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Play Console Games With a Keyboard and Mouse

HunterX writes "Lik Sang took the videogame community by storm this weekend by announcing a new entry in its product catalog. The SmartJoy FRAG is an adapter that allows Xbox and PlayStation 2 owners to connect a mouse and a keyboard to the console and replace the standard controller with the well known PC combo that has been the envy of many console gamers for years. TeamXbox.com has more on the story, and there is plenty of commentary on Lik Sang's Forums."

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  1. Unfair Live Advantage by DreadPiratePizz · · Score: 3, Insightful

    This is going to ruin games such as Halo 2 on Xbox live.

    1. Re:Unfair Live Advantage by Glytch · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Why? Just because some people insist on crippling themselves with joysticks in an FPS, I should have to suffer?

      The entire reason I don't play console FPS games is because of that braindead, ridiculous, two-little-joysticks-and-a-couple-of-buttons control setup. Now I might actually bother to play Halo and all those others. And I know for damn sure that there's lots of people like me out there.

  2. Hasn't this been done sorta? by Joe+the+Lesser · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I'm pretty sure that the PS2 already has a keyboard adapter, because how then else would PS2 FFXI players type to me? :)

    Still, this is probably a bit better than what they thought up, specially if the mouse is new.

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    1. Re:Hasn't this been done sorta? by CoreyGH · · Score: 2, Informative

      Not really the same thing. What this adapter does is take keyboard and mouse inputs and translates them into controler outputs. As far as the console is concerned, it's just another regular controller. You wouldn't be able to use the keyboard to type messages in FFXI if it was attached with this adaptor.

    2. Re:Hasn't this been done sorta? by antifoidulus · · Score: 2, Interesting

      One of the more interesting things I saw in a video game store in Japan was a ps2 controller/keyboard combo. It had the layout of a normal ps2 controller, only slightly wider and a bit longer. But instead of the gap in the center of the controller, there was a qwerty keyboard with tiny keys. Interesting, but it really wasn't worth it to me, since I didn't lug my ps2 along for the trip, and I really don't like online gaming.

  3. Not the first time this has been done... by Grey+Ninja · · Score: 3, Interesting

    But this is one of the stupidest.

    My problem is that the Xbox has PC hardware running it, has a PC operating system, and now has the standard PC input device. The way I see it, if you are willing to put out about $500, you can have a working PC made out of your Xbox. Whoop de doo.

    Honestly, I think if you are playing console games with a mouse and keyboard, it's probably time to buy a PC.

    1. Re:Not the first time this has been done... by gl4ss · · Score: 4, Insightful

      **Honestly, I think if you are playing console games with a mouse and keyboard, it's probably time to buy a PC.**

      why? if you think keyboard+mouse are the best way to play some type of games, why not use keyboard and mouse? what difference does it make if the thing running the game is a "console" or a "desktop computer"?

      if console pads would kick so much ass for playing first person games pc gamers would buy them for usage on pc..

      (of course it would be pointless if you could play the games on your pc - which you can't in some cases. sure you could just not play them but thats beyond the point..)

      besides, these converters cost around 30 bucks, not 500...

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    2. Re:Not the first time this has been done... by ravidew · · Score: 2, Interesting
      Honestly, I think if you are playing console games with a mouse and keyboard, it's probably time to buy a PC.
      Why?

      You're forgetting that consoles have the benefit of hit-the-power-switch-and-play; you'll never have to worry about having the latest video card that's compatible with DirectX 9.72r3-beta. At least in theory.

      For that matter, if you're paying the $200-something for a console, why shouldn't you use it in a manner that's easiest for you? Once accustomed to the mouse and keyboard combination of a PC, I never felt as comfortable using a console controller. I find that the mouse in a M/K combo provides much more control because it uses a fast "linear" controlling mechanism: you move your mouse 1cm, the crosshairs move an inch - and you can achieve this quickly. On a console controller, however, you have to account for acceleration/deceleration as you push and release the thumbsticks; it's much harder to become as accurate a shot, and you'll never be able to track as quickly.

