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Yellow Dog Linux v4.0 Released
worm eater writes "On September 29, Terra Soft Solutions delivered the final release of Yellow Dog Linux v4.0 to their CD manufacturer. It is currently available for download by ydl.net subscribers. Yellow Dog Linux v4.0 is built upon Fedora Core 2, offering both KDE 3.3 and GNOME 2.6.0 desktops with an all new presentation for both the Installer and post-installed desktop environment. Expanded USB support includes many cameras, printers, adapters, and storage devices. FireWire support is now built-in with bootable FireWire made possible through manual configuration. Mac-On-Linux offers the ability to run Mac OS 9 and Mac OS X and now offers automatic network configuration."
Hmmm... Yellow dog linux, the distro for computers named after a red fruit.
What we really need is a ten day waiting period and a background check before you can buy a congressman.
Hmmm, for some reason I have the feeling there is some sort of corelation between the naming of "Red Hat" and "Yellow Dog" ...
- Leon Mergen
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It doesn't seem to make breakfast...
:(
nor walk the dog, nor feed the cat.
I suppose we'll have to wait for the next version.
Less look fast, more go fast.
My mac-user friend was using Yellow Dog >4 years ago....
That's not exactly "new".
Less look fast, more go fast.
Although it's nice to have the low-cost choice...it's never too much trouble to configure OS X to run almost any Linux program out there.
If it was at osnews would you have seen it? I know I at least check /. alot more than osnews.
It should be noted that Mac-on-Linux still doesn't run on i386 hardware - so if your goal is to run OS X or some other OS made for PPC, most users will be out of luck.
BeauHD. Worst editor since kdawson.
Till someone does something about the Airport Extreme problem, Linux is worthless on the new Powerbooks. (And I know it's BoardCom who isn't cooperating)
First of all, it's nice that there are now a lot of distributions catering to different needs from which to choose from.
There's mandrake (yes mandrake ppc is still active), yellow dog, ubuntu, crux, debian, gentoo.
And to all those complaining about linux on ppc:
1. Nobody forces you to use it.
2. Believe it or not, but some people don't think OSX is their favorite OS.
3. Linux offers way more choice then OSX.
4. There are other ppc computers then just Apples.
5. It may not be a weired idea to use linux on a server and there are servers with ppc.
http://www.scribus.org.uk/
Commercial support.
Mother is the best bet and don't let Satan draw you too fast.
Did you just suggest that the Linux section of Slashdot is not the place to talk about a Linux release? Certainly that can't be! ;)
I think he was trying to suggest that it wasn't really worthy of the front page.
Toshiba. Good line of laptops, with support for pretty much everything bar their proprietary SD card readers. Even 3D with Nvidia (proprietary, yes, closed source, yes, working ... yes).
"The dew has clearly fallen with a particularly sickening thud this morning"
Does anyone know of any equivalent to MOL that runs on OS X? I would like to be able to run beta releases of OS X, old versions of MacOS (for games) and various UNIX distributions (which I often need to write about) on my PowerBook without rebooting or resorting to VirtualPC (which, as of version 6, didn't boot Fedora Core 2. I don't know if version 7 does).
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YDL 3 and 4 didn't ship with a usable Java distribution, but IBM offers a great 1.4.2 version one here: https://www6.software.ibm.com/dl/lxdk/lxdk-p.
This is going to start another of those "But why leave the beautiful Mac OS X for Linux" flame wars, isn't it?
Thank God that is, I just happened to have tons of fresh pop corn near by, and nothing interest to watch. This will do nicely.
I don't get the impression from reading Terrasoft's site that this is the last release of Yellow Dog, but reading that article text certainly gave off the impression. Might want to edit that a bit. "Final master for YDL 4.0" perhaps?
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(Insert rant about people needing to support Mac developers because the market is so tiny in the space below.)
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I got through the YDL website and just found out that : Yellow Dog Linux v4.0 offers 32-bit support for USB-G3s, G4s, G5 Power Macs. If I decided to buy a G5, I would expect it to work in 64-bit mode, not just in 32-bit mode. Some kind of strange since the G5 64-bit instruction set seems to be working with Linux. I found at IBM DevelopperWorks how to set up a 64-bit mode (Y-HPC Kernel), but it still seems to be beta...
Would it not be easier in that case for the government to dissolve the people and elect another? - Bertold Brecht
I just want to point out how lucky Yellow Dog other distros based on RedHat are... It's only possible because RedHat gies ALL its source code under the GPL, and then the other distros can modify it for their special needs.
I wonder why there are so few SUSE-based distros out there... Maybe because the're not playing as fairly and keeping key components of their OS locked as proprietary so that others can't copy or build on them.
