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Whopping-Big Data Theft At U.C. Berkeley

aceta writes "An intruder penetrated a research computer at U.C. Berkeley in August and had access to names, social security numbers and other data for 1.4 million Californians participating in a state social program. CNET calls it the worst intrusion U.C. Berkeley has experienced. SecurityFocus additional details: the hacker used a known vulnerability, and state officials have yanked the university's research access to the data because of the breach. The victims were all receiving or providing at-home care under a state program to help the elderly and disabled. The FBI is investigating."

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  1. Yeah by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Insightful

    And this would lead to even more draconian laws.

    Which, rather than protect our privacy, will give the government even more control over it.

    1. Re:Yeah by NardofDoom · · Score: 5, Insightful

      A wise man once said "A society is stable when some nut guns down a schoolyard and the laws *don't* change."

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  2. Guess What by Moby+Cock · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I can smell an over-reaction brewing. This is just the sort of incident that can force the adoption of stringent laws. The thing is, the machine at Berkeley were the ones victimised but it seems to me that this type of information will be sought after regardless of where it is. What I mean is, although Berkeley should have hardened the machine against an intrustion they were victimised because of the info they had, not who they were. The government servers are going to be targeted too.

    1. Re:Guess What by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Insightful

      I can smell an over-reaction brewing. This is just the sort of incident that can force the adoption of stringent laws

      Oh, so you are saying that "it coulda happened to anybody" so Berkeley should have no culpability? Your argument makes no sense at all. The issue is not "what information is desirable", it's, knowing the nature of the information stored (or being given access to), did the institution provide the appropriate level of safeguards? Your argument implies that if a subcontracter on an airplane produces a faulty engine part, that a reasonable argument would be "hey, engine parts receive stress, it's the nature of the part, sure they should have strengthened the part, but they were victimized because of the nature of the thing they were producing"

    2. Re:Guess What by garcia · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I can smell an over-reaction brewing. This is just the sort of incident that can force the adoption of stringent laws.

      As you all probably know I'm the last person that thinks that we should create laws due to overreaction but in this case I have to say that we do need more stringent laws against protecting SSNs.

      There is absolutely no reason that a researcher needed access to SSNs. They should have all been assigned a random ID number and that should have been linked back to the SSNs and stored in the STATE OFFICES ONLY for later cross referencing.

      We have all these demands for SSNs and we are supposed to be protecting them as our entire history is linked to them yet we don't have any real protections when they are.

    3. Re:Guess What by garcia · · Score: 3, Insightful

      The problem is nobody actually cares about that minor little legal detail. I wish the government would crack down on this and take care of identity theft once and for all.

      Well I went to a video store once. They required an SSN to rent movies there. When I told her it was illegal to use them as an ID number she told me it wasn't illegal to refuse me service.

      As long as there's no way to enforce the rules the rules are worthless.

      Now, in this case SSNs were likely necessary in the first place but they are probably unnecessary for research and thus my suggestion that the records should have been linked to a random ID number that was only able to be cross-referenced later at the State office.

    4. Re:Guess What by GoofyBoy · · Score: 3, Insightful

      >they were victimised because of the info they had, not who they were.

      No, universities, military, government are targetted for who they are.

      When a person starts cracking a new machine, its very rare they have any idea what data is on the machine.

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    5. Re:Guess What by drgreg911 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Anybody have a reference that'll prove it's illegal to use a SSN as an ID number? I'm at a University that requires me to produce my SSN pretty much constantly. It's my student ID number, generally the number used to post exam scores online so as to "hide the identity" of the student receiving each grade. Last week I had to write it on the top of every page of a many-paged exam so that an army of TAs could use it to keep track of my pages during grading. Scary shit ... I'd love to be able to put a stop to that with a legal reference.

  3. Worst. Intrusion. Ever. by Indy+Media+Watch · · Score: 4, Insightful
    CNET calls it the worst intrusion U.C. Berkeley has experienced

    No. It's only the worst intrusion they were made aware of. There could have been more...

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  4. Why did they need all of that data? by ericzundel · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It makes you wonder...

    Why does a research program need access to social security numbers, phone numbers, and the like?

    I think the real story is the State of California sharing too much personal information, regardless of how the hacker got access to it.

