Padme: No, I just saved a bunch of money on my speeder insurance by switching to GEICO!!!!!

    5. Re:Let me be the first to say: by dark_panda · · Score: 5, Funny

      Actually, in the new version of Ep 4, Alderaan shoots first. The Death Star was just acting in self defense as Lucas originally intended.

      J

    6. Re:Let me be the first to say: by jmole · · Score: 5, Funny

      George Lucas: "Luke, I am your father.

      Luke:"Nooooooo!"

      George Lucas: "Join the darkside and together we can digitially remaster Indiana Jones with more CG."

      Luke:"Nooooooo!"

      Admiral Ackbar: "Luke, it's a trap!"

    7. Re:Let me be the first to say: by Maserati · · Score: 5, Funny

      Ok, if we're going to go there...

      A furious light sabre duel is under way. DARTH VADER is backing LUKE SKYWALKER toward the end of the gantry. A quick move by Vader, chops off Luke's hand! It goes spinning off into the ventilation shaft. Luke

      looks round, but realizes there's nowhere to go but straight down.

      DARTH VADER: "Obi Wan never told you what happened to your father."

      LUKE: "He told me enough! He told me you killed him!"

      DARTH VADER: "No! I am your father!"

      LUKE: "No, that's not true! That's impossible."

      DARTH VADER: "Search your feelings; you know it to be true."

      LUKE: "NO!"

      DARTH VADER: "Yes, it is true and you know what else? You know that queer brass droid of yours?"

      LUKE: "Threepio?"

      DARTH VADER: "Yes, Threepio, I built him when I was 7 years old."

      LUKE: "No."

      DARTH VADER: "Seven years old! And what have you done? Look at yourself, no hand, no job, and couldn't even levitate your own ship
      out of the swamp."

      LUKE: "I destroyed your precious Death Star!"

      DARTH VADER: "When you were 20! When I was 10, I single-handedly destroyed a Trade Federation Droid Control ship!"

      LUKE: "Well, it's not my fault."

      DARTH VADER: "Oh, here we go. 'Poor me, my father never gave me what I

      wanted for my birthday, boo hoo, my daddy's the Dark Lord of the Sith...waahhh wahhh!' You make me sick."

      LUKE: "Shut up!"

      DARTH VADER: "You're a slacker! By the time I was your age, I had exterminated the Jedi Knights!"

      LUKE: "I used to race my T-16 through Beggar's Canyon!"

      DARTH VADER: "Oh, for the love of God, 10 years old, winner of the Boonta Eve Open. Only human to ever fly a Pod Racer, right here baby!"

      Luke looks down the shaft. Takes a step toward it.

      DARTH VADER: "I was wrong. You're not my kid. I don't know whose you are, but you sure ain't mine. Get out of my sight, you loser!"

      Luke takes a step off the platform, hesitates, then plunges down the shaft. Darth Vader looks after him.

      DARTH VADER: "AND GET A HAIRCUT!"

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  2. Quoth George: by rde · · Score: 5, Funny

    "Star Wars" fans is they're very independent-thinking people. They all think outside the box

    Yeah, and then they buy it five times over the next few years.

  3. The Missing Question by ackthpt · · Score: 5, Funny
    As we all know, editors often strip out items they consider unimportant or trivial to make an artical fit, or as the saying goes, "All the news that fits, in print" Here are the missing bits:

    AP: Will there be any other surprises for viewers in these episodes? Lucas: Well, I was quoted a while back as stating the whole Star Wars story is about Anakin Skywalker, his turn to the dark side and eventual rescue by his own son, but that was only half the whole truth, you see as I said a film is only half finished which ripped out of the filmmakers hands, this is really the story of Jar Jar Binks and he has been added into key rolls in all three episodes. I like the character and don't care what anyone else thinks.

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  4. Special Editions vs. regular by wattersa · · Score: 5, Insightful

    AP: Why not release both the originals and special editions on DVD?

    Lucas: The special edition, that's the one I wanted out there. The other movie, it's on VHS, if anybody wants it. ... I'm not going to spend the, we're talking millions of dollars here, the money and the time to refurbish that, because to me, it doesn't really exist anymore. It's like this is the movie I wanted it to be, and I'm sorry you saw half a completed film and fell in love with it. But I want it to be the way I want it to be. I'm the one who has to take responsibility for it. I'm the one who has to have everybody throw rocks at me all the time, so at least if they're going to throw rocks at me, they're going to throw rocks at me for something I love rather than something I think is not very good, or at least something I think is not finished.