      To those who think the advantage is unfair: so is using a faster PC, or a better internet connection, or a larger TV, or 14 cans of Red Bull...
  4. Stupid peripheral bastards. by hollismb · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I hate this. Way to try to un-level the playing field you bastards. Fortunately, I think that most people both won't know about this, and won't bother to pick one up because you can't just grab it at the store, like you could with the Dreamcast, for example. I also have the feeling that this will totally suck for those who try to use it anyway. It's not as if the games are programmed to handle the precision movement of a mouse, so it'll probably end up being somewhat awkward. Fortunately, I don't know anyone on Xbox Live that would even care about using a KB/M, seeing as most console-FPS gamers actually prefer using a controller anyway, or at the very least have gotten used to it. If not, they'd probably be playing them on the PC. I can see the usual Live A-holes doing this because they care so much about stats, but the average population, probably not.

    1. Re:Stupid peripheral bastards. by vasqzr · · Score: 3, Funny


      Anyone remember back in the days of Doom, 'mousers' versus 'keyboarders'?

      Google Groups Thread

      Now you'll just see people arguing joystick vs keyboard/mouse

    2. Re:Stupid peripheral bastards. by putch · · Score: 2, Funny

      don't know anyone on Xbox Live that would even care about using a KB/M, seeing as most console-FPS gamers actually prefer using a controller anyway, or at the very least have gotten used to it.

      we'll see if they'll get used to being headshot repeatedly at their spawn.

      people who prefer dual analog to kb/m deserve no mercy.

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  5. About bloody time! by Lord_Pain · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The lack of mouse/keyboard support has been the only reason why I would not give FPS on consoles the time of day. I was brutally tramatized by Halo's control scheme. Game pads do not cut it for me...

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  6. I welcome this. by EvilAardvark · · Score: 5, Insightful
    I am primarily a PC gamer, but I do play action titles on my xbox and I definitely welcome this. The FPS controls on the xbox have always seemed awkward and clumsy to me. And of course this will tip the performance balance in favor of those who use this new adapter in online matches. However, I don't believe it will be as serious as some are saying. Unlike a PC console games typically have fairly forgiving hit detection so accuracy isn't quite as important.

    Anyway, that's just my two cents.

  7. This will transform console FPSs by GreatDrok · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I had pretty much given up on FPSs for my PS2 in favour of using my Windows PC. However, the PC is aging now and the cost of upgrading it is worrying me but the latest games are really starting to crawl. I can just about play Doom 3 on the thing but have to have the graphics are the lowest res and with all the nice effects turned off just to get a decent frame rate. The advantage of games on the PS2 or XBox is that you know the game will run well on the hardware. With the ability to use a keyboard and mouse I think this will give FPSs a much better shot (slight pun). I expect I will even go back to a number of games I gave up on because I just couldn't stand the joypad having got used to the keyboard and mouse.

    For some games the joypad is great, I found GTAIII on the PS2 much better with a joypad than the same game on the PC with keyboard and mouse (and no way to map a joypad on the PC to match the PS2 which is doubly annoying). Best tool for the job and the keyboard and mouse is better for FPSs. The annoying bit is the PS2 has USB ports already and some games support a keyboard and mouse through those but really, all games should have the option. This is a hack but if it works gimme gimme gimme!

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  8. Screw that! by Sean+Johnson · · Score: 4, Funny

    I want to be able to hook up an original Atari joystick. That would be weird just to try out.
    Or better yet those paddle thingamagigs. Imagine the possibilties!

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    1. Re:Screw that! by Firehawke · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Here you go!

  9. Xbox Communicator? by redune45 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    The adaptor doesn't seem to have the port on it that the Xbox communicator plugs into.
    This will make it much more annoying to make use of this thing online. Though I think that is a good thing, I get rocked bad enough online as is, if I were up against guys with superior controllers I would be murdered.

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  10. Thank god by sahonen · · Score: 3, Funny

    The number one complaint I have whenever I'm playing a console game is having to deal with the clunky console controllers. Nothing will ever beat the flexibility and fluid control of a keyboard and mouse combo for me.

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  11. Re:XBox Live Bots? by Glytch · · Score: 4, Insightful

    If you can write a program that an average PC is fast enough to run that can do real-time video analysis, then you not only deserve to win the game, but you'd deserve a Nobel prize.