Zaurus Sharp SL-C3000 Tested, Converted to English

conics writes "Sharp Japan released a new Zaurus October 15th. There were some on display at WPC2004 Tokyo. Pictures of the Sharp SL-C3000 tested in English; specs of the SL-C3000."

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Fristy

[Anonymous Coward]

Prosty!

Re:Fristy

[Anonymous Coward]

YOU FUCKING FAIL TO FAIL IT!

Re:Fristy

[jb.hl.com]

I'm going to try something different with this troll.

I'm going to try to turn this thread ontopic.

Maybe this guy posted the message from a Zaurus. I assume this is possible, correct me if I'm wrong...

Anyone else think that the "Zaurus" text on the bottom looks a bit like it was done in Apple Garamond (Apple's serif font which they use for branding)?

Re:Fristy

[Anonymous Coward]

Failure Guy, you have failed once again. Therefore, you are successful!

Failure for all, and for all a pathetic failure!

Re:Fristy

[michaeldot]

done in Apple Garamond (Apple's serif font which they use for branding)?

You're out of date: Apple haven't used Garamond for quite a while, probably since Microsoft started using it for product packaging.

I *think* Apple's current font is Lucida Grande, a sans-serif font that has a modern, 21st century feel. (Guess what Microsoft will be using in 5 years!)

Re:Fristy

[Anonymous Coward]

umm, I use Adobe Caslon on my Zaurus SL-6000L, and could probably switch to Adobe Garamond Expert (which I also have) if ... only ... Caslon wasn't already so friggin' sweet!!

Re:Fristy

[CyberDave]

Apple's main font is currently Myriad. When I worked in the campus bookstore, I would occasionally use it in the signage I created as an homage to my favorite computer company.

Looks cool

[rshimizu12]

The Zaurus SLC-3000 looks very cool where can I get one.....??? Too bad Sharp decided to quit distributing the Zaurus in the US

Re:Looks cool

[Trejkaz]

Inflated prices... but at least it's available. ;-)

Re:Looks cool

[chewy_2000]

Not surprisingly, the submitter seems to sell them on his web site, hence the submission.

Free (?) advertising to a massive target market must be a grand thing.

Re:Looks cool

[xf]

Conics/Brett (the guy who posted) sells them; I think this Slashdot post is partially a plug, too :-) Ordered stuff off him myself, incredibly helpful, arrived promptly, so strongly recommended.

Re:Looks cool

[conics]

>> where can I get one.....???

I hear Conics will have them :)
http://conics.net/shp/pda/zaurus-sl-c700/index.htm l

Re:Looks cool

[Psycho77]

Just from the same web site :) I bought my C-700 from conics.net, great guys, good service.

A few questions.

[Tuxedo Jack]

And now when is this coming out over here in the US?

Can we swap OSes on it to something else (I know, it's Linux, why would you want to, et cetera).

What'll it run, and can educators get discounts on it somehow?

And it's got a PHS in it - can we expect to see some sort of VoIP software for it when it gets ported over here?

Re:A few questions.

[Tuxedo Jack]

And how will this connect to a standard LAN? I'm presuming it'll be using a USB network adapter with various adapters for the cord as needed.

Lastly, will there be room for upgrades? Yes, 64MB of SDRAM is nice for a PDA, but more never really hurt, especially if you want to use XMMS on it (you can; it comes with headphones).

Re:A few questions.

[stuffman64]

First off, no USA on this device. Like the SL-CXXX series (I own an 860 myself), they will not be brought to America, though if you want one, you can import them from companies like Dynamism. Since it is essentially the same as the other Zaurus' hardware, I'm sure any of the kernels/ROMS currently available for it, but they are all Linux and all pretty good.

As for educational discounts, only in your dreams... or if you lived in Japan. Dynamism wants a cool $899 for it (I paid $850 for my SL-C860, and I think it's worth it).

