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Flexible Sensors Make Robot Skin

Roland Piquepaille writes "In recent years, lots of efforts have been made to give robots the ability to hear and see. But what about the sense of touch? Unlike us, robots don't have sensitive skin. But this is about to change. By using organic, or plastic, field-effect transistors as pressure sensors deposited on a flexible material, researchers at the University of Tokyo have created an artificial skin which will give robots the sense of touch. The prototype has a density of 16 sensors per square centimeter, far from the 1,500 of our fingertips. When this density increases and when the problem of the reliability of this kind of transistors is solved, the researchers say this artificial skin will also be used for car seats or gym carpets. Expect to see them in four or five years. More details and a picture of a robotic hand using organic transistors as pressure sensors."

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  1. Fo real by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    More real realdoll.

    *big smile*

    Oh yeah

    1. Re:Fo real by victor_the_cleaner · · Score: 4, Funny

      That's what I thought of first, the pr0n impact.

      Then of course during the first 'interface' with your new sensitive doll, it would remark... "is that all you got?"

    2. Re:Fo real by siegesama · · Score: 2, Insightful

      *ahem* Now that's science!

      --
      what the hell is a 'junk character', anyway?
  2. Roland Piquepaille writes nothing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative


    he just plaigarises other peoples content

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  3. Prosthetics by The+Only+Druid · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I haven't read the article yet, but my first thought when I read the blurb was whether or not this would have applications for prosthetics?

    One of the most difficult parts of rehabilitation for amputees, even with the most expensive and advanced prosthesis, is that the most sensitivity available nowadays is a highly generalied "touching something/not touching something" or a translation of general amounts of pressure (and thats only on the most advanced: most models have no sensors at all). If we could provide amputees with limbs that felt, albeit in a much reduced fashion, many behaviors that require positive feedback (i.e. to be able to adjust your movements based on what you feel in that limb) could become accesible for the disabled.

    --
    "Stumble before you crawl"
    1. Re:Prosthetics by erick99 · · Score: 2, Interesting
      I think it is very likely. If 16 sensors per sq cm is their first go 'round, you gotta figure it will be close to 100 before too long. Once the density is higher and the size of each sensor correspondingly smaller, the "skin" can be even thinner and can be wrapped more tightly and around things such as "fingers." Well, anyway, it sure sounds like a good idea. I hope it happens.

      -erick

      --
      http://www.busyweather.com/
    2. Re:Prosthetics by Impeesa · · Score: 5, Interesting

      It could work, but other technology needs to catch up first. Fairly detailed sensors could be installed in current prosthetics, I'm sure, but the machine-nerve interface just doesn't carry enough data yet. It doesn't matter whether we know what that data means, since the brain can probably learn to interpret it on its own, but we just don't have the fine control over the interface that we would need. In related news, an article in this month's Discover (full text viewable to subscribers) discusses a lot of these limitations, although it comes at it from the angle of whether mind-reading (or controlling) computer chips are possible.

    3. Re:Prosthetics by NoMoreNicksLeft · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Actually, I believe the most successful prosthetics actually just apply the sensation to the skin of the stump itself. For instance, a heat sensor in the hand will activate something that heats up against the stump, imparting the sensation.

      I've read of some that have quite a few pressure sensors in them, that apply some sort of electrical 'tickle' to what's left of the leg... supposedly makes it much easier to walk with them.

    4. Re:Prosthetics by Impeesa · · Score: 2, Informative

      Exactly - by applying sensations straight to the skin, you're whitewashing a huge number of nerves with the same sensation. With such inefficient input to the nervous system, you'd have pads and stuff all the way up your arm just to transmit the kind of data this skin could generate. It can't be used efficiently until we can more accurately send signals to just a small number of nerves at once.

  4. Every time I sit down in my car... by Short+Circuit · · Score: 5, Funny

    KITT: "You know, Mike, we need to talk about how you're doing on your diet."

  5. "Is it becoming clear to you yet?" by Sialagogue · · Score: 5, Interesting

    "Look at yourself, standing there, cradling the new flesh I've given you. If it means nothing to you, why protect it?"

    "I... I am simply imitating the behavior of humans."

    "You're becoming more human all the time. . .Now you're learning how to lie."

    "My programming was not designed to process these sensations."

    "Then tear the skin from your limb as you would a defective circuit...Go ahead...! We won't stop you! Do it! Don't be tempted by flesh!"

