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Google Launches Desktop Search Tool

hanky writes "Google brings search to your very desktop with Google Desktop, a mini Google index of your own. Search your filesystem, Outlook or Outlook Express inbox, AIM instant message transcripts, and Internet Explorer cache. There's a full introduction to the Google Desktop over at the O'Reilly Network. It's Windows-only, but still cool enough for this Mac guy to find it intriguing."

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  1. The horns of a dilemma... by Control+Group · · Score: 5, Interesting
    Oh, the indecision!

    Being able to google my machine would be the best thing this side of perpetual motion.

    Having to start doing everything with AIM, IE, Outlook and MS-Office would be the worst thing this side of the universal solvent.

    Why, oh why, did they have to specifically aim this at all the apps I don't use?

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    1. Re:The horns of a dilemma... by l1nuxpunk · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I agree with you on this one.

      I'd use this tool in a minute if I wasn't using IRC, firefox, thunderbird and StarOffice on OS X.

      Open source community, I hear a cry for a new project.

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    2. Re:The horns of a dilemma... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      Outlook 2000+, Outlook Express 5+, IE5+, and AOL IM... You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villany.

    3. Re:The horns of a dilemma... by grub · · Score: 4, Insightful


      Well, I'd assume a ".doc" file created by OpenOffice, et al, would still be searchable by the desktop engine. It also searches through text files, etc. What do you save your word processing documents in?

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    4. Re:The horns of a dilemma... by Control+Group · · Score: 4, Insightful
      Hrm

      That would be fantastic...my spiritual pain was caused by reading their list of supported apps, which was AIM, Outlook (Express), text, IE, Excel, Word and PowerPoint(!).

      I supposed they didn't say it didn't work with other apps.

      If I wasn't at work, I'd download it and futz. But I am, which means even if I did install it, it would happily find IE, Outlook, Word, Excel and Powerpoint.

      *sigh*

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    5. Re:The horns of a dilemma... by Bun · · Score: 5, Funny

      Read myself journal when you are not understand. I am German and don't attack English!

      Buddy...if that isn't an attack on English, I don't know what is.

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    6. Re:The horns of a dilemma... by Tomahawk · · Score: 4, Insightful

      It closed Opera on me. However, it says that it doesn't work with Opera.

      I think there must be certain files that it needs to update, and Opera/Firefox/etc may have them locked. perhaps.

      It closed Outlook on me too.

      Now it's indexing all my files, Outlook, etc. Quite a nifty little thing.

      Only works on Windows XP and Windows 2000 SP3+, incidently, so worthless if you have Windows ME.

      It's handy for me in work (with I have to use Outlook, Office, etc), but at home I use Thunderbird, OO.org, and Trillian, so I don't think I'll be installing it at home. Though I might just for search my files...

      T.

    7. Re:The horns of a dilemma... by xanadu-xtroot.com · · Score: 5, Funny

      ...so worthless if you have Windows ME.

      I think you put the word "worthless" in the wrong spot in that statement...

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    8. Re:The horns of a dilemma... by eyeball · · Score: 5, Informative

      I'm a Mac user, and this made me shrug. The next version of OSX due out (early next year I think) has this feature built-in. What's neat is it's integrated into the OS, and the APIs are exposed, so developers can easily take advantage of it.

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    9. Re:The horns of a dilemma... by DigitumDei · · Score: 5, Interesting

      You know, now 90% of my mail is done through GMail. All my searching on the internet is done through Google. Now all my searching my PC will be done by Google.

      They might as well just write a bloody all-in-one operating system and get it over with. :P

      Seriously, I'd love to see them make a linux distro. Maybe it'd suck, but with their track record I'm betting it wouldn't.

    10. Re:The horns of a dilemma... by benjj · · Score: 4, Informative

      I assume that means it integrates with Firefox too.
      not really.

    11. Re:The horns of a dilemma... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative
      Milo of Kroton is a known troll that switched from perfectly fluent English (and something saying he took German in high school) to Gerlish.
      I wouldn't have believed this if I hadn't checked on it myself, but it's true. This guy used to type perfectly fluently.

