Star Wars DVD Changes XBox Dashboard

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Star Wars DVD Changes XBox Dashboard

Posted by Zonk on Friday September 24, 2004 @03:24AM from the this-was-the-console-you-wanted-all-along dept.

Megaphoneman writes "Apparently the new Star Wars Trilogy DVD set will automatically change your dashboard appearance if played on an XBox...without asking the user first!"

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Modding by DJayC · 2004-09-24 03:27 · Score: 4, Interesting

Hopefully this will have a positive impact in the world of XBox modding. It would be nice to be able to run unsigned binaries without modding my xbox. There are a lot of useful homebrew applications out there. It's interesting that there's no notification that the disc will update your dashboard...
1. Re:Modding by wolfmanXUG · 2004-09-24 03:47 · Score: 2, Interesting
  
  I find that its reported to not give any notification that it is updating the dashboard to be something that I do not like. I havea feeling that it is "signed" which would enable it to run on the Xbox.
2. Re:Modding by DJayC · 2004-09-24 04:25 · Score: 4, Interesting
  
  Yes, assuming it is "signed", maybe this will shed a little light on how exactly something is considered "signed". The point the article makes is that it loads an image much the same way a modded xbox loads a harddrive image. Perhaps there is something slightly different going on here.. since it's on a video DVD (an abnormal XBOX structured disc), this may count out the physical structure of the disc as part of the "signing" process. This might lead to new discoverys, and at least count out certain things.
  
  It may not be a huge turn of events, but I really think this will prove to give those of us interested in XBOX modding a little more information.. every little bit helps!
3. Re:Modding by wolfmanXUG · 2004-10-06 09:37 · Score: 1
  
  yes mych like finding another peice of a puzzle. I had always thought that it was games that had to be "signed" in order to run, though clearly this is not the case.
Microsoft... by WormholeFiend · 2004-09-24 03:30 · Score: 4, Funny

Once you start down the dark path, forever will it dominate your destiny...
Dreamcast anyone? by LordJezo · 2004-09-24 03:32 · Score: 1

Yeah, maybe this will open up a whole new world of ways to run things, much like the Dreamcast was eventually able to run unsigned code with out a seperate loader cd!
Quit Whining. by SansTinfoilHat · 2004-09-24 03:33 · Score: 5, Funny

That's how Bill originally intended the dashboard to be. They just didn't have the technology in 2001.
And do you know why? by grm_wnr · 2004-09-24 03:34 · Score: 3, Funny

...because it will make sure that in ANY game EVER, the bad guy always shoots first.
this makes me wonder.... by rubberbando · 2004-09-24 03:37 · Score: 3, Interesting

if it will auto install stuff on a windows PC as well?

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Oh George.. by Taulin · 2004-09-24 03:39 · Score: 3, Insightful

George not only wants to change Star Wars with new graphics, but he wants to change everything else too.
Thus meaning by netvoid · 2004-09-24 03:39 · Score: 5, Funny

Star Wars DVD shoots first!
Dashboard by cL0h · 2004-09-24 03:41 · Score: 4, Funny

It can change my dashboard just by playing on an XBox.
I have a japanese import. Is it compatible? Does the XBox have to be in the car?

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1. Re:Dashboard by forged · 2004-09-24 09:53 · Score: 1
  
  Fortunately you may get a fresh, Ms-certified, Live dashboard right from the source (for people wondering: torrent link to SlaYers EvoX Auto-Installer v2.6 FINAL, the über-installation disc for modded xboxes).
thanks george, it was looking shabby by DrSkwid · 2004-09-24 03:45 · Score: 1, Funny

I, for one, welcome our new Lucasian overlords. :)

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Cooperation with Microsoft by csplinter · 2004-09-24 03:50 · Score: 1, Interesting

I wonder what microsoft thinks about this?
changes by laard · 2004-09-24 03:52 · Score: 3, Insightful

This is kinda like how George changed star wars without asking the fans first

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1. Re:changes by Romeozulu · 2004-09-24 04:15 · Score: 3, Insightful
  
  George doesn't have to "ask the fans", it's his freaking movie, not yours, he can do anything he wants with it. If you don't like it, don't buy it.
2. Re:changes by dacarr · 2004-09-24 04:17 · Score: 0
  
  Oh, quit whining about that, it's his baby!
  
