It boasts a new UI. It is going to be supported by more vendors as an OEM install than Linux ever had. It will bring Linux to the masses. It is designed to be secure. It will make Microsoft shit their pants.
Who cares if it boots in three seconds? Modern operating systems sleep and wake flawlessly. I can already access online services and applications with this little doohicky called a browser. I already have a small, low-powered device that lets me access these things too...It's called a smartphone.
ChromeOS offers *nothing* that isn't already out there on mature platforms. It brings *nothing* to the table.
Any Microsoft soiled britches are likely the result of uncontrolled laughter.
This. Is. A. Non. Event.
Mod me down all you like. It changes nothing.
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And I think we're seeing a substantial number of people who won't.
Microsoft has done a great favor for Apple and Linux, I'm afraid.
OS X may have been gaining ground on XP, but Vista buries it.
Under a vast mountain of UAC dialogs?
Being a Microsoft cheerleader must be tough these days.
"Oh yeah? Well our start-up sound was focus-group-tested and cost a million dollars! Go back to mommy's basement, you tone-deaf OSS commie!"
The sad truth is that this Windows release is a disappointment of epic proportions. None of the *interesting* things they promised made it in even after years of delay. All we get are "Oooooo pretty" and "We're waiting on Moore's Law to catch up - Be patient"
After Windows 2000 Professional, I thought you guys were finally on the right track - Talk about misplaced optimism.
Unless MS is coming out with MS-Postgre++, I don't see how that matters much.
They took one look at VACUUM ANALYZE and embraced that sucker for all it was worth - Who wouldn't?
This is part of a larger strategy - They're attacking LAMP.
The only thing keeping them from total world domination at this point is their marketing department's utter failure to come up with anything better than MIPGVB.
When they clear that hurdle, tack the word 'Experience' to the end and decide on a start-up sound, the world is their oyster.
We use SugarCRM in a light-to-medium-duty manner at the office and were considering recommending it to certain customers.
That will not happen.
Their logo protection locking legitimate customers out screams ineptitude and the word-filtering of "vTiger" in their blogs is both petty and childish.
The time eventually comes when ties to legacy must be severed.
Microsoft's time was a *long* time ago.
They need to do it and do it NOW.
If they do not, it's going to drag them and the rest of the PC industry to the bottom.
Go Apple's route and build a compatability layer for those who *must* have their crusty old applications. Give the rest of us something that works and justifies the trouble.
Oh...get rid of that Ballmer character and retire Gates. Station some real visionaries at the helm.
1. Gates
Opportunistic son of a lawyer.
2. Stallman
Unkempt, pipe-dreaming flower child.
3. CEO
Political appointee who plays with pencils, attends meetings and acts as sacrificial lamb for the investors.
4. Sun
Setting.
5. Microsoft
Company with few cash cows left in the herd.
6. OSS
1940's counter intelligence with balls of steel or stuff people like me produce to either assuage a particular itch or because nothing decent is on TV.
I'm not familiar with the Windows client as all of my systems run Linux.
I've used it for numerous projects since March 03, 2005 with little incident.
I presently have it running on 50+ boxes.
Sign up at the project's website, start the BOINC client(s) with the attach_project option, enter the URL and the account number then forget all about it.
They need to take the words "Innovation" and "Experience" away from their marketing department and apply them towards their product.
Why?
They have been eclipsed, evolution-wise, by company that couldn't even manage memory-protection or preemptive multitasking a few years ago.
It gets worse. They can barely manage to fight to a stalemate against a 30+ year old OS they, themselves, claimed to have "killed" a few years back. Adding insult to injury, the 30 + year old OS isn't even the real thing - It's a hack thereof assembled by a Finnish college student and a bunch of hobbyists.
They are in a position where they had damned well better produce something that lives up to the hype.
If it doesn't look and run stellar, they may as well not bother.
Handspring's abandoning of the Springboard module and the Visor line is a sore point for me.
