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Feather-based Jacobean Space Chariot

simonmsh writes "The article Cromwell's moonshot: how one Jacobean scientist tried to kick off the space race describes 17th century plans to build a space chariot out of springs, feathers and gunpowder. The design was based on the idea that gravity disappeared at an altitude of 20 miles, which was called into question by Hooke ? and Boyle ? 's work. It sounds like the plot of a Neal Stephenson book." Said book, and its sequels are phenomenal.

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  1. 20 Miles Up by deliciousmonster · · Score: 4, Funny

    That's funny, I could have sworn gravity dissapeared within 3 inches of our receptionist's breasts...

    Although I think getting within 20 miles of them is a longshot...

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    1. Re:20 Miles Up by Theaetetus · · Score: 5, Funny
      That's funny, I could have sworn gravity dissapeared within 3 inches of our receptionist's breasts...

      In the pursuit of scientific inquiry, I think we need pictures...

    2. Re:20 Miles Up by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      I volunteer to be the spy satellite!

  2. Remember what Archimedes said: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Give me a big enough spring, and I can move Rubin Studdard into low earth orbit.

    1. Re:Remember what Archimedes said: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      Actually, it was "Give me a big enough spring, and I can move Earth into low Robin Studdard orbit."

    2. Re:Remember what Archimedes said: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      No, thats what happens in Soviet Russia.

  3. Hrmm by acehole · · Score: 5, Funny

    I wonder if macgyver could have done better...

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    1. Re:Hrmm by Ledora · · Score: 2, Funny

      I guess you don't watch SG-1, macgyver is alot better at space travel.

  4. More important news by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    TIme Travel Possible:-

    It came in the shape of a 17th-century clergyman who drew up plans for a spaceship powered by wings, springs and gunpowder, a leading science historian will reveal this week

    I mean wow, just wow.

  5. Someone should try it by contagious_d · · Score: 3, Funny

    "17th century plans to build a space chariot out of springs, feathers and gunpowder. The design was based on the idea that gravity disappeared at an altitude of 20 miles"

    I wonder if the thing could have made it 20 miles up. If someone builds one, I will supply the bound and gagged - erm, I mean "Jacobean Spacesuited" test pilots.

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  6. it didn't work by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    "Of course his approach did not work because he based it on the premise that the Earth's pull only went up 20 miles and if you crossed that 20 miles, you could float after that," no, i think the main reason it didn't work was because it was a clockwork flapping machine..

  7. Re:Favorite Quote by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    I don't mean to insult the poster, but I wonder what's so interesting about that post? Did the mods go "ooh, yes, infinite containers in our bodies, that's an interesting thought"...

    I'm scared.

  8. just 2 more miles and they'd have made it ! by RandomWordGenerator · · Score: 3, Funny

    Although gravity doesn't disapear after 20 miles, you can acheive geostationary orbit at 22 miles - so they weren't too far off.

    No, wait - I think I'm missing the obvious ... they were 22 miles off

  9. a grave and gathering threat by EugeneK · · Score: 3, Funny

    It's obvious 17th century England is trying to use its stocks of springs, feathers and gunpowder to develop WMDs. I say we invade now. We don't want to wait until the smoking feathers becomes a mushroom cloud.

  10. Re:Favorite Quote by slashdot_punk · · Score: 1, Funny

    You were a bit slow as a child... weren't you?

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  11. Re:Favorite Quote by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    I think you can read it in this case as "+5, Mocks Idiotic Theist by Comparing him to a Child". It's not the first time "Interesting" has been used this way.

  12. Re:Still no Christopher Reeve story? by Chuck+Bucket · · Score: 3, Funny

    Yeah, but it's not like Stephen King died or anything...

    CBA@#$

  13. Re:Yet not the first by Solder+Fumes · · Score: 2, Funny

    Ah...I knew *something* bothered me about John Carmack's X-Prize vehicle.

