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Football Fans For Truth

Football Fans For Truth, a real 527 organization, has updated their site with more evidence showing that John Kerry is not a true sports fan or athlete. Among the charges: he doesn't know the name of the venerable home of the Green Bay Packers, he "throws a football like a girl," and he "can't catch a football at all." Not limiting themselves to football, they also provide plenty of evidence he doesn't know much about baseball.

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  1. So What... by ThePilgrim · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The election is for Presedent, not head coach.

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  2. What the Fuck? by Motherfucking+Shit · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Did I miss something?

    Granted, I'm not in one of the swing states, I live in Tennessee... So I have yet to see a Kerry ad on TV, all I've seen are Bush commercials. However, I've tried to keep up with both campaigns online, not only at their own websites but in terms of political discussion elsewhere. I don't recall hearing that Kerry ever claimed to be a pro football player, or even an expert about football. What did I miss?

    In November, I'm going to be voting for my choice of presidential candidates (among a number of local offices as well). And, in the immortal words of Lee Elia for you sports fans, "I'll tell you one fucking thing" - whether or not the candidates are good at sports, know about sports, or even like sports has absolutely zero effect on who I'm going to vote for. Please tell me that the American electorate has not devolved into a sports contest.

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  3. Stop 527 Groups? by ImaLamer · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Restricting 527 (non-profits) is bad for our "free" society.

    Sure, they can be propped up by corporations and even candidates - but removing yet another voice is wrong. Think about the ads you see without 527s. All you would see is RNC, DNC, Bush and Kerry ads. And that would get really confusing really quick. Both candidates lie about the positions of the other and play on American's ignorance.

    Remember, 527 status wasn't intended for Swift Boat Veterans or MoveOn. 527 status was intended to help out legitimate organizations that wanted to have a voice, while keeping them from contributing directly to candidates. It was supposed to encourage people to speak up instead of sending a check to their party.

    Imagine that you are a farmer. In theory you could get with a group of farmers and create a "527" and advertise without throwing your money in the candidates pocket. Why would you do that? Because your position may not even be on their radar. Sure, you may side with [NAME] but are they really listening? Once you get your voice heard then people start to ask questions and your issue becomes important. Case in point: Swift Boat Veterans for Truth/Lying. To many of us (hopefully most of us) it didn't matter, but to them it did (we hope, again). Their screams were so loud that this became the topic of talks for weeks.

    Think of 527 groups as those third party candidates that don't have a chance. If they don't run, many of those issues go un-addressed. Remember, not everyone can challenge the President and not everyone is a reporter. Sometimes the rest of us need a voice too.

    To get rid of 527 groups would mean that we would rely on "journalists" when it comes to bringing up the issues we care about. How good are they at doing that now? With 527 groups, slashdotters could form a non-profit and actually take out ads. Without them, we'd have to rely on our inadequte two party system.

  4. Re:lighten up! by rhild · · Score: 4, Insightful

    "Life does not cease to be funny when people die any more than it ceases to be serious when people laugh." - George Bernard Shaw

  5. I actually respect him more now by Quarters · · Score: 1, Insightful
    It's nice to know he doesn't waste his time being sucked down into the brain numbing, wallet emptying, taxpayer raping, felon creating crap that is professional sports.

    I'd much rather have a President that uses his time for personal and intellectual diversions rather than one that chokes on a pretzel while watching some mass-market crap aired on that most Republican of channels, Fox.

  6. Re:Luckily, people don't seem to pay attention by Johnny+Mnemonic · · Score: 2, Insightful


    There's a problem with that, and it's called the First Amendment. While I believe that financial contributions are not the equivalent of speech, and can therefore be regulated, I do think that speech equals speech. Stopping the free and unregulated voicing of support is extremely problematic.

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  7. Re:Luckily, people don't seem to pay attention by b-baggins · · Score: 4, Insightful

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    Which, of course, is why it was impossible for you to post the above anti-government message.

    Cognitive Dissonance. Say it slowly while looking in your mirror.

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  8. Re:Questionable origins of the "Eddie Yost" story by pudge · · Score: 4, Insightful

    First, jeez, lighten up. Anyone who would put this much thought into the actual truth of the story has some issues. It's a joke. Maybe it is true, maybe it is not, but either way, it's funny.

    Second, we know Kerry doesn't even the names of the two star hitters on the Red Sox, thinking they are one person. That's far worse than thinking Yost played for the Sox, even if it is not true.

    Third, you can't be serious about the forgeries. We know beyond any reasonable doubt that they are forgeries. Any criminal jury would have returned a quick verdict on this one. There is no open question remaining, except who did it. The only people saying they still believe they are authentic are Burkett and CBS: CBS' own experts, the secretary from the base, Killian's family and colleagues from the base, all say it is not real. If you put half the effort into investigating the memos as you have the Yost story, you would know they are forgeries.

    Fourth, of course the criticisms about Kerry are about what he says, because he hasn't done anything. Kerry himself rarely talks about what he has done (except in Vietnam), because there's nothing there of interest. Further, I don't know how you can consider what Bush has done in Iraq a substantive issue, but the fact that Kerry has completely reversed his position on Iraq is not (e.g., the invasion was "the right decision" in May 2003, but now it is "the wrong war in the wrong place at the wrong time"). How is this not substantive, when he might be taking over responsibility for the war, and we don't know where he stands on it?

    Fifth, there's nothing unpatriotic about having some fun and making jokes. You're humourless, and that is your problem, not ours.