I still have two Visor Neos, a Visor Pro and one of the early 2MB units and still use one of the Neos daily. I played with the new Palm units but still prefer the Neo. The new stuff eats batteries too much for my liking and are not nearly as rugged.
A Visor Pro, in conjunction with a Symbol CSM-150 scanner module, made for a cost effective solution for software we develop. That combination runs rings around Symbol's own Palm offering performance and price-wise. We were quite happy with them.
Of course, they have to up and make some doodad too large to be a cellphone and too cumbersome to be a PDA, get into financial difficulties then get bought out by Palm.
Now, we are stuck using Symbol SPT 1550 units that run like a VIC-20 on Quualudes, cost twice as much and are hard to find reliable sources for.
Linux software raid is faster then anything else out there (realy IT IS), plus then you don't have to buy any crappy IDE adapters with propriatory drivers. Oh and it does support RAID 5, and probably even hotswappable drives if your using SATA hardware.
I'll just take it as read that you are naive and let it go at that.
Anyone who actually needs hot-swappable RAID level 5 will most likely opt for a SCSI hardware-based solution. Software-level solutions are not what I would call viable from a performance/data integrity standpoint.
Actually symbologies with Reed-Solomon encoding (ISS-Maxicode for example) can sustain quite a bit of smudging and still decode perfectly and from any orientation.
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...for me but it is time to move on.
I've neither the time nor the patience to wait for this masturbatory nonsense to run it's course.
It boasts a new UI. It is going to be supported by more vendors as an OEM install than Linux ever had. It will bring Linux to the masses. It is designed to be secure. It will make Microsoft shit their pants.
Who cares if it boots in three seconds? Modern operating systems sleep and wake flawlessly.
I can already access online services and applications with this little doohicky called a browser.
I already have a small, low-powered device that lets me access these things too...It's called a smartphone.
ChromeOS offers *nothing* that isn't already out there on mature platforms.
It brings *nothing* to the table.
Any Microsoft soiled britches are likely the result of uncontrolled laughter.
This. Is. A. Non. Event.
Mod me down all you like.
It changes nothing.
And I think we're seeing a substantial number of people who won't.
Microsoft has done a great favor for Apple and Linux, I'm afraid.
Putting the kinks in?
Under a vast mountain of UAC dialogs?
Being a Microsoft cheerleader must be tough these days.
The sad truth is that this Windows release is a disappointment of epic proportions. None of the *interesting* things they promised made it in even after years of delay. All we get are "Oooooo pretty" and "We're waiting on Moore's Law to catch up - Be patient"
After Windows 2000 Professional, I thought you guys were finally on the right track - Talk about misplaced optimism.
...has detected Amoxycylin.w64 in this email attachment!
...Hitchcock-style!
Unless MS is coming out with MS-Postgre++, I don't see how that matters much.
They took one look at VACUUM ANALYZE and embraced that sucker for all it was worth - Who wouldn't?
This is part of a larger strategy - They're attacking LAMP.
The only thing keeping them from total world domination at this point is their marketing department's utter failure to come up with anything better than MIPGVB.
When they clear that hurdle, tack the word 'Experience' to the end and decide on a start-up sound, the world is their oyster.
Thanks for posting those links.
We use SugarCRM in a light-to-medium-duty manner at the office and were considering recommending it to certain customers.
That will not happen.
Their logo protection locking legitimate customers out screams ineptitude and the word-filtering of "vTiger" in their blogs is both petty and childish.
You can only commend them to a certain extent.
The time eventually comes when ties to legacy must be severed.
Microsoft's time was a *long* time ago.
They need to do it and do it NOW.
If they do not, it's going to drag them and the rest of the PC industry to the bottom.
Go Apple's route and build a compatability layer for those who *must* have their crusty old applications. Give the rest of us something that works and justifies the trouble.
Oh...get rid of that Ballmer character and retire Gates. Station some real visionaries at the helm.
"Unix is the only way"? Eh, Microsoft is very successfull with it's own non-Unix operating system.
