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XPrize Founders Launch Tech Innovation Competition

metlin writes "The organizers of the Ansari X-Prize have launched the equivalent of the X-Prize in a variety of technology areas, called the WTN X-Prizes. The idea is to have a series of prizes for important technology challenges facing humanity in the 21st century, which will be judged by the World Technology Network. The website mentions that, 'The concept of the WTN X PRIZES is to utilize the concepts, procedures, technologies and publicity developed X PRIZE Foundation's Ansari X PRIZE competition for space and the global science and technology innovators identification process and community developed by the World Technology Network (WTN) to launch a series of technology prizes seeking to meet the greatest challenges facing humanity in the 21st century.' Sounds like a good idea, maybe this will help make that flying car a reality?"

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  1. Re:crappy article by Sqwubbsy · · Score: 3, Informative

    Actually, if you follow the link, there's a space where you can suggest what the prizes should be for.

  2. Re:crappy article by 91degrees · · Score: 5, Informative
    From the "Click for more information" link:

    Here is a very rough and incomplete list of the sorts of challenges that might be appropriate:

    • Medical challenges, such a cure for cancer or other major diseases.
    • Technological "holy grails", such as artificial intelligence, teleportation, molecular assemblers (true nanotechnology), cold fusion, or a believable virtual reality system
    • Major global challenges, such as the various UN Millennium Development Goals (MDGs) announced by the world's leaders at the UN in 2000 at the Millennium Summit.
  3. Idea for important technological innovation by Denver_G · · Score: 5, Funny

    Can they make one of the 1st prizes some of the X-ray specs so I can see through womens clothing! (Yes, it must have a gender filter)

    1. Re:Idea for important technological innovation by Patrik_AKA_RedX · · Score: 2, Funny

      How about an on-off-switch?

  4. Cool by ender1598 · · Score: 5, Funny

    Instead of fusion power constantly being 10 years in the future, it'll now be stuck at 5!

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    1. Re:Cool by someme2 · · Score: 2, Funny
      Instead of fusion power constantly being 10 years in the future, it'll now be stuck at 5!
      There are 10 kinds of people in the world; those that understand binary and those that do not.

      Why does the new X price delay the advent of fusion power by three years?
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  5. Important technology challenges by Advocadus+Diaboli · · Score: 5, Funny

    like e.g. making Microsoft Windows secure? :-)

    SCNR

    1. Re:Important technology challenges by Capt'n+Hector · · Score: 5, Insightful

      it's as simple as unplugging the ethernet cable and using a Linux or OS X box to surf.

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    2. Re:Important technology challenges by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      You understand that in Slashdot (i.e. Bizarro World) you will be modded Troll/Flamebait for daring to unplug yourself from the Matrix right?

  6. Zooming out by n54 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I'm getting a bit worried that the X-Prize people have lost focus. Better to do one thing right at the time as they have with the Ansari X-Prize.

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    1. Re:Zooming out by dnnrly · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Since the X-Prize has been won now, they technically don't have any focus any more. But I do agree that they shouldn't let their new challenges get too confused. It could easily go 1 of 2 ways now, losing focus, letting the differences between challenges blur and being ignored as they wrestle with internal management and resource issues OR effectively splitting the new challenges up and providing clear and acheivable goals that will inspire people to going out there and win.

      In my ill considered and completely unprofessional opinion, they should have different fields such as green automotive, green air transport, automated land transport etc. and each field have no more that 1 or 2 challenges such as "first to do X" and "the highest/biggest/best Y by date Z".

    2. Re:Zooming out by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Considering that the X-Prize was one at a loss of 2-3 times the winnings...

      No it wasn't.

      Allen will make back MORE than his original investment with the prize money plus the Virgin Galactic deal, PLUS there are other groups queueing up to license the tech. It's starting to look like a pretty smart investment.

  7. Whats the deal with flying cars? by ActionJesus · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Seriously... why is having flying cars lauded as "the next big thing" all the time? There are several things that would make travel easier and cheaper, such as electric or hydrogen powered cars. Or, even at the less techinical side of things, an effective public transport system. Also nicer to the environment.