Lastly, there are current VoIP for the Zaurus (KPhone comes to mind), so it should work with this model. The 4GB drive will come most in handy for the numerous emulators available (there are emulators for just about every pre-playstation console, and even a SCUMM emulator to play those classic LucasArts games [and rumors of a PS1 emulator abound]).

But you have to ask yourself if $900 is worth it for a PDA with very little support over here in the US. For most, it will be a "no," but for the true Linux-loving uber-geek, there is nothing better. Alternately, you can try the Zaurus SL-6000L (with full support here in the US). It's only $499 now at Amazon. Sure, it doesn't have the 4GB drive, but it works pretty much the same, except it lacks the cool clamshell design.

Re:A few questions.

[Anonymous Coward]

We expect to have the pdaXrom running on it as soon we get our hands on this device :-) So there is an alternative OS for it.

Visit http://www.pdaxrom.org/for more info.

Laze
pdaXrom Team

Nice, but...

[Gothmolly]

Caveat: I owned a Zaurus 5500, the review of which was even posted to the front page of Slashdot.
USB host, HD and big color screen will suck battery. Keyboard will be useful, but its not a real keyboard. Is Sharp trying to shrink a laptop to unusability (sucky KB), or is it expanding a PDA to unportability (no battery life). Is the market for this type of laptop/PDA hybrid big enough to support this?

Re:Nice, but...

[gl4ss]

*Is the market for this type of laptop/PDA hybrid big enough to support this?*

in japan it seems to be, doesn't seem worth their time to be exporting them though..

Re:Nice, but...

[PepsiProgrammer]

I still like my SL-6000, its in a similar form factor of the 5x00 Models, is still buyable in the US in English, built in wifi, great screen (better than the clamshells I hear) and awesome battery life.

I have never been happier with a pda.

Re:Nice, but...

[Anonymous Coward]

I recenly just got back from Japan and I bought a 860 there for about $580. I have to tell you, this thing is fantastic. Ive owned a few pdas and this one is the first I seem to be using constantly. The wide 640x480 lcd screen is great. Im posting from it right now. The battery life seems better than the 5500 which I also own. Ive mostly been doing wireless stuff so I dont really have any hard numbers on battery life.

Height-wise the 860 is smaller than the 5500. Width is the same. Depth is a little bigger.

This thing is actually a laptop replacement for me as long as I dont have to do any programming.

This is the first pda that browsing the web is usable. My only problem right now is I cant find the apostrophy key.

Damn

[The Islamic Fundamen]

That thing does look mighty fine.. But what would be the advantage of this over a high powered pocket pc??

And whats with that guys hairy fingers?!!?

Re:Damn

[Anonymous Coward]

almost everything.

I can to thousands of things with my zaurus that is 100% impossible with a windows based device.

not because the hardware is any better, but because the OS is not crippled and designed to hamper the owner.

In fact I piss off the MCSE's here at work every week during the department meeting by doing something yet again with my 5500 that they can not in front of the managers...

I'm thinking the clincher was running a power point presentation to the projector from my Z when challenged by a particulary mouthy MCSE.

"yeah, but linux cant do powerpoint..." , Oh, I forgot here is my presentation on our network upgrades... I'll email anyone the ppt file if they would like a copy..... why yes sir, this is my pda, no.... it does not run windows, it's linux.... yes the same linux as the servers."

the MCSE's hate me, and I pity them.

Zaurus is dead

[Dancin_Santa]

Basically, Sharp has decided that the PDA market is not expanding fast enough to allow room for more than three fundamentally different platforms in the handheld space. Microsoft pushes the PocketPC. Palm has their little OS. And Sharp was the Linux holdout. I guess there were others like the BlackBerry, but in terms of market size they are non-starters.

But with the market reaching saturation, the only thing Sharp can do, really, is get the hell out and cut their losses. This C3000 is the last in their series.

