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Sony Adopts Blu-ray Disc PlayStation 3

fenimor writes "Sony announced today that it had begun preparations to adopt Blu-ray Disc ROM (BD-ROM) format as a medium for the next generation PlayStation. Single side double layer Blu-Ray discs have a huge memory size of 54 GB, being an ideal medium to distribute next generation entertainment content from movies and music to computer applications. Next month Sony plans to announce a 200GB 8-layer version of BD-ROM according to MacWorld."

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  1. Third post! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Insightful

    W00t! Gah, I hate Italian majors who feel they deserve money just because they have always been priveledged. And yet they will probably wind up w/ 2x the money and 1/2 the work as me, but who cares, third post! w00t!

  2. Purchase of MGM by frankmu · · Score: 3, Insightful

    this way Sony can push the PS3 effectively. the question is will they have enough Blue ray HD movies available by the time the PS3 is released.

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  3. Flaming Sony for Proprietary Format by goldspider · · Score: 4, Insightful

    You all know it's coming, but seriously folks, before the Dreamcast and original Playstation came out, what console's games didn't come out on a proprietary format?

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  4. Re:Security by Obscurity? by wheany · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Why not? It will probably do nothing to stop professional pirates, but I'm sure it doesn't hurt.

  5. Blu-Ray Winning by Kenshin · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Personally, I see this as the action that will establish BD-ROM as the leader of the next-gen disc formats.

    I don't know many people who will rush-out to buy a new DVD player to play HD movies, but EVERYONE is going to buy a PS3.

    With that installed base, it will be fairly easy to translate into the market for movies being sold in that format.

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    1. Re:Blu-Ray Winning by Damek · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I won't be buying a PS3 (unless it has Doom III and Half-Life 2), but then I never bought a PS1 or PS2 or XBox or GameCube or anything else. I'm not in the market.

      But I also think it's too early for any new movie media standard. Sure, I'm an outlier, as demonstrated by what I just said about the PS3, but I just started getting some movies on DVD, and I imagine a good segment of the public only really got into DVD buying within the last few years. Even assuming 4-5 years before a new format is really available with lots of movies, who would want to buy it? DVDs are good enough for most people, and probably still will be in 4-5 years. If new players support old DVDs, and new content just starts coming out in HD on the new disc media, then I can see a slow switchover being painless and mattering little.

      But then there's the issue of media life. I've checked out a few DVDs from the library over the past year or so, and they all had such damage that parts of the films were unwatchable. DVD-damage is much worse than VHS-tape-damage. At least with a VHS you can still get an idea of what's going on, hear the dialog, or fast-forward. A damaged DVD skips and pauses painfully, decides to jump to the next chapter, and can't fast-forward through the video file because it can't read the video file. Even denser media will undoubtedly be worse, right?

    2. Re:Blu-Ray Winning by iezhy · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Personally, I see this as the action that will establish BD-ROM as the leader of the next-gen disc formats

      sony already tried to establish MD (mini-disk) technology few years ago, which was a brilliant sollution for the time. Although, MD's were eaten by cheaper CD-R/RW's

      so its way to early to predict something - i guess the most affordable and widespread technology will win

  6. Bluray has a 50GB capacity by squeezee · · Score: 3, Insightful

    What Ken Kutaragi appears to have said was that the PS3 will have 54GB of storage Capacity in addition to playing DVDs and CDs. Since Bluray can hold 25/50GB one assumes he is alluding to the inclusion of an onboard HDD or flash memory device.

    http://ps2.ign.com/articles/549/549950p1.html

  7. if this is the case then I doubt ps3 in 05 by cyrax777 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Like people keep suggesting. More like late 06 early 07.

  8. MGM comes into the picture.. by voice+of+unreason · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Interesting. I think I'm starting to see Sony's strategy. They're rolling out a console that can probably play blu-ray DVD movies. They recently bought MGM, giving Sony the rights to rerelease all of MGM's movies on DVD. With PS3 to put players into the market, and with MGM movies to release, it sounds like sony has put a lot of thought into making their blu-ray standard a success.