    Also, think of the mess you get when theres a car crash on a motorway. Now multiply that by 40 times - thats the mess you get when flying cards run out of fuel and plough into regular traffic.

    Instead of worrying about flying cars, lets just try and make the cars we DO have less of a hassle.

    1. Re:Whats the deal with flying cars? by tom17 · · Score: 3, Funny
      cant see one of these doing much damage in a crash....

      Flying card

    2. Re:Whats the deal with flying cars? by sapped · · Score: 2, Informative

      If you have flying cars you no longer need to build roads.

  8. Do we really need prizes for this stuff? by CosmeticLobotamy · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Are we afraid the guy who invents the usable flying car won't be able to sell any? Is there someone with an AI sitting around saying, "If only I could figure out how to make some cash off this?"

    The prize for the space travel thing was incentive to do it cheaply, wasn't it? That doesn't work when the hard part is doing it at all.

    That said, it's still pretty cool.

    1. Re:Do we really need prizes for this stuff? by squaretorus · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Theres one thing to have an idea, to have the motivation, to have the ingenuity and the focus. It's quite another to have the money and time to actually DO anything about it.

      Finding a funder can be a bitch - prizes like this mean that the funder has a second bet on - firstly they are betting the flying car will make money - second they are betting that the prize itself will give them some additional publicity.

      Imagine HP spending a few million on an Xprize entry for... well... anything. Thats a fraction of an advertising budget. They will sink the money more quickly based on a prize timescale and the reduced 'risk'.

      At least I _think_ thats the theory of this kind of prize.

    2. Re:Do we really need prizes for this stuff? by Atzanteol · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I think the prize is more psychological than anything else. It's not so much about the money (AFAIK the X-Prize didn't cover the cost of building/flying SpaceShipOne).

      It's the *challenge* that matters. I say "I bet $500,000 that nobody can build a flying car" and it gets attention. Now there will be people out there to prove me wrong. Like the space race between the USA and USSR. And there wasn't even a prize! Just the competition and the challenge.

      That's what the X-prize does. Creates a challenge, and competition. We humans operate best in that environment.

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  9. Prize for Fuel Cells? by antivoid · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I feel someone should offer a nice prize for creating an efficient and clean way of producing hydrogen for fuel cell technology. Fuel cells already exist, but the cost, pollution and work involved in producing the hyrdogen required to run a fuel cell is prohibitive. If cheap and clean hydrogen production was achieved, we would be able to stop burning fossil fuels, the world would be a cleaner place, and stuff like flying cars could very well become a reality due to the sheer amount of power fuel cells can produce.

    1. Re:Prize for Fuel Cells? by mprinkey · · Score: 2, Informative

      The problem with hydrogen is *not* producing it. Electrolysis is easily accomplish. People have been genetically engineering algae to produce hydrogen gas directly from sunlight. We can gasify coal or other hydrocarbons, bleed off and sequester the CO2 to get H2 pretty efficiently.

      The problem with hydrogen is storing it and transporting it safely. There is no good solution for this. The concept of using hydrogen as a bulk fuel is a complete non-starter until this problem is solved. With current approaches, either the pressure is too high, the temperature is too cold, or the energy density is too low. It leaks very easily, so it is difficult to store for extended periods of time. And recent studies seem to indicate that the environmental impact from significant H2 leakage could be worse than CO2 emissions.

  10. Flying car? by Hittite+Creosote · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I'd hope they come up with real 21st century ideas, rather than rehashing old 20th century ones. Besides, what's the point of being able to fly to work when you still can't find anywhere to park? Anyway, the real problem isn't making a cheap flying machine as much as making it safe for the average person to control it - so what they'd really need are AI pilots, rather than flying cars.

  11. Oil? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I just hope one of the prizes is for a technology to help us kick our oil addiction... Peak Oil is coming people!

  12. A bit off-topic but... by DeepDarkSky · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Flying cars sound really great, but quite frankly, I think it's a waste. Unless it offers considerable advantage, it would never take-off (pun intended). By considerable advantage, I mean it can get to places a lot faster or uses less fuel or something. I can see the use of them, but not on a large scale basis. Flying cars will obviously use consierably more fuel than regular cars and other ground transports. For other purposes, there's the airplane, which has been economized and travels much faster.

