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Emusic Relaunches - Cheap, DRM-Free Downloads

An anonymous reader writes "Emusic.com has relaunched today. This is important for several reasons. 1) They sell MP3s. No DRM. I can play them on my Linux box or wherever. 2) They are encoding at 192Kbit/s VBR. That's near CD quality (and how I rip my own CDs). They are focusing on lesser known independent music and providing some editorial content to separate the good from the bad. I see lots of great jazz, classical, and folk/country stuff in their library. 4) Subscription rate is 9.99/month for 40 tracks. That is $0.25 a track. Much cheaper than everywhere else. It's near my pricepoint. This is the first online music store that I will seriously consider. (And actually the first that I _can_ consider since I'm a linux user.)"

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  1. Want to see what they have? by DrunkenTerror · · Score: 5, Informative
    1. Re:Want to see what they have? by DrunkenTerror · · Score: 5, Informative


      And here's a Coral link!
      She's getting hammered, as of 20:19 UTC.

    2. Re:Want to see what they have? by Tyndmyr · · Score: 3, Interesting
      Independant bands are all well and good, but Id like to see the major bands signing on with these. Wait, you say the major bands are crap, and are only popular because the labels cram them down our necks?

      Partially true indeed, but at least some popular or semi-popular songs are quite good. This product does however appear to be cheap enough to supplement kaaza and cd ripping. Why steal when you can buy cheaply?

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    3. Re:Want to see what they have? by gfody · · Score: 4, Interesting

      why don't more sites use a simple query tool like newegg's? just about every site tries to categorize everything into drill down categories that actually maximizing the amount of clicks it takes to find what you want.

      here is what it will take for me to pay for music:
      1) must host every song ever, available for immediate speedy download in more than a few different formats/bitrates
      2) a query tool (genre, artist, date of release, lyrics, etc) at LEAST a simple search utility
      3) when I select a song I want to see the list of "other people who selected this song also selected.."

      thats it.. first site to implement these 3 features gets my money. I don't care what it costs.

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    4. Re:Want to see what they have? by grub · · Score: 3, Interesting


      Independant bands are all well and good, but Id like to see the major bands signing on with these.

      Won't happen. EMUSICs focus is small, indie bands (for the most part) because the big labels won't let their stuff be released with DRM 'protection'.

      It's good for the indies, really, as all the big stuff is available for free anyhow so this gives the indies some exposure.

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    5. Re:Want to see what they have? by bubkus_jones · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Major label bands have their (outdated, some say) distribution model. Indie bands don't have as many resources, and have to work harder to get thier music out to anywhere outside their local touring area.

      This provides a means of doing it that's 1) cheap for the consumer, 2) not giving it away, and 3) not trying to control the use of the file.

      I wouldn't want to see big-name bands on systems like these, because they'd push out the lesser known/indie bands, and the major labels would probably force emusic to use DRM'd files, which would defeat one of the big pro's of this service.

    6. Re:Want to see what they have? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

      I'm the opposite. I'd like the major bands to stay away from services like emusic. Why? Major bands are pricier, they will require a higher price, that'll confuse things at the least. Also major bands will overwhelm the indies and we'll be back to square 1. What you're suggesting is the crap that's happened over and over again in USA with Walmart, Starbucks, McDonald's and all the other "major" shops that crowd out individuals and entrepreneurship and invite in the big brother.

      No. Keep the major bands in itunes and its clones, leave the indies alone in emusic and its clones. If you like both kinds, nothing stops you from using two or more services simultaneously.

    7. Re:Want to see what they have? by tfoss · · Score: 3, Informative
      here is what it will take for me to pay for music:
      1) must host every song ever, available for immediate speedy download in more than a few different formats/bitrates
      2) a query tool (genre, artist, date of release, lyrics, etc) at LEAST a simple search utility
      3) when I select a song I want to see the list of "other people who selected this song also selected.."

      thats it.. first site to implement these 3 features gets my money. I don't care what it costs.