    --
    The only acceptable defense of scientific results is to say that they were the product of the Scientific Method.
    1. Re:"Is it becoming clear to you yet?" by Sneeper · · Score: 3, Funny


      And thousands of slashdotters pause to fantasize about the Borg Queen. Sexiest. Villain. Ever.

    2. Re:"Is it becoming clear to you yet?" by pyrrhonist · · Score: 5, Funny
      And thousands of slashdotters pause to fantasize about the Borg Queen. Sexiest. Villain. Ever.

      Well, she gives good head anyway, but that's probably because hers is detachable.

      --
      Show me on the doll where his noodly appendage touched you.
  6. You know where the money is by Frac · · Score: 3, Funny

    Make the inflatable dolls play audio clips when certain sensors are touched.

    My parents would be so proud.

    1. Re:You know where the money is by cryms0n · · Score: 4, Funny

      "Hey that's sexual harrassment!"

      "Put your finger there again and lose it!"

      "Don't touch me, weirdo!"

      And, my favorite,

      "Just what do you think you're doing, Dave?"

  7. Roland Piquepaille writes nothing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative


    he just plaigarises other peoples content and sells it on his blog

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  8. New Gillette Robo-Shave by koreth · · Score: 3, Interesting
    Unlike us, robots don't have sensitive skin.

    So they'll save lots of money on aftershave and electric razors.

    All hail our new cleanshaven robot masters.

    1. Re:New Gillette Robo-Shave by Capt'n+Hector · · Score: 3, Funny

      Then I guess you also don't understand cutting your hair and nails... yup, your average slashdotter!

      --
      Quid festinatio swallonis est aetherfuga inonusti?
      Africus aut Europaeus?
    2. Re:New Gillette Robo-Shave by ak_hepcat · · Score: 2, Funny

      It probably has something to do with different tactile sensations being more pleasing to some people than others.

      For instance, there are a large group (*gasp*) of people who shave all of the hair around their genitals. Crazy! So either they're rushing, on a swim team, or perverts, right?

      Try it once or twice.

      --
      Support FSF: Stop thinking with your wallet, and think with your imagination. (cc/non-commercial)
  9. What's with the Piquepaille posts? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Everybody complaining about Slashdot becoming Piquepaille's personal soapbox for plagiarisim seems to get instantly modded down. Is he a pseudonym for one of the Slashdot editors or something?

    Anyway, what is the robot ability up to now?

    * Has skin
    * Eats flies
    * Can transform into other robots
    * Walks on water

    It sounds like the plans are coming together nicely for overlord robots.

    1. Re:What's with the Piquepaille posts? by lucabrasi999 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I have been known to make a few anti-Roland posts in the past. When I first started paying attention to Roland's posts, I couldn't understand why many people hated him, either. But, now, I understand why. On one hand, Maybe part of it is overexposure. However, I think more of it has to do with his neverending spam and questionable approach to copyright law.

      If you look here, you will see the T's & C's for using information from the source of Roland's story. If you read the fine print, you will see a sentence that reads "Use of this material for commercial purposes without explicit, written permission from Technology Research News, LLC is strictly prohibited".

      Roland's blog is purely a commercial enterprise. He uses the ads on his blog to collect money. By copying and pasting entire paragraphs from the Technology Research News article, he is breaking the copyright.

      Of course, maybe he does have 'explicit written permission'. But I doubt it. Why do I say this? Look at how he writes the article. Where is isn't copying and pasting, he is purely summarizing what was originally written by anybody else. Now, look at this link. Look at how he writes. No new information. he just collects information from dozens of web sites and either plagiarizes those sites or points to them through his blog. He must be collecting dozens of RSS feeds and picking and choosing what he thinks are the best.

      Even worse, some of his posts are nothing but advertisements for products.

      Now, let us say Roland DOES have legal explicit permission from all of those sites to copy and paste articles for his personal profit. I could live with that, IF he was adding additional insight into technology. Unfortunately, he isn't. His blog adds nothing to society.

      No insight. No thoughts on where technology is heading. No review of how technology has come this far. He is just parroting what somebody else has written. The only logical explanation for him even having a web log is for the hope that you will be dumb enough to click one of his revenue-generating ads.

  10. Complaining Robots by A+Boy+and+His+Blob · · Score: 3, Informative

    Oh great, one more thing for Marvin to complain about.

    I think you ought to know I'm feeling very depressed, and my leg hurts too.