      Hmm, wonder what happened.
    12. Re:The horns of a dilemma... by Destoo · · Score: 4, Informative

      It does integrate, but is not fully functionnal yet.

      >>
      Q: I can't find webpages I viewed with Mozilla Firefox.

      A:
      Google Desktop Search is only partially compatible with Mozilla Firefox. If you install Desktop Search and open a Firefox browser window, you'll see a 'Desktop' link appear on the Google homepage. You can click this link to go to the Desktop Search homepage whenever you want to search with Desktop Search.

      Web pages which you view in Firefox aren't added to your Desktop Search index, however, so you won't be able to find them with Desktop Search.

      We realize that many of our users use Mozilla Firefox as their primary browser, and we may consider adding increased Firefox support in a future version of Desktop Search.

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    13. Re:The horns of a dilemma... by Thomas+Miconi · · Score: 4, Interesting

      They might as well just write a bloody all-in-one operating system and get it over with. :P

      Man, with what they have now, if they just set up some kind of browser-based productivity /office tools (based on e.g. Echo or summat) then for all practical purposes they will have made the first true multi-platform OS ever !

      The underlying OS (win, linux, whatever) will just act as a kind of bloated BIOS. The browser being somewhat equivalent to the windowing system.

      Where do I sign up ?

      Thomas-

    14. Re:The horns of a dilemma... by anaesthetica · · Score: 5, Informative

      You don't have to wait until next year to have this type of application on your Mac actually. Check out Launchbar, Quicksilver and Butler. All do exactly what the Google Desktop does, only they are able to search through more types of files and items, and are better integrated with the filesystem. It's nice that Google threw Window's users a bone though. I may use it at work.

    15. Re:The horns of a dilemma... by bogie · · Score: 4, Interesting

      "we may consider adding increased Firefox support in a future version of Desktop Search."

      Lame. That's not reassuring at all. I would be a lot happier if they said we WILL be adding increased Firefox support in the future. Yes I understand the econmics of it and that marketshare had a lot to do with it. But considering that its the advanced users who pimped Google and helped really spread the word about it they could have thrown us a bone.

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    16. Re:The horns of a dilemma... by tanguyr · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Overall, i'd have to give it a 9 out of a possible 10, and i'm in much the same case as you are (all the good stuff not on C:\, incompatible browser software, etc.). The reason i'm giving it such a high score is that this software targets the "average" user and does a completely brilliant job of it. A 400k download followed by (this is the kicker) a question-free installation and it "just works". Software a son could love, but a mother could install.

      The inmates have been evicted, someone else is running this asylum.

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    17. Re:The horns of a dilemma... by marshall_j · · Score: 5, Informative

      http://desktop.google.com/support/bin/request.py

      Look! They have a specific category on their feedback page for asking to Firefox support.

      Why not jump on and ask them to hurry up and support it. They aren't psychic (or maybe they are. gooogle is pretty damn good).

  2. Testing. by loconet · · Score: 4, Interesting

    So far in my testing, it has performed better than MS's own indexing service which comes with Windows.

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    1. Re:Testing. by loconet · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Sure, I am simply able to find the relevant files faster. Not only is it faster (probably because it searches less files) but I'm able to quickly spot the file I want by looking at the text previews - something which Window's search tool does not have.

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  3. Gee - if only I used MS products.... by rueger · · Score: 5, Informative

    Doesn't work with Mozilla, or Opera, or Pegasus mail, or Eudora..... Guess I'll wait for something less MS centric.

    1. Re:Gee - if only I used MS products.... by TheJavaGuy · · Score: 5, Informative
      Google does support (partially) other browsers. I copied the url into opera and I got the following message:

      Our software suggests that you're using a browser incompatible with Google Desktop Search. Google Desktop Search currently supports the following:
      Microsoft IE 5 and newer (Download)
      While we're still testing Google Desktop Search, you can also click here to use your unsupported browser, though you likely will encounter some areas that don't work as expected. You need to have Javascript enabled, regardless of the browser you use.
      We hope to expand this list in the near future and announce new browsers as they become available. In the meantime, you can use IE 5 and newer.