    The flying car, then, I think will end up being like helicopters - but perhaps slightly more common. Wealthy people will have them and for emergency purposes (organ transplants, etc.), but other than that, I don't see flying cars as truly useful. In the U.S., we already consume so much energy driving, etc., do we really just need more ways to consumer energy faster?

    (Granted, if we all had this attitude, we would have had the technology advances we've had up to know, airplanes and all, but current energy usage trends are quite alarming).

    1. Re:A bit off-topic but... by aXis100 · · Score: 2, Funny

      [sarcasm] Yeah, but does it fly? [/sarcasm]

    2. Re:A bit off-topic but... by BasilBrush · · Score: 2, Interesting
      From a century ago: Flying aeroplanes will obviously use considerably more fuel than regular cruise liners and other sea transports.

      A flying car occupies an area of usefulness between a car and an aeroplane. For example, I happen to live on a island 10 miles off the French coast. If I want to go to France, I have to book a ticket on a plane, go to the airport according to a schedule. Wait 45 minutes mandatory checkin time, fly to another island, wait for the connection, fly to the one single French airport that is served, then rent a car to get to my final destination 10 miles away. Alternatively, I can take a boat trip, but the ferry only runs in the summer months, once pre day, and once per week in winter. And then I still need to rent a car to get to my final destination. I could buy a two seater aeroplane or a helicopter, but they are prohibitively expensive, and difficult to learn. The concept of a flying car is that it is affordable for the reasonably average person, they are not significantly more difficult to drive than a road car and they don't require an airport at either end of the journey.

      It's a very hard nut to crack, but then so is space travel, and that's what the original X-Prize was intended and succeeded to encourage. And with commercial space travel, they didn't start by offering the prize for the first passenger trip to the moon. They started with something more achievable.

      There has to be a suitable challenge that is further along the way towards personal flying transport than we are now, but maybe isn't a practical flying car for the masses. I know there are companies that are already doing prototypes in this area, so the prize needs to be set some useful distance beyond where they are now.

  13. Innovations are nice, but . . . by Gabrill · · Score: 4, Insightful
    We already have lots of innovation in raw technology. The problem is that they're not economically feasable. The next prizes should be given to the company (or individual) who brings a next generation technology to the masses.

    A true highway autopilot in a sub $30k car

    Safe fog and rain navigation for the same car

    Economic and RELIABLE robotic assembly lines

    Stuff like that.

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  14. what I want to know is... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    The concept of the WTN X PRIZES is to utilize the concepts, procedures, technologies and publicity developed X PRIZE Foundation's Ansari X PRIZE competition for space and the global science and technology innovators identification process and community developed by the World Technology Network (WTN) to launch a series of technology prizes seeking to meet the greatest challenges facing humanity in the 21st century.

    What will the prize be for a foolproof way of teaching writing skills?

  15. Potable water by Rxke · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Cheap ways to purify water etc.
    The much-talked about global water-crisis in the making needs some attention.

    Crazy ideas aplenty: Thinking of Dune: the big 'stills, that take moisture out of the air and cool it, so it condenses, comes to mind. But something like that would be possible to build with simple stuff... In 'underdeveloped' nations...

  16. Where's the opposite prize? by thrill12 · · Score: 5, Funny
    Wherever a prize was awarded, anti-prizes where tought of: the golden raspberry(anti-Oscar), ig-nobel prize('anti'-NobelPrize), etc.

    Where is this "Anti X-prize" then ?
    My personal idea for the contents for such a prize would be:

    Prize for the craft that crashes most spectacular (without people, duh)

    Prize for the most useless invention on (name your territory here)

    Prize for the worst overshoot of a set target (wanted to the moon, went to Mars)
    Any more ?

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  17. Re:crappy article by BasilBrush · · Score: 3, Funny
    'The concept of the WTN X PRIZES is to utilize the concepts, procedures, technologies and publicity developed X PRIZE Foundation's Ansari X PRIZE competition for space and the global science and technology innovators identification process and community developed by the World Technology Network (WTN) to launch a series of technology prizes seeking to meet the greatest challenges facing humanity in the 21st century.'