      Hm, would you like those to come with a naked supermodel listening partner, or would you prefer she have a whipped-cream bikini instead?

      Seriously dude, if you are setting your sights that high (#1 by itself is im-freaking-possible), then you are not the target market.

      -Ted

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    8. Re:Want to see what they have? by schnell · · Score: 5, Insightful

      here is what it will take for me to pay for music:
      1) must host every song ever, available for immediate speedy download in more than a few different formats/bitrates
      2) a query tool (genre, artist, date of release, lyrics, etc) at LEAST a simple search utility
      3) when I select a song I want to see the list of "other people who selected this song also selected.."

      thats it.. first site to implement these 3 features gets my money. I don't care what it costs.

      iTMS has items #2 and #3. Every song ever? Come on, nobody has ever had that, nor would anyone want to. It wouldn't be worth the disk space to store or even the cost of electricity to rip the hundreds of thousands of old albums that will never, ever be purchased by anyone again. And nobody but geeks ask for multiple encoding rates ... the same Slashdot audience that whines about 99 cents being too much to pay for a song. Not exactly the target market businesses want to cater to.

      I'm not suggesting that you personally are doing this ... but some people in the past have made deliberately unachievable "want" lists for online music distribution as a justification for pirating music. (And before you ask, yes, I have downloaded music that I don't own; I can rationalize it [not available except on vinyl and I don't have/want a record player] but I know that it doesn't make it right.)

      I can say "I won't buy a satellite TV system until it has a.) 1000 channels and b.) costs less than $9.99/month." I can refuse to buy a DTV or Dish system because it doesn't meet my criteria. But it doesn't justify my going out and pirating satellite TV. The point is that you can sit on the sidelines of the legal downloading market for as long as you like, waiting for your wishlist of features, or you can use what's available to you now if it's good enough. Just don't use "it's not quite the way I want it" as an excuse for doing something wrong.

      Again - not saying the parent poster is doing this. But just throwing out a little cosmic karma caution to those who may be doing it.

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    9. Re:Want to see what they have? by hackstraw · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Why steal when you can buy cheaply?

      Why pay anything when you can pay nothing?

  2. I for one... by XaviorPenguin · · Score: 4, Funny

    ...welcome our Cheap, DRM-Free Music Downloading Overlords!

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  3. I am signing up... by grasshoppa · · Score: 4, Insightful

    ...if for no other reason than to encourage this kind of service.

    I haven't even seen the catalog yet. :)

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    1. Re:I am signing up... by 16K+Ram+Pack · · Score: 3, Informative
      If you've got some capacity, try some of the following bands on there...

      The Fall, Cocteau Twins, Bauhaus, The Pixies. If you can find Cruiser's Creek on there,try it.

    2. Re:I am signing up... by Ozwald · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Wow! Willing to jump onto a fixed price service with a download limit that focuses on unknown talent! You're brave!

      Really, I believe the Internet needs to be the next generation radio, instead everybody is trying to figure out new pricing plans or protocols to hose the consumer or the artists. What I want is a way to discover new talent FOR FREE, new music FOR FREE, and be given some reason for faith that the rest of the CD is good too. If so, let me purchase the rest. I'm sure artists are also looking for new ways of promoting their music for free and ways of selling CDs without losing out on the markups by distributors and music stores. If you still feel the need that consumers must be hosed for something, make them use P2P.

      Ozwald

  4. Slashvertisement by suss · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Ummm yeah... submitted by an "Anonymous Reader", not by the owner of emusic at all, right? /wonders how much that cost.

    1. Re:Slashvertisement by mattdm · · Score: 3, Funny

      Slashdot doesn't sell the right to post advertisements as news. Just FYI.

      Yeah; why would anyone buy it when it's been given away for free for so long?