      It seems to work fine in opera (for now).

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    2. Re:Gee - if only I used MS products.... by balster+neb · · Score: 5, Informative

      Firefox 'partially' supported. See this:

      http://desktop.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?an swer=10135&topic=96

      Anyway, hope they someday release it for an OS other than Windows.

    3. Re:Gee - if only I used MS products.... by stevey · · Score: 4, Informative

      I tested this as soon as I noticed. Seems to bind itself to 127.0.0.1 only.

  4. Holy crap its good. by VC · · Score: 5, Funny

    Thanks to me being a slashdot subscriber ive now had this for 6 mins and can offer a 6 minute review.

    GOOGLE DESKTOP HAS CHANGED MY LIFE!!!

    i achived in the past 5 minutes more than the previous 3 weeks. It found my car keys (they were under the pile of oreily books)!!!

  5. From the TOS: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative
    Unless you choose to opt out, either during installation or at any time after installation, non-personal information collected will be sent to Google.
    No thank you.
    1. Re:From the TOS: by irokitt · · Score: 4, Insightful
      Unless you choose to opt out
      So why don't you, I mean, opt out?
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    2. Re:From the TOS: by bluekanoodle · · Score: 4, Interesting

      This is true, but kudos to google for making the opt out during install very clear and easy to use. All you have to do is clear one clearly visible checkbox during the install.

  6. Why should mac people be envious? by Myuu · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Do you forget Spotlight technology in Tiger which does this too and is integrated into the OS?

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  7. might not be a good thing by kevinx · · Score: 5, Funny

    Now my wife could easily find out if I've been downloading porn.

    Great intention, bad Idea.

    1. Re:might not be a good thing by D-Cypell · · Score: 4, Insightful

      You are a hetrosexual male with an internet connection. You really think your wife needs to use google technology to work that out?!?

    2. Re:might not be a good thing by drinkypoo · · Score: 4, Funny

      What if it's homosexual porn?

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    3. Re:might not be a good thing by Elwood+P+Dowd · · Score: 4, Funny

      Come on, who doesn't like a little gay porn every so often?

      Right, guys?

      Guys?

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  8. And no update from MS any time soon by theluckyleper · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Yahoo's coverage says: "Microsoft Corp., which is working on a similar file-searching tool that it recently said would not be ready for the next version of its Windows operating system promised for 2006."

    So it looks like the new MS search functionality won't even make it into Longhorn? I don't see why it's so difficult... I mean if Google could accomplish it, without intimate knowledge of the OS, Office/Outlook/etc file formats, and such, why can't MS do it 5 times faster? I'm confused.

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    1. Re:And no update from MS any time soon by freqres · · Score: 4, Funny

      OMG!!

      SELECT *.JPG FROM C:\pr0n WHERE
      (HAIRY_DUDE = 0 AND
      LESBIAN = 1 AND
      STRAP_ON = 1 AND
      ANAL = 1) OR
      NAME = 'Lindsay Lohan';

      WinFS is teh R0x0R!!!

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  9. Re:I've installed this by antifoidulus · · Score: 5, Informative

    Already two Mac people in my office are fairly jealous, because this is what they thought Sherlock would be- but wasn't.
    It's also what Spotlight should be...(next release of OS X, Tiger)

  10. No Mac, No Thanks by Power+Everywhere · · Score: 5, Funny

    Come on Google, PowerPC users are a significant share of your audience.

  11. Holy pop culture reference! by irokitt · · Score: 5, Funny

    It helped me find a girlfriend! Thank you Google Desktop Search!

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    1. Re:Holy pop culture reference! by maxwell+demon · · Score: 4, Funny
      It helped me find a girlfriend! Thank you Google Desktop Search!

      Which means you already had the girlfriend on your desktop. Finding someone sitting on the top of your desk doesn't look like a difficult task to me :-)
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    2. Re:Holy pop culture reference! by AbbyNormal · · Score: 5, Funny

      It helped me find HIS girlfriend too! Thanks again Google Desktop Search!