    Lucas is going to have a lot of rocks thrown at him. As someone in an earlier post stated, Lucas is a control freak and doesn't seem to grasp that his vision today differs from his vision when he made the movies. :-/

    1. Re:Special Editions vs. regular by DA_MAN_DA_MYTH · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Lucas (pointing at his emmy):

      It's an Oscar or Academy Award, emmy's are for television. Next, really I think it's bullshit every single one of you. If it's not one person selling out, it's another thing of neglecting the fanbase.

      Look Star Wars maybe all of ours, but it's not, it's George Lucas's, he's the artist with the vision. After awhile creating the special edition is what he wanted the original edition to be but was limited to 1970's technology. This was the work he wanted to finish. His work, not yours.

      The only parallel I can picture:

      It's like me screaming at someone's open source project after them adding or changing an API, I can't believe you made that change, you suck. Leave Lucas alone, if you don't like it, it is your right as a consumer and don't buy it.

      (By the way Han shooting first sucked, but I'm still buying the SE's on DVD)

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  5. Article in Brief - Luca$ Direction by dbretton · · Score: 5, Funny

    Q: Where are you taking Star Wars?
    A: Straight to the bank!

  6. Re:Anybody cares? by deathcloset · · Score: 5, Funny

    "I care" - Luke

  7. Response by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful
    My response to Lucas is a quote from the Foreward of "Brave New World", by Aldous Huxley, in regard to "changing things" after the fact.
    Chronic remorse, as all the moralists are agreed, is a most undesirable sentiment. If you have behaved badly, repent, make what amends you can and address yourself to the task of behaving better next time. On no account brood over your wrongdoing. Rolling in the muck is not the best way of getting clean.

    Art also has its morality, and many of the rules of this morality are the same as, or at least analogous to, the rules of ordinary ethics. Remorse, for example, is as undesirable in relation to our bad art as it is in relation to our bad behavior. The badness should be hunted out, acknowledged and, if possible, avoided in the future. To pore over the literary shortcomings of twenty years ago, to attempt to patch a faulty work into the perfection it missed at its first execution, to spend one's middle age in trying to mend the artistic sins committed and bequeathed by that different person who was oneself in youth-all this is surely vain and futile. And that is why this new Brave New World is the same as the old one. Its defects as a work of art are considerable; but in order to correct them I should have to rewrite the book-and in the process of rewriting, as an older, other person, I should probably get rid not only of some of the faults of the story, but also of such merits as it originally possessed. And so, resisting the temptation to wallow in artistic remorse, I prefer to leave both well and ill alone and to think about something else.
    Leave it alone, Lucas.
  8. Even worse: by Megaweapon · · Score: 5, Funny

    Admiral Ackbar: "Luke, I am your mother!"

    Luke: "AAAAAAHHHHHH!!!!!"

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    1. Re:Even worse: by Gentoo+Fan · · Score: 5, Funny

      Greedo: "Han, I am your mother!"

      Han: *BANG*

    2. Re:Even worse: by Gudlyf · · Score: 5, Funny
      Wait, isn't that:

      Han: *BANG*
      Greedo: "Han, I am your...uhhh..."

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  9. Revisionist BS artist by StefanJ · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Man, I'm really coming to dispise this guy.

    Read the unauthorized bio, Sky Walking, to get an idea of the changes that _Star Wars_ went through during its conception. No, the whole thing didn't occur to him in a flash with only technology holding him back from implementing it.

    Like pretty much everybody, he made it up as he went along.

    Even more pathetic: Why hasn't he done anything elese? Speilberg, love him or hate him, has gone beyond his kiddie-film origins, branched out and done lots of different sorts of films. He's grown up. He doesn't deal in comfortable bullshit any more.

    Lucas, he's put a clothespin on his nose, settled in a bed of comfortable bullshit, and thinks he's doing us a favor by inviting us in.

    Stefan

    1. Re:Revisionist BS artist by jcenters · · Score: 5, Insightful
      Yeah, and if you read the original drafts for "The Star Wars," you'll realize that without a ton of revision and doctoring, it would have probably been one of the worst films ever, right up there with "Manos: The Hand of Fate."

      Typical line from the early drafts: "LUKE STARKILLER slashes through the IMPERIAL BAD-GUY with his LAZER-SWORD. IMPERIAL BAD-GUY SCREAMS TO A VIOLENT DEATH."