I have started yellowdoglinux.org to create a forum for yellowdog users. Right now it is simply a forum, but there will be future expansion. I would like to invite novice and experienced linux users to join.
http://yellowdoglinux.org/forum
So... where is it?
First, the old Pegasos 1 (which that usenet post mentioned) is long discontinued. The parent post to yours was talking about the successor, Peg2.
Second, you might wanna let people see that post in context, including the responses to the post. Perhaps a separate link to the following retraction and apology for some of the false accusations against Genesi would be in order as well.
And do we slashdotters really need to be reminded of that Theo "The rat" De Raadt is an absofuckinglutely raving lunatic?
A) What performance increases am I likely to see running YDL (real numbers, not "OMFG it is liek teh fastest")?
B) Never having used Mac-on-Linux, would I really be able to squeeze YDL and MOL onto my measely 20 Gig drive? I currently only have a couple gigs left, but that is mainly due to installing fink and darwinports to get linux functionality. What is the performance of MOL? Better than VPC performance I would hope (since there is no endian conversion).
I'm just a little leary of wiping my iBook, which is my primary machine, to install YDL if I'm not going to see a significant performance gain and cannot reasonably run my Mac apps when I need to.
-truth
I had a steady B+ in my AI class until I failed the Turing test...
The changelog of recent Mac-On-Linux releases show that the developer is moving toward a release that will build and run on both Linux and OS X. The latest development snapshot compiles cleanly on 10.3, but fails to run (perhaps it's just my inexperience that prevents it from running). I've seen reports in the Mac-On-Linux mailing lists that other users have gotten Mac OS 9.1 to run in MOL on OS X 10.2.
Actually, that's not so true any longer; vrs 4 does not support pre-USB macs. If you want to run YDL on a beige G3 (or older model) you'll have to snatch up the last copies of vrs 3.x, while they last.
RTFM; please, I beg you.
The Linux Incompatibility List would benefit from the addition of specific makes and models, although do describe the incompatibility accurately so that people don't think that the hardware is completely incompatible with Linux, when it is really only one portion of it that does not make the hardware useless.
Thanks!
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Is there any Linux OS that is less than 10 Mb ,and can be run from CD without installing?
,i dont want knoppix.It may be good, but I simply cant download 700 MB image file on dialup.
No
So any options?
Oh yeah iam a windows user.wanting to try linux.or perhaps a new OS.
Did you just suggest that the Linux section of Slashdot is not the place to talk about a Linux release? Certainly that can't be! ;)
It should be obvious that Slashdot is not an appropriate forum for such discussions. After all, there's absolutely no mention of Bush, Iraq, WMDs or Kerry in either the summary *or* the article text!
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I am not a software developer or computer scientist, just a theoretical physicist. I am an old VMS and UNIX user (I am 52); I've always found graphical based OSes such as Windows and MacOS mysterious and hard to use. I am an early Linux adopter, I started using it in 1993 and I am familiar with it. Mac OSX maybe UNIX but it is sort of strange: the filesystem is unusual, HFS+ is case insensitive, I miss the /proc filesystem from linux, Aqua is not X Windows, etc, etc, the list goes on and on. I've been using MacOSX and Darwin for 4 years, I read a few books about them and I am still not familiar with them.
By the way I miss VMS, that is a great operating system, as good as UNIX or Linux, maybe even better. I wish I could run it on a laptop. Is this possible?
You can try and get SheepShaver working, but I haven't been very successful. OS X isn't supported, though.
Have you had any success with using a USB wireless dongle under Linux?
... for me, getting it to work at all took quite a bit of googling, cursing, and trusting directions (conditionally) until I found a combination of driver and settings that worked. But when I upgraded a few months later to a different version of Knoppix, figuring the pain would be less the 2nd time around, I never could get that to work again. (And the Belkin is one of the few USB dongles that's reputed to work well with Linux. I know it *can* work, since I witnessed it, but the frustration isn't worth it IMO.)
I briefly had a (chunky, ugly, but so what) Belkin one working with a hard-drive installed Knoppix system (3.1? 3.2?)
Have you by chance encountered a USB dongle natively (and without tweaking) supported by Yellow Dog, or any other Linux distro? If so, which one?
timothy
jrnl: http://tinyurl.com/c2l8yr / foes: http://tinyurl.com/ckjno5
(1) You can run YDL without a GUI so there are more CPU cycles for your app.s html?tid=137
(2) For some applications PPC has a non-trivial computational advantage over x86, i.e. computation is a good match for Altivec.
For an example the US Navy's imaging equipment http://apple.slashdot.org/apple/03/08/07/1258203.