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Xybernaut Patents Collar Computer

igargoyle writes "Wearable Computer manufacturer, Xybernaut, has encouraged the kludge that is the patent office by patenting collar based wearable computers. Besides being extremely vague, the whole thing sounds likes the Slashdot article, 'A Linux Machine For Your Collar.' There are many references to this idea, and computer collars have been used as nomadic radios and animal tracking devices before. Please help encourage this company to stop wasting taxpayer's money and encourage innovation instead of preventing it."

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  1. market-speak by Kz · · Score: 2, Insightful
    From the press-release:
    How to get the job done as efficiently as possible, regardless of the specific task at-hand, is an area in which Xybernaut has extremely deep knowledge and know-how. In fact, it is what we are all about

    What does this mean??? It can be summarized as 'We are good at doing jobs'.
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  2. Dont getcher panties in a bunch. by lottameez · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Don't know why anybody would be surprised. The patent system is absurd and the concept of obviousness is a concept the USPTO doesn't seem to grasp.

    Corporate counsels are recommending that their companies attempt to patent everything they can think of. Like it or not it makes good business sense if your company can afford to do it.

    Note that 60% (or so) of granted patents don't withstand serious challenges. Of course, they can still be used to threaten competitors.

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    1. Re:Dont getcher panties in a bunch. by N3Z · · Score: 2, Insightful

      obviousness is not clear until you put on your 20/20 hindsight goggles (patent pending).

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    2. Re:Dont getcher panties in a bunch. by fatman22 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Patent applications involve lawyers, patent disputes involve lawyers, patent enfocement involves lawyers, and patent legislation involves lawyers. See a pattern here? Think anything is going to change?

  3. The Patent Office Just Doesn't Get It by roly · · Score: 3, Insightful

    The U.S patent office just doesn't get it to do with hardware/software patents (i.e: allowing microsoft to patent sudo). The patent office needs a rethink of how they handle technology patents. Half the time, the patents are given out to companies/people who didn't come up with the idea, that just heared it somewhere else and got involved with it.

    They need a rethink. A major one.

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  4. Breakin' the law... breakin' the law by keefey · · Score: 1, Insightful

    So, if I wear my laptop bag over my shoulder, am I almost infringing this "patent"?

    These ridiculous patents not only make the patent offices look inane, but also somehow lessen the validity of genuine ones.

  5. stop the problem through good faith? ha! by abe+ferlman · · Score: 4, Insightful

    "Please help encourage this company to stop wasting taxpayer's money and encourage innovation instead of preventing it."

    This is like asking corporations to pay their fair share of taxes without passing a law that requires it. If there's one lesson in the success of capitalism as an economic system, it's that people are basically greedy and that what's not forbidden will be done and genrally accepted, even if it's not right.

    We need to curtail patents, not shame individual piecemeal patent holders. Get in touch with your legislators or spred the word through publicity stunts that patents are bad, but this sort of rear guard action helps no one.

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  6. Tired of the whining... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Every single time there is a patent story we get the masses biching and complaining about the patent system, yet EVERY SINGLE ONE OF YOU are too farking lazy to write letters to your senators, represenatives, president, governor, etc.. explaining the problem and how it is something bad.

    It's time, I'm calling all you asshat's out.

    Shit or get off the pot. I.E. if you do not write those letters, and become a patent reform supporter then you need to shut the hell up and be happy.

    If you are so lazy that you can not be bothered to get away from slashdot for 20 minutes towrite those letters or make those phone calls, then you are nothing but a waste of space and need to sut up.

  7. How are they wasting taxpayer's money? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    > stop wasting taxpayer's money

    Patent applications are not free. And neither are the patent maintenance fees (if the patent is issued).

    The USPTO collects so much in fees that the government takes some of the money collected by the USPTO and spends it elsewhere.

    Instead of complaining about companies voluntarily PAYING fees to our federal government, we should complain about HOW that money is spent--for example, complaining about the USPTO not being able to use all the collected fees to improve itself would be the smarter thing to do.

    If you read the patent laws and policies, you'd see that innovation isn't hurt, but actually helped by "correct" patents. The problem is with patents being granted that do not meet the legal requirements in the first place. But then, those scenarios can play out in court later on and the patent will get killed if it was undeserving of a grant.