      Well, you get the idea. But if you do read them, you'll discover why the prequels are so awful. This is George Lucas's true talent right here folks, and after seeing it, you understand why he doesn't do anything else these days.

      On a side note, Lucas can cram all that CGI right up his ass. A lot of the best special effects in the original trilogy were the simplest. Remember how everyone was wowed by Vader's force-telekinesis at the end of Empire? Yeah, a couple of guys throwing boxes at Mark Hamill, but cool on screen nonetheless.

      I think a lot of filmmakers are forgetting one of the principles of SFX: If the audience notices them, then they've failed to do their job. For instance, in the original Star Wars SE, it's pretty obvious that Jabba the Hutt is a poorly rendered CGI blob. I notice this right off the bat, and it destroys the illusion. On the other hand, if I watch RotJ, released in the dark ages of the 1980s, Jabba's merely a "primitive" puppet, but damnit he seems real.

      Lucas originally created a universe that all of felt we could visit, if we had a light-speed ship and maybe a time machine. The prequels feel more like an example of why LSD and children's breakfast cereal don't mix.

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  10. What a clueless assclown by stratjakt · · Score: 5, Insightful


    AP: Why did you change your mind and decide to put the original three movies out on DVD now?

    Lucas: Just because the market has shifted so dramatically. A lot of people are getting very worried about piracy. That has really eaten dramatically into the sales. It really just came down to, there may not be a market when I wanted to bring it out, which was like, three years from now. So rather than just sit by and watch the whole thing fall apart, better to bring it out early and get it over with.


    No, George, there may very well not be a market for this in three years. And not because of piracy. Because Star Wars is dead. 20 years ago I was into Star Wars as a kid, I bought the toys and had light saber duels in the playground with the other kids.

    20 years later, and my kids really don't give a shit about Star Wars. This time around, you lost their interest to such notable franchises as "Spy Kids".

    I'm not kidding. I tried to take my boy to Star Wars when it was re-released in theatres. He was bored, and couldn't sit through it's dated effects and cheesy dialog. I know Jar-Jar was supposed to suck the little kids into the Star Wars world, but he didn't. My kids thought him as annoying as I did.

    There will be no market for Star Wars in 3 years, simply because it's uncompelling poorly written and over-marketted crap.

    Much like Star Wars, it's original hardcore fanbase is growing up and dying off. The new stuff is not attracting new fans.

    There's no market for a sequel to Citizen Kane either.

    But of course, this idiot is inable to comprehend the writing on the wall, and follows the industry standard of blaming it all on piracy.

    Make a good movie, and I'll pay to watch it.

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  11. Lucas Interview Special Edition (Orig. rereleased) by Jakhel · · Score: 5, Funny

    Scenes from the original include..

    AP: Why not release both the originals and special editions on DVD?

    Lucas: The special edition, that's the one I wanted out there. The other movie, it's on VHS, if anybody wants it. ... I'm not going to spend the, we're talking millions of dollars here, the money and the time to refurbish that, because to me, it doesn't really exist anymore. It's like this is the movie I wanted it to be, and I'm sorry you saw half a completed film and fell in love with it. But I want it to be the way I want it to be. I'm the one who has to take responsibility for it. I'm the one who has to have everybody throw rocks at me all the time, so at least if they're going to throw rocks at me, they're going to throw rocks at me for something I love rather than something I think is not very good, or at least something I think is not finished.

    AP: Do you pay much attention to fan reactions to your choices?

    Lucas: Not really. The movies are what the movies are. ... The thing about science-fiction fans and "Star Wars" fans is they're very independent-thinking people. They all think outside the box, but they all have very strong ideas about what should happen, and they think it should be their way. Which is fine, except I'm making the movies, so I should have it my way.


    Special edition scenes..

    AP: Why not release both the originals and special editions on DVD?

    Lucas: I'm George Lucas, bitch!

    AP: Do you pay much attention to fan reactions to your choices?

    Lucas: Yes, in fact I have a joke for the fans. What did the five fingers say to the face?

    AP: Uhh..

    Lucas smacks AP

    Lucas: SLAP!

    AP: ...

    Lucas: I'm George Lucas, bitch!

  12. Lucas sucks. by valkraider · · Score: 5, Insightful

    What an asshole. He basically said: "I know all the hard working and loyal fans want the originals but they can all go suck themselves off because I own the crap and I am god. But it's all OK because they'll bend over and take it anyway."

    And the worst part is that, based on the way he opened the interview, if we all decide to *not* buy this crap, they will blame the poor sales on PIRACY - not the fact that he is making a high priced product that people don't REALLY want (again).