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3. Re:changes by real_smiff · 2004-09-24 04:56 · Score: 1
  
  alright, so George has pissed all over your childhood memories. but does he have to ask you before changing your xbox dashboard?
  
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4. Re:changes by GeckoX · 2004-09-24 05:09 · Score: 2, Insightful
  
  Nobody is suggesting it isn't within his rights.
  Everyone knows however that it's fucking ignorant and nobody likes it.
  
  End result? Pissed off EX fans and lost customers.
  
  Ever heard this saying?
  You can be right, and you can be dead right.
  
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5. Re:changes by Karma+Farmer · 2004-09-24 05:18 · Score: 1
  
  Hey! Quit your whining It's not like he quit distributing copies of the original Star Wars. That's the point of copyright law, after all. Remember that copyright is built into the US Constitution for a reason:
  To promote the progress of science and useful arts, by securing for limited times to authors and inventors the exclusive right to their respective writings and discoveries;
  Everyone knows that if he just stopped making copies of the original available, he wouldn't be promoting the progress of science or useful arts, and he would lose his copyright on it.
6. Re:changes by andyt · 2004-09-24 05:27 · Score: 2, Insightful
  
  Everyone knows that if he just stopped making copies of the original available, he wouldn't be promoting the progress of science or useful arts, and he would lose his copyright on it.
  
  *blink*
  waitasecond here....
  
  does this mean that, since Lucas has publically stated on many occasions that he will never release the original movies again (only the Special Editions which are demonstrably not the same), then at some point in the (far, far) future, he will lose the copyright on Star Wars and it will enter the public domain?
  
  *ohpleaseohpleaseohplease*
7. Re:changes by Karma+Farmer · 2004-09-24 05:32 · Score: 2, Insightful
  
  No. You see, I was being sarcastic. Copyright and Patent law has reached the stage where it is used to retard the arts and sciences, not promote it as was originally intended.
  
  I honestly believe that if the owner refuses to distribute a work, they should lose the exclusive rights to that work. You're not going to find too many people who agree with me, though. Certainly not lawmakers or judges, anyhow.
8. Re:changes by KDR_11k · 2004-09-24 05:50 · Score: 1
  
  Yeah, that Laard guy is probably one of those pro-life freaks! Give Lucas a choice!
  
  (note that this is not meant to be a political statement)
  
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9. Re:changes by Anonymous Coward · 2004-09-24 05:51 · Score: 0
  
  You're right. Because the money to pay for those movies came out of nowhere. It's not like we paid George Lucas's bills... oh, wait.
10. Re:changes by bonkedproducer · 2004-09-24 06:20 · Score: 1
  
  Sarcasm , consider looking it up sometime. I think you'll be impressed.
  
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11. Re:changes by Anonymous Coward · 2004-09-24 06:35 · Score: 0
  
  I bet you're going to walk around all day on that one, feeling like you just laid the smack down.
  
  Funny enough, the grandparent statement doesn't fit the definition very well. And sarcasm only works when it's not obtuse to the point of obfuscation.
  
  P.S. is that a canned ham?
  
  k.d. lang!!!
12. Re:changes by Anonymous Coward · 2004-09-24 06:55 · Score: 0
  
  Yes, it is his baby. But there comes a point in life when you need to let go.
13. Re:changes by HTH+NE1 · 2004-09-24 07:09 · Score: 1
  
  it's his freaking movie, not yours
  
  Only for the "limited" time granted by copyright. All works must fall out of their creator's hands and into the public domain. Even Lucas'.
  
  Planning to deny the public domain of published works should result in forfeiture of copyright over those works.
  
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14. Re:changes by Dizzle · 2004-09-24 10:59 · Score: 1
  
  Oh come on. Unless it affects you in some serious fashion other than "stomped" childhood memories (I'm assuming it isn't.) then just let him. Besides, that's not what the major issue is. The DVD is modifying something without your permission.
  
  Although something tells me Lucas wasn't the one behind this snafu.
  
