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Arrest in Cisco Code Theft
Kozar_The_Malignant writes "The BBC is reporting that an arrest has been made in the case of the stolen Cisco code that was posted to the internet last May. Approximately 800 MB was posted to a Russian security website. No name has been released and details are rather thin."
No name has been released
Just because you have no name, it doesn't automatically mean you're guilty.
to be younger people who get arrested for these kind of acts. I'm reffering to things such as code theft/release, warez, writing worms, viruses, etc. Is it because the the younger ones aren't as bright and therefor don't cover their tracks as well? Or is it because as you get older, the appeal of these kind of things drops? A combination of both? Something else? I would have to assume it's a combination of both, but I have no idea.
WWJD.... for a Klondike bar?
I've got and have had IOS 11.3 source sitting here for about two years. I kept notes on the dork who gave it to me. I contacted Cisco asset recovery, whom I had worked with before, and they got me to the IP guys. I've been waiting and waiting to be interviewed and nothing happens
I am very easy to get along with, but I don't have time to waste being nice to people who are being stupid. -Theo
You know, sometimes these little "give and takes" that people post on /. are funny. This one was in no way humorous or entertaining.
Thanks!
I've just signed legislation that'll outlaw Russia forever. We'll begin bombing in five minutes.
Yes. It's what one finds under the bonnet of router*
*pronounced 'root-er'
Fancy a scone?
I don't see how this is going to keep people from hacking Cisco products. The only difference here is the code was "published". From what I have been told the code has been available in the "warez" community for years.
From the article:
Soon after the appearance of the code Cisco confirmed that the FBI was investigating how the theft had occurred.
And...
Cisco said that it had not been stolen as a result of loopholes in its software.
So, they need the FBI to determine how the theft occurred, but they're sure it wasn't because their software has security holes?
Either you know how it happened or you don't, guys. Can't be both.
Weaselmancer
rediculous.
Russian officials have identified the suspect as a 75-year-old deranged homeless man named Dmitri. Dmitri has never seen a computer or even heard of computers or the internet, and upon being arrested declared himself to be the reincarnation of Czar Nicholas II. Russian authorities state that Dmitri is the ringleader of every single former Soviet-bloc hacking and IP theft operation, which he was running from a cardboard box under a freeway overpass, and once he's been put to death following a speedy closed-door non-jury trial, which takes place in about twenty minutes, all Russian-based criminal activity on the internet will cease. Officials are hailing the arrest as a triumph for the Russian criminal justice system and the dawning of a new era in East-West internet-based relations. Dmitri's friends, two of whom are imaginary, are protesting by wrapping themselves in some copper wire they found and then trading it for vodka.
You are in error. No-one is screaming. Thank you for your cooperation.
[It always seems] to be younger people who get arrested for these kind of acts [..] Is it because the the younger ones aren't as bright and therefor don't cover their tracks as well? Or is it because as you get older, the appeal of these kind of things drops?
You wouldn't believe how old some of the world's top hackers and crackers are. For example...
The Queen Mother didn't die.
In fact, it is little known that she was an u83r1337 h4x0r whose skills reached terrifying levels during her "lifetime". However, wary of the risk of getting caught, and not exhibiting the carelessness or egotism of youth, she decided the only way to practice these skills to their full extent was to fake her own death.
It is rumored that, post-"death", she is working as a black-hat hacker on behalf of Microsoft, and that her alias is qqqqmutha ("four 'q' mother").
The Queen Mother is 104.
"Slashdot - News and Chat Sites Deviant". (Click "homepage" link above for details).
"Heaven forbid that Cisco actually allow this and join the open source movement...we certainly wouldn't want their stuff to get any better. (*insert sarcasm here*)"
It might interest you to know that cisco is one of the top contributers (of both hardware, and money) to the Open Source Development Labs.
Also even if cisco did release the code for its routers, it's architecture is so specialized that you need quite expensive machinery to even get it compiled, so it wouldn't enjoy the massive development base that linux has.
If you actually read the article, you'll find out that the person arrested was a British.
Words are repurposed every day.
Especially by marketing hacks. "Repurposed"? Jesus.
Whats the difference between manslaughter and murder? Semantics.
Damn good thing you aren't a lawyer. Legally murder is the *deliberate* killing of another human being; manslaughter is the *accidental* killing of another human being. Of course, the fact that you're unable to distinguish between the two is driven home by your completely irrelevent strawman argument.
Yes, theft does not mean someone was deprived of something.
The legal definition of theft means that you actually have to deprive someone of something. And no, you aren't important enough in the grand scheme of things to redefine words as you please and force your definitions on the rest of us. So either you accept *our* definitions or we get to laugh at you for being a solipsistic, arrogant little prick.
There's a difference between theft and copyright violation. But I don't suspect you'll be able to tell the difference, since you can't even see the difference between murder and manslaughter.
Commie hippy fuckwad. I'm posting this as an AC because the truth does not like to be heard on slashdot
No, you're posting this AC because you're a fucking coward who's desperately afraid that he might lose some bogus karma points if he posts under his handle. A spineless, whining, two-bit guttersnipe without the balls to stand behind his words and take what comes.
I laugh at you, little weasel.
Max
My god carries a hammer. Your god died nailed to a tree. Any questions?
"For instance, if you had a summer home and left a car there so that you could just fly in and go with it, and some fuck wad took it over the winter and then put it back -- ensuring that nothing was damaged, the engine was serviced and the oil was changed and had someone on the inside so that if you were anywhere near a thousand mile fucking radius, they could put it back as good as new (or better) -- would this be theft?"
Well, in the UK at least it wouldn't be theft.
In your scenario, the car is kept as good as new and no criminal damage has ocurred, so the only offence comitted is that of Taking Without Consent (T.W/O.C in Police shorthand, hence the term "Twoccing").
This offense was dreamed up at the back end of the last century, when joyriding became immensely popular with the chavs and pikies that infest the housing projects of this green and pleasant land.
Since the car was invariably abandoned after the fun was over, the prosecutor could not show that there was an intent to permanently deprive the owner of his property, hence , no theft ocurred.
The Twoc law was introduced so that the fun-loving and excitable rascals who joyride could be charged with a more serious crime than merely busting a car door lock.
T&M.
Political language
Wouldn't be hard if you had a way to get past the firewall of doom (the nickname for the main gateway firewalls at Cisco). Once internal you basically have your typicall soft centered network. The source code is available via NFSv3 mount points that are protected by simple host authnetication with username/password authentication being bypassable. Only the export restricted stuff is really all that locked down and even that wouldn't be that hard to get to for a determined hacker.
This knowledge is now 3 years out of date but I really doubt Cisco has taken major leaps to improve internal security.
There are 4 boxes to use in the defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, ammo. Use in that order. Starting now.