  5. monthly/per track pricing? by wheezl · · Score: 4, Informative

    are they hoping you might forget to pick up all 40 of your tracks? odd.

    allofmp3.com is still superior

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    1. Re:monthly/per track pricing? by mOoZik · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Yes, that's the business model, it seems. At first glance, it seems like a perfect deal, until you realize that maybe you don't need 40 tracks a month, and maybe just one or two. But guess what? According to the Slashdot summary, you're still gonna get charged the $10 a month. This is for those heavy music buyers. I'll stick to iTunes, thank you very much.

    2. Re:monthly/per track pricing? by jschottm · · Score: 4, Informative

      Yes folks, the dubiously legal (at best) russian site that doesn't actually pay the artists (anything appreciable) is somehow able to undercut the legal service that tries to make sure that everyone gets paid, yet offers reasonably high quality recordings with NO DRM and restrictions for personal use. Hands up those who are surprised.

      As far as the 40 tracks/month thing, well yeah. It's called being in business. No pricing policy will ever suit everyone's needs, but these folks have chosen one that appears to work for them and their clients. If you only want one or two tracks a month, this is not the service for you. I've been a subscriber for some time, and it works for me, even though there've been some months I don't use up my quota. Big deal. The monthly fee is about the cost of a decent meal.

      As a point of information, a nice thing about their DRM-less existance is that they keep track of what you have download and let you redownload the same tracks for free. So if your hard drive crashes or if you want a copy of a song while you're at work, just log in, go to the page of what you've downloaded in the past, and download it again.

    3. Re:monthly/per track pricing? by Txiasaeia · · Score: 4, Informative
      What are you talking about, not being legal for USians? From the linked site:

      "Anyway, my friend and I were scouring the net looking for info on this site, and the controversy surrounding it. Here's the final word...from the horses'...well, I'll let you decide which part of the anatomy you insert there.

      After checking with the RIAA and other licensing agencies, KCTL Kansas City; the radio station for KCTalk.com; has switched from paying $1.00 per song with Napster, to using the "pay per meg" service at allofmp3.com.

      After the RIAA confirmed in an email that the service is in fact legal, just under a different contract due to the site being located in Russia, the switch was made immediately. All downloaded music from the site was quote "able to be used in a full broadcast and media capacity".

      KCTalk.com just wanted to pass this information on to others that have been searching for a real site to download stuff from without paying arms and legs. Thank you to Dies Irae for pointing out this service.

      Furthermore, KCTL has started replacing thier songs that were previously encoded at 128k, with the cheaper, yet better sounding, 192k that allofmp3.com provides. We have downloaded 9 songs, and have not quite used $0.75 yet. Great service!

      Go, check it out. This radio station has done all of the "legwork" for us. Download, and be merry!"

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  6. Pricepoint? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    That is $0.25 a track. Much cheaper than everywhere else. It's near my pricepoint. This

    First it was anything but $0.99/track is not cheap enough. Then $0.99 is not enough,.. Now people are not even willing to spend a whole quarter for a song? I think there are some people here who will still be complaining when they are free, just because they aren't encoded at a high enough bitrate!

    1. Re:Pricepoint? by stickystyle · · Score: 3, Funny

      I think people -here- will complain they are not OGG.
      :-)

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    2. Re:Pricepoint? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      About a year ago you could get unlimited downloads for $9.99 a month. Emusic stopped that when it was sold. I canceled my account the day they announced the move to 40 downloads a month.

      You may think 40 downloads is a lot, but for the type of music available at Emusic, it isn't. Most people who posted in the forums at Emusic liked to try different artists and styles. That was easy to do with unlimited downloads. The majority of the music at Emusic is material most people aren't going to know, so being able to experiment was a big part of why customers stayed with them. It's hard to experiment with 40 tracks. I listen to that much music almost every day.

      The problem with Emusic's change in service is that many posters on the forums said they would have paid $50 for an unlimited service. I certainly would have. It's their loss.

    3. Re: Pricepoint? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Who said $0.99 was ever reasonable?

      CD tracks were averaging $0.99 when the industry was telling Congress that it would get cheaper after the investment costs were written off!

      The cost of online distribution is a fraction of what it once took, i.e. manufacturing, inventory, shipping, personnel, etc, and you are _still_ paying the same price for an inferior product!