If you measure success as releasing flawed operating systems to keep users on an upgrade treadmill, I agree totally.
1. Gates Opportunistic son of a lawyer. 2. Stallman Unkempt, pipe-dreaming flower child. 3. CEO Political appointee who plays with pencils, attends meetings and acts as sacrificial lamb for the investors. 4. Sun Setting. 5. Microsoft Company with few cash cows left in the herd. 6. OSS 1940's counter intelligence with balls of steel or stuff people like me produce to either assuage a particular itch or because nothing decent is on TV.
...as long as there exist people who like a clean, rock-solid and cruft-free distro.
My primary system will continue to run Slack for as long as Patrick continues to release it.
I'm not familiar with the Windows client as all of my systems run Linux.
I've used it for numerous projects since March 03, 2005 with little incident.
I presently have it running on 50+ boxes.
Sign up at the project's website, start the BOINC client(s) with the attach_project option, enter the URL and the account number then forget all about it.
It just plain works.
Who knows? I may be an anomoly. YMMV, etc.
If you look at things objectively, you'll see that science is its' own little religion.
Besides, it's not like the definitive answer of where we came from is all that important.
Better to be concerned about where we are *now* and where it will lead us in future.
It's too trivial a subject to even debate.
They need to take the words "Innovation" and "Experience" away from their marketing department and apply them towards their product.
Why?
They have been eclipsed, evolution-wise, by company that couldn't even manage memory-protection or preemptive multitasking a few years ago.
It gets worse. They can barely manage to fight to a stalemate against a 30+ year old OS they, themselves, claimed to have "killed" a few years back. Adding insult to injury, the 30 + year old OS isn't even the real thing - It's a hack thereof assembled by a Finnish college student and a bunch of hobbyists.
They are in a position where they had damned well better produce something that lives up to the hype.
If it doesn't look and run stellar, they may as well not bother.
Handspring's abandoning of the Springboard module and the Visor line is a sore point for me.
I still have two Visor Neos, a Visor Pro and one of the early 2MB units and still use one of the Neos daily. I played with the new Palm units but still prefer the Neo. The new stuff eats batteries too much for my liking and are not nearly as rugged.
A Visor Pro, in conjunction with a Symbol CSM-150 scanner module, made for a cost effective solution for software we develop. That combination runs rings around Symbol's own Palm offering performance and price-wise. We were quite happy with them.
Of course, they have to up and make some doodad too large to be a cellphone and too cumbersome to be a PDA, get into financial difficulties then get bought out by Palm.
Now, we are stuck using Symbol SPT 1550 units that run like a VIC-20 on Quualudes, cost twice as much and are hard to find reliable sources for.
I'm a conservative, and I'm agreeing with the New York Times. The end of the world MUST be near.
That was my thoughtexactly. Verbatim.
Which would be Hell for those of us prone to bad hair days and who might be 75 miles from the nearest rest area or off ramp.
Linux software raid is faster then anything else out there (realy IT IS), plus then you don't have to buy any crappy IDE adapters with propriatory drivers. Oh and it does support RAID 5, and probably even hotswappable drives if your using SATA hardware.
I'll just take it as read that you are naive and let it go at that.
Anyone who actually needs hot-swappable RAID level 5 will most likely opt for a SCSI hardware-based solution. Software-level solutions are not what I would call viable from a performance/data integrity standpoint.
We sell many Red Hat Linux equipped Shuttle XPCs and the nForce drivers NVidia provides via their website seem to work quite well.
Actually symbologies with Reed-Solomon encoding (ISS-Maxicode for example) can sustain quite a bit of smudging and still decode perfectly and from any orientation.
oh yeah, like that's a useful invention
I wonder if Charlie Northrup has claimed IP rights on it yet?
the old school days when a 486/66mhz and 4mb RAM was minumum
Christ, if THAT's old school...
I guess its' time for me to start wetting myself and being a burden to my children.
Yes, irony.
Delicious, no?