    A prize for software that takes overly long and unweildy sentances, and converts them to plain English.

  18. Ethanol or biodiesel by spineboy · · Score: 2, Insightful

    offer the prize for making a working ethanol (or bio diesel)production plant that has a lower cost of energy than say a 30 dollar barrel of crude oil. As far as fuel cells go, I guess adding fuel cell tech to efficiently use ethanol, would be useful.

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  19. Because what this world needs is.... by zarthrag · · Score: 2, Interesting

    ...The NEW Cadillac Escalade Flyin' SUV! With motorized "spinner" rims that spin even when you're flyin!

    Gimme a friggin break! The X Prize was cool and all, but that's not quite effective for everything, only encouraging lower costs. If you wanna help the world by offering a prize, try these:

    1. Energy Efficient homes. The car is a good start, but the american home could stand to be improved. How about homes that produce more energy than they consume?

    2. Space Resource gathering/production. This is what the X prize should work toward IMO. The nearest asteroid is worth (I think) ~3 trillion. Now that's smart resources!

    3. Energy production. Solar energy "farms", in space!

    4. Energy transport. Friendly/safe synthetic fuels or batteries are a must.

    For most of these 10M may not cut it. But I'd like to see some kinda push.

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  20. How about feeding the entire World? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    ... sure it isn't as "cool" but is the greatest problem facing humanity.

  21. Alternative Energy Sources by BlueMonk · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I think the biggest challenge facing humanity right now is energy. I don't know if everyone realizes how many of the world's problems are based on energy consumption and how much better off we would be with some alternative energy source that is safe, clean, cheap and plentiful. Surely we've put our minds to it before, and maybe it's futile to hope for such a miracle, but maybe it's time to try again. Any hope of finally getting that cold fusion to work? :) Or maybe some combination of high yield solar panels with efficient storage cells.

    Imagine -- forget mideast oil and all their conflicts; forget pollution -- most of it comes from our current, primary energy sources; forget nuclear waste disposal (after we're done with what we've already got to deal with); and if the energy source is reasonably self-contained / localized (like solar panels on the house), forget transmission problems and dangers. If I had to pay double taxes for 2 years to get this worked out, I'd be all for it!

    1. Re:Alternative Energy Sources by n54 · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I agree, even starvation (which another poster mentioned) can often (in part) be attributed to lack of energy, for example local overuse of wood contributing to drought or desertification.

      Still, research into energy sources probably wont get much help from prizes given out afterwards: either they're already funded by governments or (usually oil) companies, or they lack enough present funding like this interesting fusion project: http://www.focusfusion.org/home.html - disregard the horrible site design, and if there's a VC out there why not have a closer look? If it's successful you'll make Paul Allen green with envy ;)

      Such projects or other more established ones might benefit a lot more from "fasttracking" than a prize by getting more funds and brainpower. Then again with all the research going on it might not help at all: do we want to try a broad approach or hedge our bets on a few? Choosing is very hard. Most governments in America, Europe, Asia and Oceania are giving pretty big incentives for energy research as it is. Some big examples are the US hydrogen focus, Chinas pebble reactors (the South African Republic is also looking at this, so Africa is in too), and the Australian solar tower (european technology), and there are lots and lots of smaller projects almost everywhere.

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  22. WTN X-Prizes by ironman_one · · Score: 2, Funny

    1. Robots and AI
    Robot players beats human world championchip masters in a standard soccer match.

    2. Space
    2.1 - Race around the mon.
    2.2 - Land on the moon.
    2.3 - Bring back one kilogram of moon material
    2.3 - Land on mars.

    3. Medicine
    Neural computer interface(say matrix)

    4. Energy
    Superconducting powerline over 100km

    5. Transportation
    Antigravity

  23. One option by Augoeides · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I believe one very good place to start off would be IT development in the poorest of the poor countries (which is one of the UN's goals for the millenium). The reason is that, as others pointed out, the X Prizes work best when used to increase incentive for things we already know how to do. This could improve the lives of people living in these countries AND make us, as a species, better able to know what we know.