BUT!! Look for more feature-filled Sharp phones in the future. The cellular phone market is still expanding and the 3G Smartphone/Featurephone market is largely untapped so far. It doesn't take a genius to see how moving the PDA OS to a smaller form factor which EVERYONE wants is good business sense.

The thing you want to ask yourself now is whether getting a pretty nice PDA now is worth it considering you won't have any support for it after a year.

Re:Zaurus is dead

[Michael Spencer Jr.]

no support? What are you smoking?

I don't suppose people who buy Sharp laptops have to get all their software from Sharp too, do they? Do all Dell laptop owners buy all their software and games from Dell?

Sharp will honor their warranty. That's all they need to do. You can get all kinds of software for this device from other sources, as long as you have the hardware.

--Michael Spencer (An SL-C700 owner, considering buying this SL-C300)

Re:Zaurus is dead

[hklingon]

The HP 100LX / 200LX was essentially abandoned by HP with similar reasoning. HP came out with the 320LX, a WinCE device. Yet, the 200LX persists to this very day. (A decade+later)

I think Sharp dumping the USA market makes perfect business sense. The average american consumer is just too ignorant for the C7xx/C860/C3000 line of PDAs. Most folks want something that 'just works.' They are ignorant of cross-compiling, and probably find the lack of a unified (stable) software set annoying at best.

The nicest thing about the 200LX was the software suite was extremely well designed and put together. For me, the 200lx 'just worked' right of of the box for everything I needed it for, and it was completely painless to make it do more. The Zaurus pales in comparison, but with a little diligence I think I can get it where I want it. It isn't much fun trying to port or fix botched ports of the software you want.

You may be right that this will be the last good PDA model Sharp makes.. but after carrying my 200LX for just over a decade, I've found my successor.

Just as before, the average consumer did not want a DOS palmatop in a sea of (then extremely crappy) WinCE devices. They want something that just works.

Me? I'm having a very good time cross-compiling things for the Arm, porting scripts and utilities and really turning this PDA into an ultra-portable laptop. I almost have a dos emulator running at a nice speed. I doubt that most folks want to do this stuff. Most of the techies I work with want a PDA that 'just works'. I can't say that I blame them, but I want another 10-year PDA.

I suspect this device will have the same cult following as the 200LX does, even though the software is a bit rocky with all the variations in the Zaurus famuly. I can only hope it persists for a decade.

Re:Zaurus is dead

[sakusha]

You obviously don't know how Japanese corporations work. Sharp has deep pockets, and is fully committed to keeping prestige products on sale, even if they're not making money, even if it's only limited markets (i.e. Japan only) in order to keep their name established as a market leader. And then someday the market will ripen, and they'll still be poised to make a big splash. That's how they look at it.

Re:Zaurus is dead

[Anonymous Coward]

Apparently Dancin Santa has not heard of a place called Japan. The C3000 is FAR from the last of the Zaurii. What has happened is that Sharp has withdrawn from the US market, not the PDA market.

No better evidence of Sharp's wisdom can be found than on /. in this VERY thread, where someone else is complaining that the HDD on the C3000 gives you nothing unless you need a friggin' multimedia Japanese dictionary.

Sharp released 10 PDA models in Japan during the same time period as releasing 3 in the USA. The days of USA gadget supremacy are over. Japan is the center of the world now, and we are a backwater. We can't even hold an election that distinguishes us from a banana republic.

Sharp is abandoning us in favor of customers who actually want interesting hardware. Most USA consumers are satisfied with crap, as long as it's cheap. Sharp and Sony have the right idea. Use their talents on appreciative consumers.

By the way, another issue Dancin Santa got wrong is the claim that you should consider no support after a year. Actually, Sharp has offered VERY little support in the USA ever, but will continue to support Japanese customers for a VERY long time, since the Zaurus is popular there.