      This complaint isn't new...you just never listened to the original complaint we had!!!

    4. Re:Pricepoint? by nathanh · · Score: 4, Funny
      First it was anything but $0.99/track is not cheap enough. Then $0.99 is not enough,.. Now people are not even willing to spend a whole quarter for a song?

      Different people. Even when some people were saying "$0.99/track is OK" there were others saying "no way, that's the same as CD, I'd rather just buy the CD'.

      Here's a hint. At the top of each message is a name. That name indicates a different person. By reading those names you can see that different people say different things. I can see how it might have confused you with lots of people saying different things on Slashdot. You clearly thought it was a single person with schizophrenia. But armed with this helpful hint you should now be able to distinguish different participants. HTH.

      I think there are some people here who will still be complaining when they are free, just because they aren't encoded at a high enough bitrate!

      That's a pretty safe prediction because those sorts of people have already said as much in previous stories. Many of them want FLAC instead of a lossy MP3 or AAC format. Zero Nostradamus points for you, I'm afraid!

    5. Re:Pricepoint? by Chris+Burke · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I was an absolutely ecstatic Emusic subscriber, and I would plug them in just about every /. article on online music, DRM, etc. because they were awesome.

      My standard model, which apparently was pretty common, was to download a single album from ten bands, burn it on a CD and listen to it at work for a week or two and decide what I liked. Then I'd get more of those bands, burn a CD for work, listen for several more weeks. Repeat a couple times, and I'd have enough new music to last me for several months. I wouldn't download much in that time, but I kept the subscription because when I wanted to experiment with some new bands, I could.

      The new model, while still better than some of the other schemes kicking around including others suggested by Emusic, doesn't lend itself well to this experimental style.

      It might still work, but the amount of experimentation would be more limited, and I'd have to wait a month to turn experimentation into aquiring more songs from the bands I liked. Eh, maybe I'll try it for a month or two.

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  7. Finally, an online music store I'll take serious by YetAnotherName · · Score: 4, Interesting

    The iTMS was the only online music store that really had me sit up and take notice. Now eMusic is making me do the same thing.

    iTunes is nice since it's cheap per song, but the selection, though huge, misses out one some less mainstream, more niche genres. eMusic seems to fill in the missing areas pretty well (although still not enough psychedelic trance) and provides DRM-free tunes. This company could go quite far.

    For most consumers, though, I think the price-per-song versus a monthly price could still be the deciding factor.

  8. I let my account lapse 3 months ago by mekkab · · Score: 5, Informative

    I had the "Platinum" membership- and to tell you the truth despite my very non-mainstream tastes, they didn't have a whole lot that I liked. Also, I hated how their electronic music was organized (there was little-to-no Drum and Bass/Jungle in the Drum and Bass/Jungle section!) Additionally, a 30 second sample (taken from the first 30 seconds!) of a 10 minute electronic music track (that takes 2 minutes to build up anywhere) is a use-less way to "try before you buy."

    Additionally, there are too many Live recordings (read: poor sounding recordings). For example, they have a bunch of The Selecter tracks, but they're all live. Sorry, I want to studio versions.

    I hope its useful for you. But I paid my money, downloaded some good tracks, a bunch of bad tracks, and walked away.

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    1. Re:I let my account lapse 3 months ago by deliciousmonster · · Score: 3, Informative

      You should check out BeatPort.com. New releases aer encoded at 320 kbps, and previews are a full 2 minutes long.

      If you're not into "uhn-tss uhn-tss uhn-tss" there's not much there for you, but it's great for club music.

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  9. You want cheap? by justkarl · · Score: 3, Insightful

    How about Epitonic for free music downloads! Free, legal, and something that everyone will like.

  10. 192 VBR Good enough? by espressojim · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I encode at 256 or 320 VBR.

    No, no, I'm lying. I encode with ogg, set at quality 6. That's not bad, but it still isn't CD quality.