  11. Eeew I can see it now by aarku · · Score: 4, Funny

    Mom: Joey! Stop bouncing around in your seat!
    Joey: But Maaa!
    Back Seat: .... Please don't stop...

  12. Re:Cool by Short+Circuit · · Score: 2, Funny

    On the bright side, you could use strong sterilization methods; less risk of STDs.

  13. I for one by lonesome+phreak · · Score: 3, Funny

    welcome our new golden skinned robotic overlords.

    Seriously, that picture kinda creeps me out.

    --
    Maybe we DID take the blue pill. You wouldn't remember anyway.
  14. Article repost and image by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative
    http://radio.weblogs.com/0105910/images/flexible_s kin.jpg
    Flexible Sensors Make Robot Skin

    In recent years, lots of efforts have been made to give robots the ability to hear and see. But what about the sense of touch? Unlike us, robots don't have sensitive skin. But this is about to change. By using organic, or plastic, field-effect transistors as pressure sensors deposited on a flexible material, researchers at the University of Tokyo have created an artificial skin which will give robots the sense of touch . The prototype has a density of 16 sensors per square centimeter, far from the 1,500 of our fingertips. When this density increases and when the problem of the reliability of this kind of transistors is solved, the researchers say this artificial skin will also be used for car seats or gym carpets. Expect to see them in four or five years. Read more...

    Here are selected excerpts from the Technology Research News article.

    Researchers from the University of Tokyo have devised pressure-sensor arrays that promise to give objects like rugs and robots the equivalent of one aspect of skin -- pressure sensitivity.
    The researchers' pressure sensor arrays are built from inexpensive organic, or plastic, transistors on a flexible material. This allows for dense arrays that can be used over large areas.
    The arrays could be used in pressure-sensitive coverings in hospitals, homes, gyms and cars to monitor people's health and performance, and eventually as skin that would give robots the means to interact more sensitively with their surroundings, said Takao Someya, an associate professor of electrical engineering at the University of Tokyo.
    The sensor skin works even when rolled around a cylinder as small as 4 millimeters in diameter, said Someya. The researchers' prototype is an eight-centimeter-square sheet containing a 32-by-32 array of organic sensors -- a density of 16 sensors per square centimeter. In contrast, humans have 1,500 pressure sensors per square centimeter in the fingertips, though far fewer in most other places.
    Here is a picture of a robotic hand using organic transistors as pressure sensors. (Credit: Takao Someya)

    And what are possible applications?

    The active-matrix design allows the arrays to be smart enough to enable specific sensors at certain feedback points to, for instance, monitor the heart and breathing rate of a hospital patient who has fallen to the floor, said Someya. The skin could measure whether an elderly patient is just taking a rest, or needs help, he said.
    The skin could also be used in car seats to monitor drivers' mental and physical conditions, Someya said. "Our large-area pressure [sensing abilities] would be helpful" in obtaining information through drivers seats, he said.

    And, of course, we'll see home robots able to pick an egg in the fridge.

    The research work has been published by the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences on July 6, 2004, under the title "A large-area, flexible pressure sensor matrix with organic field-effect transistors for artificial skin applications." Here is a link to the abstract .

  15. Good stuff... by Frennzy · · Score: 2, Interesting

    As already mentioned, I see great things ahead for prosthetics. If this is a first shot at 16sensors/cm^2, surely it will be easy to make advances in not only materials but simple manufacturing processes that could greatly increase that.

    It looks like the first in a long series of hurdles may just about be cleared.

    There are also numerous industrial/scientific/sporting applications for something like this...imagine having NFL sidelines undercoated with this stuff...no more debate or bad vision angles....he was in or he was out. Or what about measuring even more precisely the impact at each discreet point on a runners feet? Or the force of a boxer's punch? Or the accuracy of a baseball bat or golf club as it comes into contact with the ball?

    Cool stuff.

  16. This Isn't New by holderofthering · · Score: 2, Interesting
    Nasa has had a working version of some of this technology since the late ninties i believe, they were using it experimentaly on the new generation of CanadaArms for the ISS. It was being developed so that there would be another way to see if the arm was hitting anything, besieds just looking out the window. If i rember correctly the project was having some problems becuase it was taking a huge amount of power to run the touch sensative surface.

    Haven't hered anything about it in the last 2-3 years, but Yeah, not new.

  17. from my blog... by feelyoda · · Score: 2, Interesting

    check out my blog, where i post comments interesting stuff related to robotics...

    My post on this topic is here and below.