Re:Zaurus is dead

[Anonymous Coward]

I think Sharp dumping the USA market makes perfect business sense. The average american consumer is just too ignorant for the C7xx/C860/C3000 line of PDAs. Most folks want something that 'just works.' They are ignorant of cross-compiling, and probably find the lack of a unified (stable) software set annoying at best.

But the Zaurus does "just work": it comes with a unified (stable) software set.

Re:Zaurus is dead

[Anonymous Coward]

You forget that the HP 100LX/200LX uses stock AA rechargeable batteries, which can be recharged in-situ and run for 15 to 30 days. There's nothing else on the market with this functionality, and this Sharp is not going to cut it (I have *4* HPs, hoarded since 1994 to take care of breakages, but they've all survived to this date).

What I really need is a unit similar in appearance (clamshell, qwerty, mono reflective screen) and functionality (very long battery life) - but running Linux/X and having a stock gcc toolchain. Palmax (x86) and the NEC Mobilepro 400 were the only ones that came close, but not close enough.

A cluster farm of these!

[Anonymous Coward]

Could play nintendo

Features

[allden]

a) Doesn't talk about bluetooth b) No inbuilt wireless c) I bet the price won't be less than $600 Why should a non-geek buy Zaurus and not a Sony?

Re:Features

[Zugot]

The lack of bluetooth and wireless are a buzz kill. Other than that, this device seems hot.

Re:Features

[Koutarou]

Bluetooth is a non-issue in Japan. No one uses it.

Au and DoCoMo came out with like 1 phone each that had it 2 years ago, and nothing since. Don't think Vodaphone even bothered.

Re:Features

[Guylhem]

Maybe to get a real computer, where he can flash the OS he want, run apache, perl, code on the go etc.

But you're right on the price. Far too expansive. Get a 6000L for $399 at amazon, and buy a big CF. You'll enjoy the local warranty (no fedex to Japan!) and a better screen. And you'll have to use wikipedia instead of the japaneese encyclopaedia anyway (I don't speak japanese you insensitive clod)

Once again the japanese get better tech

[Anonymous Coward]

Japan has better cars,better tech toys,and better women.
Why oh why was i born im amerikkka

Re:Once again the japanese get better tech

[Anonymous Coward]

Japan sucks. It is overcrowded. The police force is wimpy. Anime may be cool in the States, but in Japan it is heavily merchandised to the point that its sickening. You don't want to live in Japan. Trust me.

Since there's no "Slashdot Entertainment" board...

[Anonymous Coward]

Can we make *this* the official "What the FUCK was Ashlee Simpson thinking?!" thread?

'Cause seriously, we need to discuss it. That was a clusterfuck of SCO proportions.

Won't be seen stateside

[Mike Rubits]

If anyone is looking out for this, prepare to shell out a really shiny penny, as you won't see this in the US.

Re:Won't be seen stateside

[c-tink]

importers in the US are having a hey day it seems.
googling the unit brings up some of them. definitely lotsa pennies needed -_-;;

sorry, but....

[klaricmn]

don't look for it in the US anytime soon. see link

A little wider, please.

[tji]

That's not a bad looking device. The small LCD display does a nice job with the ebay page they showed in the pictures. But, I still think that to make it a really usable device for WWW browsing, they need to make the screen a bit bigger.

There is plenty of space availble with all that plastic on both sides of the display.

Re:Since there's no "Slashdot Entertainment" board

[Anonymous Coward]

I had never seen her before. I was surprised at how ugly she was, I thought all these little pop princesses were supposed to be cute. I would rather rub my dick in dog vomit than fuck her.

Enough of the US

[enginuitor]

That's it, I'm moving to Japan!

PDAs and the market

[British]

I am still dumbfounded why new PDAs are released it seems every week. I bought my Handspring Visor 2 years ago(still use it), only to find support for it was pulled rather shortly after I bought it. I was hoping to just walk into any brick & mortar store and buy a keyboard or module for it. But alas, no.

Re:PDAs and the market

[gl4ss]

you can't find a compatible keyboard?

shouldn't be that hard(online).