  13. Here's a clue to Lucas, from a non-SW fan... by Denyer · · Score: 5, Insightful
    The other movie, it's on VHS, if anybody wants it. ... I'm not going to spend the, we're talking millions of dollars here, the money and the time to refurbish that, because to me, it doesn't really exist anymore

    ...fans of film in general don't care if the footage is refurbished. They just want a copy of the film as it was initially released in a format resistant to physical degradation.

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  14. Re:Trilogy Changes by ackthpt · · Score: 5, Informative
    Actually, I don't think he mentions any changes to the trilogy, other than they are the Special Edition versions.

    in the 90's they added a sequence of Han Solo talking to Jaba the Hutt at the space port. Jaba was added through computer animation, but the live shot of Harrison Ford was from the original filming. Upon reflection it added nothing to the story or the film that wasn't already apparently clear.

    Not seeing Jaba gave the impression of something menacing. The CG Jaba looked small and rendered on a sheet of Saran Wrap which seemed to shift in the breeze and looked terrible.

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  15. sorry, can't help it by Prince+Vegeta+SSJ4 · · Score: 5, Funny
    Luke: "Jar-Jar, I am your father"

    Jar-Jar"Noooooooooo! Thasa nasa true thasa imposseeble"

  16. Who read to the bottom of the article? by Wampus+Aurelius · · Score: 5, Interesting
    AP: After "Episode III," will you ever revisit "Star Wars"?

    Lucas: Ultimately, I'm going to probably move it into television and let other people take it. I'm sort of preserving the feature film part for what has happened and never go there again, but I can go off into various offshoots and things. You know, I've got offshoot novels, I've got offshoot comics. So it's very easy to say, "Well, OK, that's that genre, and I'll find a really talented person to take it and create it." Just like the comic books and the novels are somebody else's way of doing it. I don't mind that. Some of it might turn out to be pretty good. If I get the right people involved, it could be interesting.

    The Clone Wars cartoons on Cartoon Network are really good; here's hoping that more product like that comes out in the future.

  17. Lucas is no genius! by gosand · · Score: 5, Insightful
    It's like this is the movie I wanted it to be, and I'm sorry you saw half a completed film and fell in love with it.

    So basically what he says is, he got lucky with Star Wars. Because what he wanted to make was garbage. Look at the prequels - he had much more control over these, and comparatively they sucked. They are tripe on their own, without using the original three as a crutch.

    So the movies that people loved, and built his "empire" (so to speak) were not his true vision. We have seen his vision, and it isn't that great. So I think it is time to stop giving Lucas any credit for the first three movies. He doesn't want it, and he apparently doesn't deserve it. Actually, the more control he had, the worse the movies got. It was kind of obvious to me that he had more control with ROTJ, because of the Ewoks and some of the direction the story took. I am almost looking forward to EPIII - not to see it, but just to see how bad it is.

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  18. Zahn Trilogy by niola · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I been re-reading the Zahn trilogy and I tell you, I would LOVE to see that turned into a film with someone else directing it. Let Lucas be exec producer with Timothy Zahn, but let's get some fresh blood in to direct. Let someone like Peter Jackson try his had at it :)

  19. Re:Even worse... by roman_mir · · Score: 5, Funny

    Jabba the Hutt: Luke....

    Luke: - Oh, no.

  20. Re:What Does "Han Shoots First" Mean? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    In the Cantina scene, in the original version, Han Solo whacks the dumbass bounty hunter Greedo with a pre-emptive shot from beneath the table, thus cementing in everyones eyes his total badassness.

    In the "enhanced" version, Greedo shoots first, apparently unable to hit a target at absurdly close range, and Han "returns fire" killing him in "self-defense", and cementing him in our minds as a dumbass, though an insanely lucky one, who was apparantly smart enough to have his hand on his blaster, but dumb enough not to use it proactively against an obvious treacherous slimeball.

  21. Re:What Does "Han Shoots First" Mean? by Wandering+Wombat · · Score: 5, Informative

    I read the thread because I love Star Wars. Because I love Star Wars, I haven't seen the Special Edition. Because I haven't seen the Special Edition, this comment made no sense to me. Because this comment made no sense to me, I posted for clarification. Because I posted for clarification, you feel the need to belittle me because I know less than you. Congratulations.

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  22. Re:Harrison's Opinion by Thud457 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Yeah, I saw him speak at our college commencement. His comment was : "It's just a movie. Get a life!"

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