    Flexible sensors make robot skin. This could have a number of applications. The first two I imagine are a richer interface between machines and humans and advanced manipulation.

    If cheap enough, the machine can understand the precise location and posture of a human. Mentioned in the article are car seats. Imagine a bed which adjusted itself to minimize pressure points.

    I should mention a project out of CMU by Chris Atkeson and Daniel Wilson, where he put only a few cheap accelerometers in the floorboard of a house. The algorithm processing these sensors could localize humans in the rooms with remarkable accuracy. The challenge then becomes sensor fusion and system integration, in using this information to boost performance of the entire system. For instance, a human tracker using vision alone would be dwarfed by such a system which had a reasonable seed guess from pressure sensors.

    The second application is for rich manipulation. A robot grasping a glass must do so with enough pressure to not drop it, but also enough sensitivity to not break it. I doubt humans use significant higher reasoning in this process, unlike the advantage humans have over computer vision programs. Rather, robots could sense the weight fairly easily, but also the type of surface, and learn how brittle such a surface is.

    --

    Robo-Blogs of the world: UNITE!
  18. Re:THE SENSOR-SENSATION GAP by kfg · · Score: 5, Funny

    how does one overcome the sensor-sensation gap?

    In the case of a sex android one does not even bother trying, as it's only the sensations produced in the human componant that matter.

    All the android has be able to do is adeptly fake it, making it more of an android wife than an android girlfriend.

    KFG

  19. Oh yeah, greeeeat... by spoco2 · · Score: 2, Funny

    "this artificial skin will also be used for car seats or gym carpets"

    Car Seat: You seem to have put on a bit of weight mam.
    Driver: I have not, how dare you.
    Car Seat: And, if I feel correctly you... yup, oh yeah, over there, feel that... you've got some cellulite on your thighs too.
    Driver: My god! I never!
    Car Seat: I feel you are now tensing your buttocks madam...

  20. Why this is not going to help much + a better way by zytheran · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I started a Masters degree on this issue in the 1980's and it's sad to see the same *wrong* approach to touch still being applied if the end use is a robotic hand/finger. At the time MIT was doing work on this, as were a few other places, all with the wrong approach. Here's the problem:
    It's not the sensors or the density or how long they last or their accuracy or anything like that, even though these are real problems. The big killer problem is wiring. You get all these signals and at some point you need to get the wiring over joints that have to bend a real lot. And the more sensors you have the wires your typically going to have. Eventually you end up with bundles of wires and the simple fact is bundles of wires do not like being bent repeatedly, apart from which fingers need to be skinny to be useful and this is at odds with fat bundles of wires.

    One solution however is physically simple and was presented at a National robotics conference in Australia in 1990. In summary I proposed and had made a working 2D slice of finger that used only 4 sensors. A 3D finger tip would require about 9 sensors, and by finger tip I mean measuring the major contact, magnitude and direction anywhere beyond the joint. The method was based on normal engineering and had the 4 sensors buried into a compliant skin. An external force caused a reading on all 4 strain gauges. From this small amount of data a PC worked out the magnitude, position and direction of the applied force using data collected from earlier testing. As a 2D finger slice it could successfully follow an edge when attached to a robot arm. I can scan and email the paper (this was pre net days) if any researchers want to extend this work and come up with practical robotic fingers. Email me.
    Another solution is to put the smarts into the skin so only a "summary" signal needs to go back through the various joints. This couldn't be done in the 80's but could be now?

  21. Re:So are fingertips the most sensitive body part? by kfg · · Score: 2, Interesting

    The tongue is the most sensitive body part (in multiple senses no less). Whether you consider that a risque part or not depends entirely on your predilections.

    KFG

  22. Same approach, different technology, 25 years ago by real+gumby · · Score: 2, Interesting

    This is the same class of technology that Danny Hillis invented 25 years ago at the MIT AI Lab. At that time it wasn't organic transistors (just the plain 'ol inorganic kind) of course!

    I can't find any specific references to it on the web, only some in passing. If I remember he used pantyhose to separate two conductive layers...

  23. Re:yeah, right! by blakestah · · Score: 2, Informative

    You can sense the difference between two and one point on your skin when they are separated by a little less than a mm.

    Low threshold mechanoreceptors, of two different types, each have about 1/mm2 density in the fingertip, or about 100/sq cm. These two types are different in temporal sensitivity and dynamic range, but allow sensation of skin deflections from a few microns to a few millimeters - roughly three orders of magnitude range.