Re:PDAs and the market

[kalidasa]

The Visor was also the first Handspring PDA. Look it up: Visor, Visor Deluxe, Visor Prism, Visor Edge, Visor Platinum, Visor Pro, Visor Neo. All the Handspring PDAs (as distinguished from the Handspring smart phones) were called "Visor." For some reason, new management at Handspring decided to abandon the Springboard platform early and move entirely to Treo. Handspring was bought in its entirety by Palm - mostly to get the Treo line - and eventually disappeared into PalmOne after the BeOS NeXT-style Trojan takeover and the split of PalmOne and PalmSource.

Re:PDAs and the market

[kalidasa]

Correction: there were one or two late Treo-branded non-phone PDAs - they are distinguishable from the Visor by their shape and the absence of the Springboard connector. The Visor Deluxe I have is still running, beautifully; I don't use it, but rather use a more featureful but less rugged Tungsten C. It makes me wish the Visor line had survived.

Re:PDAs and the market

[T0mWil5on]

Handspring's abandoning of the Springboard module and the Visor line is a sore point for me.

I still have two Visor Neos, a Visor Pro and one of the early 2MB units and still use one of the Neos daily. I played with the new Palm units but still prefer the Neo. The new stuff eats batteries too much for my liking and are not nearly as rugged.

A Visor Pro, in conjunction with a Symbol CSM-150 scanner module, made for a cost effective solution for software we develop. That combination runs rings around Symbol's own Palm offering performance and price-wise. We were quite happy with them.

Of course, they have to up and make some doodad too large to be a cellphone and too cumbersome to be a PDA, get into financial difficulties then get bought out by Palm.

Now, we are stuck using Symbol SPT 1550 units that run like a VIC-20 on Quualudes, cost twice as much and are hard to find reliable sources for.

Re:PDAs and the market

[Cwaig]

See, if you'd bought a Zaurus that'd not be a problem...you can walk into any brick & mortar and buy a keyboard - my IRK driver for the Zaurus supports Targus, Palm, Pocketop and Belkin PDA keyboards on all Zaurus models from the old SL5000-D right up to the latest clamshell models...). Praise be to the gods of open source....(folks in the US, Canada, Europe and Japan have contributed code just to this one tiny little project).

Re:PDAs and the market

[jseng]

Have slashdot lost its geekiness?

Doesn't anyone realize this is the coolest geek device that runs Linux, with a build-in WiFi, 4Gb harddisk, which makes is almost a functional computer at handheld size, and totally hackable to boot!

(Sure, it is not as powerful as a full-fledge notebook but that could be said the same when notebook first arrive...learn a bit more about disruptive technology history)

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If you don't like it here...

[wed128]

move. We don't need you griping. Goodbye karma, but i think my point matters.

Re:If you don't like it here...

[Anonymous Coward]

mod parent up

State of the PDA market

[echocharlie]

Now that Sharp and Sony are no longer devloping PDA products for the US market, I find the major innovators are now gone. Now PalmOne and all the PocketPC vendors have no incentive to push the envelope. It's a shame really...

Re:State of the PDA market

[Anonymous Coward]

I don't know if SL-C3000 is going to be sold in US, but at least this article (in Japanese) reported a comment from Sharp who denied the rumor of them stopping the sale of SL-6000 in US.

They said "There is no fact of having made the decision which stops the enterprise development activities of SL-6000 in the U.S. market. It is also continued to consider the deployment according to the needs of a spot." (via a machine translation)

Re:State of the PDA market

[nerk88]

Of course there will be an incentive to "push the envelope". The US is not the only market, and WinCE and Palm devices compete all over the world.

If Japan has such a huge market for these things, it would be madness for other developers NOT to compete there, and they are not going to have a production line for lower powered dumbed down devices just for US consumption.

Don't buy Sony either!