  24. How about an X-Prize for writing? by Airwall · · Score: 2, Funny

    The concept of the WTN X PRIZES is to utilize the concepts, procedures, technologies and publicity developed X PRIZE Foundation's Ansari X PRIZE competition for space and the global science and technology innovators identification process and community developed by the World Technology Network (WTN) to launch a series of technology prizes seeking to meet the greatest challenges facing humanity in the 21st century.

    Man, what a complete trainwreck of a sentence.

  25. solar power by bob_avernus · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Solar panels are still pretty expensive, so why not have a prize for an efficient process for making solar panels?

  26. Advances? by builderbob_nz · · Score: 3, Insightful

    maybe this will help make that flying car a reality?

    Oh God I hope not. It is bad enough now with drivers not watching what they are doing in two dimensions and now you want to add a third!? The day that they let the average Joe Blogs drive a flying car is the day I give up driving and to back to walking/cycling/public transport - I'll live longer!

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  27. Kevin Rice's list of tech innovations needed by justanyone · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I've been thinking about this for a long time.
    Here's my list:

    1. Medical technique (drug/etc.) to stimulate regrowth of tissue, as various lizards do. Lose an arm? Regrow it. this would have to take into account the replacement of scar tissue with healthy new tissue. Important in this are skin, nerve, and heart tissues.
    2. Replacement teeth. Along the same lines as tissue regrowth for the gums, replacement teeth would have similar properties to existing teeth but be permanently implanted. We have this for hips, knees, etc., why not for teeth?
    3. Technique to artificially stimulate (nuclear) Beta decay. This would allow us to reduce radioactivity immediately in radioactive materials.
    4. Method/device to increase, decrease (even to become negative) the force of gravity acting on an object. This would NOT include any mechanical device; I'm talking about a gravitational FIELD force here.
    5. 3 dimensional display as a transparent globe that we look into to view projected images. This would allow 3-D viewing, and would vastly assist all manner of medical and engineering processes.
    6. Caller-id. Oh, sorry, we have that.
    7. Recognition in the social sciences realm that peace studies deserves more research and development, allowing disparate, traditionally hateful relationships between ethic/religious/etc. groups morph into peaceful coexistence, without resorting to genocide of one or the other groups.
    8. Airborne refuelling using liquid oxygen instead of jet fuel.
    9. Ramjet or scramjet jet engines that can go from 100% atmospheric oxygen variably to 100% onboard oxygen, burning kerosene.
    10. Same suppemental oxygen engines that are rated for very high mach numbers in rarified air.
    11. Space suits that are very thin and easy to put on/take off, and work at higher than 2 psi so there's no prebreathing requirement.
    12. Very high specific impulse (ISP) engines (from 1000 to 10,000) with thrust ranges in the tens or hundreds of newtons instead of millinewtons.

    Just a smattering of goals here.

  28. Nobel Prize by gradius3 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    So, will this compete with the Nobel Prize? Personally, I'm glad that there are visionaries that want to see the advancement of science and engineering and are willing to add monetary incentives to this goal.

  29. Let's move out of the dark ages ... by snippy · · Score: 2, Funny

    and come up with a shaving system that doesn't involving scraping sharp pieces of metal across our faces!

    I mean seriously, if someone could pack a laser hair removal system into a handheld gadget built for the home user, I'd buy it. I'm all about the not shaving for 4-6 weeks part.

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  30. Nature's Solution by pavon · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Yes, I find it really interesting, and perhaps ironic that the fuels we are using now - hydrocarbons - have a higher hydrogen density than any of the mechanical (temperature, pressure) or chemical (metal hydrides) methods proposed for hydrogen cars. Not to mention the additional energy stored in the form of chemical bonds. It makes you think that perhaps nature was onto something when (nearly?) every life form on this planet uses hydrocarbons as their primary source of energy.

    Also, if you think about it, hydrocarbon fuel cells are a step towards a fuel "metabolism" that closer mimics biology than current combustion engines. Maybe our next improvements in fuel efficency won't come from pure chemistry but learning from and modififying existing biological systems. Genetically modified biocrops, which power biological inspired fuel cells, both tuned specifically for each other.