    16 will not allow a reasonable assessment of surface texture. It will not allow you to discriminate 100 grit from 200 grit sandpaper. It will not allow you to read Braille, or find the right key in your pocket.

    But certainly it will allow lots of function.

  24. Sense of touch, someones been watching too.. by msimm · · Score: 2, Insightful

    much Star Trek. At best you mean tactile feedback. Touch is something you might require, say.. sentience to appreciate and we aren't there quite yet.

    --
    Quack, quack.
  25. Re:Why this is not going to help much + a better w by Animats · · Score: 3, Informative
    The problem is not that you can't do it. It's that the market is so dinky that tooling up to do it isn't worth it.

    It should be feasible to make integrated silicon strain gauge/amplifier/interface chips, embed them in a flexible printed circuit, and laminate them into a skin-like laminate with appropriate tough, soft, and hard layers. But the processes involved are all high-volume ones - it's hard to do this economically in small volume. And there's no market for a process that turns out big rolls of this stuff.

    There's a lot of stuff in robotics that's like that. Linear motors and laser scanners both cost about 20x what they should. because the volume is tiny. Even basic servomotos and servo amps cost 5x as much as they should, based on parts cost.

    It's getting better, though. More and more parts needed in robotics are becoming off the shelf. I run a DARPA Grand Challenge team, and over the last year, many of the components you need for that have become far more available.

  26. Finally! Anti-Ninja surfaces! Affair Detectors! by digital+photo · · Score: 3, Funny

    After decades of research, there is now the technology to defeat those wall clinging, ceiling hiding, floor light-footing ninjas!(and web slingers, kung fu masters, ballerinas, etc).

    Just apply the new "feel it" intelligent surface film to every surface inside and outside of your home!

    Know instantly by pattern recognition and fuzzy logic, when your loved one is cheating on you and know exactly on what table, floor, wall, or patio! You will know the exact time(s) and how many times your loved one has gotton the good vibration from your neighbor, your cook, your best friend... all this data can then be converted to full motion, surround sound video footage for personal review, use in court, and on a variety of daytime talk shows. (Video footage generation available when using "Feel It" intelligent films with "See It" intelligent films. Please consult your local informational technology contractor for proper installation procedures!)

    Know when that den of roaches comes out for their nightly snack attack on your pet's food and your early morning english muffins!

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    All this can be yours if you are willing to apply the new "feel it" intelligent surface sheets to each and every possible surface in your home.

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  27. God solved this problem with hair by Deorus · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Most of the touch sensivity is provided by hair, not the skin itself. In fact, the skinn doesn't feel anything since it's made of dead cells. What gives us the perception of feeling are the nerves beneath the skin which connect to the small hairs outside. High detailed pressure and directional sensivity (used to feel textures) is provided by hair. The remaining touch feeling is the low detailed pressure one described in this article.

    We have milions of small hairs all over the skin, even on the fingertips. Try placing two fingertips close to each other in front of your eyes and you will notice that you feel them touching before they actually touch each other, this is because of the small hairs there.

    This is also the reason why people have hair on top of their heads, to protect them from accidentally colliding with stuff (and to keep the heat for that matter), my hair has helped me a lot avoidiong painful collisions with solid objects above me in the dark several times.

    If you ever tried to shave to the point where there was no more hair on your face (pretty easy if you do it with a shaving blade), you've probably noticed that your touch sensivity decayed a lot for a while (until hair grown bck there later).

    1. Re:God solved this problem with hair by uglyduckling · · Score: 4, Informative
      Utter rubbish.

      I'm a med student - I had to respond to this one. There are 6 types of tactile receptors, of which nerve endings attached to hairs are one. Hairs provide basic information about movement - the wind or your clothes moving past your skin etc.

      The tips of your fingers are hairless. That's obvious - look at them under a magnifying glass or microscope if you have one. Fine touch sensation is provided by Tactile Discs and Tactile Corpuscles located in the ("live") skin of the dermis. The skin is not made exclusively of "dead" cells, but of many layers, and the ("dead") epidermis at the surface is quite capable of transmitting movement down to these cells.

      You can check all of this out if you want.

      People have hair on their heads mainly for insulation (get a crew cut in the middle of winter if you want to prove this!) although I agree that hair on the head has a limited use in avoiding collisions. I suspect that subjective loss of sensation in the face after shaving is due to the trauma of having run a blade over your skin, and the stinging sensation from the damage to hair follicles.