[Anonymous Coward]

h++p://www.bargainpda.com/default.asp?newsID=2082

Sony is leaving the US PDA market too.

VGA out

[mbaudis]

does anybody know about the vga out? ideally, i would like to present PDFs done in XGA resolution, or at least in SVGA. probably i have to wait 1-2 ipod generations to get this properly done...

Re:VGA out

[Anonymous Coward]

I've seen a CF VGA adapter...

Re:VGA out

[RevAaron]

There is a CF card you can buy for the Zaurus that lets you do presentations over VGA. However, there is only one program that supports it and it doesn't show PDFs. The program is Hancom Mobile Presenter. You cannot use the VGA out for any Zaurus app, unfortunately.

Zaurus Community

[dangerz]

We've been hearing rumors about this for a while over at the ZUG. I dont know how much I like it though.

The screen is the same size as my c860 and so is the battery. The only difference are the weird colors (white/silver/chrome???) and the fact that it is bigger. As well, it also has a hard drive that is going to eat the battery.

Sharps biggest selling point is that the device includes some multimedia Japanese dictionary. Rather useless for those of us that dont need it. I think the entire dictionary takes up about 600 megs?

For now I'm very happy with my c860 and the new 2 gig sd cards are keeping me more than ok in the space area.

Anyways, on a different note, I'll take this opportunity to plug http://www.zaurususergroup.com/forums/ for those Zaurus owners that don't know about us :) We're currently building a Zaurus Software Index to help make it easier for people to download the software they need.

Some other good sites for the Zaurus:

http://www.openzaurus.com
http://www.pdaxrom.com

Re:Zaurus Community

[gullevek]

The right URL is www.openzaurus.org not .com .

and same for the second. They are all org not .com

corrected URLs:
http://www.openzaurus.org
http://www.pdaxrom.org

Re:Zaurus Community

[dangerz]

Eee, sorry about that. Thanks for the fix :)

Re:Zaurus Community

[Guylhem]

The battery won't be eaten by the CF hard drive - they are nearly as power efficient as "flash" CF

And anyway, I wouldn't trade my beloved 6000 (bluetooth AND wifi) for a C3000 ... or a C860 :-)

The 6000 has a far better screen, $399 on amazon with integrated wifi - and you can buy a big SD or CF mini hard drive if you need. $850 for a C3000? No way.

Re:Zaurus Community

[sl70]

I've been waiting for the price of the 6000 to drop, and reading this I got my hopes way up, only to have them dashed to smithereens when I found the price on Amazon to be $499, not $399.

Dang!

Re:Zaurus Community

[Guylhem]

They raised it. It was 399 a week ago on a stock clearance sale. Sorry.

Re:Zaurus Community

[sepluv]

I am probably going to buy a Zaurus, so could someone tell me what the pros and cons (both in usage & spec differences) of the C3000 v. 6000 are.

Also, how similar are they--can software compiled for one run on the other?

The reason I ask is that I am in the UK and I cannot find anywhere on WWW that sells the 6000 to the UK (maybe 'cause of the WiFi but there is a non-WiFi model) but some places will do the 3000.

Major price drop then price rise on Zaurus SL-6000

[Anonymous Coward]

There was a major price drop of the Zaurus SL-6000 to $399.00 on Amazon last week. Now the price of the Zaurus SL-6000 is now $499.00. Sharp is clearing the Zaurus SL-6000 but now a price rise. Maybe this is a case of supply and demand. There is a price drop, the discontinued SL-6000 is selling well enough to demand a $100 price rise.

push the envelope!!!

[bstadil]

Now PalmOne and all the PocketPC vendors have no incentive to push the envelope

I understand your comment but in reality it is dead wrong. The competition is not the High-end Linux PDA etc the mortal blow to PDA's are coming from cell phones. This goes for MP3 players as well. One million MP3 enabled smart phones were sold in S. Korea las 12 month.

If the PDA makers do not push the envelope they will disappear.