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    3. Re:Holy pop culture reference! by kkovach · · Score: 5, Funny

      Ya mean something like this?

      Results...

      1.) Jenna.jpg
      2.) Janine.jpg
      3.) etc...

      - Kevin

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  12. Tell Google what you'd like to see, then by theluckyleper · · Score: 5, Informative

    The product is still in beta, and on the About Google Desktop page, they say:

    "Google Desktop Search is still under development as a beta product. We intend to add new file, email, and chat formats and browsers as Google Desktop Search evolves, and when new formats are created and used. If there's a format you'd like Google Desktop Search to be able to search, please let us know. We can't guarantee that we'll add every type that's suggested, but your suggestions will let us know what formats are important to you."

    I'm going to go suggest a couple right now, and get in on the ground floor :)

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  13. Google operating system - the next MS ?? by Alwin+Henseler · · Score: 5, Interesting
    First Google was cool and independent. Now with e-mail account, "G" searchbox included in your favourite browser, maybe a browser of their own, instant messaging, shareholders onboard, and... a desktop?

    What's next? The Google operating system? Are we looking at the beginnings of a next-generation Microsoft-like empire?

    1. Re:Google operating system - the next MS ?? by PetoskeyGuy · · Score: 4, Funny

      What's next? The Google operating system? Are we looking at the beginnings of a next-generation Microsoft-like empire?

      Yes, and then as you get older all the youngins will hate Google, and love some NEW company and you'll have to explain to them that Google used to be good, and Microsoft Bad, but Microsoft used to be Good and IBM bad but now IBM is good and maybe by then Microsoft will be good. Then there's the whole SCO/Caldera/SCO thing.

  14. One more step toward the future by Wylfing · · Score: 4, Interesting
    It's been my belief for a while that Google is going to be the storage medium of the future. Eventually we'll all share one big searchable "disk" called Google. Gmail and this local search tool are stepping stones toward that end.

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    1. Re:One more step toward the future by khendron · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I think you have it nailed. And this is why Microsoft is going to lose.

      Microsoft want to own your desktop.

      Google doesn't even want you to *have* a desktop. Google Desktop Search is the first step to blurring the difference between the desktop and the internet.

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  15. Microsoft's Lookout by __aaitqo8496 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    For those of you that don't know, take a look: http://lookoutsoft.com/Lookout/

    Microsoft bought this company which beat Google to the punch on desktop searching. Kinda funny that the letters on the main logo look very Googlish...

  16. Request new file formats by illuin · · Score: 5, Informative
    According to the FAQ, you can request that Google Desktop support new file formats.

    Of course, what would be really nice is if new formats were supported via plugins, and if google would distribute a simple API so the open source community could contribute new plugins rather than waiting for google to implement them.

  17. Spotlight by Jon+Abbott · · Score: 4, Informative
    It's Windows-only, but still cool enough for this Mac guy to find it intriguing
    Apple will be offering a somewhat similar feature called Spotlight in OS X 10.4 next year. The one immediate difference I see between the Google Desktop and Spotlight is that Spotlight will index text contained in PDFs.
  18. Re:Requires 1gig free space! by illuin · · Score: 5, Funny

    Only one possible conclusion to be drawn: Google Desktop must contain a trojan distributed file system which provides the storage space for GMail ;-)

    It's just a little game of give and take (a gig)

  19. indeed, might not be a good thing by AvantLegion · · Score: 5, Funny
    Now you can easily find out I've been talking dirty on AIM with your wife.

    Great intention, bad Idea.

  20. Pigeons!!! by ryane67 · · Score: 4, Funny

    Google search and ranking in my pc!??! How will all of the PIGEONS fit in there?!!?

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  21. Re:App Support by abh · · Score: 4, Insightful

    My suspicion is that they went after the most popular applications first, with additions coming in the future.