    If you have a *good* stereo (no, your computer speakers, or a headphone pluged into your soundcard does not count), you'll hear artifacts if you actually have the real source. In addition, mp3's at moderate quality always sound "flat" to me.

    I'll wait until someone offers lossless quality downloads. Until then, I'm far better off buying used CD's...at $3-$5 a CD, it's a far better value.

  11. I still remember by LetterJ · · Score: 5, Interesting

    When Emusic.com had unlimited MP3's for something like $14.99 a month and I was a subscriber for a couple of years. Then they "relaunched" with monthly limits and I jumped ship. I was willing to try new music when there wasn't a limit, but as soon as there was a ceiling, I stopped experimenting with the music in their catalog and dropped the service.

    Now, they're "relaunching" again with what looks like a smaller catalog, the same monthly restrictions, etc. I'm trying to see how this is better. Most likely an attempt to appear as a "new" alternative to iTunes, et al when in fact they've been there all along and are actually on a downward spiral.

  12. What Relaunch? by mmmmmhotpants · · Score: 5, Informative

    I think this anonymous post was an advert.

    Emusic used to be $9.99 per month and unlimited downloads, over a year ago. It was an absolutely amazing service and had me thinking that the world of digital music could be great for all parties.

    I was wrong. Last Fall Emusic was bought out by some other company who changed the policy to the $9.99 for 40 or 50 tracks and its been that way for over a year. I cancelled my subscription.

    After the annoucement was made, but before they switched formats, they pulled horrible stunts like not actually allowing you to download unlimited music (per their contract) but putting some aritifical cap on your downloading. They also used to incriminate people for downloading too much even though there was a unlimited deal in the contract. I started to lose respect for them.

    I don't think there has been a relaunch. I think there is an executive at Emusic trying to get more business via Slashdot.

    If you are reading this Emusic executive, bring back the old unlimited format (even at a higher cost)! Honor your contracts!

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  13. *thumbs up* by incast · · Score: 5, Informative

    I was an emusic subscriber for the earlier part of this year, and it was pretty darn good. My only complaint is that I ran out of stuff to download. That is why I cancelled my account. I'm a big fan of indie music, but I found that there wasn't quite enough to keep me going. And new releases don't show up very quickly.

    But, the revenue sharing program does give 50% to labels/artists, so I found that if I did have extra credits in a month, I would download albums that I had once (illegally) downloaded. This made me feel better about myself.

    I lasted for about 9 months on the old emusic, and it was $100 well spent.

  14. No thanks by peeping_Thomist · · Score: 3, Informative

    I was an Emusic subscriber, but they kept jerking around the users. They continually changed the terms of the service. And their support for Linux was pathetic/nonexistent. What confidence can you have that the service you subscribe to is the service you'll eventually get? They've changed horses in midstream several times in the past; why should I think they aren't going to jerk me around again? Has there been a change of management? That's the only thing that would make me think about going back.

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  15. Allofmp3.com by Xerotope · · Score: 5, Informative

    The poster has forgotten my favorite quasi-legal russian music service, http://www.allofmp3.com/

    They have no DRM what so ever, so it's great for you Linux users. Also, it's based in Russia, so it lends itself to those classic Slashdot "In Soviet Russia..." jokes. (In Soviet Russia, Music DRM You!", sorry, the lamest I could come up with)

    It also has the most complete catalog (including Beatles), is priced right at $0.01 US per megabyte, and has a multitude of on-the-fly encoding options, including ogg Vorbis, Flac and mp3 up to 384 kbps. (however, I think FLAC and other "premium" encodes runs you $0.05 US per megabyte).

    Suposedly it's perfectly legal under Russian copyright law, as long as they compensate the artist directly. Perhaps it's just paying for illegal music downloads that you could otherwise get off Kazaa.

    1. Re:Allofmp3.com by prostoalex · · Score: 4, Informative

      How Russian music licensing works.

      Compulsory licensing, so it's legal as far as they care. It's not really legal to distribute that music outside of Russia though.