The phone is the key feature you can not do without so there is a natural gravitation toward that end of the market. Include Phones in PDAs are possible but so far not been succesful.

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self-/.-ing

[tverbeek]

One really shouldn't submit one's one bandwidth-limited site to /. before making arrangements for lots more bandwidth.

Re:self-/.-ing

[conics]

agree with you there.... sorry for any inconvinience.

after 7GB in 1 hour, I bumped the conics site up to 40GB and will monitor this to see if it needs more.

I would have hosted the images on our office server, but the fiber optic won't be reconnected until November 2nd, and current 700kbps DLS wouldn't satisfy this kind of bandwidth.

Linux holdout - not quite

[vlad_petric]

With the second official Sharp ROM, it became impossible to synchronize Linux with Zaurus ... (I'm not talking about home-grown scripts, I'm talking about the full thing). It became in fact easier to synchronize WinCE devices than Zaurus.

My impression was that they thought the open source community would take care of everything for them as far as software is concerned, and they wouldn't have to lift a finger ...

In the end the only player left in the market was theKompany.

Bandwidth Limit Exceeded

[Anonymous Coward]

The server is temporarily unable to service your request due to the site owner reaching his/her bandwidth limit. Please try again later.
Apache/1.3.31 Server at www.conics.net Port 80

Re:Bandwidth Limit Exceeded

[conics]

sorry for any inconvinience.

bandwidth has been increased to the conics site now.

America is simply dead

[Anonymous Coward]

Just face the facts : dollar value and internaitonal support is dropping by the day, US economy is worsening the same... US market is not interesting anymore.

yeah, if I had money ;)

[gullevek]

Although I own a 860, and I am very happy with it. This one looks neat with its internal HD. I would love to have a second one to do some Tests with various Linux Distris :)

And nothing is more wonderful than to play Monkey Island in 640x480 in the morning :)

Re:yeah, if I had money ;)

[xf]

How the hell do you use ScummVM in 640x480? I've got a SL-C860, and ScummVM only runs in the older Zaurus res.

Re:yeah, if I had money ;)

[gullevek]

with the right libs:

http://zports.sourceforge.net/

I was extremly luckt to stumble over that, because before I also could only play it in the old Zaurus resolution.

Re:yeah, if I had money ;)

[xf]

Mind pointing out which libs exactly - I'm assuming SDL-related? Somebody really needs to maintain a feed purely for Cacko/Sharp ROMS, for the 640x480 series Z's. Having packages for every damn ROM in the same feed results in a horrible mess of dependencies.

Re:yeah, if I had money ;)

[gullevek]

these libs are all for the original qtopia enviroment.

okay, for basic scumm you only need the libSDL (if you go the scummvm link you find links on the bottom).
For sound you might also need the libSDL mixer and perhas libMAD.

As I most of the time play in train and listen to some other music I haven't tried out sound yet.

HTH

[and yes a better software search with the possibilty to search for "work 100% in C-8/7x0 series would be great. perhaps time to mail killefiz.de people?]

Re:yeah, if I had money ;)

[xf]

Cheers for this, runs nicely now in 640x480. BASS works!

You can see it at Dynamism

[BrianWCarver]

Since the site is slashdotted, you'll have to see the SL-C3000 at Dynamism who will make it available to US customers in November.

Zaurus Software Index

[egghat]

Zaurus Software Index.

Duplication of efforts?

Bye egghat.

Re:Zaurus Software Index

[Psycho77]

ZSI is not stable, outdated and lack some features. the new ZSI2 will be way better, and easier to get better programs.

Who cares?

[paranerd]

Based on the number of responses to this article, no one.

Perhaps Sharp should have cared more about us.

Conics.net or Dynamism.com ???

[MMHere]

$900 at Dynamism (U.S. based), $750 at Conics.net

Three questions:

(1) Is Conics.net based in Australia?

(2) Why the big price difference?

(3) Does Conics ship to U.S.?