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15. Re:changes by Anonymous Coward · 2004-09-25 08:06 · Score: 0
  
  my memories have not changed due to a new version of a movie coming out. its a new edition, not retroactively replacing the past.
Puhlease... by Anonymous Coward · 2004-09-24 03:54 · Score: 4, Informative

... the Dashboard was only modified to prompt you for playing the Battlefront demo or playing the DVD content. You won't see the prompt without the DVD adapter plugged in to your Xbox.
This wasn't part of the deal! by Talondel · 2004-09-24 03:57 · Score: 5, Funny

I have altered the dashboard, pray I don't alter it any further.
1. Re:This wasn't part of the deal! by kcorporation · 2004-09-24 06:09 · Score: 1
  
  Yeah, it's his xbox after all. He can change it all he wants ;-)
obligatory jar-jar: by Anonymous Coward · 2004-09-24 04:16 · Score: 4, Funny

"how wuuude"
Re:I don't care by Bachus9000 · 2004-09-24 04:30 · Score: 1

I think you meant to say something else...Perhaps something like, "I don't have an Xbox, you insensitive clod!"

I had to, I'm sorry. This is /., after all...
Game Genie by Anonymous Coward · 2004-09-24 04:47 · Score: 0

Sweet, now the gad guys in all of my games will always miss when they try to hit me!
In Soviet Russia... by Anonymous Coward · 2004-09-24 05:29 · Score: 0

In Soviet Russia, Xbox Dashboard updates you!
Re:I don't care by tsa · 2004-09-24 05:48 · Score: 1

Maybe then I would not have gotten a -2: Troll moderation. I know it was a lame joke but I'm surprised how lame people find it :-)

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Re:I don't care by Anonymous Coward · 2004-09-24 05:54 · Score: 1, Interesting

Yeah, and surprisingly enough, if you post in a NASA story with "I don't care, I'm not an astronaut :-)" you won't get any fucking points for that one either. Because, hard as you may find it to believe, no one gives a tin shit if you own an X-Box or not. If you have nothing relevant to say, be prepared to get modded -1, Fucking Meaningless.

If you want to be modded funny, say something funny, you toe-tapping burgermeister.
Welcome to my WEB by Anonymous Coward · 2004-09-24 05:56 · Score: 0

said the spider to the FLY.
And?.... by Anonymous Coward · 2004-09-24 06:08 · Score: 2, Interesting

Plenty of Xbox games do this. Welcome to last year, fellas.
1. Re:And?.... by Anonymous Coward · 2004-09-24 08:11 · Score: 0
  
  Exactly - most Xbox games (especially those that support Xbox Live) have the latest version of the firmware & boot software. If the machine doesn't have at least that version at game load time - it's upgraded automatically.
  
  Happens with many other games (I think it last happened to me when I played XIII online), so why should anyone who actually knows anything about Xbox behaviour think that this is so unusual?
  
  Those that have voided their warranty should have long ago abandoned the idea that their Xbox would be able to officially do anything (play DVDs or games) after upgrading it.
  
  I want to mod this article as a troll.
2. Re:And?.... by Anonymous Coward · 2004-09-24 10:41 · Score: 0
  
  so why should anyone who actually knows anything about Xbox behaviour think that this is so unusual?
  Maybe because this isn't a game?
It's better than that damn paperclip by chia_monkey · 2004-09-24 06:58 · Score: 3, Funny

"It looks like you're trying to watch a DVD. Would you like to change your dashboard?"

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Re:I don't care by Anonymous Coward · 2004-09-24 07:29 · Score: 0

Your post, and this one, should be modded down to -1, Offtopic. Meta discussions about posting are quite wasteful.

On a similar note, eat a dick.
Re:I don't care by Anonymous Coward · 2004-09-24 07:32 · Score: 0

Insenstive clod posts tend to take the tone that the poster is sensitive in his jealousies. But in this situation, the poster is clearly in the enviable position of NOT owning a Microsoft Xbox.
Reminds me of Dreamcast Shadowman by JRootabega · 2004-09-24 11:06 · Score: 1

Reminds me of how Shadowman for Dreamcast semi-permanently changed your VMU icon to the teddy bear.
1. Re:Reminds me of Dreamcast Shadowman by Psykechan · 2004-09-25 00:39 · Score: 1
  
  ...or all of Capcom's first gen DC games.
  
  Yeah, I really want my icon changed to your stupid logo.
Looked like it was just a dashboard update by dreamquick · 2004-09-24 22:14 · Score: 1

I bought the DVD set the other day, when I went to check out the demo it did indeed update itself with no prompts...

However looking at the end results it appears that all that the changes relate to xbox-live (ie it's now on my dashboard, it wasnt before) so I'm assuming that either something about the demo required a element of the updated xbox live package, or that MS cut a deal to get the xbox dashboard update pushed out.