  16. there is also magnatune.com by bluelarva · · Score: 5, Informative

    You might be interested in http://magnatune.com/ as well. It's also DRM free and half the money goes directly to the artist. Also there is no subscription fee.

  17. Only on slashdot... by TiggertheMad · · Score: 5, Insightful

    We whine and bitch endlessly for and end to stupid, pointless DMR schemes. We pine for non-propritary formats. We wail when downloads are expensive.

    And we complain when someone tells where it is.

    You guys rock!

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  18. Bleep by vitaflo · · Score: 4, Informative

    This is the first online music store that I will seriously consider. (and actually the first that I _can_ consider since I'm a linux user.

    That's not entirely true. You can buy from Bleep.com, and it's basically the same thing. Non-DRM 192kps MP3s. You just have to like their selection (mostly electronic music on Warp Records). It's been up for a while now, and you pay per song (or album), not a monthly fee (which I prefer).

  19. Re:Uh... near CD quality? by hethopus · · Score: 3, Informative

    I guess you know nothing about music format quality. It's not the kbps that matter. Flac (Free Lossless Audio Codec) plays the exact same bits of a CD. That's why it's called lossless! And, it will give you 700 kBps. Quality is measured with very expensive equipment, not kBps. Mp3 is a lossy codec, meaning it looses quality when encoding.

  20. encourage magnatune by chocolatetrumpet · · Score: 5, Informative

    I am the last person to "promo" a record label, but I can't believe I haven't seen it on slashdot yet.

    Magnatune
    Free mp3 streaming of the entire catalog.

    If you want, pay $5-$18 (you choose!) for an album download (40+ minutes) in mp3, ogg, wav, or whatever it is you like. Artist gets 50%.

    If you want a physical cd, pay $15-$30 (something like that.. you choose!) and the artist gets 100%.

    There is *no crap* in magnatune; all of their members are peer reviewed. It's solid.

    I don't work for them or anything, I am just a very happy customer!

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  21. Re:Uh... near CD quality? by brxndxn · · Score: 5, Funny

    I encode all my CDs in 2822 kbps mp3s, thus exactly doubling the quality of the original CD.

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  22. My only concern is... by The+Fanta+Menace · · Score: 3, Interesting

    ...when you buy digital music such as this, what proof do you have that you really own it?

    I've got a large collection of music in mp3 and ogg formats on my laptop, ripped from my CD collection. I've often been worried about going through international customs at airports and having some over-zealous security nut decide to search the contents of my hard disk drive and then fast-track me to death row for DMCA infringement.

    Now, at least with my mp3 collection, I can point to all of my CDs (well, at home) as proof that I own them. But if I were to buy mp3 files from emusic, what proof do I get that I really own them? Are emusic keeping records of all purchases and will they be willing to provide

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  23. NOT the only one for Linux users!!! by DdJ · · Score: 3, Informative

    I use Audio Lunchbox, which lets you download in both 192kbit MP3 and Ogg Vorbis. I've also poked at Bleep, which currently supports MP3 and is thinking about FLAC.

    Both of these are DRM-free and will give you files that work on Linux (or BeOS or PalmOS or an Amiga or a Newton or whatever).

  24. audiolunchbox.com by thryllkill · · Score: 3, Informative

    no way affiliated with audiolunchbox.com, unless you consider rabid fan to be an affiliation.

    --DRM free
    --mp3s and ogg vorbis encoding (most tracks can be downloaded as ogg, there are a few that are only mp3s I think)
    --independent music
    --similar price scheme as iTMS
    --bigger catalogue than emusic (in fact, most of the good stuff from emusic's glory days is on audiolunchbox.com)
    --did I mention the no DRM

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  25. Re:Uh... near CD quality? by dasmegabyte · · Score: 5, Informative

    What you're talking about is bit quantity. CDs use 1411 kilobits to image a given data sample...44000 packets of two 16 bit values per second.