  5. One has to ask the question by TuballoyThunder · · Score: 4, Insightful
    What purpose does it serve the researchers to have SSN's? The purpose of the study was to study the impact of wages on in-home care. Likewise, the names are irrelevant to the researchers. The agency that provided the data should have eliminated the names and SSN's and replaced them with a unique identifier.

    This smacks of laziness on the part of the data provider and the researcher(s).

  6. Do What? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful
    The compromised system had the names, addresses, phone numbers, social security numbers and dates of birth of everyone ... Since it is sensitive data we figured it would be best to get word out to people so they can take preventive measures just in case."

    Preventive measures like changing their name, address, SSN and date of birth?

  7. Re:BSD is causing death by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I run FreeBSD at home and feel a little safer that a company

    Will your FreeBSD installation prevent you from putting your data on an available Apache server?

  8. MOD PARENT DOWN: TROLL by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Insightful

    Personally identifying data is (rightly) given more stringent protection than copyright.

  9. Re:suprising... by 2.7182 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Yeah, but you have to realize that they don't have smart CS security expert professors doing their windows administration for them.

  10. Re:BSD is causing death by slowhand · · Score: 0, Insightful

    Are YOU kidding? Most universities perform huge amounts of research using Professors as project managers and students as mostly underpaid labor. You think they survive on tuition? Think all Grad students do is study? Many work on projects which have and will change the world. many work on projects which are/will be hacked. Many work on security. Some work... on LSD.

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  11. Outsourcing anyone? by mhollis · · Score: 4, Insightful

    This may be seen as slightly offtopic, but the company I work for has outsourced payroll. Payroll includes the information supposedly stolen from this database, Social security numbers, home addresses, age, date of birth as well as a lot of financial information giving access to the earnings of many for many years.

    I'm wondering when the Indian company (or some person within that company) decides to legally sell that information to some Moldavian Mafiosi. I'll bet there are no Indian laws regarding the release of Social Security numbers and financial information of Americans. Might violate a contract but who's paying more?

    Does your company outsource payroll?

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  12. Stupid businesses by Pig+Hogger · · Score: 3, Insightful
    Now it's time to effectively ENFORCE the law that bans the usage of the SSNos as identification number for businesses, especially banks.

    The SSNo was never intended as an ID number. Yet, many businesses will take nothing else as a customer idendifier.

    Myself, I am being hounded by my electric power supplier who wants me to give them my SSNo (which I didn't when I opened my account).

  13. Re:Not Illegal by clausiam · · Score: 5, Insightful

    But that is completely insane. They're saying you can refuse to give it but that may mean you have to go without the service requesting it and then they mention a utility as an example and say "the choice is yours". So if you want to keep your SSN as private as possible you may have to live without electricity and water? It that what they call choice? /Claus

  14. In-Home care by Danman6126 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    In cases involving over 500,000 people, the organization can warn the potential victims en masse through a website posting and by alerting the media.

    Yeah, like bed ridden old people that need in-home care are going to be able to check a website for info on what's going on.

    Try sending them a letter or something!

  15. Re:I worked on this project... by hacksoncode · · Score: 3, Insightful

    This is a perfect example of why people who are out to save the world are dangerous.

  16. Re:SSN as National ID card (was:Re:Not Illegal) by Rufus88 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    It is illegal for the government to use the SSN for identification

    Really? The IRS is part of the government, and they use that number to identify me. What exactly are the "social security and tax purposes" that it could POSSIBLY be used for, OTHER than identification?

    Actually, I thought it was the card itself that wasn't supposed to be used for identification. I.e., you can't walk into airport security, flash 'em your SS card, and say, "I'm John Doe, here's my ID".

  17. Re:suprising... by cayenne8 · · Score: 2, Insightful
    "Especially considering that the data that was lost belongs to the state."

    Seems like the data on each individual should BELONG to the individual....

    Shouldn't you own your own data, and be able to say who does what with it?

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  18. Re:I worked on this project... by bluesangria · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Go ahead and blame IT if you feel like it, but the fact is that the importance placed on computers and IT starts in one place - at the top with the University President.
    The former president of Rice University, for example, was known to brag about how they had the lowest ratio of IT staffers to campus computers. Of course, Rice was one of the sites used in the zombie DDOS attacks on Yahoo, and some other sites, a few years back.