  8. Put the blame where it belongs! by Anita+Coney · · Score: 4, Insightful

    You can blame a company who obtained an asinine patent for doing what is perfectly legal. If it doesn't do it, some other company would, and than that Xybernaut would be screwed.

    If you have a problem with what Xybernaut did then you should move to change the law. To expect corporations (and citizens) to follow laws which do not exist is as asinine as the patent that Xybernaut obtained.

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  9. Slavery by little1973 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    There are many slashdotters who think patents are needed because without them the little guy is screwed. However, there is a much more fundamental problem here. Patents basically prevents someone from using his own knowledge even if the knowledge came from someone else initally.

    Tell me, if preventing someone from using his own knowledge (it is his knowledge since it is in his mind) by force is not slavery then what is it?

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    1. Re:Slavery by Kiryat+Malachi · · Score: 2, Insightful

      You are talking out of your asscrack, and anyone who modded you up should be ashamed.

      Patents are *slavery*? Patents are designed to encourage sharing knowledge; without the limited license provided by a patent, people would just try to keep trade secrets. You aren't prevented from using your knowledge; use it all you want. But you may have to obtain a license from the patent-holder in order to obtain the legal right to make money off of their idea, even if you independently developed the knowledge, because the system is designed to promote the greater good, not your specific good.

      The problem with this patent is not with the patent system, it's with the patent. Patents are supposed to be on novel techniques used to accomplish something new; from the overview, there's no new technique, just the item to be accomplished (this is also why software patents are universally bad - they almost never include the new technique, even if there is one, because they aren't forced to include example source code).

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  10. Re:This is what patents are for. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    How is it clever?

    Is it the fact that its portable? Or the fact that its worn on the body? Or is putting a computer around a neck really clever?

    Could I get a patent for putting a bicycle wheel around my neck? How about a millstone?

    This isn't a patent, its somebody talking out of their ass.

  11. Re:What is a "War Fighter"? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    That's right, much in the same way that what used to be called an 'illegal occupation' is now called 'establishing democracy'.

  12. Re:Sigh... the patent office stuffs up again by lrichardson · · Score: 2, Insightful
    To paraphrase the one-time best (in terms of winning) lawyer in Canada:

    Trial by combat didn't end ... it just moved from the arena into the courtroom.

    Don't make the mistake of believing right will triumph. It helps a lot in the courtroom, but is no means a guarantee, by itself, of victory.
  13. It's not that bad by nameer · · Score: 2, Insightful
    I read the claims. This certainly seems patentable to me. It's not a computer in a collar, it's a computer that is a collar. The independent claims are 1, 11, 20, 22 so focus your attention there. The key bit seems to be the "moveably enclosed longitudinally...", which keys in on the display aspect of it. Nothing mentioned here on /. even comes close to prior art.

    Is it novel? Eh. I can't think of anything like what is described, but there are lots of things under the sun.

    Is it useful? Probably to someone.

    Is it non-obvious? Yeah, in the patent kind of way, because it specifically describes a method of developing a head mounted display that would have been developed by others multiple times over if it were obvious. Lots of people are working on head mounted displays, all of which specifically mount to the head. This mounts to a collar around the neck. I think it's a lame idea, but I also think it's a meaningful patent.

    RTFP!

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  14. It's a catch-all by schmaltz · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I read the patent, and to me it's a wide-ranging catch-all. A neck computer that's also a cellphone, or maybe it's a radio, possibly has a display, maybe you can listen to music on it.

    Hey! I know! Let's work all conceivable notions into the patent for what a neck computer could be, so if anybody else wants to make one, they gotta pay us.

    Patents like this make patenting seem like a racket.

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  15. Patents are bad by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Patents are bad?

    Why is China stepping up their IP laws and enforcement policies as we speak?

    Is it because they know that they have the world's best priced engineering talent pool and realize that it will never lead to a viable, self standing technology industry unless their weak IP protection is buttressed?

    The people that think patents are bad are not the same people that bootstrap innovation by putting the rubber to the road and funding a research based concern.