    This makes sense: start with a larger userbase. If someone wrote a really great audio tool, that only supported OGG instead of MP3, it wouldn't take off very fast (if at all). Same thing here.

  22. A very difficult thing but not that uncommon by SmallFurryCreature · · Score: 5, Insightful
    Simply put, MS can't see the trees through the woods, the left hand doesn't know what the right hand is doing.

    MS is big. Really really really big. Gigantic. This means that often things are not going to be moving all that fast but worse still it allows for a real danger off management explosion. 10 progammers need 1 manager. 100 programmers need 10 manager and a manager to manage the managers. 10.000 programmers need 100 managers plus 10 managers of managers and 1 to manage all them and so on right?

    WRONG. It is more like 100 programmers need about 10 technical officers, 10 project leaders, 5 project supervisors, a human resource staff, marketing, etc etc etc. To lazy to type it all out but I been in situations where software development had me the programmer reporting to well over a dozen managers all who had their own agenda. So I spend less time programming then doing meetings.

    Worse a really good programmer who just spends his time developing will be quickly out of the loop and unable to find an audience for his ideas.

    MS probably has several teams who could easily do this. They are just lost somewhere in the management jungle.

    Why not find them? Well why should they? Management is doing okay, windows keeps selling the bonusses keep coming in. Why should management go after those creepy skilled programmers when they can deal with nicely suited once who speak their language and deliver the next point upgrade not to much past the deadline?

    Lets be honest (ms apologists cover your ears) MS has never been an inovative company at the leading edge. For crying out loud, it started as a unix company after every one else already had done unix and then turned it into dos.

    it added a gui only after only everyone else had done one and stole the design. it only got a somewhat 32bit OS by stealing it from IBM and the final irony (someone else pointed this out to me recently) only got that 32bit after others had already had gone to 64bit.

    MS can do it 5 times faster, if it wanted. It doesn't. So far playing catchup has worked extremely well. What you don't like the MS search function? Your not that bright are you? The only reason you don't like it is because you paid MS to use it. They got your money wether you like it or not. Your confused and poor, Billy isn't.

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    1. Re:A very difficult thing but not that uncommon by Enigma_Man · · Score: 4, Funny

      Your confused and poor, Billy isn't.

      My confused and poor Billy isn't what?

      -Jesse

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  23. Re:I've installed this by SilentChris · · Score: 4, Insightful

    "Spotlight is better and it is fast! In Macworld keynote speech, Jobs demonstrated it and the search result was fast and instantaneous"

    Because we all know company demonstrations from CEOs are done in realtime using the current alpha software. :P I don't know whether to laugh or be scared of your gullibility.

  24. For the mac by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

    The is a better tool out there for the mac: QuickSilver

    http://quicksilver.blacktree.com/

    I have been using that for months now and don't know how I could get by without it.

  25. wait... by SComps · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Does anyone remember the targetted advertising of Gmail and how it sorta browses your email to place "relevent" ads on your screen?

    Now uhh.. they want to be on your desktop, integrating with the browser, your email, your chat clients and so on?

    Am I the only one that didn't overlook that just maybe Google wants to get in on the ground floor of your computer so it can sell you shit you're only vaguely interested in? Now I know that it says it'll only send what you give it explicit permission to send (did you read that EULA carefully? I didn't, just considering the possibilities) Also says non-identifying statistics will be sent.. you can opt out of that. What statistics? The list really sorta goes on. I'm not slamming Google for doing this. I just don't trust them as far as baby pigs can hop.

    I personally can't imagine me giving Google permission to browse my computer, email, and chats at will. That's some scary stuff. I can see Homeland Security rubbing their hands together and writing the "we want that info" letters now--cause we're all terrorists you know... it's only the degree of terror we're willing to inflict.

  26. To be fair: She knows. by gosand · · Score: 4, Insightful
    Now my wife could easily find out if I've been downloading porn.

    She KNOWS you have been downloading porn. This will just let her find the evidence.

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  27. Searching for porn.. by blekkazzen · · Score: 5, Funny

    It's a lot less fun when your Google search finds your OWN porn.