    If the university leadership doesn't understand or place any importance on spending appropriately for IT staffing, salaries, training, etc., then you are going to have overworked, undertrained and understaffed IT people - the perfect scapegoat. But, it won't fix their problems until the university leadership itself takes IT seriously.
    Just my $.02
    blue

  19. Read the Social Security Number FAQ by 14erCleaner · · Score: 2, Insightful
    The best source for information on SSN privacy, your rights, and how to protect yourself, is the Social Security Number FAQ. Read it, it's very useful.

    The law that the previous poster thinks is protecting him is probably the Privacy Act of 1974, which is only binding on government agencies. It's discussed in the FAQ.

    There is also a SSN FAQ at cpsr.org, but it formats like crap on Mozilla. You'd think "computer professionals" wouldn't screw up something like this.

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  20. Re:Anyone know what OS this was that got hacked? by AnodeCathode · · Score: 2, Insightful

    It obviously wasn't Windows or that would have been mentioned in the first sentence.

  21. Re:I worked on this project... by jonfelder · · Score: 4, Insightful

    So basically you blame IT, Microsoft, STATA, and Arnold instead of having the researchers take any of them blame themselves for being unable to generate usable random IDs. Why didn't they just generate their own random 9 digit identifier and delete the SSNs?

    Why didn't they make sure the box was secure by never putting it on the Internet?

    Granted yes, Microsoft software has vulnerabilities, STATA may suck, IT support may be stupid, and the state may have been negligent in distributing sensative data this way, but don't you think the researchers have some responsibility for this as well?

    The researchers knew it wasn't good to have SSNs in the data and (according to you) had strict rules about network access because it wasn't a Berkeley box. Yet, they put the box on the Internet anyway with unobfuscated SSNs.

    Don't you think those actions on the part of the researchers require them the share in the responsibility?

  22. Re:Some states disallow using SSN as student ID by Tassach · · Score: 2, Insightful
    Yeah, we really need the government telling DBAs what to use as their primary key.
    Any DBA who uses SSN as a primary key needs to be flogged with a CAT-5 cable. Privacy concerns aside, it's generally a bad idea to use any user-provided value as a PK because of the difficulty of guaranteeing uniqueness. People (intentionally or accidentally) enter bogus SSNs or refuse to give them, making it a poor choice as a required field, let alone a key.

    If you have SSN as a required field with a unique constraint or index, you're setting yourself up for a denial of service attack -- User1 enters a bogus SSN which happens to belong to User2. Now User2 is effectively locked out of the system -- he can't enter his (valid) SSN because of the key constraint violation, so he either has to give up or give a bogus value as well.

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  23. Re:Some states disallow using SSN as student ID by anthony_dipierro · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Any DBA who uses SSN as a primary key needs to be flogged with a CAT-5 cable.

    By her boss, maybe, but not by the government.

    Privacy concerns aside, it's generally a bad idea to use any user-provided value as a PK because of the difficulty of guaranteeing uniqueness.

    True, since there are at least some people out there with the same SSN.

    If you have SSN as a required field with a unique constraint or index, you're setting yourself up for a denial of service attack -- User1 enters a bogus SSN which happens to belong to User2. Now User2 is effectively locked out of the system -- he can't enter his (valid) SSN because of the key constraint violation, so he either has to give up or give a bogus value as well.

    Or you could just put the new account in a temporary table and have a human sort it out. It all depends on your application. If you're making a geocities site, OK. If the purpose of the database is to store company employees, then flagging identical SSNs is a feature, not a bug.

  24. Re:Universities notorious by megaversal · · Score: 2, Insightful

    There's a slight difference in our thinking, I think.

    When I say businesses don't have to assume their internal users are enemies... the users can unknowingly ruin systems (works, viruses, etc), but most of them are there just to do their work (the employees). My students specifically take the time to try to break my workstations, servers, and everything in between.

    Everything has to be physically protected far more than your standard company (at least in my experiences with both sides). At the lowest level, we find missing mouse balls routinely. It's not as sophisticated as the 20% of employees who are stealing the extra memory out of their machine, but it's much more of a pain in the ass. I wonder if it has to do with the "it's my workstation in my cubicle" mentality vs "this is just a computer in the computer lab."

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