  9. um... by Run4yourlives · · Score: 2, Insightful

    that's why they have these things call tape...

    You actually back up your entire harddrive on 50 CDs/DVDS? Sorry, but that's just anal.

  10. Re:I wonder by ZorbaTHut · · Score: 4, Insightful

    A game that I worked on - Everquest: Champions of Norrath - used the entire dual-layer DVD. In fact, if we'd had more, we could have used it. In fact, we ended up having to remove some of the data for the international version because the voice files were too big to fit. I personally wrote a compression algorithm to compress our textures down to about half their previous size (and yes, they were compressed before also.)

    I think one level had around 10gb of textures uncompressed, brought down to under half a gig after heavy processing.

    That said, if we'd had access to a really fast processor and GPU, none of that would have been necessary. So I don't know what people can use 50gb for, given that the system is extremely fast.

    But maybe it's not as fast as I think it is.

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  11. Re:ASS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Insightful

    The word is ASS.

    Say it with me now. ASS.

    not ***, but ass. I dont know who you are trying to "protect" with that, but trust me, they dont need it.

    You ass. :)

  12. Re:I wonder by mausmalone · · Score: 3, Insightful

    some of the graphic and audio hurdles you see in modern games aren't just 'cause the systems aren't fast enough to handle them. Repeated models, redundant textures, low res textures, dialog without audio... all of these things can be aleviated by having a bigger storage medium. Of course, expect development times to increase because of it ...

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  13. Re:Security by Obscurity? by Dot.Com.CEO · · Score: 2, Insightful

    That is EXACTLY the same argument I have been hearing for years and it is ALWAYS invalid. People said that cds would be uncopiable because people would not have the hard disk space, cd recorders are amazingly expensive, so is media, and it takes about a week on an unreliable connection to download a cd. Well, guess what, things moved on. Then came dvds. Exact same arguments. Now it's the same with a blue-ray or whatever it's called. With a 10Mbit connection, something entirely possible during the next 3-4 years, the average consumer will be able to download 54 Gb in more or less 24 hours. Good enough for you?

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  14. Re:I wonder by Tenebrious1 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    So how long will the new FF summonings be, 10 minutes each? 30 minute cut scenes? I shudder at the thought.

    Personally I'd rather they spend the time creating more "world" to explore rather than rendering hours and hours FMVs...

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  15. Why blue-ray will win the format wars by gcpeart · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I think this may be why blue ray wins the format war. If PS3 uses it, and the average PS2 owner stay s true to their old behaviour, it won't be long before they are modding and burning and complaining about fair use. Before you know it, blueray dvdrw will be fly off the shelf, driving the price down, and making fence sitters say "hmmm do I get nearly equivilent option 1, or cheaper option 2?" Cheap wins (re: beta vs vhs) and boom blueray is your standard of choice. All thanks to the power of software piracy!

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  16. Nothing to worry about by mapmaker · · Score: 3, Insightful
    Sony *always* goes for market domination on new electronics by trying to impose their proprietary format (Betamax, Memory Stick, Atrac) and they *always* fail. They *never* learn.

    Sony's like the Brain from Pinky and the Brain:

    "What are we going to do tonight Sony?"
    "The same thing we do every night, Pinky. Try to take over the home electronics business with a proprietary media format!"

  17. Re:Finally! by Kiryat+Malachi · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Personally, I like *understanding* the voice acting more than I like the Japanese voice acting. If I can't understand what they're saying, there's really no point in them saying it; give me BETTER VOICE ACTORS IN ENGLISH, not possibly better voice actors who I can't make a decent judgement on because I have no idea whether they're talking about their dead beloved or breakfast.

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  18. Re:I wonder by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    What you need to realize is that PS3 might support HDTV resolutions. In that case all the the out of game pre-rendered movies will be a lot larger. And for that matter maybe even normal textures.