    This is not the same as quality. Quality in music is the amount of discrete dynamic information recorded within a sample. Believe it or not, storing an accurate representation of the data at a given sample rate and bit strength is not necessarily the best way to preserve quality. It's certainly not the most efficient. With a 1411 kilobits, psychoacoustically compressed sample, you could easily have a much higher bit strength or sample rate with more discrete dynamics than even the CD. Shit, even lossless compression could get double the quality or more at 1411 kilobits than a CD can.

    That number is mostly meaningless for this reason. So is the term "CD Quality." I've seen it used for 192 kbit MP3, 128 kbit AAC, 64 kbit WMA...fact of the matter is, "CD Quality" is whatever you perceive it to be. I happen to really like AAC at 128 and higher bitrates, it preserves the precision I expect when encoding a rhythm section without creating shimmering or tiering. It's great for rock and hip hop. And that's all that matters.

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  26. Audio Lunchbox.... by Sunnan · · Score: 3, Informative

    ...sells unencumbered oggs and mp3:s, both around 192 kbps, your choice to download both or either. (I usually just go for the vorbis.)

    I hate plugging stuff but it's a really small company, they don't seem to do much advertising, and, first and foremost, noone seems to have heard of them, and they deserve better than that. They've been great to me and they have stuff that's often hard to find on p2p.

  27. I did sign up... cancelled already. by citiZen2010 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I haven't even seen the catalog yet. :)

    I thought I would check this service out quickly. I trusted them with my name, email, street address, and credit card #. Hopefully that won't come back to bite me in the ass. Anyway, I hadn't seen the catalog before giving out this info either. It didn't seem to be available from the free trial page I arrived at. Feeling adventurous, I took the plunge anyway.

    As I suspected, the music selection is extremely limited, and of pretty terrible sound quality, despite being encoded at relatively high bitrate. The first thing I tried was a Bob Marley track "Sun Is Shining" from the "Natural Mystic" album released on the Avid label (not Island Records). It sounded like a cassette dub... really awful. It was MP3 encoded at 154kbps VBR, so the source must be the problem. I went to Amazon to check if this album was legit, and one of the comments there said it was a bootleg, and to avoid it since proceeds would not go to the artist's family. Strike One!

    Wanting to be fair to the service, I only went for tracks of their "Featured Artists", figuring that they would have some quality control going on there. Bob Marley was a "Featured Artist", so they deserved that first strike. The next artist I tried was Moby. I thought it would be less likely that they would be ripping off an artist who was still alive... Well, I clicked on the "Moby" link and waited. And waited. Mozilla says: "Waiting for www.emusic.com..." After a few minutes, I gave up trying to score a Moby track. Strike Two!

    Ok... I'm starting to lose hope. Let's give them another chance. I tried Willie Nelson next. Hmmm... still nonresponsive. Could it be that they've been slashdotted? Somehow I wasn't seeing thousands of slashdotters whipping out their wallets like I did, so I tried another strategy. I logged on from another machine. All of a sudden, things are pretty snappy again. Hmmm... what's up with that? Anyway, I tried perusing the classical selection. I couldn't really find anything exciting to listen to, and the search was difficult because they have everything arranged by sub-genre and album name, instead of composer. I did settle on a track from the piano recital of some dude I've never heard. It was ok I guess, but no way am I staying with this service I thought. It's just too lame. Strike Three!

    Ok, game's over, or so I think. I click on the account link and wait. And wait. And wait... Oh Phew! There's the account page. I quickly click on the "Cancel" link. Still slow, but I'm relieved when the next page comes up asking the primary reason why I'm cancelling. All of the reasons are equally enticing, things like "I'm having technical problems" and "Not enough music in my favorite genre." I settle on one and click on the "Cancel My Subscription" link. Then I got this message:

    Your eMusic account has been set to cancel at the end of this billing period. Your credit card will not be charged again (emphasis mine). If you have any downloads remaining, you may finish downloading them until the end of your current billing period.

    Wait a minute! I thought this was supposed to be a free trial. If those mofos charged my card I'm going to go ballistic! I'm not so sure this is the kind of service that I want to encourage...