  14. Too Bad they did not consider Space Travel Sooner by lcsjk · · Score: 4, Funny

    A few hundred years earlier, it would have been much easier. One only had to board a ship and sail to the edge of the earth. Since it was flat, they would have been able to sail to the edge and merely jump off into space. Unfortunately, space travelers at the time had no way to return, so it was very difficult to sell tickets to rich kings.

  15. Re:Yet not the first by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    but that's the way with pioneers

    Don't you mean "fireworks"?

  16. Re:Stupid people by LiquidCoooled · · Score: 3, Funny

    I, for one, welcome our timetravelling anonymous coward posting timelords.

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  17. The author is so cruel by roman_mir · · Score: 2, Funny

    Unfortunately, Wilkins never had the chance to test his theories, and what Professor Chapman terms the Jacobean Space Programme was grounded. - I don't think the author of this likes this Wilkins guy too much.

  18. Re:Favorite Quote by Feanturi · · Score: 3, Funny

    Then I considered the volume of food we eat and just couldn't fathom what was happening to it.

    When I was little, some grownup mentioned me eating like I had a hollow leg. Well that's what I wound up seriously believing for a brief period. :) But like you, I couldn't see how it would keep from filling up. Weird how one can be going to the bathroom on one's own for a couple years and still not get it, heh.. This also reminds me of a more recent bit of idiocy I read only a few years ago. Somebody was saying the reason you get the munchies from smoking pot is because it warms up your liver, which heats your stomach causing it to expand, and thus feel less full.

  19. Re:Ancient Flying Machines in India by Feanturi · · Score: 2, Funny

    A slip in the translation is always possible. Maybe these 'manuals' are just player handbooks for a really early RPG. :)

  20. Re:Favorite Quote by AKAImBatman · · Score: 2, Funny

    This ofcourse has nothing to do with space travel, however, to keep the thing on topic, I too am from England! So maybe theres a pattern emerging!! :-D

    I say! Did I make some sort of comment that lead you to believe I was from Blighty? A thousand apologies my good sir, but I'm afraid I'm located on the other side of the pond! :-)

    Or was your comment in reference to the Professor in the article?

  21. Re:Ancient Flying Machines in India by dfay · · Score: 2, Funny

    A little like John Edward 'dictating' a new chapter of the Old Testament called "Moses had Laser Pistols"

    Actually he did. But Pharoah shot first. Don't let the revisionists tell you otherwise.

  22. Re:Ancient Flying Machines in India by tonywong · · Score: 2, Funny

    Actually, there has been a new text discovered and translated called the "VYMAANIDASHAASTRA AERONAUTICS NO FLY WATCHLIST".

  23. Re:Ancient Flying Machines in India by TeknoHog · · Score: 3, Funny
    "..The complete work was taken down in 23 exercise books up to August 23, 1923. In 1923, Subbaraya Sastry also had a draftsman prepare some drawings.."

    This sounds a little suspicious to me. A little like John Edward 'dictating' a new chapter of the Old Testament called "Moses had Laser Pistols"

    With that many 23s in it, it's either highly suspicious, or it holds the very key to the secrets of the universe fnord...

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  24. Re:Gunpowder Boosters? by kitzilla · · Score: 2, Funny

    Ya figure? ;-)

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  25. Hope by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    Swing low, sweet space chariot.

  26. His Greatest Invention by Number+110 · · Score: 2, Funny
    Dr Wilkins drew up plans for what he called a flying chariot powered by clockwork and springs, a set of flapping wings coated with feathers and a few gunpowder boosters to help send it on its way...

    ...and though his design never did lead to manned space flight the principles that he envisioned took root in the scientific community of the day leading to the eventual, perhaps even inevitable, creation of the Wile E. Coyote/Road Runner cartoon.

  27. Re:Ancient Flying Machines in India by Noginbump · · Score: 2, Funny

    So...

    Samara Sutradhara + Kama Sutra = History's first Mile High Club?

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